[16:35] <charlie-tca> Good morning
[16:43] <charlie-tca> mr_pouit: are we throwing greybird in as the default theme in alpha2?
[16:46] <mr_pouit> yes, as soon as i've uploaded it
[16:47] <charlie-tca> Thanks
[16:47] <mr_pouit> so probably in a few hours
[16:47] <charlie-tca> wOw
[16:47]  * charlie-tca didn't mean to say hurry up
[16:47] <holstein> hello folks
[16:47] <holstein> i have a slightly OT question
[16:47] <charlie-tca> Hello, holstein 
[16:48] <mr_pouit> charlie-tca: it's waiting since last friday, so I should hurry up or ochosi will kill me :p
[16:48] <charlie-tca> Oh! Then maybe I did mean hurry
[16:48] <holstein> i wanted to know about the process of adapting xubuntu from ubuntu
[16:48] <charlie-tca> :-)
[16:48] <holstein> i want ubuntustudio to go to a live-CD 
[16:48] <holstein> right now its the alternate
[16:49] <charlie-tca> mr_pouit or cody-somerville ^ ^
[16:49] <holstein> and i was wondering if there were particulars that you guys could share that would help me get the ball rolling
[16:49] <ochosi> mr_pouit: hehe, maybe not kill you, but release another, newer version of greybird more likely ;)
[16:51] <cody-somerville> holstein, Just ask cjwatson to set it up for you.
[16:52] <holstein> cody-somerville: cool
[16:55] <mr_pouit> charlie-tca: and for your theme issue, try to uninstall gnome-settings-daemon
[16:55] <charlie-tca> ah-ha
[16:55] <mr_pouit> you will lose your gdm theming, but your xfce theme will be back ;p
[16:55] <charlie-tca> I knew that didn't belong
[16:57] <ochosi> btw, how do we theme gdm now?
[16:57] <ochosi> i wasn't really involved with that in maverick
[16:58] <mr_pouit> with a gconf file dropped in gdm's home dir to override the default ubuntu one
[16:59] <ochosi> brrr
[16:59] <ochosi> who did the gconf file last time?
[16:59] <mr_pouit> \o
[16:59] <ochosi> :)
[17:00] <ochosi> would be nice if gdm's panel would match the greybird xfce-panel colorwise
[17:00] <ochosi> if you need help on that let me know
[17:00] <mr_pouit> good luck for that
[17:00] <ochosi> rly? is it that bad/hard?
[17:00] <mr_pouit> be prepared to dive in gdm's source code
[17:00] <mr_pouit> I remember the issues we had with albatross
[17:01] <ochosi>  /o\
[17:01] <ochosi> but back then it was a substantially different gdm, no?
[17:01] <ochosi> i think it was still an older version
[17:01] <mr_pouit> nope, the same
[17:01] <ochosi> rly?
[17:01] <mr_pouit> yeah
[17:02] <ochosi> i thought we had something like gdm-legacy
[17:02] <mr_pouit> probably the first release including it
[17:02] <mr_pouit> there was a legacy gdm uploaded, but it was never used by anyone
[17:02] <ochosi> right
[17:02] <charlie-tca> ochosi: that's why I pushed for lightdm
[17:03] <ochosi> charlie-tca: yeah, i'm all for it, but mr_pouit said it's not stable enough yet
[17:03] <mr_pouit> charlie-tca: is someone working on its integration in xubuntu currently?
[17:03] <charlie-tca> Not to my knowledge
[17:03] <charlie-tca> It is in the repositories, though
[17:03] <mr_pouit> ochosi: not me (I think it was the reasons not to include it by default in ubuntu)
[17:03] <charlie-tca> I don't know enough to get it done
[17:04] <charlie-tca> ochosi, mr_pouit : I would go with mr_pouit 's word. He knows more than me
[17:04] <ochosi> but if it wasn't mr_pouit's own words i'd say we should test it
[17:04] <ochosi> (it could be a can of worms though :) )
[17:04] <charlie-tca> agreed
[17:05] <charlie-tca> I got it to work in VirtualBox, on a fresh install. I could not get it to work on my installation of Natty, though
[17:05] <ochosi> charlie-tca: you could ask whether anyone in the community has tested it in the next meeting
[17:05] <ochosi> ah right
[17:07] <mr_pouit> or on the ml first maybe
[17:07] <charlie-tca> thought we did, but I forget...
[17:07] <charlie-tca> or maybe, I just really want it
[17:09] <ochosi> i second the idea of putting it on the ml first
[17:13] <charlie-tca> see above ;-)
[17:14] <charlie-tca> okay, okay. Maybe I screwed it up. I will send it to the ML, then
[17:15]  * charlie-tca thinks ochosi gets better responses on the ML than him
[17:17] <ochosi> charlie-tca: does that mean you want me to write/send it?
[17:17] <charlie-tca> I don't care. I will send it. You are busy enough, aren't you?
[17:18] <ochosi> hm, kinda, i at least wouldn't be able to send it today
[17:18] <ochosi> tomorrow wuold be possible/okay
[17:18] <charlie-tca> I will take care of it. Got to send the meeting reminder out too.
[17:19] <ochosi> okeydokey
[20:37] <charlie-tca__> then who am I?
[20:38] <charlie-tca__> oh, ghosted
[20:56] <mr_pouit> incoming upload of xubuntu-default-settings ;>
[20:56] <charlie-tca> great! 
[20:57] <charlie-tca> I might have to reinstall yet, though. Now I have to start both xfsettingsd and xfwm when I login