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| ari-tczew | bdrung, tumbleweed: could you avoid in sponsors-overview last comment by ? | 00:57 |
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| ari-tczew | janitor | 00:57 |
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| dholbach | good morning | 08:14 |
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| sagaci | afternoon dholbach | 08:34 |
| dholbach | hi sagaci | 08:35 |
| geser | good morning dholbach | 09:14 |
| dholbach | hello geser | 09:16 |
| AnAnt | Hello, anyone got a natty chroot ? | 09:18 |
| persia | AnAnt, Sure. What do you need? | 09:20 |
| AnAnt | persia: thanks, I'll try something here first | 09:22 |
| AnAnt | compiling this test code fails on natty: http://pastebin.com/0XGD4kXB , I compile as follows: gcc -Wl,-Bsymbolic-functions -lncursesw test.c | 09:30 |
| AnAnt | I got libncursesw5-dev & libncurses5-dev installed | 09:30 |
| AnAnt | persia: ^ | 09:30 |
| \sh | AnAnt: doesn't it mean: int main() { ... return(0); }? ,-) | 09:31 |
| AnAnt | \sh: I don't understand | 09:32 |
| AnAnt | the compile error was: undefined reference to addwstr | 09:32 |
| AnAnt | anyone knows if there is something wrong with the compile command line ? linker flags ? | 09:35 |
| persia | AnAnt, fails for me as well. No idea why. | 09:35 |
| AnAnt | it compiles on maverick btw | 09:36 |
| geser | the usual "ls --as-needed" issue | 09:37 |
| geser | exchange the order of -lncursesw and test.c -> test.c -lncursesw | 09:37 |
| geser | order does matter with ld --as-needed which is default in natty | 09:38 |
| persia | geser, So -lfoo needs to follow code that uses foo? | 09:38 |
| geser | persia: exactly | 09:38 |
| AnAnt | geser: aha, thanks | 09:38 |
| persia | Ah! That explains a few things I've seen. Thanks. | 09:38 |
| dapal | evaluate: ack :) -- I'm quite busy as well :/ | 10:00 |
| evaluate | dapal, ok :-) | 10:07 |
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| Laney | dholbach: forgot to reply to your mail re the announcement but no more comments from me :-) | 11:06 |
| dholbach | Laney, thanks | 11:07 |
| Laney | np | 11:07 |
| Laney | your other mail reminded me ;) | 11:07 |
| dholbach | I'll follow up in a bit | 11:07 |
| AnAnt | geser: thanks, could you give me a link regarding the rationale of listing -lfoo before the source/object files using it ? I want to send a patch to upstream | 11:23 |
| bdrung | dholbach: "The expectations of new developers are appropriate" - what we expect from them or what they expect? | 11:48 |
| dholbach | the former | 11:48 |
| Laney | oops | 11:53 |
| * Laney ^H^H^H^H^H^H^H | 11:53 | |
| dholbach | alright... I'll head out into the cold for lunch - see you later | 11:54 |
| geser | AnAnt: I can only point you to the manpage of "ld" and the "-l" option (perhaps also read about "--as-needed") | 11:58 |
| AnAnt | geser: thanks | 12:00 |
| ari-tczew | kklimonda: can we sync atkmm1.6 from experimental and clean up it from REVU? | 13:39 |
| ari-tczew | kklimonda: btw. you have typo in d/changelog - forgot hash, (Closes: 604123) | 13:40 |
| ari-tczew | and why svn :( git is better | 13:40 |
| ari-tczew | bdrung: if you are free, you could sponsor merges from queue | 13:48 |
| bdrung | ari-tczew: which? | 13:49 |
| ari-tczew | bdrung: bug 695005 or bug 705383 | 13:49 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 695005 in python-numpy (Ubuntu) "Merge python-numpy 1.5.1 (main) from Debian experimental (main)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/695005 | 13:49 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 705383 in emacs23 (Ubuntu) "Please merge emacs 23.2+1-7 (main) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/705383 | 13:49 |
| * ari-tczew is off for lunch. | 13:51 | |
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| bdrung | ari-tczew: done python-numpy | 14:46 |
| bdrung | ari-tczew: emacs is too big. find an emacs user for sponsoring. | 14:47 |
| kklimonda | ari-tczew: we can clean it up from revu but there is no need to sync it. and missing # is not a typo, it closed bug just fine. | 14:54 |
| ari-tczew | bdrung: I asked kees for emacs sponsoring | 14:55 |
| tumbleweed | bdrung: thanks for numpy | 14:57 |
| bdrung | tumbleweed: that was an easy one | 14:58 |
| tumbleweed | IIRC that'll need a few rebuilds now, hopefully smorar will take care of it | 14:59 |
| ari-tczew | RainCT: would be nice if REVU has a script to check whether package exist in Ubuntu or Debian | 14:59 |
| RainCT | ari-tczew: Yeah. Send me a patch :) | 15:00 |
| ari-tczew | RainCT: ha ha ha :P | 15:00 |
| kklimonda | jdstrand: thanks for doing two upload for hamster-applet and not merging 2.32.1 in the meantime ;) | 15:01 |
| jdstrand | that's slightly snarky :) | 15:02 |
| jdstrand | I coded up a fix for one of those and noticed a patch was available for the other. it is all I had time for | 15:02 |
| kklimonda | jdstrand: I just got confused when I saw 2.31.92-ubuntu4 :) | 15:05 |
| * bdrung is poking ari-tczew for vlc. | 15:06 | |
| ari-tczew | bdrung: would you like me to review? | 15:08 |
| shadeslayer | how can i specify a sshd port using debsign with -r option? | 15:09 |
| bdrung | ari-tczew: yes | 15:09 |
| tumbleweed | shadeslayer: don't know of any option except configuring the host in your .ssh/config (which is a good timesaver, anyway) | 15:10 |
| shadeslayer | ok | 15:10 |
| ari-tczew | bdrung: let me finish some things, some minutes | 15:10 |
| * ari-tczew wishes that some day motu-swat will grant upload access to -security pocket. | 15:11 | |
| jdstrand | ari-tczew: why that would be helpful, I don't think there is a significant bottleneck atm | 15:11 |
| jdstrand | the current process provides peer review and more or less timely sponsorship (we have a person dedicated to doing sponsoring each week) | 15:12 |
| jdstrand | (ie, security sponsoring, beyond patch piloting) | 15:12 |
| ari-tczew | jdstrand: that means that only Canonical can maintain that stuff, without community | 15:13 |
| jdstrand | ari-tczew: no, Canonical sponsors for the greater community | 15:14 |
| jdstrand | ari-tczew: yes, we are theoretically a bottleneck, but in practice we are not because the sponsorship volume is not high | 15:15 |
| ari-tczew | jdstrand: sad to hear that not-payed community is worse | 15:15 |
| jdstrand | ari-tczew: who said that? I certainly did not | 15:15 |
| jdstrand | ari-tczew: the fact is that few from motu-swat are even acking patches to bugs where ubuntu-security-sponsors is subscribed | 15:16 |
| ari-tczew | jdstrand: [16:14] <jdstrand> ari-tczew: no, Canonical sponsors for the greater community | 15:16 |
| ari-tczew | Canonical = cash | 15:16 |
| jdstrand | ari-tczew: why would full access to the security pocket be given when there is little interest from the greater community to provide and test updates? | 15:17 |
| ari-tczew | commercialism | 15:17 |
| jdstrand | ari-tczew: that is a very odd interpretation of what I said | 15:17 |
| dholbach | ari-tczew, I'm not sure where you are going right now - it should not exactly be a surprise that there are members of the community paid to work on Ubuntu | 15:18 |
| jdstrand | ari-tczew: there are limitations in LP that don't allow this. I am merely saying that while it would be nice if that limitation was gone, practically speaking, there is no problem getting fixes from the greater community into -security | 15:18 |
| jdstrand | if people just want to get the work done and contribute, there is no problem | 15:19 |
| ari-tczew | jdstrand: so only LP is blocking give access to -security pocket? | 15:21 |
| jdstrand | ari-tczew: that, processes surrounding handling of uploads to -security in stable releases, and people | 15:22 |
| jdstrand | so there are technical and procedural things that need to be addressed. once the technical is resolved, I assume motu-swat can develop safe processes requiring peer review, etc | 15:23 |
| ari-tczew | bdrung: thanks for sync review. could you have a look also on related bug 702765 ? | 15:23 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 702765 in libgcrypt11 (Ubuntu) "Please sync libgcrypt11 1.4.6-4 (main) from Debian experimental (main)" [Wishlist,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/702765 | 15:23 |
| ari-tczew | jdstrand: I'm an admin of motu-swat so I can manage members properly, if you as ubuntu-security have concerns to any members in the team. | 15:24 |
| bdrung | ari-tczew: ping me again once libgpg-error is synced | 15:25 |
| jdstrand | ari-tczew: again, you are misinterpreting me. I am not saying anything against you are the members of the motu-swat team. I am saying there isn't a defined process for how motu-swat does peer review, testing, uploads and handling of regressions | 15:26 |
| ari-tczew | bdrung: yea, I'm thinking when last syncs were done | 15:26 |
| ari-tczew | (archive-admin) | 15:26 |
| jdstrand | ari-tczew: right now, all that comes for free because the ubuntu-security team handles much of that on the larger community's behalf | 15:26 |
| jdstrand | ari-tczew: if we are taken out of the picture (which is what you are suggesting), then processes need to be defined and followed | 15:27 |
| jdstrand | this is all to ensure our users receive quality updates with the very best chance of being regression free | 15:27 |
| ari-tczew | jdstrand: I'm only volunteer without cash so I can wait only for Canonical grace. I'll review vlc since bdrung asked me for that. Thanks. | 15:28 |
| jdstrand | ari-tczew: where is this hostility coming from? I cleared the security sponsors queue last week (and there wasn't much there). mdeslaur is on community sponsoring this week, and iirc has already been looking at the queue | 15:30 |
| mdeslaur | ari-tczew: I started looking at vlc this morning | 15:31 |
| ari-tczew | jdstrand: I'm just guessing whether reviewing by motu-swat makes sense. | 15:31 |
| jdstrand | ari-tczew: sure it does! if we get a qualified ACK from anyone from ubuntu-security-sponsors, we process it | 15:32 |
| mdeslaur | ari-tczew: once I finished build testing it, I'll ack it and upload it | 15:35 |
| ari-tczew | jdstrand: OK, good to hear. I just want to make Ubuntu more community-open in some areas like security. | 15:36 |
| ari-tczew | So in future I imagine motu-swat as team with upload access to -security in universe. | 15:36 |
| jdstrand | ari-tczew: we are striving to be open with the LP that is here now. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/SponsorsQueue discusses how the queue is processed. noticed there is a lot that ubuntu-security-sponosrs can do, of which motu-swat is a member | 15:38 |
| mdeslaur | ari-tczew: could you please add the information that's missing to bug #539056 ? | 16:21 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 539056 in drupal5 (Ubuntu Karmic) "backport security fixes from 6.19 and 5.23" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/539056 | 16:21 |
| mdeslaur | ari-tczew: thanks | 16:21 |
| ari-tczew | mdeslaur: I'll add when I'll have opportunities to test. or maybe you want to do it for me? | 16:22 |
| mdeslaur | ari-tczew: you're supposed to test _before_ asking for debdiffs to be sponsored. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/UpdateProcedures | 16:23 |
| ari-tczew | mdeslaur: I can don't preparing fixes if you want. | 16:24 |
| mdeslaur | ari-tczew: I don't understand | 16:24 |
| ari-tczew | mdeslaur: I dunno how explain it more, english is not my native. | 16:25 |
| mdeslaur | ari-tczew: ok, I'll wait for your testing and updated debdiffs. Thanks. | 16:29 |
| ari-tczew | mdeslaur: IIRC there is no need to add patch which jdstrand asked. I didn't check it yet. | 16:29 |
| ari-tczew | because it was related to plugin for drupal, not for stricte drupal | 16:30 |
| mdeslaur | ari-tczew: well, could you please update the bug with the info? thanks | 16:30 |
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| Rhonda | uh oh, requestsync did drop its pant infront of me | 19:53 |
| Rhonda | Might it be that the version in debian testing isn't able to work with --lp anymore? | 19:54 |
| tumbleweed | should work wit h--lp | 19:54 |
| tumbleweed | Rhonda: traceback? | 19:54 |
| Rhonda | The traceback somehow gives me the impression it might be related to --lp | 19:54 |
| Rhonda | Let me paste it | 19:55 |
| * tumbleweed always uses --lp. But I also haven't used the version that's in testing for a while... :P | 19:55 | |
| Rhonda | http://paste.debian.net/105662/ | 19:56 |
| tumbleweed | Rhonda: http://code.google.com/p/httplib2/issues/detail?id=62 <- basically it means connection failed | 20:01 |
| tumbleweed | (as one could gess) | 20:01 |
| geser | Rhonda: does the version in testing perhaps use edge.lp which is gone? | 20:01 |
| tumbleweed | geser: edge.api still seems to exist | 20:02 |
| tumbleweed | that was my first thought too | 20:02 |
| Rhonda | Ah. Retry and it worked. | 20:02 |
| Rhonda | I think it's related to my background uploading of wesnoth-1.9_1.9.4.orig.tar.gz which blocks a fair amount of my outgoing bandwidth ;) | 20:02 |
| Rhonda | It's only at 18% so far ..... | 20:03 |
| tumbleweed | I'll bet :) | 20:03 |
| Rhonda | Did I mention that I need betterbandwidth for such stuff? | 20:03 |
| Rhonda | 'nuff done for now, see you around. | 20:09 |
| MTecknology | if one line in debian/changelog fixes one launchpad bug and one debian bug, how should I mark that? I've seen (Closed: #123123) and (LP: #123123) but never both put together | 20:26 |
| MTecknology | there we go | 20:28 |
| MTecknology | zul: howdy! | 20:28 |
| ari-tczew | MTecknology: (LP: #XXXXXX, Closes: #XXXXXX) | 20:29 |
| zul | MTecknology: hi | 20:29 |
| MTecknology | ari-tczew: thanks :) | 20:30 |
| MTecknology | zul: how's php been going for ya? | 20:30 |
| zul | MTecknology: fine | 20:32 |
| MTecknology | zul: how's everything else been? | 20:32 |
| zul | MTecknology: fine..no php 5.3.5 yet if thats what you are leading to ;) | 20:33 |
| ari-tczew | RainCT: are you going to take sponsorship on bug 707635 ? | 21:14 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 707635 in Ubuntu "Sync zeitgeist-sharp 0.1.1.0-1 (universe) from Debian experimental (main)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/707635 | 21:14 |
| RainCT | ari-tczew: yep | 21:14 |
| ari-tczew | RainCT: unsubscribe sponsors then | 21:15 |
| ari-tczew | or mark In Progress | 21:15 |
| RainCT | Yup. (Can't unsubscribe, team membership expired) | 21:15 |
| persia | RainCT, I've extended your membership in ubuntu-sponsors, since you seem to need it, and do sponsoring. Just ask if you expire again | 22:59 |
| ari-tczew | persia: do you will be still in DMB? | 23:00 |
| RainCT | persia: Thanks | 23:00 |
| persia | ari-tczew, I have no idea. I've been nominated for the selection process. We'll see what happens when the developers express their preferences from the set of nominees. | 23:01 |
| ari-tczew | persia: who is also nominated? | 23:03 |
| persia | ari-tczew, The list of nominees is currently not disclosed. It will be announced on Monday. | 23:03 |
| persia | I will say that the DMB would appreciate more nominations, if folk have preferences. It never hurts to have a wide selection of folks from whom to choose. | 23:04 |
| ari-tczew | persia: then how do you know that you have been nominated? | 23:04 |
| persia | ari-tczew, Because I am on the list that receives the nominations. | 23:05 |
| ari-tczew | aha | 23:09 |
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