[00:57] highvoltage: riddell & scottk say yes akonaditray can be split off into its own package and not installed by default. so..there's a start [01:34] maco: ooh, great! thanks for following up on that [01:35] getting akonadi-server to not be installed would be a great deal more effort though and would require collaboration with debian, so breaking up python-kde4 into being more modular is not going to be happening this cycle [01:37] for this cycle at least we'll just hide unwanted icons. knowing that it's fixable is at least a good start, knowing that people care enough to work towards a solution in the future is awesome. [01:37] i should at some point get to know the debian kde packagers [01:41] sounds like a good thing to do... or even become one? [10:05] Hi, we got a nice new server at Eden campus. We currently run 10.04 with 32 clients (VXL TC3831) lab. [10:05] I installed 10.10 amd DVD and the clients now give the error about the kernel and cmov. [10:06] Error This kernel requires the following features not present on the cpu: cx8 cmov [10:06] Unable to boot - please use a kernel appropriate for your CPU. [10:06] Is there a fix or should we just use version 10.04 for now? [10:14] Afaik there's no fix, you need to use 10.04. Are you using LTSP? How much RAM do those clients have? [10:42] 512MB RAM. They have been running edudbuntu since about Dapper. LTSP is being run [10:44] A few have only 256MB Ram [10:46] I was hoping I could just rebuild or re-configure the thin client image in opt for edubuntu 10.10 [10:56] the clients use VIA C3 800MHz processors - memory upgraded from 128 MB to 512 or 256 MB [11:45] Edubuntu 10.10 with via C3 clients - clients unable to boot due to cx8 and cmov kernel requirements - any suggestions? [12:06] Thanks for the input. Downloading 10.04 now. Pity about the new features in 10.10 - now unusable in many thin client labs. [16:21] Edencampus: there is nothing to be done about it. i586 is an unsupported architecture these days [21:06] stgraber: heh, I see global menu is now enabled by default in gnome and the menu is now just the small gnome menu instead of Applications Places System [21:09] i take it theres still no way to remove the places menu from the gnome menu? that, or my google-fu is seriously lacking recently [21:14] highvoltage: using ubuntu again ? :) [21:16] stgraber: VM :) [21:22] stgraber: I'm just wondering whether we should keep that as-is in edubuntu or put it back to the old ways [22:28] highvoltage: not sure, having a delta in the UI is relatively painful for stuff like documentation. I'd need to have a look at what the user experience exactly is with classic desktop on edubuntu and if it might cause issues for our users [22:58] stgraber: indeed, the way I see it it's basically wheighing the painfulness of UI change for no reason against ... oh you're jabbering me :) [23:18] oh right, that was about something entirely different [23:18] painfulness of UI change for no reason against the painfulness of having to maintain a change in default ubuntu [23:23] if we plan on shipping with unity in 11.10, then following that change makes sense, because it'll be a smoother transition for our users [23:24] if we don't, then it's indeed pointless