| damnsmalllinux23 | how do i become op? | 00:08 |
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| h00k | damnsmalllinux23: I don't believe there are any active calls for new Operators, but more information can be found on the wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/IrcTeam/OperatorRequirements | 00:10 |
| damnsmalllinux23 | to h00k: can you give me op? if you right click on my name and go to mode then give half or give op. and why does everyone have yellow dots? | 00:12 |
| h00k | damnsmalllinux23: no, it doesn't work that way. And the dots colors depend on the client you use. | 00:13 |
| damnsmalllinux23 | like... | 00:13 |
| h00k | like I use irssi, so I don't see yellow dots by people. | 00:14 |
| damnsmalllinux23 | hey are you are ubuntu? | 00:14 |
| h00k | damnsmalllinux23: perhaps you should check the documentation on whatever client you're using | 00:14 |
| h00k | damnsmalllinux23: yes? | 00:14 |
| persia | The yellow dots probably represent voice, rather than op. | 00:14 |
| damnsmalllinux23 | well can you do the share desktop thing to my computer? | 00:15 |
| h00k | damnsmalllinux23: For what purpose? In theory, I could. I don't want to, however. | 00:17 |
| damnsmalllinux23 | can you please? i need you to help me with something so that you can see my cp as i do it. | 00:18 |
| h00k | damnsmalllinux23: no, this isn't a support related room. Do you have any other questions about the OP process? If not, please feel free to /part the channel | 00:19 |
| * h00k shrugs | 00:19 | |
| gpc | h00k: see !canibeanop | 00:20 |
| h00k | gpc: *that* is what it is. I always forget that one | 00:20 |
| Pici | Feel free to add a better alias. | 00:20 |
| gpc | Pici: would be hard to find better less "ugly" alias to that | 00:21 |
| h00k | perhaps !opme or something | 00:22 |
| h00k | !opprocess | 00:22 |
| Pici | !helphelpimbeingoppressed | 00:22 |
| gpc | haha | 00:22 |
| * persia hands Pici some repression as a side dish | 00:22 | |
| h00k | yeah...I considered that after :) | 00:22 |
| gpc | !canihaveops | 00:25 |
| h00k | an African Swallow? | 00:25 |
| gpc | !canihaveops is <alias> canibeanop | 00:26 |
| ubottu | I'll remember that, gpc | 00:26 |
| gpc | !canihaveop is <alias> canibeanop | 00:27 |
| gpc | fine don't | 00:27 |
| * gpc :P and :( | 00:27 | |
| h00k | d'aw | 00:27 |
| * h00k pats gpc on the back | 00:27 | |
| gpc | h00k: can you right click on my name and give me op or half op :P | 00:28 |
| * persia points out that not all clients have such "right-click" functionality. | 00:28 | |
| gpc | persia: then such clients are not full clients :) | 00:30 |
| h00k | when I right click, I get terminal options :) (irssi) | 00:31 |
| gpc | like building a car without seat belts | 00:31 |
| * persia stoutly defends irssi | 00:31 | |
| gpc | !canihaveop is <alias> canibeanop | 00:31 |
| persia | gpc, Note that not all mice have right buttons (and not all pointing devices have buttons at all) | 00:31 |
| gpc | why do I not get a response? | 00:31 |
| gpc | persia: a one button mouse is like a pool cue without chalk | 00:32 |
| * persia has a zero-button pointing device | 00:32 | |
| * persia has a different 37-button pointing device | 00:32 | |
| * persia thinks button count is a matter of personal preference | 00:33 | |
| gpc | 37 buttons? | 00:33 |
| persia | Well, that one is a bit extreme, maybe :) | 00:33 |
| ubottu | In #ubuntu, ubuntu_ said: ubottu, am getting this error Its like this "Embedding is not possible. GRUB can only be installed in this setup by using blocklists. However, blocklists are UNRELIABLE and its use is discouraged.." | 01:01 |
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| Pici | ubottu: hug! | 01:21 |
| Pici | :( | 01:21 |
| gpc | !hug | 01:22 |
| gpc | hmm, shame :/ | 01:22 |
| persia | Didn't that get removed because of excessive use in some context? | 01:25 |
| gpc | probably | 01:26 |
| tsimpson | gpc: you won't get multiple "I'll remember that, ..." responses because of the (somewhat limited and hackish) flood protection in Encyclopedia | 02:05 |
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| bazhang | bantracker seems to have multiple entries for a guest account (removed for using an irc script in #ubuntu) | 06:01 |
| rww | indeed. The list of removals and the ban accurately reflect reality, afaict. | 06:13 |
| * rww expected ubottu PM, munches cookie instead | 06:13 | |
| maco | @mark Smrad #ubuntu f-bomb and n-word after being told off for first use of f-bomb | 07:28 |
| ubottu | The operation succeeded. | 07:28 |
| rww | @help mark | 07:28 |
| ubottu | (mark [<channel>] <nick|hostmask> [<comment>]) -- Creates an entry in the Bantracker as if <nick|hostmask> was kicked from <channel> with the comment <comment>, if <comment> is given it will be uses as the comment on the Bantracker, <channel> is only needed when send in /msg | 07:28 |
| maco | grrr | 07:29 |
| maco | @mark #ubuntu Smrad f-bomb and n-word after being told off for first use of f-bomb | 07:29 |
| ubottu | The operation succeeded. | 07:29 |
| rww | if you make that mistake in PM, it errors out instead ;) | 07:29 |
| * rww knows, because he does it /constantly/ | 07:30 | |
| tonyyarusso | You can avoid these problems by not marking things! | 07:33 |
| rww | . @mark #ubuntu-ops tonyyarusso encouraging newbie ops to be bad ops | 07:33 |
| tonyyarusso | hehe | 07:34 |
| bazhang | <r00t4rd3d> go in the ubuntu channel and tell someone how to set root pass and they will kick/ban you | 11:10 |
| bazhang | quelle surprise | 11:10 |
| jpds | Wunderbar. | 11:12 |
| bazhang | so using other channels to encourage users to troll #ubuntu ( ##linux in this case) | 11:13 |
| jpds | Haters gonna hate. | 11:14 |
| bazhang | hehe | 11:14 |
| ubottu | Gnea called the ops in #ubuntu (blakez is offtopic, abusive and generally not a nice person.) | 11:31 |
| q_a_z_steve | hey, just doing research for my freenode group, what code is ubottu based on? | 11:32 |
| ikonia | supybot | 11:33 |
| jpds | q_a_z_steve: Supybot. | 11:33 |
| jpds | q_a_z_steve: launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots | 11:34 |
| q_a_z_steve | strange, that link talks about their being more than one, and yet only talks about on on the page. Am I missing "page 2"? | 11:37 |
| jpds | The code is under 'Code'. | 11:38 |
| q_a_z_steve | jpds looking more for explanation of features like the bulleted list for ubottu, especially for meetingology, not needed for -br or fr... | 11:41 |
| q_a_z_steve | anything to add? jpds ? | 11:48 |
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| bazhang | JackyAlcine, hi | 12:21 |
| JackyAlcine | Good afternoon (UTC). | 12:22 |
| bazhang | JackyAlcine, thanks for joining. | 12:22 |
| JackyAlcine | No problem. | 12:22 |
| bazhang | JackyAlcine, enabling illegal acts is not something we allow in any ubuntu namespace | 12:22 |
| JackyAlcine | But we permit Aircrack-NG to be shipped in Ubuntu's repos. | 12:22 |
| bazhang | just as if someone wants to crack wifi, use an unsupported derivative, or what not, asking for help does not override the guidelines, and the various channel policies and rules | 12:23 |
| JackyAlcine | Hm. | 12:23 |
| bazhang | indeed, and if you visit #aircrack-ng (also on freenode) and ask "how can I crack my neighbor's wifi" you'll get booted | 12:24 |
| bazhang | its more than just Ubuntu namespace policy, but freenode wide | 12:24 |
| bazhang | piracy, cracking etc | 12:24 |
| JackyAlcine | Hm, so in that case, if you're going to something "illicit", better off searching on Google? | 12:25 |
| bazhang | indeed. or join a network that has no sane policies, unlike freenode. | 12:26 |
| JackyAlcine | Alright. | 12:26 |
| JackyAlcine | Have a good time, then. | 12:26 |
| bazhang | thanks | 12:26 |
| elky | hah | 12:26 |
| knome | erm | 12:27 |
| bazhang | bit surprised as he's in some team or another | 12:27 |
| knome | what is actually the reason aircrack-ng is allowed to be in the repos? | 12:27 |
| elky | it's valid diagnostic tool | 12:27 |
| bazhang | pen testing? | 12:27 |
| elky | yes | 12:28 |
| elky | the only diff between white-hat and black-hat is the intent. | 12:28 |
| knome | their website clearly states that it's a cracking tool before they mention it's a diagnostic tool | 12:28 |
| elky | So their marketing department needs to be fired. It is still a diagnostic tool. | 12:29 |
| knome | mm-hmm. just wondering what the info in the repository says.. if it says "a cracking tool", then i understand the point JA made | 12:30 |
| knome | mmh | 12:30 |
| bazhang | !info aircrack-ng | 12:30 |
| ubottu | aircrack-ng (source: aircrack-ng): wireless WEP/WPA cracking utilities. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.1-1 (maverick), package size 1541 kB, installed size 2776 kB | 12:30 |
| knome | yeah. | 12:31 |
| knome | maybe somebody needs to reconsider | 12:31 |
| bazhang | ? | 12:31 |
| bazhang | somebody being whom? | 12:31 |
| elky | would you believe to evaluate cracking vulnerabilities, you need to actually try crack stuff? | 12:31 |
| knome | bazhang, a motu? :) | 12:32 |
| elky | any network device has the same capacity | 12:32 |
| knome | elky, i understand, but it's still a bit awkward | 12:32 |
| elky | not really | 12:32 |
| bazhang | knome, perhaps you missed the whole context of this, vis a vis who was discussing this | 12:32 |
| bazhang | knome, he specifically said he was doing "phishy" "illegal acts" "I'd rather not say" "PM me for details" | 12:33 |
| bazhang | pcfreak30 in this instance | 12:33 |
| bazhang | nothing to reconsider. he was asking for help with illegal acts. | 12:34 |
| knome | bazhang, yeah, i missed that conversation :) - but anyway, was just wondering how the repositories so clearly states it's a cracking tool, and not for example, "diagnostic tool" | 12:34 |
| knome | i don't disagree about the decision | 12:35 |
| bazhang | knome, then you missed the reason for his response "but we have potentially can be illegally used tools in the repos, therefore we should offer assistance when people ask" | 12:35 |
| bazhang | for help with their self-confessed "illegal , phishy acts" | 12:36 |
| knome | bazhang, i got that ("But we permit Aircrack-NG to be shipped in Ubuntu's repos.") | 12:36 |
| knome | i don't think that's a completely solid argument | 12:36 |
| knome | but why does the package info say it's a cracking tool? | 12:36 |
| bazhang | he wanted help with something illegal. we dont support it. | 12:37 |
| knome | i understand and agree. | 12:37 |
| bazhang | so nothing to reconsider | 12:37 |
| knome | no, not about how he was handled. | 12:37 |
| knome | oh well, forget it... | 12:38 |
| knome | maybe we should edit the pkg info for x-chat to "this is a tool by which you can troll and annoy people to get eventually banned from the ubuntu channel" | 12:39 |
| jussi | q_a_z_steve: anything else you need? | 12:47 |
| jussi | q_a_z_steve: for furether information about the bots, please join #ubuntu-bots | 12:48 |
| tartarfoofas | please accdept | 13:54 |
| bazhang | tartarfoofas, pardon? | 13:55 |
| tartarfoofas | did you get the DCC | 13:55 |
| tartarfoofas | magnetron sputtering system? | 13:55 |
| bazhang | tartarfoofas, this is not the correct channel for that; did you need some Ubuntu help? | 13:56 |
| tartarfoofas | I will open ports and try again. thank you for your cooperation . | 13:57 |
| Pici | Its a forward. | 13:57 |
| bazhang | he's in #ubuntu | 13:57 |
| Pici | oh, perhaps its not. | 13:58 |
| rww | Pici, bazhang: it's a Hoober, more like. | 15:33 |
| Pici | rww: Same person? | 15:35 |
| bazhang | rww, sounds right | 15:36 |
| gpc | looks like his crazy style | 15:36 |
| rww | 2010-10-13.log:00:08:52 -!- Hoober [~chatzilla@pool-72-91-149-20.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-offtopic | 15:36 |
| rww | anyways, work time | 15:37 |
| maco | @mark #kubuntu BajK_ language on quit message | 15:57 |
| ubottu | The operation succeeded. | 15:57 |
| Pici | maco: We usually do banforwards to here in those cases. | 15:57 |
| Tm_T | ...which would neet the comment too | 15:58 |
| Tm_T | but ye, banforward | 15:58 |
| maco | ok i think i just set one | 16:00 |
| gpc | done 36894 | 16:01 |
| maco | huh? | 16:02 |
| maco | it was 36893... | 16:02 |
| gpc | oh I didn't see you set it on nick | 16:03 |
| gpc | i'll remove mine | 16:03 |
| maco | i set it so that if they didnt have teh _ at the end of the nick this time, itd still apply | 16:03 |
| gpc | ahh I didn't notice because you set it in #k :) | 16:04 |
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| IdleOne | Jordan_U: seems to have turned it off. If it happens again ban it. | 20:57 |
| Jordan_U | Why do people get insulted when I ask them to use full sentences, proper capitalization, and proper punctuation? | 21:38 |
| jpds | Jordan_U: Laziness. | 21:39 |
| IdleOne | Not everybody is a native English speaker, rederecting them to the channel of their native tongue would be better imo | 21:39 |
| jpds | I prefer my answer. | 21:39 |
| IdleOne | you would :P | 21:39 |
| rww | why so idle | 21:39 |
| jpds | rww: Idle Relay Chat, yeaaaaaaaaaaaah. | 21:40 |
| IdleOne | znc went offline | 21:40 |
| rww | switch to irssi it has 102% uptime | 21:40 |
| Jordan_U | IdleOne: I understand non-native speakers getting punctuation and sentence structure wrong, but some people obviously aren't even trying. | 21:40 |
| IdleOne | uptime with my znc is very good actually but my host needed to reboot | 21:40 |
| IdleOne | Jordan_U: I saw the question the asked and I also had a hard time understanding them. | 21:41 |
| IdleOne | they* | 21:41 |
| rww | to answer your question, #ubuntu is currently full of silly people. that's why. | 21:43 |
| jpds | s/#ubuntu/the world/ | 21:43 |
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| gpc | this one is growing on my | 21:44 |
| gpc | s/my/me | 21:44 |
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| Some_Person | Can anyone please delete a paste I made on paste.ubuntu.com? | 22:51 |
| Some_Person | I accidentally exposed important personal data | 22:52 |
| elky | we don't run it. canonical does. | 23:03 |
| Some_Person | So how can I get it removed ASAP | 23:08 |
| Some_Person | I exposed my password in a paste | 23:08 |
| Jordan_U | Some_Person: Change your password, wherever you use it. | 23:08 |
| Some_Person | I've used that password *everywhere* since 2006 | 23:09 |
| Jordan_U | Even if you manage to get the post removed you should *still* do that. | 23:09 |
| Some_Person | granted, it's encoded in the post, but still easily decodable | 23:09 |
| Jordan_U | Some_Person: If you are using this shared password for things which are important, like bank logins or your own remotely accessible machine, then change those (and don't ever use a shared password for such things in the future). | 23:11 |
| Some_Person | I'm using this password for both things you just mentioned | 23:12 |
| Jordan_U | I'm sorry I can't be of more help with getting the post removed, but you really need to consider the password already compromised if you use it for anything important. | 23:12 |
| Some_Person | Yes, I'm changing it now | 23:12 |
| Jordan_U | Some_Person: That is a terrible idea, you should not do that in any circumstance. | 23:12 |
| Some_Person | starting with the bank account | 23:12 |
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