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pr0ph3thi all03:09
pr0ph3tany of you running xbmc? which version?03:10
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Gulfstreamare the latest dailies safe (do they install?)?07:38
Gulfstreamsorry... I meant, the current daily...07:52
rippsCan someone help me, a package a I'm trying to build for Natty get this:10:44
rippsusr/bin/ld: main.o: undefined reference to symbol 'xmlCleanupParser@@LIBXML2_2.4.30'10:44
rippsseems the new version of libxml in natty is incompatible10:44
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pr0ph3thi all11:31
pr0ph3thas anyone got  xbmc workin on natty 64bit?11:32
pr0ph3tworking*11:32
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BluesKajHey folks13:15
BluesKajuhoh, do i dare reboot ? just updated , now I get this : dependency problems - leaving unconfigured Errors were encountered while processing:  apport apport-kde13:46
Ian_CorneIt's just apport13:53
Ian_Corneas long as it's not dpkg you'll be fine :p13:53
BluesKajIan_Corne, well my other natty pc has had some boot probs , which can usually be fixed by dropping to a tty and updating or using the recovery mode and the "fix broken packages" dialog option .13:56
BluesKajjust wondering if apport has been part of the that problem13:56
BluesKajIan_Corne, had the same errors on the other natty box , and encountered no probs rebooting14:03
dneary_Hi15:09
dneary_nmbd is failing to start for me during an apt-get upgrade today, and it's blocking the rest15:09
dneary_Known issue?15:09
BluesKajlatest kernel version won't boot on my pc.  I had to drop to previous version15:54
DaekdroomBluesKaj, what's the lastest version?15:58
DaekdroomI been using .37-12 for quite awhile, and there aren't any updates.15:59
charlie-tcaBluesKaj: Is it related to the X packages upgrades?16:00
charlie-tca(topic)16:00
BluesKajDaekdroom, the grub fonts are so small on this large monitor I dibn't really check the version , but I booted in with 2.6.37-1116:01
DaekdroomWell, I have a 22" 1080p monitor and the grub fonts are very small as well, but I'm kinda sure -12 is working because uname -a says I'm using it :P16:01
BluesKajcharlie-tca, it could be ..I was stalling out and freezing before kdm started16:02
BluesKajDaekdroom, right , I'm using our tv , a 42"plasma , so the fonts in grub are too small too read16:04
BluesKajer to read16:04
BluesKajfrom this distance , about 3M16:06
BluesKajcould be my kde 4.6 upgrade too, not sure charlie-tca, Daekdroom16:08
DaekdroomIf KDM stopped working, then an older kernel weren't meant to solve it.16:09
* BluesKaj decides not to reboot til X org stack is fixed16:23
bullgard4Will Natty provide OpenOffice or LibreOffice?16:28
Daekdroombullgard4, LibreOffice is default in natty already16:28
bullgard4Daekdroom: Thank you.16:29
BluesKajuhoh , panel just crashed16:33
dneary_This samba issue is quite annoying16:48
dneary_It's blocking me from sharing a printer16:49
dneary_nmbd does not start for me, since I upgraded earlier (from 2 days ago). Is it a known issue? Error messages aren't much use, I'm afraid16:49
dneary_"nmbd pre-start process terminated with status 1"16:50
dneary_Funny though, I can't access cups via port 631 either, even though it says it's starting up fine16:51
dneary_Via localhost it's fine, but from another host it gives "unble to16:52
dneary_"unable to connect"16:52
dneary_So prob a permissions issue16:52
BluesKajok, back on the 2.6.37-12-generic, ...had an odd occurrence with plasma panel disappearing for no reason16:55
dneary_But still have that nmbd startup issue when upgrading16:55
dneary_And also the fact that sharing the printer in gnome-control-panel wasn't setting the shared option for cups...16:55
genii-aroundHeh, I have to remember not to always use the -y switch with apt-get dist-upgrade ... removed kubuntu-desktop on me due to some phonon deps16:56
BluesKajhey genii-around , i forgot the restore plasma panel command16:58
al-maisanhello, I am having trouble installing a package (python-scipy) on natty; the errors are as follows: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/558620/16:58
al-maisanany ideas how this could be resolved?16:59
genii-aroundBluesKaj: I haven't had to do it for a while but I think is something like kwin --replace or somesuch16:59
al-maisanalso, the quoted dependency "Depends: python-numpy (< 1:1.5)" is not in the python-scipy debian/control file16:59
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BluesKajok genii-around , thanks ..I'll check it out17:16
genii-aroundhttps://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2011-January/032355.htm ... "he requested URL /archives/ubuntu-devel/2011-January/032355.htm was not found on this server."17:29
genii-aroundThe last link in this room's topic ends in .htm instead of .html17:36
BluesKajgenii-around, good point , adding the "l" takes you to the proper site :)17:46
BluesKajhttps://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2011-January/032355.html17:47
=== Pici changed the topic of #ubuntu+1 to: Natty Narwhal 11.04 | Milestones: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NattyReleaseSchedule | Maverick/10.10 support in #ubuntu | Alpha 1 Released: http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/natty/alpha1 | Warning: New X.org stack is being uploaded, be warned about partial upgrades removing X packages: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2011-January/032355.html
rwwgenii-around: you have ops in here now, btw. all the (non-probation) #ubuntu people do ;)17:50
lixinfishhello, anyone using unity? I'm trying it now, and I don't know how to do everything, anywhere I can get a copy of documentation or something?17:50
BluesKajrww, just noticed , genii-around isn't around ..he's away atm17:52
charlie-tcamust depend on the irc client, mine ends in html17:54
charlie-tcaoh, pici fixed it17:54
Pici;)17:56
Gulfstreamare the latest dailies capable of installing successfully?17:56
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BluesKajGulfstream, apport has broken dependencies , but otherwiseread the MOTD in the Topic18:02
lixinfishanybody help.. I don't know how to show desktop, I don't know how to add applet, I don's know how to pin something to the left bar. Anywhere I can find the solution?18:06
lixinfishand, I don't know how to open a file-browser18:07
Gulfstreamlixinfish: sounds like you are using Unity18:08
dneary_Gulfstream, Funny :)18:08
lixinfishGulfstream: yep18:08
lixinfishnew to it, today18:08
lixinfisheverything become so weird18:08
Gulfstreamlixinfish: it does... I'd use the other desktop manager18:09
lixinfishso.. Ubuntu gona change to this unity in the next edition?18:09
lixinfishI think it should be easy to use, and I just don't know how18:10
lixinfishI try to ask in #ubuntu, but people there told me to come here...18:10
lixinfishGulfstream: btw, what desktop manager do you use?18:11
Gulfstreamlixinfish: the classic desktop18:11
GulfstreamI don't think it is really a different desktop manager...18:12
lixinfishGulfstream: so.. no way for a new user to use unity..?18:12
hifiwhy the heck my nm-applet has no icon... there are working icon sets installed18:13
lixinfishit's so sad, I can't find any documentation about it18:13
Gulfstreamlixinfish: I don't think it is possible right now18:13
lixinfishGulfstream: then why there is a 10.10 notebook edition with unity as I'm using it right now, not intend for people to use?18:14
Gulfstreamlixinfish: I thought you were using Natty.18:17
dneary_What could slow latency on an intranet to snail's pace?18:19
dneary_Massive packet loss on a router?18:19
BluesKajdneary_, using network manager on wifi ?18:20
dneary_BluesKaj, Yes18:20
dneary_How would I diagnosticate whether it's just me or everyone?18:21
BluesKajwhat encryption type, wep or wpa218:21
dneary_Uhmmm... yes?18:22
dneary_wpa2 I think18:22
dneary_A big long password18:22
BluesKajusing auto dns on the router ?18:22
dneary_yeah18:23
dneary_I have 2 laptops badly afflicted18:23
BluesKaj try manual google dns on the router , primary is 8.8.8.8 secondary is 8.8.4.418:24
dneary_Wondering if it's my OS's fault, or something I'm doing, or an attack of some sort, or something else18:25
lixinfishGulfstream: no, I'm using maverick.. the notebook edition.. just can't understand why no docs for how to use18:25
BluesKajthen in /etc/resolve,conf  make sure your nameserver settings are correct , you can find those by doing iwconfig in the terminal18:26
dneary_Surely iwconfig will give me the interface config for wireless interfaces?18:27
BluesKajit should18:27
dneary_Does it also give DNS info? Didn't think it did18:27
dneary_heh - funny stuff :)18:28
BluesKajno but it does give your router nameserver IP which you need for the resolv.conf file18:28
dneary_dneary@sligo:~$ ping 192.168.1.1218:28
dneary_PING 192.168.1.12 (192.168.1.12) 56(84) bytes of data.18:28
dneary_64 bytes from 192.168.1.12: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=2485 ms18:28
dneary_OK - looks like things are going awry in the router/modem18:29
BluesKajactually network manager should set the resolv.conf automatically18:29
dneary_I have one computer connected via wired internet & ping to that is faster, but still v irregular18:30
dneary_Pinging the router directly gives acceptable lag18:30
BluesKajrun ifconfig then iwconfig18:30
dneary_(I don't think bandwidth is a problem, but latency is painful)18:30
dneary_ifconfig doesn't give DNS information either18:31
dneary_BluesKaj, Are you sure you know this stuff well?18:31
BluesKajdneary_, can you edit the router settings from a webpage like router IP ?18:32
dneary_Seems to me like the IP address & resolv.conf get written by dhconfig once you connect to the access point18:32
dneary_BluesKaj, Sure18:32
BluesKajthat's where you set the manual dns settings for one thing18:33
BluesKajdneary_, I meant the nameserver IP for resolv.conf can sometimes be wrong18:37
dneary_Ah18:43
dneary_It looks OK - 192.168.1.118:43
dneary_Not a DNS issue on local network anyway - names are discovered w/ zeroconf18:44
dneary_And all local hosts are also in /etc/hosts18:44
dneary_So I can get to galway.local or just galway18:44
BluesKajthe nameserver is usully listed in the router , and I list the local IPs in hosts.allow under portmap ...makes it easier to ssh locally18:45
BluesKajdns can be an issue with latency on the internet side18:46
BluesKajdneary_, yeah the gateway IP and nameserver in resolv.conf are usually the same18:53
BluesKajerrands to do ...BBL18:57
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FloridaGuyi just did this ....    http://www.webupd8.org/2010/11/script-to-automatically-apply-200-lines.html    ..... to 10.10...going to upgrade to 11.04....will i have to reaply it19:53
BUGabundo_noXhey guys19:55
BUGabundo_noXwho broke X?19:55
BUGabundo_noXbjsnider: ^^^^19:55
FloridaGuyyou did19:56
BUGabundo_noXFloridaGuy: if i did i would be applying magic glue to it right now, instead of booting from a livecd19:57
BUGabundo_noXAFAIK i havent removed any packages19:59
MTecknologyUpgraded my server to 11.04 and now I get this    "2068 syslog    20   0 37264 8760 1016 S  175  1.7   1117:15 rsyslogd"20:01
anr78I see the daily build has torrents for mac. "This image is adjusted to work properly on Mac systems.". What kind of adjustments? Preinstalled mactel-support modules?20:01
MTecknologylovely :P   I wonder what's causing that change..20:01
BUGabundo_noXtime to give xorg-edgers a try then20:02
DaekdroomBUGabundo_noX, /topic20:02
BUGabundo_noXDaekdroom: i know20:03
BUGabundo_noXas i said, i havent removed anything20:03
Daekdroomand it's not necessary to remove packages to break X.20:03
BUGabundo_noXsure20:03
BUGabundo_noXupgrades will do it too20:03
BUGabundo_noXeither i downgrade X or upgrade the rest (from ppa)20:03
DaekdroomXorg-edgers works alright, for that matter.20:03
anr78should I use the mac-cd to create a virtual vboxmachine of 11.04? I dare not install native yet :)20:11
BUGabundo_noXit would seem even PPA isnt upgrading clearly20:13
charlie-tcaBUGabundo_noX: did you forget to read the topic again ;-)20:16
BUGabundo_noXLOL20:16
BUGabundo_noXi have read it20:16
BUGabundo_noXand the link too20:16
DaekdroomBUGabundo_noX, xserver-xorg-input-wacom is getting held back, isn't it?20:17
BUGabundo_noXmuch more20:17
BUGabundo_noXThe following packages have unmet dependencies:   xserver-xorg-video-openchrome: Depends: xorg-video-abi-8.0 which is a virtual package.   libwebkitgtk-1.0-common: Conflicts: libwebkit-1.0-common but 1.2.5-0ubuntu3 is installed.   libdrm-nouveau1a: Breaks: libdrm-nouveau1 but 2.4.23+git20110119.550fe2ca-0ubuntu0sarvatt is installed.   xserver-xorg-input-wacom: Depends: xorg-input-abi-11.0 which is a virtual package.20:17
DaekdroomOh well. I feel lucky I installed xorg-edgers before the dependency hell :P20:17
Daekdroomlibdrm-nouveau1 is getting deprecated, iirc20:18
charlie-tcathank goodness for BUGabundo_noX . I will wait to upgrade again... :-)20:19
BUGabundo_noX:)20:20
BUGabundo_noXgonna reboot20:21
BUGabundo_noXcant be much worse20:21
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BluesKajis apport really necessary? I'm tired of the errors20:28
coz_BluesKaj,   glad to see someone else has errors with apport20:28
Daekdroomcoz_, that's kinda selfish20:29
BluesKajcoz_, think I'l just remove it .20:29
BluesKajdo i care when hundreds of ppl are probly filing bugs with launchpad anyway :)20:30
coz_isnt apport for  debugging  or crash reports?20:30
BluesKajyup20:31
Gulfstreamshould I install the proprietary NVIDIA driver or the free experimental driver?20:35
BluesKajinstall the nvidi-current driver recommended in hardware20:36
BluesKajerr nvidia-current20:37
Gulfstreamis it safe to run dist-upgrade? I see that it will remove X packages so I am assuming that the upload is not yet finished.21:04
DaekdroomGulfstream, I wouldn't update any packages related to X at this point21:07
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carl0s-have there been any (Intel) video regressions lately (last week)? I have a white square floating around over flash plugin stuff, and other square-like patches over video playback, and the Unuty menu just doesn't appear any more. It's like a transparent box is appearing in place of the menu, i.e. something's happening, but there's nothing there21:49
BluesKajcarl0s-, read the topic URL ,21:55
BluesKajhttps://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2011-January/032355.html21:55
carl0s-BluesKaj, ah.. yes, thanks :-)21:55
carl0s-i'm reading it now. sounds exciting :)21:56
carl0s-I love being cutting edge :)21:58
carl0s-ooh there's a new xserver-xorg-video-intel already, since a couple of hours ago. awesome.21:59
pr0ph3thi all22:20
pr0ph3tdid I mess something up or is there a problem with ubuntu-desktop?22:21
popeyhmm, apport seems broken today22:40
yofelsudo service apport stop before upgrading will fix it22:43
yofelalthough there is a fix for that pending22:43
popeyI'm not upgrading i'm installing22:43
popeyI removed it22:43
popeyooo, how odd, i removed it but it still lets me stop it22:44
popeythanks22:44

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