[00:08] <damnsmalllinux23> how do i become op?
[00:10] <h00k> damnsmalllinux23: I don't believe there are any active calls for new Operators, but more information can be found on the wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/IrcTeam/OperatorRequirements
[00:12] <damnsmalllinux23> to h00k: can you give me op? if you right click on my name and go to mode then give half or give op. and why does everyone have yellow dots?
[00:13] <h00k> damnsmalllinux23: no, it doesn't work that way. And the dots colors depend on the client you use.
[00:13] <damnsmalllinux23> like...
[00:14] <h00k> like I use irssi, so I don't see yellow dots by people.
[00:14] <damnsmalllinux23> hey are you are ubuntu?
[00:14] <h00k> damnsmalllinux23: perhaps you should check the documentation on whatever client you're using
[00:14] <h00k> damnsmalllinux23: yes?
[00:14] <persia> The yellow dots probably represent voice, rather than op.
[00:15] <damnsmalllinux23> well can you do the share desktop thing to my computer?
[00:17] <h00k> damnsmalllinux23: For what purpose? In theory, I could. I don't want to, however.
[00:18] <damnsmalllinux23> can you please? i need you to help me with something so that you can see my cp as i do it.
[00:19] <h00k> damnsmalllinux23: no, this isn't a support related room. Do you have any other questions about the OP process? If not, please feel free to /part the channel
[00:19]  * h00k shrugs
[00:20] <gpc> h00k: see !canibeanop
[00:20] <h00k> gpc: *that* is what it is. I always forget that one
[00:20] <Pici> Feel free to add a better alias.
[00:21] <gpc> Pici: would be hard to find better less "ugly" alias to that
[00:22] <h00k> perhaps !opme or something
[00:22] <h00k> !opprocess
[00:22] <Pici> !helphelpimbeingoppressed
[00:22] <gpc> haha
[00:22]  * persia hands Pici some repression as a side dish
[00:22] <h00k> yeah...I considered that after :)
[00:25] <gpc> !canihaveops
[00:25] <h00k> an African Swallow?
[00:26] <gpc> !canihaveops is <alias> canibeanop
[00:27] <gpc> !canihaveop is <alias> canibeanop
[00:27] <gpc> fine don't
[00:27]  * gpc :P and :(
[00:27] <h00k> d'aw
[00:27]  * h00k pats gpc on the back
[00:28] <gpc> h00k: can you right click on my name and give me op or half op :P
[00:28]  * persia points out that not all clients have such "right-click" functionality.
[00:30] <gpc> persia: then such clients are not full clients :)
[00:31] <h00k> when I right click, I get terminal options :) (irssi)
[00:31] <gpc> like building a car without seat belts
[00:31]  * persia stoutly defends irssi
[00:31] <gpc> !canihaveop is <alias> canibeanop
[00:31] <persia> gpc, Note that not all mice have right buttons (and not all pointing devices have buttons at all)
[00:31] <gpc> why do I not get a response?
[00:32] <gpc> persia: a one button mouse is like a pool cue without chalk
[00:32]  * persia has a zero-button pointing device
[00:32]  * persia has a different 37-button pointing device
[00:33]  * persia thinks button count is a matter of personal preference
[00:33] <gpc> 37 buttons?
[00:33] <persia> Well, that one is a bit extreme, maybe :)
[01:21] <Pici> ubottu: hug!
[01:21] <Pici> :(
[01:22] <gpc> !hug
[01:22] <gpc> hmm, shame :/
[01:25] <persia> Didn't that get removed because of excessive use in some context?
[01:26] <gpc> probably
[02:05] <tsimpson> gpc: you won't get multiple "I'll remember that, ..." responses because of the (somewhat limited and hackish) flood protection in Encyclopedia
[06:01] <bazhang> bantracker seems to have multiple entries for a guest account (removed for using an irc script in #ubuntu)
[06:13] <rww> indeed. The list of removals and the ban accurately reflect reality, afaict.
[06:13]  * rww expected ubottu PM, munches cookie instead
[07:28] <maco> @mark Smrad #ubuntu f-bomb and n-word after being told off for first use of f-bomb
[07:28] <rww> @help mark
[07:29] <maco> grrr
[07:29] <maco> @mark #ubuntu Smrad f-bomb and n-word after being told off for first use of f-bomb
[07:29] <rww> if you make that mistake in PM, it errors out instead ;)
[07:30]  * rww knows, because he does it /constantly/
[07:33] <tonyyarusso> You can avoid these problems by not marking things!
[07:33] <rww> . @mark #ubuntu-ops tonyyarusso encouraging newbie ops to be bad ops
[07:34] <tonyyarusso> hehe
 go in the ubuntu channel and tell someone how to set root pass and they will kick/ban you
[11:10] <bazhang> quelle surprise
[11:12] <jpds> Wunderbar.
[11:13] <bazhang> so using other channels to encourage users to troll #ubuntu  ( ##linux in this case)
[11:14] <jpds> Haters gonna hate.
[11:14] <bazhang> hehe
[11:32] <q_a_z_steve> hey, just doing research for my freenode group, what code is ubottu based on?
[11:33] <ikonia> supybot
[11:33] <jpds> q_a_z_steve: Supybot.
[11:34] <jpds> q_a_z_steve: launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots
[11:37] <q_a_z_steve> strange, that link talks about their being more than one, and yet only talks about on on the page. Am I missing "page 2"?
[11:38] <jpds> The code is under 'Code'.
[11:41] <q_a_z_steve> jpds looking more for explanation of features like the bulleted list for ubottu, especially for meetingology, not needed for -br or fr...
[11:48] <q_a_z_steve> anything to add? jpds ?
[12:21] <bazhang> JackyAlcine, hi
[12:22] <JackyAlcine> Good afternoon (UTC).
[12:22] <bazhang> JackyAlcine, thanks for joining.
[12:22] <JackyAlcine> No problem.
[12:22] <bazhang> JackyAlcine, enabling illegal acts is not something we allow in any ubuntu namespace
[12:22] <JackyAlcine> But we permit Aircrack-NG to be shipped in Ubuntu's repos.
[12:23] <bazhang> just as if someone wants to crack wifi, use an unsupported derivative, or what not, asking for help does not override the guidelines, and the various channel policies and rules
[12:23] <JackyAlcine> Hm.
[12:24] <bazhang> indeed, and if you visit #aircrack-ng (also on freenode) and ask "how can I crack my neighbor's wifi" you'll get booted
[12:24] <bazhang> its more than just Ubuntu namespace policy, but freenode wide
[12:24] <bazhang> piracy, cracking etc
[12:25] <JackyAlcine> Hm, so in that case, if you're going to something "illicit", better off searching on Google?
[12:26] <bazhang> indeed. or join a network that has no sane policies, unlike freenode.
[12:26] <JackyAlcine> Alright.
[12:26] <JackyAlcine> Have a good time, then.
[12:26] <bazhang> thanks
[12:26] <elky> hah
[12:27] <knome> erm
[12:27] <bazhang> bit surprised as he's in some team or another
[12:27] <knome> what is actually the reason aircrack-ng is allowed to be in the repos?
[12:27] <elky> it's  valid diagnostic tool
[12:27] <bazhang> pen testing?
[12:28] <elky> yes
[12:28] <elky> the only diff between white-hat and black-hat is the intent.
[12:28] <knome> their website clearly states that it's a cracking tool before they mention it's a diagnostic tool
[12:29] <elky> So their marketing department needs to be fired. It is still a diagnostic tool.
[12:30] <knome> mm-hmm. just wondering what the info in the repository says.. if it says "a cracking tool", then i understand the point JA made
[12:30] <knome> mmh
[12:30] <bazhang> !info aircrack-ng
[12:31] <knome> yeah.
[12:31] <knome> maybe somebody needs to reconsider
[12:31] <bazhang> ?
[12:31] <bazhang> somebody being whom?
[12:31] <elky> would you believe to evaluate cracking vulnerabilities, you need to actually try crack stuff?
[12:32] <knome> bazhang, a motu? :)
[12:32] <elky> any network device has the same capacity
[12:32] <knome> elky, i understand, but it's still a bit awkward
[12:32] <elky> not really
[12:32] <bazhang> knome, perhaps you missed the whole context of this, vis a vis who was discussing this
[12:33] <bazhang> knome, he specifically said he was doing "phishy" "illegal acts" "I'd rather not say" "PM me for details"
[12:33] <bazhang> pcfreak30 in this instance
[12:34] <bazhang> nothing to reconsider. he was asking for help with illegal acts.
[12:34] <knome> bazhang, yeah, i missed that conversation :) - but anyway, was just wondering how the repositories so clearly states it's a cracking tool, and not for example, "diagnostic tool"
[12:35] <knome> i don't disagree about the decision
[12:35] <bazhang> knome, then you missed the reason for his response "but we have potentially can be illegally used tools in the repos, therefore we should offer assistance when people ask"
[12:36] <bazhang> for help with their self-confessed "illegal , phishy acts"
[12:36] <knome> bazhang, i got that ("But we permit Aircrack-NG to be shipped in Ubuntu's repos.")
[12:36] <knome> i don't think that's a completely solid argument
[12:36] <knome> but why does the package info say it's a cracking tool?
[12:37] <bazhang> he wanted help with something illegal. we dont support it.
[12:37] <knome> i understand and agree.
[12:37] <bazhang> so nothing to reconsider
[12:37] <knome> no, not about how he was handled.
[12:38] <knome> oh well, forget it...
[12:39] <knome> maybe we should edit the pkg info for x-chat to "this is a tool by which you can troll and annoy people to get eventually banned from the ubuntu channel"
[12:47] <jussi> q_a_z_steve: anything else you need?
[12:48] <jussi> q_a_z_steve: for furether information about the bots, please join #ubuntu-bots
[13:54] <tartarfoofas> please accdept
[13:55] <bazhang> tartarfoofas, pardon?
[13:55] <tartarfoofas> did you get the DCC
[13:55] <tartarfoofas> magnetron sputtering system?
[13:56] <bazhang> tartarfoofas, this is not the correct channel for that; did you need some Ubuntu help?
[13:57] <tartarfoofas> I will open ports and try again. thank you for your cooperation .
[13:57] <Pici> Its a forward.
[13:57] <bazhang> he's in #ubuntu
[13:58] <Pici> oh, perhaps its not.
[15:33] <rww> Pici, bazhang: it's a Hoober, more like.
[15:35] <Pici> rww: Same person?
[15:36] <bazhang> rww, sounds right
[15:36] <gpc> looks like his crazy style
[15:36] <rww> 2010-10-13.log:00:08:52 -!- Hoober [~chatzilla@pool-72-91-149-20.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:37] <rww> anyways, work time
[15:57] <maco> @mark #kubuntu BajK_ language on quit message
[15:57] <Pici> maco: We usually do banforwards to here in those cases.
[15:58] <Tm_T> ...which would neet the comment too
[15:58] <Tm_T> but ye, banforward
[16:00] <maco> ok i think i just set one
[16:01] <gpc> done 36894
[16:02] <maco> huh?
[16:02] <maco> it was 36893...
[16:03] <gpc> oh I didn't see you set it on nick
[16:03] <gpc> i'll remove mine
[16:03] <maco> i set it so that if they didnt have teh _ at the end of the nick this time, itd still apply
[16:04] <gpc> ahh I didn't notice because you set it in #k :)
[20:57] <IdleOne> Jordan_U: seems to have turned it off. If it happens again ban it.
[21:38] <Jordan_U> Why do people get insulted when I ask them to use full sentences, proper capitalization, and proper punctuation?
[21:39] <jpds> Jordan_U: Laziness.
[21:39] <IdleOne> Not everybody is a native English speaker, rederecting them to the channel of their native tongue would be better imo
[21:39] <jpds> I prefer my answer.
[21:39] <IdleOne> you would :P
[21:39] <rww> why so idle
[21:40] <jpds> rww: Idle Relay Chat, yeaaaaaaaaaaaah.
[21:40] <IdleOne> znc went offline
[21:40] <rww> switch to irssi it has 102% uptime
[21:40] <Jordan_U> IdleOne: I understand non-native speakers getting punctuation and sentence structure wrong, but some people obviously aren't even trying.
[21:40] <IdleOne> uptime with my znc is very good actually but my host needed to reboot
[21:41] <IdleOne> Jordan_U: I saw the question the asked and I also had a hard time understanding them.
[21:41] <IdleOne> they*
[21:43] <rww> to answer your question, #ubuntu is currently full of silly people. that's why.
[21:43] <jpds> s/#ubuntu/the world/
[21:44] <gpc> this one is growing on my
[21:44] <gpc> s/my/me
[22:51] <Some_Person> Can anyone please delete a paste I made on paste.ubuntu.com?
[22:52] <Some_Person> I accidentally exposed important personal data
[23:03] <elky> we don't run it. canonical does.
[23:08] <Some_Person> So how can I get it removed ASAP
[23:08] <Some_Person> I exposed my password in a paste
[23:08] <Jordan_U> Some_Person: Change your password, wherever you use it.
[23:09] <Some_Person> I've used that password *everywhere* since 2006
[23:09] <Jordan_U> Even if you manage to get the post removed you should *still* do that.
[23:09] <Some_Person> granted, it's encoded in the post, but still easily decodable
[23:11] <Jordan_U> Some_Person: If you are using this shared password for things which are important, like bank logins or your own remotely accessible machine, then change those (and don't ever use a shared password for such things in the future).
[23:12] <Some_Person> I'm using this password for both things you just mentioned
[23:12] <Jordan_U> I'm sorry I can't be of more help with getting the post removed, but you really need to consider the password already compromised if you use it for anything important.
[23:12] <Some_Person> Yes, I'm changing it now
[23:12] <Jordan_U> Some_Person: That is a terrible idea, you should not do that in any circumstance.
[23:12] <Some_Person> starting with the bank account