[00:03] <MrChrisDruif> Bai robbmunson
[00:49] <Geocosm> I'm trying to make a script to run a file in /home/geo/progs/pms-linux-1.20.412 named PMS.sh... I have no idea what I'm doing. I've got the file in usr/local/bin but it's not coming up when I type it in a terminal or the run box.
[00:49] <Spreadsheet> Hmm, what?
[00:49] <Spreadsheet> PMS.sh is to run the file right?
[00:49] <Geocosm> In the file I have written: #!/bin/bash cd "/home/geo/progs/pms-linux-1.20.412" && ./PMS.sh
[00:50] <Spreadsheet> You should make your wording clearer...
[00:50] <Geocosm> Yeah. But when I create a launcher for it, it says my PS3 is an unknown renderer. I read to fix the problem you have to run the file from the directory.
[00:51] <Spreadsheet> What are you trying to do? If you want to run the program, without anything extra, you can just symlink it you know. I'll tell you how to symlink if you so desire
[00:51] <MrChrisDruif> Geocosm: What is it exactly what you are trying to accomplish ?
[00:52] <Geocosm> When I make a launcher for PS3 Media Server on my desktop it says my PS3 is  an 'unknown renderer' instead of 'PS3'. I did a little bit of googling and I found the solution is because I have to run the file directly from the folder where it is located.
[00:52] <Geocosm> I'm trying to make a script to do that, and then make a launcher for the script.
[00:52] <Spreadsheet> You don't need to make a script. Do you want a desktop icon?
[00:53] <Geocosm> Do you use PS3 Media Server? Because google is telling me to make a script or it won't work.
[00:53] <Spreadsheet> I'm not on Ubuntu, but I think that you should be able to make a launcher
[00:53] <Geocosm> I have a launcher. It doesn't work.
[00:53] <Spreadsheet> strange
[00:54] <MrChrisDruif> What did you put into the launcher?
[00:54] <Spreadsheet> #!/bin/sh /path/to/file
[00:54] <Geocosm> If I run it directly from the file by going to the folder location and clicking on it, it works.
[00:54] <Spreadsheet> If you type the file path directly, it will launch it. There's no need to cd
[00:57] <Geocosm> geo@Geo-Ubuntu:~/progs/pms-linux-1.20.412$ ./PMS.sh
[00:57] <Geocosm> That works.
[00:57] <Geocosm> In a terminal.
[00:58] <Geocosm> My script is completely broken lol.
[00:58] <Spreadsheet> I don't think cd should have quotes
[00:58] <Geocosm> What language is this?
[00:59] <MrChrisDruif> Spreadsheet: It ensures that the path is read....spaces would otherwise break the path O:-)
[00:59] <Geocosm> First of all, scripts go in /usr/local/bin correct?
[00:59] <Spreadsheet> Oh... learned something new today :)
[00:59] <Spreadsheet> Yes
[01:00] <Spreadsheet> Well if you want to put them on the path
[01:00] <Geocosm> Okay. Second of all, what is this first line #!/bin/sh ?
[01:00] <Spreadsheet> If you want it on the desktop, I think you should be able to just click it
[01:00] <Spreadsheet> Geocosm: it's a hashbang. It tells the OS to run it using the shell
[01:00] <Geocosm> Okay that's what I want.
[01:00] <Spreadsheet> /bin/sh is the shell interpreter
[01:01] <Spreadsheet> Yeah, also, use /bin/sh, not bash
[01:01] <Geocosm> Now how do I make the script open PMS.sh?
[01:01] <MrChrisDruif> Geocosm: It's the path to the bash shell interpreter, thanks Spreadsheet couldn't think of it :)
[01:01] <MrChrisDruif> PMS.sh is a script for the PS3 Media thing?
[01:01] <Spreadsheet> Geocosm: you want it on the desktop right? Write the file on the desktop. Then: cd ~/Desktop; chmod +x file.sh
[01:02] <Geocosm> I don't want all these icons on my desktop though.
[01:02] <Geocosm> It's got like 5
[01:02] <Geocosm> It won't run just on its own.
[01:02] <Geocosm> So I put them in /progs/pms-linuxblahblahblah
[01:02] <Spreadsheet> I am confused
[01:02] <Geocosm> Join the club :(
[01:02] <Spreadsheet> How do you want to run the script?
[01:02] <Spreadsheet> From shell or Desktop?
[01:03] <Geocosm> I just want the script to run. As soon as I do that there are many ways I can execute the script.
[01:03] <Spreadsheet> Ok. Do you know about permissions?
[01:03] <Geocosm> I can use CCSM or I can use a launcher.
[01:03] <Spreadsheet> if not, just chmod u+x the file
[01:03] <Geocosm> or I can just type it in GNOME-do
[01:03] <MrChrisDruif> Geocosm: I think you can use a launcher :)
[01:03] <MrChrisDruif> Maybe that would even work as well :)
[01:03] <Geocosm> Or I could use a launcher.
[01:03] <Spreadsheet> If the file is /progs/script.sh, then chmod u+x /progs/script.sh
[01:04] <Spreadsheet> You *need* to make it executable
[01:04] <Geocosm> ahhhh
[01:04] <Geocosm> That's my problem I think :)
[01:04] <Spreadsheet> Now try it, assuming your script is already there
[01:05] <Geocosm> Okay GNOME-do is pulling up the script name, but the script is still borked.
[01:05] <Geocosm> Got it :)
[01:05] <Spreadsheet> It worked?
[01:05] <Geocosm> Forgot to put ./ before PMS.sh
[01:05] <Geocosm> on the new line.
[01:05] <Geocosm> You guys rock!
[01:06] <Spreadsheet> np
[01:06]  * Geocosm does the happy PS3 Media Server dance
[01:06] <MrChrisDruif> Your welcome :)
[01:06] <MrChrisDruif> #happyhappyjoyjoy :D
[01:13] <johnny77> Web links are not opening the browser specified in the preferred applications. Trying to figure out why I checked my applications folder to see if I may be running the wrong program. I ran all three in terminal to see if any had any errors. Here is the pastebin: http://paste.ubuntu.com/558350/
[01:13] <Geocosm> I have trouble with the preferred applications thing not working, too.
[01:14] <Geocosm> Oh it says you don't have it?
[01:15] <johnny77> Geocosm: I've had a few different desktop environments and window managers on my computer. I would have to guess that the first one is a left over.
[01:15] <Geocosm> hm.
[01:18] <johnny77> Geocosm: I do, however, admit I've only had Ubuntu for about three months and don't know a whole lot.
[01:18] <Geocosm> Yeah I've had Ubuntu about that long too heh.
[01:18] <Geocosm> I've been messing around with it since 8.04 but I've been using it as my primary OS for the past 3 months or so.
[01:19] <Geocosm> So, do you currently have more than one desktop installed?
[01:21] <Geocosm> Your current desktop may be using/trying to look for a different preference manager than the one in system/preferred applications? I'm guessing, sorry. I stick to GNOME, myself.
[01:22] <johnny77> I originally installed Ubuntu, but I now also have installed LXDE and Fluxbox. I'm currently running fluxbox. My problem is only when I am logged into fluxbox.
[01:22] <Geocosm> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=8348
[01:24] <Geocosm> That help you at all?
[01:28] <MrChrisDruif> Bye all, off to bed :)
[01:28] <MrChrisDruif> johnny77: Good luck with your problem :)
[01:28] <sultan2> Good night ;)
[01:28] <johnny77> MrChrisDruif: thanks bye
[01:28] <MrChrisDruif> Bye sultan2
[01:29] <johnny77> I got two things out of that thread: first fluxbox is a WM and "does not provide these services" which I already knew.
[01:29] <johnny77> second that the gnome defaults were used.
[01:29] <johnny77> The problem I'm having is the gnome defaults are set to what I want. But it is still not opening what I want.
[01:30] <Geocosm> Hrm.
[01:30] <Geocosm> Wonder why.
[01:31] <johnny77> Maybe when I run the gnome default applications program in fluxbox it doesn't set the variable correctly. I'm gonna jump into gnome and see what the default applications program tells me is set to default.
[01:32] <paultag> johnny77: it's not fluxbox ;)
[01:32] <paultag> johnny77: fluxbox is a window manager, not a desktop env
[01:32] <paultag> johnny77: you need to start something to handle that, like, say, gnome-settings-manager
[01:32] <paultag> fluxbox has zero to do with how what starts what
[01:32] <johnny77> paultag: i know that.... ak|ra pointed that out quite well to me this afternoon.
[01:33] <paultag> johnny77: aye, I saw that ;)
[01:33] <paultag> johnny77: ak|ra is actually very nice
[01:40] <paultag> Humm, johnny left
[01:45] <paultag> johnny77: hey, did you try using gnome-settings-manager?
[01:46] <johnny77> paultag: I can't find that and it's not in synaptic, but I did find gnome-settings-dameon. Trying to figure this all out....
[01:47] <paultag> johnny77: it's a command ;)
[01:47] <paultag> johnny77: it's installed with gnome it's self
[01:47] <paultag> johnny77: gnome starts it on login to handle stuff like keybindings &c.
[01:51] <JackyAlcine> paultag: I get the same issue when I tried running it from the Run dialog in GNOME..
[01:51] <JackyAlcine> That johnny77 is having.
[01:51] <paultag> er... gnome-settings-daemon, then?
[01:51] <paultag> JackyAlcine: ^
[01:51] <paultag> JackyAlcine: do you mind helping johnny77 while I walk back home?
[01:51] <JackyAlcine> Hold on, isn't the manager part of Unity? It was here while Unity was installed but after I removed it, it disappeared.
[01:51] <paultag> gnome-settings-something-or-other
[01:51] <JackyAlcine> No problem.
[01:52] <paultag> JackyAlcine: wait, what?
[01:52] <paultag> JackyAlcine: no, it's GNOME
[01:52] <paultag> JackyAlcine: check apt-cache for packages liek gnome-settings* and installed binaries. One love
[01:52] <paultag> BRB
[01:53] <JackyAlcine> yeah. it was there before, I remember running it when I had the Unity DM installed.
[01:53] <JackyAlcine> johnny77: Try running gnome-wm.
[01:54] <johnny77> JackyAlcine: it told me another WM is already running.
[01:56] <JackyAlcine> What system are you running?
[01:56] <JackyAlcine> Like what distro of ubuntu?
[01:57] <johnny77> I'm running fluxbox installed on Ubuntu 10.10.
[01:58] <JackyAlcine> Hm, fluxbox as your window manager, eh? And you're unable to log into your session?
[01:59] <holstein> johnny77: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=110158
[01:59] <holstein> is that relavant enough?
[02:00] <johnny77> When I'm logged into fluxbox, I can not get it to load web links in the browser i prefer.
[02:01] <holstein> johnny77: the way i did it using fluxbox
[02:01] <holstein> i just copied the link
[02:01] <holstein> and pasted it
[02:01] <holstein> in te browser
[02:01] <holstein> the*
[02:01] <holstein> but i know what you're talking about
[02:04] <JackyAlcine> Hm, is this your post or someone's elses?
[02:04] <JackyAlcine> And I think that the session manager might be the one to blame, if your configuration are acting up.
[02:07] <johnny77> could putting "export DE=gnome" in fluxbox startup file work? Is that what it's saying?
[02:35] <shamueoconnor> hello i have sound problems i had linux mint before and i had and solved the problem i just need help o know how again
[02:36] <shamueoconnor> i had to uninstall a sound manager
[02:36] <holstein> shamueoconnor: pulse?
[02:36] <shamueoconnor> yep
[02:36] <holstein> 10.10 ?
[02:36] <shamueoconnor> probably
[02:36] <shamueoconnor> sry iu have a brokenn hand
[02:37] <shamueoconnor> cant type fast
[02:37] <shamueoconnor> how would i uninstall it completly i stopped doing using mint a year ago
[02:37] <holstein> http://jechem.blogspot.com/2010/10/how-to-remove-pulseaudio-on-ubuntu-1010.html
[02:37] <shamueoconnor> thanks
[02:38] <shamueoconnor> holstein thanks
[02:38] <holstein> :)
[02:53] <JackyAlcine> johnny77: Sorry, had an issue. But possibly.
[02:53] <johnny77> JackyAlcine: I had to jump off for a while. Sorry.
[03:19]  * robbmunson is back.
[03:26] <johnny77> If anyone is following my saga, I got it fixed. I still have no idea how it works, but I uninstalled firefox to force it to choose chrome, then reinstalled firefox. So far it still loads chrome, but we'll see what a reboot does.
[03:53] <robbmunson> on phone, brb.
[04:15] <choas> hello all
[04:16] <choas> i was wondering if anyone here has any experience with ubuntu and toshiba tecra laptops
[04:23] <Linuxnewbhead> hello
[04:23] <JackyAlcine> Hey Linuxnewbhead
[04:23] <Linuxnewbhead> hi there... il think I may be in the right place..
[04:24] <Linuxnewbhead> i'm new to LInux... but I'm VERY eager to join the new fascinating open source world of Linux distro flavors
[04:24] <Linuxnewbhead> i'm attempting my first install of ubuntu 10.10
[04:24] <Linuxnewbhead> this is a support chatroom correct?
[04:25] <aveilleux> Si
[04:26] <Linuxnewbhead> so how is everyone tonight?
[04:26] <bioterror> it's 06:30 in the morning ;)
[04:26] <IAmNotThatGuy> 9:55 here
[04:26] <aveilleux> Linuxnewbhead: This isn't really a chatroom for general discussion.... It's for support mainly. There's an offtopic channel at #ubuntu-beginners-team
[04:27] <Linuxnewbhead> well i just so happen to need support at the moment
[04:27] <aveilleux> Linuxnewbhead: Then ask
[04:27] <JackyAlcine> It's 11:27 PM here.
[04:27] <Linuxnewbhead> okay.. I don't mean to be rude or interuptive of anything
[04:27] <JackyAlcine> No go ahead Linuxnewbhead
[04:28] <bioterror> kids kids
[04:28] <aveilleux> Linuxnewbhead: I didn't mean to sound brusque
[04:28] <bioterror> !ask | Linuxnewbhead
[04:28] <ubot2> Linuxnewbhead: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[04:29] <Linuxnewbhead> I am attempting an install of Ubuntu 10.10 64 bit distro from Windows... normally of course Linux is installed from directly from an ISO mounted to either a usb drive or a disk.. but currently I cannot obtain a flash drive... and my optical drive is not responding in Windows XP....
[04:29] <Linuxnewbhead> so what I'm attempting to do... instead of the tradtional method
[04:29] <bioterror> dont do wubi
[04:30] <Linuxnewbhead> ues i've heard mixed reviews about wubi
[04:30] <IAmNotThatGuy> Linuxnewbhead, are you into your windows now and trying to install it?
[04:30] <Linuxnewbhead> so... i'm attempting a different method
[04:30] <Linuxnewbhead> is install the GRUB boot loader into the windows boot.ini mbr
[04:30] <bioterror> hahaha no
[04:30] <Linuxnewbhead> yes I'm in windows currently...
[04:30] <bioterror> grub goes to MBR and is launched before windows chainloader
[04:31] <bioterror> if I remember right
[04:31] <IAmNotThatGuy> Linuxnewbhead, do not do that. just boot from the Disk at startup and install it
[04:31] <Linuxnewbhead> well.. see my issue is my optical drive is not responding in Windows
[04:31]  * bioterror nods
[04:31] <bioterror> Linuxnewbhead, make an USB stick then
[04:31] <IAmNotThatGuy> *in windows* is not needed here
[04:32] <Linuxnewbhead> oh lol... okay thak you
[04:32] <IAmNotThatGuy> change the BIOS settings and boot it. it dont depend on the previous OS you installed
[04:32] <Linuxnewbhead> hmm... i've read about the usb stick method as well
[04:32] <bioterror> and btw. hang here or check the forums, you dont see any mixed reviews about wubi then ;)
[04:33] <Linuxnewbhead> unebootin allows you to make a bootable iso and mount it into a usb stick correct?
[04:33] <IAmNotThatGuy> Linuxnewbhead, you think your optical drive will work if you re-install windows?
[04:33] <bioterror> Linuxnewbhead, I'm suggesting to use Unetootin
[04:34] <Linuxnewbhead> Iamnotthatguy... yes possibly it might respond.. but since Linux is very very good at hardware troubleshooting and testing of hardware... a lot of times Ubuntu an dother distro's will detect hardware issues for you automatically on start up
[04:35] <Linuxnewbhead> that's why I wanted to try and upload Linux first before I try an reformat of NTFS in windows
[04:35] <IAmNotThatGuy> Linuxnewbhead, you are in a laptop? if so, which brand?
[04:35] <Linuxnewbhead> yup
[04:35] <Linuxnewbhead> Acer 7520 G ....
[04:35] <Linuxnewbhead> single hard disk.. i believe it's IDE channel
[04:36] <Linuxnewbhead> i have a current partition set up for a dual boot which was what I was attempting
[04:36] <Linuxnewbhead> i just don't have a flash drive handy.. so i thought this method of uploading grub to override the NTDLR would be useful.. but apparently it's risky
[04:37] <holstein> if you have another machine
[04:37] <holstein> you can install to the hard drive in another machine
[04:37] <holstein> that can work pretty well if you dont tweak too much
[04:37] <holstein> til after you move
[04:37] <bioterror> if you have another machine, you can make pxe boot :D
[04:37] <Linuxnewbhead> hmm.. pxe boot?
[04:38] <holstein> bioterror: HA
[04:38] <holstein> even better :)
[04:38] <Linuxnewbhead> and yes I didn't think about that holstein.. but another machine would prove safer and allow me to install Linux
[04:38] <Linuxnewbhead> and test it in a more safe way.. i have already backed up my dad
[04:38] <Linuxnewbhead> data**
[04:39] <bioterror> my friends and my work has usb dvd-drives, I've loaned them :D
[04:40] <bioterror> for a mystical reason, I havent bought one yet
[04:40] <Linuxnewbhead> yea making boot iso's on flash drives with linux is apparently much easier.. for other OS's you must build and entire file system onto the flash drive
[04:41] <Linuxnewbhead> to make a live boot
[04:41] <bioterror> that's what unetbootin does
[04:41] <Linuxnewbhead> (i apologize if I use incorrect terminology.. but I'm pretty sure my lingo is correct... I'm still a bit of a newbie)
[04:41] <bioterror> it extracts the .iso image to flashdrive and do some magic
[04:41] <Linuxnewbhead> ohh.. alright.. interesting I didn't know that..
[04:42] <Linuxnewbhead> you can make custom boots as well w/ unebootin
[04:42] <bioterror> what do you mean?
[04:42] <Linuxnewbhead> many thanx for the help though...
[04:43] <Linuxnewbhead> i think i will just stick it out and buy a flash drive stick
[04:43] <holstein> might need to buy a rom drive
[04:44] <Linuxnewbhead> but believe it not... just fyi the menu.lst was in fact meant to edit in order to make a custom boot....
[04:44] <Linuxnewbhead> yea rom drive might be a necessity too
[04:45] <holstein> depends on what you have laying around the house
[04:45] <holstein> im about over discs
[04:45] <bioterror> menu.lst is for grub 1 (legacy) and grub.cfg (grub2) is something we use today (in the future!!)
[04:46] <Linuxnewbhead> yes... ;yes yes yes
[04:46] <Linuxnewbhead> so I've read
[04:46] <bioterror> so if you're reading guides and they use menu.lst, not good. too old information
[04:46] <Linuxnewbhead> it seems to have much more viable boot options and capabilities such as themes... apparently you can even use scripting commands within grub.cfg
[04:47] <Linuxnewbhead> lol... yes... believe it or not I was just about to attempt an old guide method to edit menu.lst... but then I realized that grub2 was the new boot loader Lmao
[04:49] <Linuxnewbhead> well thanks again for your help... I think I will just use the unebootin method
[04:50] <Linuxnewbhead> cheers and many thanks!
[06:36] <luptonicedtea> Hello.  I've just built a new computer and want to minecraft.  I've downloaded the file, as well as Open JDK Java 6 Runtime, and I just can't figure out where to go from here.  I've changed the extracted folder to open with the Java, and I've given it permission to run as a program.  Something I'm missing?
[09:11] <MrChrisDruif> Why can't I summon the topic here? :-/
[09:12] <bioterror> what?
[09:13] <MrChrisDruif> I want to copy the topic for LoCo team explanation
[09:13] <bioterror> you need to say /topic
[09:13] <bioterror> and it will be prompted
[09:13] <MrChrisDruif> I did <_<"
[09:13] <MrChrisDruif> Didn't show <_<"
[09:14] <bioterror> pidgin :D
[09:14] <bioterror> how about a real irc client
[09:14] <MrChrisDruif> bioterror: I've got multi-protocol set up...I like it better :)
[09:14] <bioterror> so they say
[09:15] <bioterror> seems like it is better, as you cant see the topic with a proper command
[09:15] <bioterror> /quote topic #ubuntu-beginners
[09:15] <bioterror> try that one
[09:16] <MrChrisDruif> Didn't work...
[09:16] <bioterror> works for me
[09:16] <bioterror> :D
[09:17] <MrChrisDruif> Welcome to the Ubuntu Beginners Team support channel || Please do not wait to ask question, simply ask! If anyone knows the answer, they will most likely reply. || Please note, public logs of this channel are available on irclogs.ubuntu.com || Want offtopic? Head over to #ubuntu-beginners-team < did I mis anything bioterror?
[09:19] <MrChrisDruif> Typed it over myself :P
[09:19] <bioterror> hoh
[15:09] <ereotav> ubuntu 10.10 not recgonizing hp dv9000 keyboard or trackpad. How do i fiz this?
[15:17] <ereotav> ubuntu 10.10 not recgonizing hp dv9000 keyboard or trackpad. How do i fiz this?
[15:19] <bioterror> ereotav, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=512059
[15:21] <ereotav> so installing the synatpc driver should fix both?
[15:26] <duanedesign> hello ereotav
[15:26] <ereotav> hey
[15:35] <duanedesign> ereotav: could you run this command:   gconftool-2 --type string --set /apps/gnome_settings_daemon/keybindings/touchpad ""
[15:36] <duanedesign> what it does is explained here: http://linux.aldeby.org/howto-ubuntu-linux-on-hp-pavilion-dv2000-dv6000-dv9000-series-laptops.html/5#touchpad
[15:36] <ereotav> well as of now i cant run my comp cuz i dont have a mouse or anything.
[15:36] <ereotav> but ill email it and try it later
[15:37] <mutu> hola
[15:38] <ereotav> thanks
[15:41] <duanedesign> ereotav: also if this is a fresh install run the updates. You can do that with command:  sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[15:41] <ereotav> right now its a super sloppy install...vista other partition..i want to work out all the kinks before going full blown
[15:43] <mutu> Why it serves an url scraper
[15:43] <mutu> hi
[18:36] <luptonicedtea> Hey! I just built a computer, and am trying to install minecraft.  I have it downloaded, but I can't figure out how to make it run.
[18:36] <bioterror> luptonicedtea, remove openjdk and icedtea , enable partner repository and install sun-java6-{bin,jre,plugin,fonts}
[18:39] <luptonicedtea> I have removed openjdk and already have sun-java-6 installed.  I'm not sure what you mean by "enable partner repository"
[18:41] <bioterror> (last time someone asked that, he played that minecraft in a browser)
[18:41] <bioterror> I dunno if you have downloaded something
[18:41] <luptonicedtea> Yeah, I was trying to run the program itself.
[18:41] <luptonicedtea> I had it running on my laptop, but now I can't figure out what's different.
[18:41] <bioterror> and the program is a file?
[18:42] <luptonicedtea> minecraft_alpha_1.1.2.tar.gz
[18:42] <luptonicedtea> and when I extract it, there is nothing shown
[18:42] <bioterror> in terminal tar zxvf minecraft_alpha_1.1.2.tar.gz
[18:43] <luptonicedtea> mmmk
[18:43] <luptonicedtea> i did
[18:44] <bioterror> and you saw it extracting
[18:44] <bioterror> right?
[18:44] <luptonicedtea> yeah
[18:44] <bioterror> is there a binary in that directory or minecraft.jar or what
[18:45] <luptonicedtea> minecraft_name.jar
[18:45] <bioterror> java -jar minecraft_name.jar
[18:45] <luptonicedtea> Unrecognized option: -minecraft_name.jar
[18:45] <luptonicedtea> Could not create the Java virtual machine.
[18:46] <bioterror> hmmm what
[18:46] <bioterror> something not right
[18:46] <bioterror> did you copy & paste that line
[18:47] <luptonicedtea> java -jar minecraft_name.jar ?
[18:47] <luptonicedtea> yes
[18:47] <luptonicedtea> Unable to access jarfile minecraft_name.jar
[18:49] <luptonicedtea>  got it
[18:49] <luptonicedtea> i downloaded minecraft from a separate website when it didn't work the first time, 'cause I'm an idiot.
[18:50] <luptonicedtea> After installing Sun Java 6 and removing the other one, I redownloaded the original minecraft.jar, enabled permission, and ran it in sun java 6.  it's now running.  Thank you very much.
[18:50] <bioterror> np
[19:47] <Androoo> hello there, quite new to ubuntu, keep having issues with grub wiping my vista install from the menu that seems to coninside with (I think?) a kernal update on the automatic updates - is this a bug ?     i
[19:48] <eric1> My internet stopped working and I can no longer see the networking icon in the panel. Please Help
[19:58] <Cial> So I think this is the right place to ask this.. Does anyone know a way to run a .gif image on the desktop?
[19:59] <luptonicedtea> Hey! I just assembled a computer and am having trouble with my graphics card.  It's an AMD Radeon 6850, and the disc that came with it only has support for Windows 7.  I've read that there isn't much out there for AMD graphics cards for Linux, but I didn't know if anyone here had an answer.
[20:01] <bioterror> !ati | luptonicedtea
[20:01] <ubot2> luptonicedtea: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[20:05] <luptonicedtea> It says:
[20:05] <luptonicedtea> 05:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Device 6739
[20:05] <luptonicedtea> But this card only has DVI and HDMI out, firstly, and the website ubot gave me doesn't have this card on the list.  Problem?
[20:06] <luptonicedtea> And, also, the "Hardware Drivers" wizard returns no proprietary drivers when I scan.
[20:11] <kristian-aalborg> can there be another reason for youtube being slow than their servers? flash is not working too well for me atm
[20:12] <bioterror> kristian-aalborg, I think you know that you can look your CPU usage
[20:12] <bioterror> and see if it's 100%
[20:16] <bioterror> luptonicedtea, http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx?type=2.4.1&product=2.4.1.3.42&lang=English
[20:17] <luptonicedtea> Wow. Are you  magic? :)
[20:19] <kristian-aalborg> it seems to happen at random, but will check that next time
[20:21] <kristian-aalborg> hurm, cpu and ram seems not to change when it happens... probably youtube then
[20:23] <luptonicedtea> bioterror , gedit really is no liking this .run file.  It says:
[20:24] <luptonicedtea> gedit has not been able to detect the character encoding.
[20:24] <luptonicedtea> Please check that you are not trying to open a binary file.
[20:24] <luptonicedtea> Select a character encoding from the menu and try again.
[20:24] <bioterror> how about README or INSTALL
[20:24] <luptonicedtea> It only downloaded one file, ati-driver-installer-11-1-x86.x86_64.run
[20:25] <bioterror> chmod +x ati-driver-installer-11-1-x86.x86_64.run
[20:25] <bioterror> ./ati-driver-installer-11-1-x86.x86_64.run
[20:25] <bioterror> in terminal
[20:25] <bioterror> and in same directory
[20:26] <bioterror> probably ~/Downloads
[20:27] <bioterror> not sure if you need to run it as a root
[20:27] <bioterror> as I'm having only 4xxx radeon and I can use opensource drivers ;)
[20:28] <luptonicedtea> So, what exactly do I type into terminal?
[20:28] <luptonicedtea> ~/Downloads chmod +x ati-driver-installer-11-1-x86.x86_64.run
[20:28] <bioterror> open terminal
[20:29] <bioterror> cd Downloads
[20:29] <bioterror> chmod +x ati-driver-installer-11-1-x86.x86_64.run
[20:29] <bioterror> sudo chmod
[20:29] <bioterror> remember sudo
[20:29] <bioterror> sudo sh chmod +x ati-driver-installer-11-1-x86.x86_64.run
[20:30] <luptonicedtea> why won't it let me paste?
[20:30] <luptonicedtea> rofl
[20:30] <bioterror> use middle button
[20:30] <bioterror> but you should read that "release notes"
[20:31] <bioterror> that pdf file tells you what to do
[20:32] <luptonicedtea> I... don't see any "release notes" \/
[20:32] <luptonicedtea> =/
[20:32] <luptonicedtea> and I'm getting sh: Can't open chmod
[20:32] <bioterror> oh sorry
[20:32] <bioterror> take the chmod off
[20:32] <bioterror> :D
[20:33] <bioterror> my fault as I just pasted that line
[20:33] <luptonicedtea> it's cool
[20:33] <luptonicedtea> and there are a lot of dots running :)
[20:34] <luptonicedtea> The ATI Catalyst (TM) Poprietary Driver installation is complete. Blah blah blah. System must be rebooted.
[20:35] <luptonicedtea> KThxbrb
[20:38] <luptonicedtea> ffs
[20:38] <luptonicedtea> So, now I'm back to Minecraft not working. Rofl.
[20:40] <luptonicedtea> and I can't watch videos fullscreen in youtube
[20:41] <luptonicedtea> or hulu
[20:41] <luptonicedtea> It says that a plugin has crashed.
[20:42] <bioterror> :D
[20:42] <bioterror> which plugin
[20:48] <luptonicedtea> /opt/google/chrome/libgcflashplayer.so =)
[20:49] <bioterror> hmmm
[20:51] <bioterror> you have 64bit ubuntu?
[20:52] <luptonicedtea> i don't think so
[20:52] <luptonicedtea> i'm pretty sure i don't
[20:53] <bioterror> luptonicedtea, in terminal: uname -s
[20:53] <bioterror> sorry
[20:53] <luptonicedtea> Linux
[20:53] <bioterror> uname -m
[20:53] <luptonicedtea> haha
[20:53] <bioterror> :D
[20:53] <luptonicedtea> i686
[20:53] <bioterror> Im watching tv :D
[20:53] <luptonicedtea> haha. nice.  Thanks again for doing this.
[20:54] <luptonicedtea> The uname -m reported i686
[20:55] <bioterror> yes
[20:56] <bioterror> does that flash crash again after restarting chromium
[20:57] <luptonicedtea> yeah
[21:00] <bioterror> hi mohi
[21:00] <IAmNotThatGuy> hello bioterror
[21:00] <bioterror> no sleep?
[21:01] <bioterror> luptonicedtea, you might have to deinstall that catalyst
[21:02] <luptonicedtea> Awesome. How do I do that?
[21:02] <bioterror> you looked that release notes?
[21:02] <luptonicedtea> I never found them.
[21:02] <bioterror> http://www2.ati.com/relnotes/Catalyst_11.1_Linux_Installer.pdf
[21:03] <luptonicedtea> What does this mean I should do? =/
[21:03] <luptonicedtea> "1 Launch the Terminal Application/Window and navigate to the /usr/share/ati folder.
[21:03] <luptonicedtea> 2 With superuser permissions, enter the command "sh ./fglrx-uninstall.sh"
[21:04] <ereotav> bioterror: I followed the instructions in the link you gave me earlier about trackpads. It worked but I still cant get the enable\disable button to function properly
[21:05] <bioterror> luptonicedtea, sudo = super user
[21:06] <luptonicedtea> right...
[21:06] <bioterror> ereotav, it was that dv9000?
[21:06] <bioterror> !sudo | luptonicedtea
[21:06] <ereotav> yes
[21:06] <ubot2> luptonicedtea: sudo is a command to run command-line programs with superuser privileges ("root") (also see !cli). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information. For graphical applications see !gksu (GNOME, Xfce), or !kdesudo (KDE). If you're unable to execute commands with sudo see: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/fixsudo
[21:06] <luptonicedtea> I don't understand directories. =/
[21:06] <luptonicedtea> it says ./blahblahblah
[21:06] <bioterror> !filesystem ! luptonicedtea
[21:06] <ubot2> bioterror: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[21:07] <bioterror> !ext4 | luptonicedtea
[21:07] <ubot2> Factoid 'ext4' not found
[21:07] <bioterror> kraah
[21:07] <bioterror> :D
[21:07] <luptonicedtea> :P
[21:07] <bioterror> luptonicedtea, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=258611
[21:10] <bioterror> ereotav, I have to admit that I'm really hands down with the HP consumer laptops
[21:10] <bioterror> ereotav, back in the days I did alot work with my co-workers laptop and after all he decided to try opensuse and everything was working withotu problems
[21:11] <bioterror> he had dv6somethingsomething
[21:11] <bioterror> and as a reward he asked if I'm a redwine guy and I said I prefer whiskey. I got a bottle of scotch and I've never drank so crappy whiskey :D
[21:11] <bioterror> even with coke it made me almost puke :D
[21:12] <luptonicedtea> 1 Launch the Terminal Application/Window and navigate to the /usr/share/ati folder.
[21:12] <luptonicedtea> 2 With superuser permissions, enter the command "sh ./fglrx-uninstall.sh
[21:12] <luptonicedtea> Still completely lost.
[21:12] <bioterror> luptonicedtea, cd /usr/share/ati
[21:13] <bioterror> luptonicedtea, sudo sh ./fglrx-uninstall.sh
[21:14] <luptonicedtea> "sh: can't open ./fglrx-uninstall.sh"
[21:15] <luptonicedtea> nevermind
[21:15] <luptonicedtea> I'm just an idiot.  "restore of system environment completed"
[22:05] <Dangr_> I have an IRC related question. I haven't used it since middle/high school so its been a good 10+ years
[22:06] <Dangr_> How do you mention a name when talking to someone in the main chatroom but not in a private chat
[22:06] <Dangr_> I see messages directed to users in the main window who have questions but don't want to type it by hand so I'm figureing there isa  short cut
[22:07] <holstein> you mean like Dangr_ ?
[22:07] <holstein> or holstein
[22:07] <pleia2> Dangr_: you type the first letter or two of their nickname and then hit tab
[22:07] <Dangr_> yep!
[22:07] <holstein> tab complete?
[22:07] <Dangr_> thats exactly it
[22:07] <Dangr_> thanks!
[22:07] <pleia2> sure :)
[23:10] <ereotav> what is the format that ubuntu prefers for external hdd
[23:10] <bioterror> you mean filesystem
[23:10] <Spreadsheet> There's no preference for FS. Most of them work
[23:11] <Spreadsheet> You should go with NTFS as every computer can read that
[23:11] <bioterror> its up to you
[23:11] <bioterror> a golden path is EXT4
[23:11] <bioterror> Spreadsheet, noooooo......
[23:11] <Spreadsheet> Why not?
[23:12] <bioterror> becouse its NTFS. a crappy "journaling" fs
[23:12] <bioterror> if someone is full ubuntu, theres really no reason to use ntfs
[23:12] <bioterror> rather ext4, xfs, reiser4 or jfs
[23:12] <bioterror> what ever suits for the use
[23:13] <bioterror> I have ext4 and xfs
[23:13] <Spreadsheet> Well if it's just Ubuntu, yeah, any can work
[23:13] <ereotav> well ill be transfering from linux to mac mostly
[23:13] <Spreadsheet> Unless it's SSD
[23:13] <bioterror> doh
[23:13] <bioterror> mac :D
[23:13] <Spreadsheet> NTFS
[23:14] <Spreadsheet> OSX supports it. I tried one on this MBP and it works
[23:14] <ereotav> does that have th 4gb limit?
[23:14] <Spreadsheet> No, the 4gb is for FAT
[23:14] <bioterror> nope
[23:14] <bioterror> FAT32 has
[23:14] <Spreadsheet> NTFS will be ok with most disks
[23:14] <Spreadsheet> You won't notice the difference
[23:14] <ereotav> i am viewing the properties for it now and it says filesytem msdos
[23:14] <ereotav> is msdos fat32
[23:16] <bioterror> yes
[23:16] <ereotav> oohhh good
[23:17] <ereotav> bioterror: thanks man..on and i got my dv9000 keyboard and trackpad to work perfectly thanks for the info
[23:19] <bioterror> ereotav, np
[23:21] <ereotav> oh lastly.. i currentyl have vista and ubuntu installed...and i wanto to do a clean install of ubuntu ..is it as easy as putting the cd in a chosseing only ubuntu? would that do it?
[23:21] <bioterror> yes
[23:21] <bioterror> user whole hard disk
[23:21] <bioterror> use
[23:22] <ereotav> ok. thanks
[23:22] <bioterror> awesome choise that is if you do it
[23:22] <bioterror> bug #1
[23:22] <ubot2> bioterror: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1 (Not reporting large bug)
[23:22] <ereotav> def will cuz i have a xp disc that i can put on Vbox
[23:23] <bioterror> :)
[23:23] <ereotav> haha nice bug link
[23:28] <ereotav> im going to go do a clean install now..hope all goes well
[23:48] <Spreadsheet> When someone has a problem, should we ask them what they are trying to do and offer a better solution, or just try to help them their way?
[23:49] <bioterror> hmmm
[23:49] <bioterror> it depends
[23:49] <bioterror> the skills of help seeker
[23:49] <bioterror> and what he is trying to do
[23:50] <bioterror> I think the best case is to give some guidance
[23:50] <bioterror> let him learn on the way to solution
[23:50] <MrChrisDruif> The skills of what....hai bioterror
[23:50] <MrChrisDruif> :)
[23:51] <bioterror> but ofcourse, sometimes it's just better to give all commands
[23:52] <bioterror> you have to choose how you help and what's the best practice for the best solution and have a satisfied "customer"
[23:53] <bioterror> if there's a !-command in bot, I will handle it to someone who is asking help
[23:54] <bioterror> so my method is to give mainly guidance as it helps most, but ofcourse I can share part of my knowledge too ;)
[23:55] <geirha> In my personal experience, it depends on my mood and how long it would take to explain a better solution ^^
[23:55] <bioterror> yeah, that too
[23:55] <bioterror> I'm always grumpy