[03:34] how can I modify the kernel args (in grub2) to boot lucid into an ash / initrd shell? [10:00] ubiquity: evand * r4489 trunk/debian/ubiquity.install-any: Missed a pc105.tree reference that needed to be removed. [11:18] debian-installer: cjwatson * r1315 lucid-proposed/ (5 files in 2 dirs): [11:18] debian-installer: Fix amd64 builds to actually include the lts-backport-maverick kernel on [11:18] debian-installer: maverick-* images. [11:19] debian-installer: cjwatson * r1316 lucid-proposed/debian/changelog: re-close bug [11:20] debian-installer: cjwatson * r1317 lucid-proposed/debian/changelog: releasing version 20081029ubuntu102.8 [16:56] cjwatson: id like to speak hypothetically with you about ubuntustudio when you have a minute [16:57] we were discussing the process of changing from an alternate installer to a live DVD [17:00] http://people.canonical.com/~evand/images/bootcharts/ubiquity-r4489-build.jpg - in my attempts to see where we can speed up ubiquity's build time (in support of quicker unit testing), I've generated a bootchart of a build. Careful, it's 33MB. [17:04] holstein: ok ... [17:04] holstein: you wouldn't be able to have the flexible task selection stuff if you did that [17:05] cjwatson: for example? [17:05] OH [17:05] the meta-package selection at install [17:05] the menu that lets you chooose audio production, audio recording, graphics, ... [17:05] ? [17:05] that might be OK [17:06] good to note though [17:06] it would reduce it to basically a desktop; or perhaps you'd simply have to install absolutely everything or something [17:06] seems like a very significant design question for your project :) [17:07] cjwatson: other than, no big deal? [17:07] other than that* [17:07] well, that pretty much is *the* big deal [17:08] it's a non-trivial amount of work for us to switch over, but really more for you guys to decide how the whole workflow ought to work - make sure you've thought it all through very carefully [17:09] you also have the option of switching to a graphical version of the alternate installer if you like [17:09] it's not as well visually designed as the desktop installer, and it's hard to make design improvements to it, but if it's just "argh it's all text" then that option is there [17:09] cjwatson: i think its the live option that im pushing for [17:09] (no other Ubuntu projects are using that yet, but anyway) [17:09] not really asthetics [17:10] still good to note [17:11] cjwatson: i'll bring it up [17:12] and state the limitations [17:12] and see what everyone thinks [17:12] cjwatson: thanks for your time :) [17:16] np === yofel_ is now known as yofel === charlie-tca__ is now known as charlie-tca