[00:07] wow, trolling #edubuntu? [00:07] you know you have no life when.... [00:29] heh, yeah [06:54] hello can anyone help me to build fat client image offline? i have done online installation using < ltsp-build-client --fat-client --fat-client-desktop edubuntu-desktop --arch i386 --skipimage > . now i need to install it without using internet connection. plz help... === ogra_ is now known as ogra === JanC_ is now known as JanC [14:38] is it possible to use the Edubuntu menu-editor to assign different profiles to likewise-open AD groups? e.g. students profile to the DOMAIN\Students, staff to DOMAIN\Staff, etc [14:53] robehend1: I don't know for sure, but since it works pretty much like normal groups, it should really be fine. if it isn't, then it should probably get a bug for that [14:54] highvoltage: only issue I'm having is getting them to show up in the gui for profile assignment. only likewise-related one i see is LTSPHOST\Likewise Users [14:56] ah right, because you only see your own groups right? [14:56] correct [14:56] have the same issue with Sabayon, now that i think about it. [14:57] mgariepy: any ideas? perhaps menueditor could get a custom field for that? sounds like a very common use case :) [15:10] highvoltage: would it make sense to just add the group to the /etc/group file? it looks like that is where the editor is reading from. I'm not sure of the syntax though, since its an AD group, not local [15:12] robehend1: I'm not sure what happens if you have groups with backslashes in there, it might work with a bit of trial and error, perhaps you might need to escape a backslash in there, I have no idea but it sounds worth trying [15:13] highvoltage: likewise *does* let you change the domain seperate from a backslash to say, a hyphen. guess i've got an afternoon project [15:15] robehend1: I just played around with it, addgroup doesn't allow you to use backslashes, but it does work if you manually put it in /etc/group [15:15] how did you add it. DOMAIN\\Group ? [15:15] DOMAIN\group [15:16] hmm, alright. now to give it a shot. any services I have to restart after fiddling with that file/ [15:16] that's how I added it in /etc/group, then I added the user to the group by doing a adduser testuser TEST\\group [15:16] nope [15:17] you just give it a random number? So it'd be like...DOMAIN\Group:x:8283 or something? [15:17] I just incremented the last used group ID, but you can choose a higher number too [15:18] hmm. Now to see if its actually using the AD group, or if we just made a group called DOMAIN\Group [15:19] well, it won't actually be the AD group, I thought you just wanted it to add users to the group in menueditor? [15:25] robehend1, you probably can use desktop-profile with likewise groups [15:25] I'm wanting to be able to assign profiles in menu editor to members of the AD group [15:25] i could be explaining it wrong, as well [15:25] i guess the simplest way would be to edit the file manually [15:25] the /etc/group file? [15:26] nop, the /etc/desktop-profiles/whatever.listing file [15:26] can you try to asign the profile to a random group, then edit the file it createsd [15:27] hmm, let me give it a shot [15:27] not sure how it will react with "\" in group name tho [15:28] well, that can be changed in likewise to be a - or something [15:28] with ldap it works correctly [15:29] ack, student calls. i'll have to come back to this. thanks though! [19:08] highvoltage: edubuntu ? [19:08] as in meeting (unless I got mixed up with timezones again) [19:08] mgariepy: ^ [19:10] I think it's early for a meeting [19:10] stgraber: hi! [19:10] ok, so got mixed up with the timezones again :) [19:10] mgariepy I think is in a meeting [19:10] so that's in 50 minutes ? [19:11] just wondering because I saw that the QA meeting is about to begin and it's usually conflicting with ours + my cell meeting reminder rang 30min ago :) [19:12] oh, and it's 19:11 UTC so I think I'm right ;) [19:12] highvoltage: can you confirm ? :) [19:12] this wednesday kind of snuck up on me [19:12] yep, it's the right time [19:12] yeah ! [19:12] (not that I have anything to say at the meeting anyway) [19:13] I'm just digging up my tomboy notes so that I can remember what I did the last week :) [19:13] I guess we should switch to -meeting, even if it's to say that we don't have anything to say :) [19:14] well, we have some seed changes, kstars has been dropped (in favour of kstars) and there's a bunch of other seed changes too but I don't have them open right now [19:15] I've been talking to LibreCAD upstream a bit off-list [19:16] they are eagre to have it in Edubuntu, they're just finalising logos, etc. then I'll review it for universe [19:16] => -meeting ? [19:16] d'oh [20:25] i think the desktop is in kdepim-runtime because the other akonadi packages are either the lib or the server, but the client and server probably dont have to be on the same system [20:26] then again, its used to start/stop the server, so id be inclined to put it into akonadi-server [20:26] ah right [20:27] we could just hide those menus, but that feels more like covering up the problem than fixing it [20:27] but as you said that's kind of hard to avoid since that's how kde upstream works [20:28] i think it should be possible to make akonaditray a separate package and have the actual kdepim applications depend on it instead of the whole runtime, maybe? [20:28] er i mean instead of including it in the whole runtime [20:29] like, to split up that package a bit [20:29] that would be nice [20:34] highvoltage: do you end up with akonadi-server installed too? [20:35] nvm. answer's yes [20:35] kdepim-runtime depends on it [20:35] yeah...python-kde4 just needs to be broken up so packages can depend on some subset of the kde platform [22:58] Hi