| kdub | 1) anyone mind if i use that california loco pic with the bear in a flier for SD contingent, and 2) is there a svg of that around? :) | 05:04 |
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| pleia2 | please do, let me dig up the svg | 05:10 |
| pleia2 | ok, you can open it up in inkscape and grab it from here: http://people.ubuntu.com/~lyz/ubuntucalifornia.svg a black and white version is here: http://neal.bussett.com/ubuntu/ubuntu-california-logo-bw.svg | 05:12 |
| pleia2 | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects/Logo | 05:13 |
| pleia2 | ah, here we go: http://www.nhaines.com/ubuntu/california/logo/ubuntu-california_logo.svg | 05:13 |
| kdub | alright, thanks pleia2! | 05:13 |
| pleia2 | sure :) | 05:14 |
| * kdub puts feeble gimp skills to use | 05:14 | |
| pleia2 | might want to use inkscape | 05:14 |
| pleia2 | it's vector-based so it's much better at handling the svgs than gimp, makes them very clean | 05:14 |
| kdub | thats true | 05:23 |
| rob__ | hello... inquiry for Linux support... anyone avail??? | 05:25 |
| pleia2 | welcome rob__ | 05:25 |
| rob__ | hello | 05:25 |
| rob__ | many thanks... happy to be here.. | 05:25 |
| rob__ | might you have some time for linux support assistance? | 05:26 |
| rob__ | my question is a bit technical | 05:26 |
| rob__ | it involves boot loading | 05:26 |
| pleia2 | you're welcome to ask :) | 05:26 |
| rob__ | okay... well, I'm attempting to install grub 2 within windows MBR... due to the fact that I do not have any other means of installing Linux through common means such as a bootable ISo | 05:27 |
| rob__ | or mounting an iso image onto a flash drive | 05:27 |
| pleia2 | install grub2 from windows? | 05:28 |
| kdub | sounds like bad news bears | 05:28 |
| pleia2 | I know about linux, but with windows I'm completely useless :\ | 05:28 |
| rob__ | hmm.. okay well then here's maybe how you could help me | 05:28 |
| kdub | rob__: is there a reason you need it that way? chain loading windows bootloader from grub is usually the way to go | 05:28 |
| rob__ | well the reason for attempting to upload linux this way... is due to the fact that I don't have an optical drive working and i don't have a usb stick avaiable to mount a bootable iso of linux | 05:29 |
| rob__ | my optical drive isn't responding in windows | 05:30 |
| pleia2 | well, getting grub installed is only half the battle, you still need to install linux itself somehow | 05:30 |
| rob__ | well i've been reading up on it | 05:30 |
| rob__ | apparently.. in order to install linux.. you need to install the kernal itself.. and a minimal root directory of file systems... it's actually called the "ram disk" | 05:31 |
| rob__ | i did it once with gurb legacy | 05:31 |
| rob__ | like when it was menu.lst ... | 05:31 |
| pleia2 | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromWindows appears to use the ramdisk method | 05:32 |
| rob__ | a-ha... yes... exactly | 05:33 |
| rob__ | you are quick with the forums lo | 05:33 |
| rob__ | lol &* | 05:33 |
| rob__ | lol * | 05:33 |
| rob__ | sorry can't type 2day | 05:33 |
| akk | pleia2 is quick in general. :) | 05:33 |
| pleia2 | I try :) | 05:34 |
| rob__ | hehe | 05:34 |
| rob__ | hmm.. this is a very viable tutorial... | 05:36 |
| rob__ | the only thing that's throwing me here.. is that menu.lst file... | 05:36 |
| rob__ | it' | 05:36 |
| rob__ | it's actually the older method... Grub Legacy... the new Linux distributions actually use grub.cft or Grub2 loader | 05:37 |
| rob__ | cgf* | 05:37 |
| pleia2 | it wouldn't hurt to install grub legacy | 05:37 |
| pleia2 | it still works fine | 05:37 |
| rob__ | ahh okay... | 05:37 |
| rob__ | okay okay... outstanding... that's what I was worried about | 05:38 |
| pleia2 | I think I've only got one system with grub2 actually | 05:38 |
| rob__ | well apparently grub 2 is a much much more efficient means of booting linux and other operating systems... | 05:38 |
| rob__ | you can actually boot live cd's now from the boot menu for instance.. and like you can actually use terminal scripting within the bootloader itsefl | 05:39 |
| akk | I still use grub1 -- it works a lot better if you have multiple linux distros. | 05:39 |
| pleia2 | grub2 does have some cool features, but they certainly aren't required, grub legacy has worked fine for years :) | 05:39 |
| rob__ | hmm... very true | 05:40 |
| rob__ | you are the most insightful linux irc'ers that I've run into yet | 05:40 |
| rob__ | :P | 05:40 |
| * pleia2 tips her hat | 05:40 | |
| pleia2 | so are you local? we have events too! http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-california | 05:41 |
| rob__ | ohh i wish i was local... i would love to move out to Cali... | 05:43 |
| rob__ | I tried my locazlied channel | 05:43 |
| pleia2 | oh! pa? | 05:43 |
| rob__ | but no one was avail... | 05:43 |
| rob__ | yes ! | 05:44 |
| rob__ | pennsylvania | 05:44 |
| pleia2 | just didn't wait long enough, there are some people around :) | 05:44 |
| pleia2 | I just moved here from philly, I still hang out in their channel | 05:44 |
| pleia2 | "just" - meaning 11 months ago | 05:44 |
| rob__ | are u familiar with PA ? | 05:44 |
| rob__ | ohhh no way how kool | 05:44 |
| rob__ | i've been to philly many times.. it's an amazing city | 05:44 |
| pleia2 | I actually lived in the suburbs, but I was downtown pretty often | 05:45 |
| * kdub has heard its always sunny there as well | 05:45 | |
| pleia2 | lol | 05:45 |
| pleia2 | if only | 05:46 |
| rob__ | LO | 05:46 |
| rob__ | LOL * | 05:46 |
| rob__ | i love that show | 05:46 |
| rob__ | i live in just west of Harrisburg | 05:46 |
| pleia2 | cool, I spoke at the central pennsylvania open source conference in 2009 | 05:46 |
| pleia2 | in harrisburg | 05:46 |
| pleia2 | cute city | 05:47 |
| rob__ | open source conference??? that is just epic win right there | 05:48 |
| pleia2 | cposc.org | 05:48 |
| pleia2 | they have it every year :) | 05:48 |
| rob__ | you seem to be very inuitively involved within the open source community | 05:48 |
| pleia2 | it's a small conference, but a lot of fun | 05:48 |
| rob__ | see i've just now become involved with Linux open source about a few months ago | 05:48 |
| rob__ | i figure.. Linux in many ways is the absolute best and most stable and advanced movement of operating systems distribution to date | 05:49 |
| pleia2 | that's certainly how I feel | 05:50 |
| rob__ | i've uploaded a few systems so far.. but this is my first real snag | 05:50 |
| pleia2 | well I hope you're able to get your install sorted :) | 05:51 |
| rob__ | i will most definitely check out and probably attend the next open source converence | 05:51 |
| pleia2 | cool | 05:51 |
| pleia2 | might also want to check out cplug.net | 05:51 |
| pleia2 | Central Pennsylvania Linux User Group | 05:52 |
| rob__ | fascinating... :P | 05:52 |
| rob__ | so you attended the community college in downtown harrisburg then I'm assuming last year? | 05:53 |
| pleia2 | well, the one in 2009 | 05:54 |
| rob__ | i'm actually gonna be attending that college most likely son | 05:54 |
| rob__ | soon * | 05:54 |
| pleia2 | in 2010 I was just missing all my pennsylvania friends who got to go to the conference :) | 05:54 |
| pleia2 | it was a nice venue, don't know much about the school itself though | 05:55 |
| rob__ | it's actually a really nice campus for only being a community school base | 05:55 |
| pleia2 | yeah, I was impressed | 05:55 |
| rob__ | looks like they don't have a 2011 conference listed yet | 05:55 |
| pleia2 | nope, it's not until the fall so it'll probably be a while | 05:56 |
| rob__ | you are like mad quick with those links | 05:57 |
| pleia2 | familiarity helps :) | 05:58 |
| rob__ | w/ out a doubt haha | 05:59 |
| rob__ | what is you opinion about Debian v.s. ubuntu which is of course it's derivative developed distribution | 06:00 |
| rob__ | and I hope I'm not taking up 2 much of your time lol | 06:00 |
| pleia2 | don't tell anyone, I have more debian systems than ubuntu ;) | 06:00 |
| rob__ | hahahah.... (your secret's safe w/ me haha ) | 06:01 |
| pleia2 | and at work all our servers are debian. the franklin institute is one of our clients, their website is on debian | 06:01 |
| pleia2 | for the desktop (and absolutely laptops) I prefer ubuntu though | 06:01 |
| rob__ | ubuntu seems to me... to be a release that has more GUI based utilities and command capabilities... | 06:02 |
| rob__ | and is more terminal friendly... | 06:02 |
| rob__ | but debian has a bigger repository of applications... ( am I close w/ the terminology? ) | 06:02 |
| pleia2 | I run a couple ubuntu servers, it does fine | 06:02 |
| akk | Is debian's repository bigger? I thought ubuntu's was (because it has non-free stuff). | 06:03 |
| pleia2 | I was just trying to look up some statistics | 06:03 |
| rob__ | well.. that's what I thought too.. but I researched it... | 06:03 |
| akk | Ubuntu is less terminal friendly but more GUI friendly | 06:03 |
| akk | and has a much faster release schedule, so it's easier to stay current but still have stuff that works. | 06:04 |
| rob__ | yea every 6 months for debian | 06:04 |
| rob__ | i mean i mean | 06:04 |
| rob__ | ubuntu.. ** | 06:04 |
| rob__ | my bad | 06:04 |
| pleia2 | yeah, debian is closer to every 2 years :) | 06:07 |
| pleia2 | anyway, time for me to call it a night here | 06:08 |
| pleia2 | take care rob__ | 06:08 |
| rob__ | hmm.. alright well, are u usually in here? | 06:08 |
| pleia2 | yep, and in #ubuntu-us-pa too | 06:08 |
| pleia2 | so feel free to join them, they don't bite :) | 06:08 |
| rob__ | hmm... alrighty... many thanks | 06:08 |
| rww | much | 06:09 |
| rob__ | i would be totally fascinated and interested in having many more conversations about open source with you | 06:09 |
| rob__ | and if u ever have questions about computer hardware within desktops and such... then ask me because I'm very well versed with computer hardwre | 06:10 |
| * rww ponders how one would measure the... scope? coverage? of an apt repository | 06:11 | |
| rob__ | well... as far as I can tell from my research there are two main apt repositories available for every distro specific repository | 06:13 |
| rob__ | free and then non-free | 06:14 |
| rww | I'm wondering because I suspect that Debian + contrib + nonfree has the same amount of it as the total of the Ubuntu repositories. | 06:14 |
| rww | non-free ** | 06:14 |
| rob__ | true.. but apparently it is not recommended that you use apt.'s from server repositories that are not specific to your OS distro | 06:15 |
| rww | I know. That doesn't really have anything to do with which repository is larger :\ | 06:16 |
| rww | But yeah. You can't count how many packages because different packagers might either use one large package or split into a lot of small ones. Plus language packs and other such non-scopeful things. You can't go by total size because of various things that'd affect the size of binary packages... hrm. | 06:17 |
| akk | Debian and Ubuntu mostly use the same structure there, don't they? | 06:18 |
| rww | counting source packages might work | 06:18 |
| kdub | pleia2: inkscape was a good suggestion, flier looks pretty dece | 06:18 |
| rob__ | from what I could tell... from according to polishlinux.org which is like a knolwedge base for distro comparison.. debian supposedly had like roughly 18,000 and ubuntu had like 10.. | 06:19 |
| rob__ | but then that would be hard to keep real time track of | 06:19 |
| rob__ | and yes you get into things like package tree's and what not | 06:20 |
| rww | Odd, since Ubuntu syncs from Debian. I don't think we're excluding 8,000 packages from autosync :\ | 06:20 |
| rob__ | so that is a good point <rww> | 06:20 |
| rob__ | well true... a huge number of those packages are autosynced... | 06:23 |
| rob__ | because debian and ubuntu us a lot of the same terminal utilities | 06:23 |
| rob__ | what do u run? | 06:23 |
| rob__ | i'm making my first personal install of ubuntu 10.10 64 bit | 06:24 |
| rww | right now, I have Kubuntu natty x86 on one computer and Debian testing amd64 (with KDE) on another. | 06:25 |
| rww | well, Debian almost-stable. It's coming out in a week or so, iirc. | 06:25 |
| rob__ | ahh... so your running a test distro... | 06:26 |
| akk | I'm still on lucid myself, rob__ | 06:26 |
| rww | Yeah, I get bored if things aren't about to fall apart on any given day. | 06:27 |
| rob__ | lucid.. that's one that I have not read or hear much about @ all | 06:27 |
| rob__ | yea, i don't understand how u guys are ready to rip your hair out every day... because u have 2 deal with issues like hardware/driver compatibility issues... network hardware issues... software bugs... allll kinds of things... you guys are like the marines of Linux.. your the bullet proof vest haha | 06:28 |
| akk | rob__: lucid is the previous release (10.04) and is the current "long term support" release, so it will be around, and popular, for quite a while yet. | 06:29 |
| rob__ | hmm.. so this is like the updatable standard version of ubuntu... | 06:32 |
| rww | the nice thing about both Debian and Ubuntu is that you have a choice between well-supported releases, stuff that works pretty well and is reasonably up-to-date, and insanity. | 06:34 |
| rob__ | yes.. that's the main thing that drew me into Debain based | 06:35 |
| rob__ | and I thought debian was a lot more complex with terminal commands then ubuntu | 06:37 |
| akk | No, they're virtually identical. | 06:38 |
| rob__ | i know ubuntu runs very efficiently for things like 3d rendering and gaming | 06:38 |
| kdub | honestly, why doesnt gwibber ever work? | 06:38 |
| akk | If anything, ubuntu is more complex, because it tends to jump on new undocumented things like upstart. | 06:39 |
| rob__ | see now I'm starting to completely rethink what my flagship distro will be | 06:39 |
| rww | kdub: I used to blame couchdb. I need to go look at what its dependencies are now and find something else to blame :\ | 06:40 |
| kdub | rww: are you a gwibber dev? if so, sry for the blatent complaints :) | 06:40 |
| rww | nope | 06:40 |
| rww | but if I were, I suspect it wouldn't be anything I hadn't already heard a lot ;) | 06:40 |
| kdub | yeah, gwibber worked once for me, i liked it. then it stopped | 06:41 |
| rww | It worked for me when I used it, but used ungodly amounts of system resources. I ended up using identica's XMPP bot instead. | 06:41 |
| rww | well, apart from Facebook integration, which was broken | 06:42 |
| akk | I only tried it for FB, and gave up on it (but that was a while ago, it's probably better now). | 06:42 |
| akk | I'd love a non-broken way of reading FB. | 06:43 |
| rob__ | i access all the actual web site servers themselves... because it's garaunteed to have the best feature capability of course | 06:43 |
| rob__ | the only thing that I use in terms of universal access utilities is Empathy for chatting | 06:43 |
| kdub | yeah, i like the little floaty messages though | 06:44 |
| kdub | could probably just write a python script to send dbus signals when new twitters come in | 06:44 |
| kdub | thats all i want gwibber to do :P | 06:44 |
| rob__ | you're well versed in python scripting ? | 06:44 |
| akk | <3 bitlbee for twitter. I wonder if the version in maverick has that? (I had to get a newer one for lucid.) | 06:45 |
| kdub | if i want a script to do serious work, i use python | 06:45 |
| akk | I wrote a nice python twitter app, but then twitter changed their authentication scheme and I never had the time to figure out the new way. | 06:45 |
| kdub | there's an api, makes it easy, or at least there was 6mo ago | 06:45 |
| akk | There is, except for authentication which isn't documented. | 06:46 |
| akk | The rest of the python-twitter api is super easy to use. | 06:46 |
| rob__ | python sounds like way lite to me | 06:46 |
| rob__ | beyond my skills lol | 06:46 |
| rob__ | i know python is used in game development | 06:46 |
| akk | It's a general purpose language, good for nearly anything (except kernel development). | 06:47 |
| rob__ | well I'd think for that you'd need to use C | 06:47 |
| rob__ | or C++ | 06:48 |
| akk | http://xkcd.com/353/ | 06:48 |
| akk | Just C, no C++ in the kernel. | 06:48 |
| rob__ | would u say it's worth it to chase a degree in programming? | 06:49 |
| rob__ | lolol | 06:49 |
| akk | I wouldn't know, I got a degree in something else and learned programming on my own. | 06:50 |
| rob__ | yea.. I'm starting with the basics right now | 06:50 |
| rob__ | like right now I'm trying 2 figure out | 06:51 |
| akk | But, time to give up on tweaking this android app and go to bed. Night, all! | 06:51 |
| rob__ | night | 06:51 |
| rob__ | kdub... quick question | 06:51 |
| kdub | don't ask to ask, just ask | 06:52 |
| kdub | (one of the cliche IRC sayings, btw) | 06:52 |
| rww | if only people would ask whether they should ask to ask | 06:53 |
| rob__ | basically what I'm trying 2 get at... is two things.. I need to get the most out of my CPU.. an AMD Turion 64 X2 | 06:54 |
| rob__ | and from waht I can tell.. debain based distro support for 64 bit addressing has come leaps and bounds with the newest releases | 06:55 |
| rob__ | so have all the kinks been worked out of 64 bit support.. like for instance.. i know there was an issue with installing flash on a 64 bit release | 06:56 |
| rob__ | like any more... driver compatibility issues... this question is a bit in depth haha | 06:56 |
| kdub | idk, works pretty ok last I heard | 06:57 |
| rob__ | fair enough... :) | 06:58 |
| rob__ | i think i'm just gonna go w/ ubuntu legacy 64 then | 06:58 |
| rww | on Ubuntu, flashplugin-installer for 64-bit in the repositories is the 32-bit plugin in a wrapper. There's an unpackaged 64-bit native plugin that's available from Adobe as an alpha or beta or something, if the wrapped 32-bit doesn't work. | 06:59 |
| rww | I forget what Debian does, but I expect it's the same. | 06:59 |
| rww | I've had no problem with 64-bit myself, but I also don't use non-Free stuff much at all, and that's where most of the complaints come from. | 07:00 |
| rob__ | so.. it's Ndiswrapped ? | 07:01 |
| rww | nspluginwrapper | 07:02 |
| rww | which is an entirely different thing from ndiswrapper, but people mix them up constantly. | 07:02 |
| rob__ | ahhhh... okay so ndiswrapper is the XP windows kernal wrap | 07:02 |
| rob__ | and nsplugin is different | 07:03 |
| rob__ | i am researching it now | 07:03 |
| rob__ | haha | 07:03 |
| rob__ | i wish i could be neo and just download all this informatin into my brain from the matrix | 07:03 |
| rob__ | well many thanks once again... i need to do a bit more research to figure out if I need Debian or Ubuntu | 07:17 |
| rob__ | although I know I'm going Lucid for now | 07:17 |
| jamie | morning | 15:25 |
| === jamie is now known as Guest41956 | ||
| MarkDude | HEllo jedahan | 16:17 |
| jamie_ | morning MarkDude | 16:17 |
| MarkDude | Hey there jamie_ | 16:17 |
| * MarkDude just installed Puppy Linux 5.2 last night- *awesome* | 16:21 | |
| MarkDude | Lucid Puppy, much cleaner easier to use, AND it lets you pick only the programs you need - FF, chrome, gimp etc | 16:22 |
| MarkDude | great thing to suggest to folks that want to learn about Linux | 16:22 |
| jedahan | howdy MarkDude | 16:29 |
| MarkDude | jedahan, do you have a todo list started of activities yet? | 16:39 |
| jedahan | yes, but its very short: just 'find place to stay' and 'go to noisebridge' | 16:40 |
| jedahan | I will be able to do some major planning after getting mysql to behave nicely and fix whatever bugs I introduced this week | 16:41 |
| MarkDude | http://events.hackerdojo.com/event/383001-ignite-silicon-valley-3 | 16:41 |
| MarkDude | Feb 11th | 16:41 |
| MarkDude | Dojo has some real cool folks at it | 16:42 |
| jedahan | ahh cool pettis started ignite | 16:50 |
| jedahan | hes a pretty nice guy | 16:50 |
| jedahan | dojo, added to the list | 16:51 |
| jamie_ | man its quiet in here today | 20:13 |
| * pleia2 work work | 20:14 | |
| jedahan | yeah hack hack hack hack | 20:14 |
| jamie_ | oh hey pleia2 i was able to find a converter i could use | 20:15 |
| pleia2 | jamie_: oh good | 20:16 |
| pleia2 | we received 100 ubuntu and 100 kubuntu cds for our scale booth | 20:16 |
| pleia2 | and now have badges for booth volunteers, so let me know if you are volunteering and need one | 20:17 |
| pleia2 | (gets you in for free, don't need to buy a ticket) | 20:17 |
| MarkDude | Kubuntu also? good deal DarkwingDuck as well as the Europeans will be happy :) | 20:17 |
| pleia2 | yeah, that's DarkwingDuck's doing :) | 20:18 |
| * MarkDude jokes. That is good tho, I know it was harsh to not have any KDE for the booth at OSCON | 20:18 | |
| MarkDude | As we get closer - let me know what folks want on the ZA machine and others | 20:18 |
| * MarkDude figures Stellarium might work for eyecandy- the Strata has 512 Ati graphics | 20:19 | |
| MarkDude | Unity also? | 20:19 |
| pleia2 | add these ideas to the wiki please :) | 20:19 |
| pleia2 | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects/Scale9x | 20:20 |
| * MarkDude does that now. And chooses to grumble to himself that there are still *3* links to *CaliforniaTeam/Meetings* in the header- | 20:22 | |
| pleia2 | we received the exhibitors info, so I'll add that to the wiki too when I have a chance | 20:23 |
| pleia2 | (work is busy busy today) | 20:23 |
| nhaines | I will lend the Ubuntu booth an Ubuntu keyboard and a Tux keyboard, both from Zareason. | 20:26 |
| DarkwingDuck | lol | 20:27 |
| DarkwingDuck | Last year to also provided CDs at the Gnome and KDE tables | 20:27 |
| DarkwingDuck | I have a high end laptop now that we can use to let people use Kubuntu | 20:28 |
| DarkwingDuck | I'll make a profile for it. | 20:28 |
| pleia2 | cool, so we all work to get the details on the wiki and we'll start getting together loose ends at our meeting on sunday | 20:29 |
| DarkwingDuck | Ja | 20:29 |
| JonathanD | MarkDude: guy emailed me about a geeknic in LA. | 20:35 |
| JonathanD | looks like you're going to have a busy 2011. | 20:36 |
| DarkwingDuck | geeknic in LA? | 20:37 |
| DarkwingDuck | When? | 20:37 |
| DarkwingDuck | I might drive the 2 hours for that. | 20:37 |
| JonathanD | I haven't a clue! | 20:37 |
| DarkwingDuck | XD | 20:38 |
| MarkDude | DarkwingDuck, i got the email | 20:39 |
| MarkDude | I can forward info to you | 20:39 |
| DarkwingDuck | MarkDude: can you please? | 20:39 |
| MarkDude | Sure | 20:39 |
| DarkwingDuck | david.wonderly@kubuntu.org | 20:39 |
| * MarkDude can pretty much be assured we will find at least one person interested in this at Scale | 20:41 | |
| JonathanD | MarkDude: so, viable you think? | 20:44 |
| * MarkDude is willing to bet $ on it | 20:49 | |
| MarkDude | For sure. | 20:49 |
| MarkDude | Active folks down there | 20:49 |
| MarkDude | both of my talks mention geeknics | 20:49 |
| * MarkDude can have an email signup list | 20:49 | |
| JonathanD | Great. | 20:49 |
| MarkDude | Also trying to get momentum for geeknic during OSCON or CLS in Portland this year | 20:50 |
| MarkDude | no guarantees on that | 20:51 |
| JonathanD | someone pick me up on the way to the LA one when it happens. | 20:51 |
| MarkDude | yet | 20:51 |
| JonathanD | ; | 20:51 |
| JonathanD | ;) | 20:51 |
| * MarkDude mocks SoCal | 20:51 | |
| MarkDude | Hi Im SoCal- I can have parties at the beach- year round | 20:51 |
| JonathanD | hah | 20:51 |
| JonathanD | I'll show you! | 20:51 |
| JonathanD | I'll have my own party at the beach, today! | 20:52 |
| * JonathanD grabs a snow shovel. | 20:52 | |
| * MarkDude guesses need to include vegetarian, vegan, as well as made-up cult diets as well | 20:52 | |
| jedahan | here here! | 20:52 |
| jedahan | i'll just scrape the ice off my surfboard | 20:53 |
| MarkDude | My pilates guru says I can only eat wheat that has been blessed | 20:53 |
| jedahan | haaahaha | 20:53 |
| MarkDude | jedahan, you need wetsuit up here | 20:53 |
| MarkDude | down there, not so much | 20:53 |
| * MarkDude wore one in San Diego years ago, got to warm - just wore shorts | 20:54 | |
| jedahan | hope you had a lot of sunscreen but that is nice | 20:54 |
| * jedahan has only surfed one time | 20:54 | |
| jedahan | and barely stayed on the board. Still it was rewarding | 20:54 |
| jedahan | fun even | 20:55 |
| MarkDude | For the geeknics up here- we need to have sunscreen and shades as well as umbrellas etc | 20:55 |
| MarkDude | People burst into flames in SoCal they are like way closer to the sun down there or sumthin' | 20:55 |
| MarkDude | plei a2, as well as myself got burned last summer- we dont forget sunblock anymore :) | 20:56 |
| MarkDude | jedahan, are you planning on surfing while here? I would suggest a weekend in the *land of milk and honey* | 20:59 |
| MarkDude | Santa Cruz | 20:59 |
| MarkDude | Stay near the mall- boardwalk for 1 night- surf, go to the beach, etc. | 21:00 |
| MarkDude | DarkwingDuck, email sent | 21:01 |
| jedahan | MarkDude, as I said before, if I am to surf I would probably need lessons | 21:05 |
| jedahan | well, didn't say that exactly, but I'll take a look at Santa Cruz | 21:06 |
| jedahan | Trying to stick with public transport as much as possible, don't want to rent a car | 21:06 |
| jedahan | man boardwalk sounds great right now couldn't even get to work in this snow | 21:07 |
| MarkDude | jedahan, they have lessons of course :) | 21:10 |
| MarkDude | You can take Caltrain to San Jose | 21:10 |
| MarkDude | then a HWY17 bus | 21:11 |
| MarkDude | takes you to downtown SC | 21:11 |
| jedahan | got it, follow John Coltrane to City17 | 21:11 |
| jedahan | if I want to go surfing | 21:12 |
| MarkDude | Walking distance if you can tow your suitcase to at least 5 hotels motels | 21:12 |
| MarkDude | plus a youth hostel | 21:12 |
| MarkDude | right above the boardwalk | 21:12 |
| jedahan | I hope to keep the suitcase light, but if it isn't whatever good excercise | 21:13 |
| MarkDude | screw surfing- go there because it is one of the most beautiful places on the face of the earth | 21:13 |
| jedahan | hmm, I *guess* that is a good enough reason | 21:13 |
| MarkDude | People from Hawaii are impressed with SC, and they know part of perfection ;) | 21:13 |
| MarkDude | More than likely - for you to go- you could get a ride down there to go to an event or meeting | 21:14 |
| jedahan | I will be posting my itenarary online as I sort it out, for sure | 21:15 |
| MarkDude | Remember that we have all sorts of different *worlds* here just a few miles apart | 21:15 |
| MarkDude | Not just the mental aspects- but weather also | 21:15 |
| jedahan | Well, best to hear from locals what to do, for sure :D My usual google-fu is failing to impress | 21:16 |
| MarkDude | 30 minutes away can equal 20 degrees or more temp difference | 21:16 |
| jedahan | due to elevation or how far inland/outland? | 21:16 |
| MarkDude | some of that | 21:17 |
| MarkDude | the mountains can trap moisture in or out also | 21:17 |
| MarkDude | the way the land tilts towards or away from the sun etc, | 21:18 |
| MarkDude | Sc is titled in a way to get more sun than Monterey - can make a 25 degreee change | 21:18 |
| Eureka | wiki: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects/Scale9x edited | 21:18 |
| * MarkDude edited the scale wiki- is that how I should put the info? Or make a stuff we have list | 21:19 | |
| pleia2 | MarkDude: I think we want to fill in the "Stuff we need" table - so maybe make a "Demo Box 3" and add yours as Demo Box 1&2 | 21:57 |
| pleia2 | but don't worry about it too much, mostly I just want a brain dump on the wiki so it's not all randomly talked about in IRC w/o coordination and we show up with 40 demo machines :) | 21:58 |
| pleia2 | and no power cables | 21:58 |
| pleia2 | and I think we'll want to go through everything everyone is offering to bring and pick the nicest ones | 21:58 |
| MarkDude | Sounds good pleia2 I can do that in a bit | 22:45 |
| nhaines | Happy Epoch Day 15000 everyone! | 23:11 |
| rww | what | 23:52 |
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