[01:19] holstein: I'd better be off, thanks for your help [01:19] d'oh [01:19] i got busy and forgot about 'em [02:19] Hey guys, is there a better video editing package than Kino? [02:19] Wiesshund: there are diffrent ones arguably better ones im sure [02:21] holstein is there anything that will work with mutiple video tracks at the same time? [02:21] hmmm [02:21] i thought kino could [02:21] not sure [02:21] im not a video guy [02:21] maybe i didnt explain that well [02:21] should be up on the sites though [02:21] erm ok think ardour but video [02:22] right [02:22] i assumed that was kind of a basic function [02:23] hmm, so far, kino is working kind of like er say moviemaker? [02:23] Wiesshund, openshot or blender can edit video [02:23] Wiesshund, dvdstyler can author dvds [02:23] making it real hard to do soemthing where i need to keep mulple video streams in sync [02:24] ScottL Blender can? oh hell i thought it only did its own 3d animation stuff [02:25] Wiesshund, hold on a minute, i have a pretty good tutorial for it [02:25] Wiesshund, http://www.straightedgelinux.com/videoBlender/ [02:25] that would be cool. i made a vid today and in kino it was hell trying to keep things synced [02:26] Wiesshund, the beauty of blender is that you can also do compositing like green stuff or alpha over [02:26] Wiesshund, hold on, i'll find another tutorail for that [02:26] ScottL: is that what you used? [02:27] holstein, yes, i used blender for my green screen video, really it was just a proof-of-concept [02:27] Wiesshund, http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/9831 [02:27] hmm, im going to have to give that a try [02:27] Wiesshund, this is a quick video i made with blender http://vimeo.com/14034958 [02:28] it was as proof of concept for green screen [02:28] im trying really hard not to poke in the windows HD just to run adobe premier [02:28] i video taped myself in my music room recording a made up rhythm then taped another of myself doing lead in front of green screen [02:29] then i green screened my second self and composited them together, scaling the 2nd me abit and moving it over to fit better [02:30] hehe i just noticed your kids head appear [02:30] yeah, it looked like i was looking at myself until you see my son appear :P [02:32] definately good sync between the 2 video tracks [02:33] i did this in kino but sync wise i think it came out really bad http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gki1Ps1uBOc [02:34] openshot is pretty good for editing video and supports a lot of video formats for input as well [02:34] i couldnt find for the life of me how to run 4 or 5 tracks in it simultaneously and puch transitions in so i would up cutting alot of clips and stonging them together :( [02:34] but i have to say that blender supports almost all formats and can export to almost any format [02:34] wound up* [02:34] yeah, i'm not sure on kino either [02:35] pitivi is not too bad either for straight editing video, i don't think it even comes with transitions really [02:35] not that transitions are really that important for most video, at least not many transitions [02:35] yea what i got out of it was its a good relacement for the windows moviemaker variety of software (Kino) [02:36] Wiesshund, this is also a good tutorial for some aspects for blender: http://monochrome.sutic.nu/2010/06/14/video-editing-with-blender.html [02:36] this will show you, among other high brow stuff, how to use ffmpeg to generate the right video format for youtube, vimeo, etc [02:37] Yea i only wanted pretty much just direct punch transitions, not fades etc. Heh it's funny cause ive been learning a little 3d stuff with blender [02:37] i've edit video with blender but never, never played with the 3d stuff...kinda funny i suppose [02:38] if you plan on using the h264 coded you might also look at: http://monochrome.sutic.nu/2010/06/16/blender-h264.html [02:39] i didnt know blender did other totaly separate things heh. feel dumb now [02:42] think im going to redo my vid giving blender a try [02:42] it definately cant come out any worse sync wise [02:47] lol, good luck [02:49] funny, i just found this and it's recent: http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/openmovieeditor-and-blender-more-nle-delights [03:07] cool [16:41] hello, anyone has a guide for mixxx + jack + m-audio fast track pro ? I see only one stereo output in jack (seems like the FTP exposes itself as 2 stereo output devices, and I can only choose one in qjackctl) [16:42] flupke: so it's two separate stereo-only devices? [16:42] maybe you could use alsa_out to get the other pair [16:43] gordonjcp: yes, with alsa I can use both devices [16:43] but I need jack to do some routing [16:43] then, use alsa_out to get the other output [16:44] gordonjcp: can't jack use 2 devices ? [16:44] You mean connect to two devices at once? [16:44] Yes [16:44] no, and it doesn't work particularly well if you try to use an input and an output on two different cards [16:45] do you have a screen shot you can post somewhere? www.tinypic.com [16:45] frederickjh: sure just a sec [16:48] frederickjh: http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=rr5ert&s=7 [16:48] ok [16:49] frederickjh: hw:1,0 and hw:1,1 are the FTP two stereo out [16:49] if I could configure jack to use them both, mixxx could use both too [16:50] So you want to output to both at the same time? [16:50] frederickjh: yes [16:51] frederickjh: in jack there would be 4 outputs instead of two [16:51] playback_1 to 4 [16:51] (that's for being able to have one main output + one headphones output) [16:53] What is the name of the card you are missing? [16:55] frederickjh: I don't miss one (they are shown as "USB Audio" and "USB Audio #1" in qjackctl on the screenshot), but I'm looking for a way to select both for output in jack [16:56] try opening a terminal and running this [16:56] alsa_in -jUSBAudio1 -dhw:1 [16:56] see if the ins show up in jack control [16:58] frederickjh: aaah brilliant, I found a thread explaining alsa_out [16:58] frederickjh: alsa_out -j second -d hw:1,1 , now I see both devices in jack :) many thanks [16:58] Add the command in the after server start in Jack Control to start it on server start up. [16:58] Actually flupke suggested it. [16:59] 05:42:57 PM) gordonjcp: maybe you could use alsa_out to get the other pair [16:59] doh ! I missed this line -_- [16:59] Sorry, got my names mixed up [16:59] it was gordonjcp [17:00] Actually you answered it. [17:00] sorry guys it could have been solved instantly if I could read better :) [17:00] Maybe you had never heard of alsa_out. [17:00] thanks frederickjh and gordonjcp [17:00] No problem. [17:14] I have a nice jack startup script setting up PA and the second device, maybe there's a wiki somewhere to share it ?