[04:44] <galamar> any one help with wake on lan setup?
[07:07] <Ian_Corne> is anyone else having nautilus troubles?
[09:47] <kva> hello all
[09:47] <susundberg> hello!
[09:48] <kva> well, shortly my problem. latest natty won't work on my laptop. problem is black screen. how I can report it?
[09:49] <kva> it boots from live cd finally but not from installed system
[09:49] <kva> bios - purple screen - nothing - than x-error
[09:50] <twager> kva: Have you done todays dist-upgrade ?
[09:50] <kva> debian works fine. any ideas?
[09:50] <kva> well, I got today's daily iso
[09:50] <kva> with zsync...
[09:51] <kva> so well, dist-upgrade won't help :-)
[09:51] <twager> kva: Just a thought as my system failed yesterday but todays upgrade cleared it up  ok
[09:52] <kva> nope, it was same for about a week ago
[09:52] <kva> but that was 11.04 stable
[09:52] <yruss> Hi i'm using 11.04 Natty and tried to run Vmware player but it demands to compile linux headers. Command uname -r shows 2.6.32-25-generic. I cant build-essentials through apt-get: Unable to locate package linux-headers-2.6.32-25-generic. But i can see that in usr/scr/ i have more newer version of linux-headers - 2.6.35-25. So the question is should i somehow update my linux-headers to a newer verion? If no - how what should i do to run 
[09:52] <yruss> player? If yes - how can do it? thnx
[10:34] <DJKorbit> good morning
[10:35] <kva> morning
[10:35] <DJKorbit> i'm using natty and there are some really annoying bugs that i don't know how to report
[10:36] <kva> I have same problem :-(
[10:36] <DJKorbit> the first one is that clicking the icons in the notification area (i guess they are now called indicators) doesn't open the menu
[10:37] <DJKorbit> if i click the icon to shutdown, it doesn't show the options for restart, etc.
[10:37] <DJKorbit> same for the clock and other icons
[10:38] <DJKorbit> the other bug is that some areas of the screen don't capture the mouse click, i have to drag the window to the right to be able to click a button
[10:38] <DJKorbit> for example, with chrome in full screen i can't archive an e-mail
[10:38] <DJKorbit> i have to move the window to the right to be able to click it
[10:38] <DJKorbit> really weird bug
[10:39] <DJKorbit> how should i report those bugs?
[10:39] <kva> sure but I don't know how
[10:40] <DJKorbit> ok
[10:41] <DJKorbit> i'm performing an upgrade to see if the bugs get fixed
[12:51] <psypher246> helle natty people!
[12:52] <bazhang> hi
[12:52] <psypher246> anyone else having issues installing natty in vmware?
[12:52] <psypher246> it bombs while copying files on console-setup
[12:52] <bazhang> not tried psypher246 , have it installed directly on my notebook though
[12:52] <psypher246> so it installed without error?
[12:52] <bazhang> yep
[12:53] <psypher246> hmmm
[12:53] <bazhang> psypher246, you may want to get the rss feed of natty changes
[12:53] <psypher246> ok
[12:54] <bazhang> http://feeds.ubuntu-nl.org/NattyChanges
[12:54] <psypher246> thx
[12:54] <bazhang> welcome
[13:10] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[15:46] <galamar> i cant get netflix to work. but everyother video sit works?
[15:47] <Pici> Netflix does not work natively on Linux
[15:48] <galamar> at all end of story?
[15:49] <BluesKaj> Pici, someone mentioned with the right setup , netfix can run in wine.
[15:49] <galamar> thata what i was thinking or a vm of some sort?
[15:51] <BluesKaj> I deliberately installed windows in this media server pc just for netfix , we watched one movie , none of the other stuff appealed to us so i cancelled my subscription and wiped windows :)
[15:52] <Pici> I bought a settop bluray player that could stream netflix. /me shrugs
[15:52] <genii-around> BluesKaj: Their rates seem reasonable, but I guess if the selection sucks why bother
[15:52] <galamar> well i dont pay for it
[15:53] <galamar> so if i try wine what browser should i use ff ie or opera?
[15:53] <BluesKaj> Pici, genii-around ,yeah well some might like the movie offerings . but we're old grouches and most of the stuff wasn't our taste.
[15:57] <galamar> im gonna start with ff wined. i gotta go im remote an the ipod is dying. thank you for the help
[15:57] <patdk-wk> netflix only work with ie
[15:57] <patdk-wk> it needs silverlight
[15:58] <galamar> Ok Ty I'll do that than
[15:59] <galamar> but on netflix it suggests ff? why is that?
[16:02] <patdk-wk> hmm, I don't see them suggesting ff
[16:02] <galamar> when it tells me it cant play it says what is required and makes no mention of ie
[16:02]  * patdk-wk is going try ff
[16:03] <patdk-wk> hmm, it does work
[16:04] <galamar> well at my friends house ( windows pc) theu can use any browser
[16:04] <patdk-wk> oh, ff silerlight plug-in :)
[16:04] <patdk-wk> bet if I disable it :)
[16:05] <galamar> sweet but i still need use wine right?
[16:05] <patdk-wk> ya, for silverlight
[16:05] <galamar> ok thanks everyone.
[16:06] <patdk-wk> I wonder if moonlight will work
[16:09] <patdk-wk> moonlight is only silverlight 3.0 compat :(
[16:09] <patdk-wk> doesn't play :(
[16:09] <galamar> its ok i WILL make it work
[16:10] <patdk-wk> nice
[16:10] <patdk-wk> changing my browser useragent string made it *almost* play
[16:10] <patdk-wk> ActiveX is disabled
[16:10] <patdk-wk> netflix movie viewer requires activex to be enabled
[16:11] <patdk-wk> lets try a firefox windows useragent tag :)
[16:15] <patdk-wk> ok, using windows firefox useragent tag
[16:15] <patdk-wk> Player Error, Error code: N8001
[16:15] <patdk-wk> and moonlight said there could be incompatabilies
[16:16] <patdk-wk> so moonlight almost supports it
[16:18] <galamar> you know alot more than me
[16:18] <patdk-wk> this is moonlight 2.2
[16:18] <patdk-wk> I wonder if I should try 2.99.0.10
[16:18] <patdk-wk> galamar, I just learned this in the last 10 min :)
[16:19] <galamar> wow if i was actually at my desktop i could try more
[16:19] <patdk-wk> if I could get netflix working without using my windows vm
[16:19] <patdk-wk> my windowsvm will only be used for vsphere usage
[16:20] <patdk-wk> somehow I bet playing a movie back in linux is going be much more friendly than inside a windows vm anyways
[16:20] <galamar> i think so also
[16:31] <patdk-wk> damn
[16:31] <patdk-wk> upgraded to nightly build of moonlight
[16:31] <patdk-wk> got closer :(
[16:32] <patdk-wk> Internet Connection Problem, Error code: N8101-106
[16:32] <patdk-wk> moonlight 2.99.0.9.99 claims silverlight 4.0 support though
[16:33] <patdk-wk> hmm
[16:33] <patdk-wk> "lacks DRM support which Netflix requires"
[16:48] <yaaar> yeah...you're not gonna get netflix streaming to work
[16:49]  * patdk-wk gave it a good try though :)
[16:50] <Ian_Corne> it just doesn't work
[16:50] <Ian_Corne> :p
[16:55] <patdk-wk> but it is interesting they are only restricting it based on useragent string though
[16:55] <patdk-wk> and not anything else
[16:56] <Ian_Corne> Well, if you can't decode, you're screwed anyways :p
[16:56] <galamar> will a wine installed program restart my pc?
[18:38] <pr0ph3t> hi all
[18:38] <pr0ph3t> when I start cairo-dock my title bar disappears, if I quit it and restart the window manager it reappears, anyone know why or how I can have a look at what happens from the console?I'm running compiz
[19:02] <kva> well, so anyone can give me a hint how to report to you a blank screen problem?
[19:10] <charlie-tca> can you switch to a tty using Ctrl+Alt+F2?
[19:11] <tormod> kva, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/BlankScreen
[20:06] <coz_> hey all
[20:17] <pr0ph3t> hey all
[20:18] <pr0ph3t> awn-settings keeps crashing even after update and cairo-dock at start crashes the title bar in compiz
[20:19] <coz_> pr0ph3t,   ooo
[20:20] <coz_> pr0ph3t,   that's shouldnt be happening obviously... which version of cairo dock ?
[20:22] <coz_> pr0ph3t,  here I am using  2.2.1~0beta1
[20:22] <coz_> pr0ph3t,   I am not having issues with the dock and compiz...
[20:27] <coz_> pr0ph3t,   you might want to install the bzr  developer's  version of cairo dock
[20:30] <leifw> recently, I keep getting alerts from evolution that it can't perform a query, I believe it related to google contacts address books, does anyone know about this? what is the package that adds google contacts sync support to evolution's address book?
[20:45] <anon33_> Anyone here notice that Firefox 4b10 lacks font hinting (has a weird blurriness to it)  as compared to Google Chrome or any other Gnome program?
[20:47] <genii-around> Hm. : mkdir foo && sudo cd foo            ... "sudo: cd: command not found"
[20:54] <anon33_> Anyone else have a text blurriness in Firefox like I do? http://i.imgur.com/Kv6dH.png It's not respecting the hinting options I have set for Gnome.
[21:01] <guntbert> genii-around: cd is a bash-builtin
[21:01] <guntbert> genii-around: and why would you want to sudo cd ?
[21:01] <genii-around> guntbert: So need something like sudo bash -c cd foo                        syntax?
[21:01] <genii-around> guntbert: When for instance the regular user has no access to a directory due to permissions
[21:02] <yofel> that'll need bash -c, as you need to cd and run whatever you want in one go
[21:02] <guntbert> genii-around: ack, so we separate it from the mkdir ...
[21:05] <anon33_> Anyone else here have problem using Firefox4b9 64bit?
[21:05] <anon33_> problems*
[21:05] <magn3ts> Does Unity have special multitouch support built in?
[21:05] <genii-around> anon33_: Other than npviewer occasionally chunking out with segfaults and cryptic errors, no
[21:06] <magn3ts> IE: Is this video related to Unity or a different thing called Unity: http://lii-enac.fr/en/architecture/linux-input/#tuiototouch
[21:07] <anon33_> genii-around: That's the most recent beta right? Because each time I download it and try to launch the ./firefox executable it says that the firefox-bin file isn't there, but when I try to launch that it says it doesn't exist.
[21:07] <genii-around> guntbert: It was just something I came across earlier when trying to cd into a dir within /etc which regular user was not allowed. I used after sudo -i  but do not like remaining at # prompt long
[21:07] <genii-around> anon33_: I am using the build from mozilla-daily ppa
[21:08] <anon33_> Is that a nightly or beta version?
[21:08] <yofel> nightly, works fine for me too
[21:08] <anon33_> The nightly's fine. It's the beta download from the website.
[21:09] <guntbert> genii-around: understandable, I have no idea about the "bash -c ... " thing though (and I am too lazy to read up)
[21:29] <BUGabundo> o/
[21:29] <BUGabundo> so anyone installed .38 kernel yet?
[21:29] <BUGabundo> I might do it
[21:29] <BUGabundo> just not sure nouveua will old it
[21:29] <BUGabundo> *hold
[21:42] <SAM__> hi guys i know this is for ubuntu 10.10 and natty but i have an issue with my webserver on 10.04 and im not sure what is causing it
[21:42] <SAM__> if anyone could have a quick look id appreciate
[21:42] <SAM__> http://unrealkillers.com/forum.php
[21:42] <rww> This channel's just for 11.04/natty, actually. And knowing that you're not supposed to ask in here doesn't make it okay to do so ;P
[21:43]  * BUGabundo hides
[21:44] <Daekdroom> SAM__, try #ubuntu-server
[22:09] <bloodriver> pardon...but will the Unity dock have autohide/intelligent hide and/or be removeable.  In the alpha I can access the 'normal' gnome panels...will this be true in the final version?
[22:10] <rww> bloodriver: Last I heard, it'll have intellihide
[22:11] <evilvish> and not removable..
[22:11] <bloodriver> rww: intellihide- good  unremovable: bad
[22:12] <bloodriver> I can access gnome panels in the alpha will this still be true in the final version?
[22:12] <evilvish> hence the evil guy mentioned the bad news :p
[22:13] <bloodriver> and...questions, questions...will the top panel have a 'hide feature?
[22:13] <Daekdroom> bloodriver, in the Ubuntu Desktop Edition Session, gnome panel isn't supposed to load
[22:13] <Daekdroom> and it doesn't here.
[22:15] <bloodriver> Daekdroom: I can access  gnome panels in UDES
[22:15] <charlie-tca> the already hides itself in the daily images
[22:16] <Daekdroom> Like I said, it's not the default behaviour.
[22:18] <bloodriver> okay thanks...will there be a Gnome Ubuntu version?  Change is hard!  I've never been a fan of docks either
[22:19] <yofel> sure, it's called classic in gdm
[22:19] <evilvish> bloodriver: just use the classic desktop
[22:19] <charlie-tca> When you log in, click your name, then look at the bottom for session
[22:20] <bloodriver> groovy
[22:21] <bloodriver> okay...last question...is it Natty+1 or Ubuntu+1...then *+2 etc after this?
[22:21] <charlie-tca> ubuntu+1 is always the development version
[22:22] <charlie-tca> natty is a codename. It becomes Ubuntu 11.04 when released
[22:23] <bloodriver> maybe I misread that...I thought they were dropping codenames (a,b,c, et el) and going to a numbering code...I was looking forward to Oscillating Ocelot
[22:24] <bloodriver> Prancing Pachyderm
[22:25] <Daekdroom> bloodriver, it hasn't been discussed, so it's safe to assume it's staying the way it is.
[22:25] <rww> natty, maverick, lucid, etc. are codenames used during development because the release could be delayed and thus using year.month makes no sense.
[22:25] <charlie-tca> Each release gets a code name as it starts development, then gets a release number of the year and month released
[22:25] <rww> people apparently hate numbers and use the development codenames after release too, though
[22:25] <BUGabundo> and that only happened ONCE :)
[22:25] <Daekdroom> rww, they're cool names :P
[22:26] <evilvish> heh
[22:26] <bloodriver> okay...thanks for hipping me to the skinny
[23:52] <Daekdroom> !info indicator-applet-appmenu
[23:52] <Daekdroom> Interesting.
[23:55] <Daekdroom> Despite still thinking Unity is too unstable right now, I'll use that in classic gnome so I can get used to it :P