| Kilos | morning superfly . Hows you and family | 07:04 |
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| Kilos | we been having lotsa power cuts with the rain the last few days | 07:04 |
| Kilos | Maaz, coffee on | 07:05 |
| * Maaz starts grinding coffee | 07:05 | |
| Kilos | morning everyone else too also as well | 07:05 |
| Maaz | Coffee's ready for Kilos! | 07:09 |
| Kilos | Maaz, baie dankie | 07:09 |
| Maaz | Plesier Kilos | 07:09 |
| superfly | hey Kilos, all is good this side | 07:16 |
| Kilos | great | 07:17 |
| linuxboy | superfly: tell somaunn netstat | 07:36 |
| superfly | linuxboy: ok, if I'm around :-P | 07:37 |
| linuxboy | bah | 07:37 |
| linuxboy | Maaz: tell somaunn netstat | 07:37 |
| Maaz | linuxboy: Got it, I'll tell somaunn on freenode | 07:37 |
| inetpro | good morning | 07:54 |
| Kilos | lo inetpro | 08:07 |
| Kilos | hoe gaan dit oompie | 08:07 |
| deegee_ | inetpro: hello | 08:09 |
| Kilos | hey guys does this mean that only root got control of the floppy | 08:13 |
| Kilos | miles@P4:~$ ls -l /dev/fd0 | 08:13 |
| Kilos | brw-rw---- 1 root floppy 2, 0 2011-01-26 09:46 /dev/fd0 | 08:13 |
| Kilos | hi walterl deegee_ | 08:14 |
| deegee_ | hi Kilos ... | 08:15 |
| walterl | hi Kilos | 08:26 |
| superfly | Kilos: that means that if you want to access it, you need to be part of the "floppy" group | 08:36 |
| Kilos | i did sudo chown -R miles:miles /media/fp0 | 08:37 |
| Kilos | now it is open to miles | 08:37 |
| superfly | no, you must not do that | 08:37 |
| Kilos | eish | 08:37 |
| superfly | do not fiddle with files in /dev | 08:37 |
| superfly | you will mess your computer up | 08:37 |
| Kilos | ok | 08:38 |
| Kilos | whew | 08:38 |
| Kilos | spent a coupla days looking at the bug fixes and can mount the floppy with sudo udisks --mount /dev/fd0 | 08:39 |
| Kilos | but see nothing on it | 08:40 |
| superfly | <superfly> Kilos: that means that if you want to access it, you need to be part of the "floppy" group | 08:40 |
| Kilos | the floppy icon in places does nothing | 08:40 |
| Kilos | oh and how do i become part of that group | 08:41 |
| Kilos | but we will need a ubuntu guys help | 08:41 |
| superfly | on the command line "sudo adduser miles floppy" | 08:41 |
| Kilos | i dont know if kubuntu also battles with floppies | 08:41 |
| Kilos | ok will do that ty | 08:42 |
| Kilos | now i done it. it says miles is already a user fo floppy | 08:43 |
| Kilos | thats because of the chown | 08:43 |
| superfly | Kilos: WAYTTD | 08:44 |
| Kilos | ? | 08:44 |
| Kilos | can i chown it back to root | 08:45 |
| Kilos | should i | 08:46 |
| Kilos | don't worry superfly you are much too busy and i just wanted to get some books off floppies to sore on here | 08:50 |
| Kilos | still have time ty | 08:50 |
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| drubin | Maaz: tell nuvolari goeie goeie verjaarsdag! Happy Happy all around hey! | 16:42 |
| Maaz | drubin: Got it, I'll tell nuvolari on freenode | 16:42 |
| superfly | drubin: "gelukkige" AFAIK is the correct Afrikaans | 16:45 |
| superfly | or "veels geluk met jou verjaarsdag" | 16:46 |
| drubin | superfly: Dankie. | 16:47 |
| * drubin tried | 16:47 | |
| superfly | my Afrikaans is rusty, thanks to disuse | 16:48 |
| drubin | disuse? | 16:54 |
| superfly | yeah, dis-use, I don't use it much | 16:55 |
| drubin | I read it as "disuse" like something arb | 16:56 |
| inetpro | good evening | 17:55 |
| inetpro | drubin: ping | 17:55 |
| Kilos | hi inetpro | 17:55 |
| inetpro | hi Kilos | 17:55 |
| drubin | inetpro: pong | 18:01 |
| inetpro | drubin: how's you doing today? | 18:02 |
| drubin | inetpro: good good and you? | 18:02 |
| inetpro | had a very busy day but am doing ok | 18:03 |
| drubin | Good. | 18:03 |
| inetpro | drubin: I was just thinking of posting something to the guy who asked about access | 18:03 |
| inetpro | but then decided against it | 18:03 |
| inetpro | sorry to bother | 18:03 |
| drubin | inetpro: Post it... it can't heart | 18:04 |
| drubin | hurt& | 18:04 |
| inetpro | drubin: eish, no | 18:04 |
| inetpro | I think marcog's post was ok | 18:04 |
| inetpro | don't want to waste my time | 18:05 |
| marcog | inetpro: no harm more knowledgable people telling them they're being ignorant not looking at real alternatives :) | 18:06 |
| * inetpro gets very worked up about anything in access | 18:07 | |
| drubin | hehe | 18:07 |
| drubin | and so you should be | 18:07 |
| marcog | so do i | 18:07 |
| inetpro | marcog: I like the following: "its very nature encourages users to create "little" applications which become "not so little applications". Then the user leaves and I have to support..." | 18:08 |
| inetpro | http://stackoverflow.com/questions/221995/ms-access-front-end-alternative | 18:08 |
| inetpro | for the sake of others not on the mailing list ^^ | 18:09 |
| marcog | inetpro: i'm not so sure that matters in the context of teaching | 18:09 |
| inetpro | marcog: you will be surprised | 18:09 |
| marcog | how many people go away from IT and use access in the real world? | 18:10 |
| marcog | inetpro: perhaps | 18:10 |
| inetpro | there are a many of these crappy access "solutions" out there | 18:10 |
| inetpro | and the worst of all is that many of them still believe they know something about computers | 18:11 |
| marcog | :/ | 18:12 |
| inetpro | if they have done this "massive" thing on access | 18:12 |
| marcog | i think that's worth adding on the list | 18:12 |
| marcog | i don't think teachers would really be aware of what happens after school | 18:12 |
| marcog | and what is required | 18:12 |
| inetpro | marcog: honestly, I'll rather stay out of it | 18:12 |
| marcog | fair enough | 18:13 |
| inetpro | marcog: perhaps it's just the mood that I'm in after a rough day, so better to stay out of it :-) | 18:35 |
| marcog | inetpro: np, i've had similar feelings about that list at times | 18:36 |
| inetpro | I hate meetings, and I just had one to many today and another grueling one tomorrow | 18:36 |
| marcog | :/ | 18:37 |
| drubin | me needs to learn when not to post things | 18:38 |
| inetpro | drubin: it's not worth it most of the time | 18:39 |
| drubin | but must post .... | 18:40 |
| inetpro | drubin: it's a catch 22 | 18:41 |
| drubin | I think my biggest problem is trying to stay awake till at least 10 | 18:41 |
| inetpro | well I really wish that I could educate the (some) educators about technology but I have come to realise that it's just about an impossible task | 18:44 |
| drubin | well only because people's willingness to learn has just stoped | 18:45 |
| inetpro | and there's just not enough time in a day | 18:45 |
| marcog | inetpro: i disagree, i've had great experiences with a handful of them | 18:45 |
| drubin | marcog: he mentioned "some" | 18:46 |
| marcog | and for those cases, the impact it has on all their learners is worth it for me | 18:46 |
| inetpro | marcog: I'm speaking for myself | 18:46 |
| drubin | inetpro: at one point I was doing 18 -20 hour days | 18:46 |
| drubin | it helps but unsustainable | 18:46 |
| marcog | drubin: just saying it's not impossible | 18:47 |
| drubin | marcog: it is impossible to get through to "some people" | 18:47 |
| drubin | ie some spesifc people | 18:47 |
| drubin | Maaz: spell spesific | 18:47 |
| Maaz | drubin: Suggestions: specific | 18:47 |
| inetpro | :-) | 18:48 |
| drubin | ye that one thanks Maaz | 18:48 |
| marcog | drubin: yes some, sure | 18:48 |
| marcog | like the ones who chose delphi :( | 18:48 |
| inetpro | eish | 18:49 |
| drubin | marcog: even suggested oo don't say it Java over delphi | 18:49 |
| superfly | as much as I love Delphi, it's not really suited to teaching programming concepts | 19:01 |
| Kilos | night all. sleep tight | 20:24 |
| inetpro | fp | 22:00 |
| froztbyte | sp | 22:00 |
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