[01:03] <Technoviking> akgraner: ping
[02:37] <akgraner> Technoviking, pong :-)
[02:37] <akgraner> re interview?
[04:43] <nigelb> good morning
[04:44] <paultag> morning nigelb
[04:44] <nigelb> hola paultag :)
[04:44] <paultag> hola :)
[08:07] <dpm> morning everyone!
[08:14] <dholbach> good morning
[08:14] <dpm> morning dholbach!
[08:15] <dholbach> ¡hola dpm! ¿qué tal?
[08:18] <dpm> bé, bé :)
[08:19] <dholbach> :-)
[08:23] <popey> anyone on natty here fancy testing something super simple?
[08:23] <popey> basically, open banshee, then try to close it :)
[08:23] <popey> bug 706746
[08:23] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 706746 in banshee "Cannot close banshee" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/706746
[08:48] <nigelb> I know people were pushing for banshee, didn't realize they pushed *that* much
[08:50] <popey> seems fixed
[08:51] <popey> dont like that it got marked invalid when asking for more info
[08:51] <popey> seems rude to me
[08:52] <nigelb> It should have been Incomplete, instead of Invalid
[08:52] <nigelb> well, after asking for more information.
[08:52] <popey> indeed
[08:53] <nigelb> probably was distracted or something.
[08:53] <popey> I'd best write my thing for the user days huh? :)
[08:53] <nigelb> heh, upto you
[08:54] <nigelb> if you write it down, we can hand it to AlanBell if you disappear into thin air.
[08:55] <popey> :)
[08:55] <popey> I want to make some videos to go with it
[08:55] <nigelb> that would rock
[08:55] <popey> so people can watch them after and see what I did
[08:55] <popey> need to find time for that though :)
[08:56] <nigelb> I did sometimes wonder if we need a discussion forum or likewise where folks can ask doubts later.
[08:56] <nigelb> Then I realize, I hate forums and give up :p
[08:56] <popey> hah
[08:56] <popey> ditto
[08:57] <nigelb> far more easier to say I'm foo on IRC and will be on #bar to talk further if you're interested :)
[08:57] <nigelb> how did I end up with a pickup line o.O
[08:58] <nigelb> bah, but you get the point :D
[09:07] <popey> bah
[09:07] <popey> you can turn off global menu for specifc applications, but editing the launchers
[09:07] <popey> but there is no nice way to edit the launchers, you have to manually edit /usr/share/applications/*.desktop
[11:09] <nigelb> Morning duanedesign
[11:36] <duanedesign> morning nigelb
[13:45] <jcastro> "Of course, if you want to mirror our binaries - and we are only 11Gb small (compared to 70Gb+ for OO.o)"
[13:45] <jcastro> heh
[14:59] <JFo> *yawn
[15:03] <jcastro> wow
[15:03] <jcastro> people are real assholes on -sounder
[15:03] <czajkowski> jcastro: oh dear
[15:07] <Pici> That thread was off to a bad start when they started complaining about LTS releases... so.. the first reply.
[15:10] <jcastro> perusing through the list I'm not seeing what value it brings to the project to be honest
[15:17] <nigelb> jcastro: heh, you've been sharing on google reader with notes
[15:18] <nigelb> now that makes an interesting reading ;)
[15:18] <jcastro> yes
[15:18] <nigelb> I did wonder what's this new strange blue box :D
[15:18] <czajkowski> jcastro: which thread is this
[15:19] <jcastro> this guy complaining that his kopete doesn't work with yahoo or something on hardy
[15:19] <jcastro> the LTS one
[15:20] <Pici> czajkowski: Subject is "Ubuntu opts for LibreOffice over Oracle's OpenOffice"
[15:27] <czajkowski> ah
[15:31] <jcastro> i was tempted to flame back
[15:31] <jcastro> "Either I am missing something or did you miss WHERE I got the patch/fix?
[15:31] <jcastro> I got the patch from a bug report on Hardy but they won't fix it because
[15:31] <jcastro> they would have to rebuild a lot more kde packages than just kopete."
[15:31] <jcastro> what I wanted to respond with was
[15:32] <jcastro> "Either I am missing something or did you miss the whole point of an open source project?"
[15:32] <nigelb> lol
[15:34] <jcastro> it's not like he doesn't know, he knew to to get the patch and apply it
[15:34] <jcastro> he's just missing that last 10%
[15:35] <nigelb> If there were library upgrades, he did those too.
[15:36] <nigelb> So, he knows stuff really well.
[15:38] <jcastro> dholbach: this squarely makes him your problem
[15:39] <jcastro> >_>
[15:39] <jcastro> <_<
[15:39] <dholbach> I don't know what you're talking about
[15:39] <JFo> heh
[15:40] <dholbach> is it something that can wait until next week?
[15:40] <jcastro> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=526646
[15:40] <ubot2> bugzilla.redhat.com bug 526646 in kdenetwork "kopete is no longer accepted by Yahoo Messenger's servers" [Medium,Closed: nextrelease]
[15:40] <jcastro> I could totally troll him with that ...
[15:48] <popey> jcastro: yes, sounder is a pit
[15:48] <popey> its better than it was, but there are still some characters on that list who need a slap
[15:49] <jcastro> how should I bring it up?
[15:49] <popey> bring what up?
[15:49] <jcastro> to whoever, that the list is crap
[15:49] <popey> its known
[15:49] <popey> I am one of the mods
[15:50] <popey> what is your goal?
[15:50] <Pici> Perhaps I should just unsubscribe
[16:00] <jcastro> what do you mean what is my goal?
[16:01] <jcastro> a nice friendly list where people can discuss stuff?
[16:14] <AlanBell> is that the goal of the denizens of that list though?
[16:33] <jcastro> "The Sounder mailing list should be used for discussion of subjects of general interest related to the Ubuntu project, Linux, Open Source or software in general. "
[16:33] <jcastro> friendly is like, implied
[16:33] <jcastro> with ubuntu.com in the url. :)
[17:01] <popey> yeah, good luck with that
[17:01] <popey> honestly I'm getting to the point of giving up with that list
[17:01] <jcastro> man, I had no idea things have gotten this bad
[17:02] <popey> sabdfl was all for shutting it down
[17:02] <popey> its not
[17:02] <jcastro> so, let's just get rid of it?
[17:02] <popey> its better than it was
[17:02] <jcastro> lol, this is /better/?
[17:02] <popey> yes
[17:02] <popey> very much so
[17:02] <popey> same goes for -users
[17:02] <popey> which is much more pleasant than it was
[17:02] <doctormo> friendly isn't implied, it's a mandate ;-)
[17:04] <jcastro> though I can understand your frustration
[17:04] <jcastro> the forums can get rough too
[17:06] <dholbach> alright my friends
[17:06] <dholbach> I call it a day
[17:06] <jcastro> \o/
[17:06] <dholbach> see you all tomorrow!
[17:06] <dholbach> BYEBYE
[17:38] <Technoviking> akgraner: I never got the questions you were going to send me?
[17:39] <Technoviking> popey and jcastro: the social area of Ubuntu tend to attract undesirable behavior.
[17:40] <Technoviking> The tech area of the forums tend to be more mellow than the community cafe.
[17:40] <jcastro> there's really one core issue here
[17:40] <jcastro> it's popey's fault
[17:40] <Technoviking> seems to be the same with mailing list
[17:40] <Technoviking> Blame Popey!!! (tm)
[17:41] <Technoviking> it is a shame, since I would like the Ubuntu community be more than tech talk and question
[17:41] <popey> :p
[17:42] <popey> BAH!
[17:42] <popey> just had one of my bugs marked wishlist
[17:42] <popey> bug 706741
[17:42] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 706741 in banshee "Cannot sort Internet Archive Search results" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/706741
[17:42]  * popey blames jcastro 
[17:42] <Technoviking> what, no one owns blamepopey.com:)
[17:43]  * jcastro schemes
[17:43] <popey> ruhroh
[17:43] <popey> http://www.artofcomplaint.com/blamepopey exists
[17:44] <Technoviking> maybe this should a UDS session, Social Interations in Ubuntu Community
[17:45] <Technoviking> also a UDS session for Blame Popey, really there should be a blame popey track:)
[17:49] <czajkowski> heh
[19:15] <dpm_> ok, calling it a day. See you all tomorrow!
[21:30] <czajkowski> dealing with solicitors and barristers is head wrecking :(
[21:34]  * Pendulum hugs czajkowski 
[21:36] <czajkowski> so not fair :(
[21:36] <czajkowski> I'm the one that has to deal with the crap
[21:36] <Pendulum> :(
[21:36] <czajkowski> court case will expire march 31st
[21:36] <czajkowski> but no way can I get a court date
[21:36] <czajkowski> so now have to go and jump through more hoops and in theory be in ireland next wednesday!
[21:37] <JFo> who did you shank?
[21:37] <JFo> ;-)
[21:37] <Pendulum> ugh :(
[21:38] <czajkowski> JFo: :(
[21:38] <JFo> I hope it gets better
[21:38]  * JFo hugs czajkowski 
[21:38] <czajkowski> you and me both, or I lose both cases before it gets herd, which will piss me off >:(
[21:39] <JFo> I can imagine
[21:39] <czajkowski> *sigh*