/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/01/26/#ubuntu-ops.txt

damnsmalllinux23how do i become op?00:08
h00kdamnsmalllinux23: I don't believe there are any active calls for new Operators, but more information can be found on the wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/IrcTeam/OperatorRequirements00:10
damnsmalllinux23to h00k: can you give me op? if you right click on my name and go to mode then give half or give op. and why does everyone have yellow dots?00:12
h00kdamnsmalllinux23: no, it doesn't work that way. And the dots colors depend on the client you use.00:13
damnsmalllinux23like...00:13
h00klike I use irssi, so I don't see yellow dots by people.00:14
damnsmalllinux23hey are you are ubuntu?00:14
h00kdamnsmalllinux23: perhaps you should check the documentation on whatever client you're using00:14
h00kdamnsmalllinux23: yes?00:14
persiaThe yellow dots probably represent voice, rather than op.00:14
damnsmalllinux23well can you do the share desktop thing to my computer?00:15
h00kdamnsmalllinux23: For what purpose? In theory, I could. I don't want to, however.00:17
damnsmalllinux23can you please? i need you to help me with something so that you can see my cp as i do it.00:18
h00kdamnsmalllinux23: no, this isn't a support related room. Do you have any other questions about the OP process? If not, please feel free to /part the channel00:19
* h00k shrugs00:19
gpch00k: see !canibeanop00:20
h00kgpc: *that* is what it is. I always forget that one00:20
PiciFeel free to add a better alias.00:20
gpcPici: would be hard to find better less "ugly" alias to that00:21
h00kperhaps !opme or something00:22
h00k!opprocess00:22
Pici!helphelpimbeingoppressed00:22
gpchaha00:22
* persia hands Pici some repression as a side dish00:22
h00kyeah...I considered that after :)00:22
gpc!canihaveops00:25
h00kan African Swallow?00:25
gpc!canihaveops is <alias> canibeanop00:26
ubottuI'll remember that, gpc00:26
gpc!canihaveop is <alias> canibeanop00:27
gpcfine don't00:27
* gpc :P and :(00:27
h00kd'aw00:27
* h00k pats gpc on the back00:27
gpch00k: can you right click on my name and give me op or half op :P00:28
* persia points out that not all clients have such "right-click" functionality.00:28
gpcpersia: then such clients are not full clients :)00:30
h00kwhen I right click, I get terminal options :) (irssi)00:31
gpclike building a car without seat belts00:31
* persia stoutly defends irssi00:31
gpc!canihaveop is <alias> canibeanop00:31
persiagpc, Note that not all mice have right buttons (and not all pointing devices have buttons at all)00:31
gpcwhy do I not get a response?00:31
gpcpersia: a one button mouse is like a pool cue without chalk00:32
* persia has a zero-button pointing device00:32
* persia has a different 37-button pointing device00:32
* persia thinks button count is a matter of personal preference00:33
gpc37 buttons?00:33
persiaWell, that one is a bit extreme, maybe :)00:33
ubottuIn #ubuntu, ubuntu_ said: ubottu, am getting this error  Its like this "Embedding is not possible.  GRUB can only be installed in this setup by using blocklists.  However, blocklists are UNRELIABLE and its use is discouraged.."01:01
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Piciubottu: hug!01:21
Pici:(01:21
gpc!hug01:22
gpchmm, shame :/01:22
persiaDidn't that get removed because of excessive use in some context?01:25
gpcprobably01:26
tsimpsongpc: you won't get multiple "I'll remember that, ..." responses because of the (somewhat limited and hackish) flood protection in Encyclopedia02:05
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bazhangbantracker seems to have multiple entries for a guest account (removed for using an irc script in #ubuntu)06:01
rwwindeed. The list of removals and the ban accurately reflect reality, afaict.06:13
* rww expected ubottu PM, munches cookie instead06:13
maco@mark Smrad #ubuntu f-bomb and n-word after being told off for first use of f-bomb07:28
ubottuThe operation succeeded.07:28
rww@help mark07:28
ubottu(mark [<channel>] <nick|hostmask> [<comment>]) -- Creates an entry in the Bantracker as if <nick|hostmask> was kicked from <channel> with the comment <comment>, if <comment> is given it will be uses as the comment on the Bantracker, <channel> is only needed when send in /msg07:28
macogrrr07:29
maco@mark #ubuntu Smrad f-bomb and n-word after being told off for first use of f-bomb07:29
ubottuThe operation succeeded.07:29
rwwif you make that mistake in PM, it errors out instead ;)07:29
* rww knows, because he does it /constantly/07:30
tonyyarussoYou can avoid these problems by not marking things!07:33
rww. @mark #ubuntu-ops tonyyarusso encouraging newbie ops to be bad ops07:33
tonyyarussohehe07:34
bazhang<r00t4rd3d> go in the ubuntu channel and tell someone how to set root pass and they will kick/ban you11:10
bazhangquelle surprise11:10
jpdsWunderbar.11:12
bazhangso using other channels to encourage users to troll #ubuntu  ( ##linux in this case)11:13
jpdsHaters gonna hate.11:14
bazhanghehe11:14
ubottuGnea called the ops in #ubuntu (blakez is offtopic, abusive and generally not a nice person.)11:31
q_a_z_stevehey, just doing research for my freenode group, what code is ubottu based on?11:32
ikoniasupybot11:33
jpdsq_a_z_steve: Supybot.11:33
jpdsq_a_z_steve: launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots11:34
q_a_z_stevestrange, that link talks about their being more than one, and yet only talks about on on the page. Am I missing "page 2"?11:37
jpdsThe code is under 'Code'.11:38
q_a_z_stevejpds looking more for explanation of features like the bulleted list for ubottu, especially for meetingology, not needed for -br or fr...11:41
q_a_z_steveanything to add? jpds ?11:48
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bazhangJackyAlcine, hi12:21
JackyAlcineGood afternoon (UTC).12:22
bazhangJackyAlcine, thanks for joining.12:22
JackyAlcineNo problem.12:22
bazhangJackyAlcine, enabling illegal acts is not something we allow in any ubuntu namespace12:22
JackyAlcineBut we permit Aircrack-NG to be shipped in Ubuntu's repos.12:22
bazhangjust as if someone wants to crack wifi, use an unsupported derivative, or what not, asking for help does not override the guidelines, and the various channel policies and rules12:23
JackyAlcineHm.12:23
bazhangindeed, and if you visit #aircrack-ng (also on freenode) and ask "how can I crack my neighbor's wifi" you'll get booted12:24
bazhangits more than just Ubuntu namespace policy, but freenode wide12:24
bazhangpiracy, cracking etc12:24
JackyAlcineHm, so in that case, if you're going to something "illicit", better off searching on Google?12:25
bazhangindeed. or join a network that has no sane policies, unlike freenode.12:26
JackyAlcineAlright.12:26
JackyAlcineHave a good time, then.12:26
bazhangthanks12:26
elkyhah12:26
knomeerm12:27
bazhangbit surprised as he's in some team or another12:27
knomewhat is actually the reason aircrack-ng is allowed to be in the repos?12:27
elkyit's  valid diagnostic tool12:27
bazhangpen testing?12:27
elkyyes12:28
elkythe only diff between white-hat and black-hat is the intent.12:28
knometheir website clearly states that it's a cracking tool before they mention it's a diagnostic tool12:28
elkySo their marketing department needs to be fired. It is still a diagnostic tool.12:29
knomemm-hmm. just wondering what the info in the repository says.. if it says "a cracking tool", then i understand the point JA made12:30
knomemmh12:30
bazhang!info aircrack-ng12:30
ubottuaircrack-ng (source: aircrack-ng): wireless WEP/WPA cracking utilities. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.1-1 (maverick), package size 1541 kB, installed size 2776 kB12:30
knomeyeah.12:31
knomemaybe somebody needs to reconsider12:31
bazhang?12:31
bazhangsomebody being whom?12:31
elkywould you believe to evaluate cracking vulnerabilities, you need to actually try crack stuff?12:31
knomebazhang, a motu? :)12:32
elkyany network device has the same capacity12:32
knomeelky, i understand, but it's still a bit awkward12:32
elkynot really12:32
bazhangknome, perhaps you missed the whole context of this, vis a vis who was discussing this12:32
bazhangknome, he specifically said he was doing "phishy" "illegal acts" "I'd rather not say" "PM me for details"12:33
bazhangpcfreak30 in this instance12:33
bazhangnothing to reconsider. he was asking for help with illegal acts.12:34
knomebazhang, yeah, i missed that conversation :) - but anyway, was just wondering how the repositories so clearly states it's a cracking tool, and not for example, "diagnostic tool"12:34
knomei don't disagree about the decision12:35
bazhangknome, then you missed the reason for his response "but we have potentially can be illegally used tools in the repos, therefore we should offer assistance when people ask"12:35
bazhangfor help with their self-confessed "illegal , phishy acts"12:36
knomebazhang, i got that ("But we permit Aircrack-NG to be shipped in Ubuntu's repos.")12:36
knomei don't think that's a completely solid argument12:36
knomebut why does the package info say it's a cracking tool?12:36
bazhanghe wanted help with something illegal. we dont support it.12:37
knomei understand and agree.12:37
bazhangso nothing to reconsider12:37
knomeno, not about how he was handled.12:37
knomeoh well, forget it...12:38
knomemaybe we should edit the pkg info for x-chat to "this is a tool by which you can troll and annoy people to get eventually banned from the ubuntu channel"12:39
jussiq_a_z_steve: anything else you need?12:47
jussiq_a_z_steve: for furether information about the bots, please join #ubuntu-bots12:48
tartarfoofasplease accdept13:54
bazhangtartarfoofas, pardon?13:55
tartarfoofasdid you get the DCC13:55
tartarfoofasmagnetron sputtering system?13:55
bazhangtartarfoofas, this is not the correct channel for that; did you need some Ubuntu help?13:56
tartarfoofasI will open ports and try again. thank you for your cooperation .13:57
PiciIts a forward.13:57
bazhanghe's in #ubuntu13:57
Picioh, perhaps its not.13:58
rwwPici, bazhang: it's a Hoober, more like.15:33
Picirww: Same person?15:35
bazhangrww, sounds right15:36
gpclooks like his crazy style15:36
rww2010-10-13.log:00:08:52 -!- Hoober [~chatzilla@pool-72-91-149-20.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-offtopic15:36
rwwanyways, work time15:37
maco@mark #kubuntu BajK_ language on quit message15:57
ubottuThe operation succeeded.15:57
Picimaco: We usually do banforwards to here in those cases.15:57
Tm_T...which would neet the comment too15:58
Tm_Tbut ye, banforward15:58
macook i think i just set one16:00
gpcdone 3689416:01
macohuh?16:02
macoit was 36893...16:02
gpcoh I didn't see you set it on nick16:03
gpci'll remove mine16:03
macoi set it so that if they didnt have teh _ at the end of the nick this time, itd still apply16:03
gpcahh I didn't notice because you set it in #k :)16:04
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IdleOneJordan_U: seems to have turned it off. If it happens again ban it.20:57
Jordan_UWhy do people get insulted when I ask them to use full sentences, proper capitalization, and proper punctuation?21:38
jpdsJordan_U: Laziness.21:39
IdleOneNot everybody is a native English speaker, rederecting them to the channel of their native tongue would be better imo21:39
jpdsI prefer my answer.21:39
IdleOneyou would :P21:39
rwwwhy so idle21:39
jpdsrww: Idle Relay Chat, yeaaaaaaaaaaaah.21:40
IdleOneznc went offline21:40
rwwswitch to irssi it has 102% uptime21:40
Jordan_UIdleOne: I understand non-native speakers getting punctuation and sentence structure wrong, but some people obviously aren't even trying.21:40
IdleOneuptime with my znc is very good actually but my host needed to reboot21:40
IdleOneJordan_U: I saw the question the asked and I also had a hard time understanding them.21:41
IdleOnethey*21:41
rwwto answer your question, #ubuntu is currently full of silly people. that's why.21:43
jpdss/#ubuntu/the world/21:43
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gpcthis one is growing on my21:44
gpcs/my/me21:44
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Some_PersonCan anyone please delete a paste I made on paste.ubuntu.com?22:51
Some_PersonI accidentally exposed important personal data22:52
elkywe don't run it. canonical does.23:03
Some_PersonSo how can I get it removed ASAP23:08
Some_PersonI exposed my password in a paste23:08
Jordan_USome_Person: Change your password, wherever you use it.23:08
Some_PersonI've used that password *everywhere* since 200623:09
Jordan_UEven if you manage to get the post removed you should *still* do that.23:09
Some_Persongranted, it's encoded in the post, but still easily decodable23:09
Jordan_USome_Person: If you are using this shared password for things which are important, like bank logins or your own remotely accessible machine, then change those (and don't ever use a shared password for such things in the future).23:11
Some_PersonI'm using this password for both things you just mentioned23:12
Jordan_UI'm sorry I can't be of more help with getting the post removed, but you really need to consider the password already compromised if you use it for anything important.23:12
Some_PersonYes, I'm changing it now23:12
Jordan_USome_Person: That is a terrible idea, you should not do that in any circumstance.23:12
Some_Personstarting with the bank account23:12

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