[00:57] <maco> highvoltage: riddell & scottk say yes akonaditray can be split off into its own package and not installed by default. so..there's a start
[01:34] <highvoltage> maco: ooh, great! thanks for following up on that
[01:35] <maco> getting akonadi-server to not be installed would be a great deal more effort though and would require collaboration with debian, so breaking up python-kde4 into being more modular is not going to be happening this cycle
[01:37] <highvoltage> for this cycle at least we'll just hide unwanted icons. knowing that it's fixable is at least a good start, knowing that people care enough to work towards a solution in the future is awesome.
[01:37] <maco> i should at some point get to know the debian kde packagers
[01:41] <highvoltage> sounds like a good thing to do... or even become one?
[10:05] <Edencampus> Hi, we got a nice new server at Eden campus. We currently run 10.04 with 32 clients (VXL TC3831) lab.
[10:05] <Edencampus> I installed 10.10 amd DVD and the clients now give the error about  the kernel and cmov.
[10:06] <Edencampus> Error This kernel requires the following features not present on the cpu: cx8 cmov
[10:06] <Edencampus> Unable to boot - please use a kernel appropriate for your CPU.
[10:06] <Edencampus> Is there a fix or should we just use version 10.04 for now?
[10:14] <alkisg> Afaik there's no fix, you need to use 10.04. Are you using LTSP? How much RAM do those clients have?
[10:42] <Edencampus> 512MB RAM. They have been running edudbuntu since about Dapper. LTSP is being run
[10:44] <Edencampus> A few have only 256MB Ram
[10:46] <Edencampus> I was hoping I could just rebuild or re-configure the thin client image in opt for edubuntu 10.10
[10:56] <Edencampus> the clients use VIA C3 800MHz processors - memory upgraded from 128 MB to 512 or 256 MB
[11:45] <Edencampus> Edubuntu 10.10 with via C3 clients - clients unable to boot due to cx8 and cmov kernel requirements - any suggestions?
[12:06] <Edencampus> Thanks for the input. Downloading 10.04 now. Pity about the new features in 10.10 - now unusable in many thin client labs.
[16:21] <maco> Edencampus: there is nothing to be done about it. i586 is an unsupported architecture these days
[21:06] <highvoltage> stgraber: heh, I see global menu is now enabled by default in gnome and the menu is now just the small gnome menu instead of Applications Places System
[21:09] <robehend1> i take it theres still no way to remove the places menu from the gnome menu? that, or my google-fu is seriously lacking recently
[21:14] <stgraber> highvoltage: using ubuntu again ? :)
[21:16] <highvoltage> stgraber: VM :)
[21:22] <highvoltage> stgraber: I'm just wondering whether we should keep that as-is in edubuntu or put it back to the old ways
[22:28] <stgraber> highvoltage: not sure, having a delta in the UI is relatively painful for stuff like documentation. I'd need to have a look at what the user experience exactly is with classic desktop on edubuntu and if it might cause issues for our users
[22:58] <highvoltage> stgraber: indeed, the way I see it it's basically wheighing the painfulness of UI change for no reason against ... oh you're jabbering me :)
[23:18] <highvoltage> oh right, that was about something entirely different
[23:18] <highvoltage> painfulness of UI change for no reason against the painfulness of having to maintain a change in default ubuntu
[23:23] <stgraber> if we plan on shipping with unity in 11.10, then following that change makes sense, because it'll be a smoother transition for our users
[23:24] <stgraber> if we don't, then it's indeed pointless