[00:08] <Riddell> rbelem: you pinged?
[00:08] <rbelem> Riddell, yup :-)
[00:09] <Riddell> maco: yes I'm ok with splitting akonaditray out if needed, they could also just add OnlyShowIn=kde to the .desktop file, or we could just hide the desktop file, I don't think it's very useflu
[00:09] <Riddell> useful
[00:09] <rbelem> Riddell, i would ask you to take a look at latest change on ksambashare dolphin plugin :-)
[00:10] <Riddell> rbelem: e-mail me, I can look tomorrow
[00:11] <rbelem> Riddell, oki
[00:50] <ScottK> Riddell: I'd rather split it out and not install it by default than hide it.  I agree it's not generally useful, but I needed it once and then it was very handy.
[00:55] <Riddell> maco: ^^
[01:29] <ScottK> Nice.  kdeedu needs updated to the new sip4 binary names ...
[01:29]  * ScottK is doing.
[01:31] <Riddell> thanks
[01:48] <ScottK> Lost power.  May or may not get this done before I lose battery.
[01:58] <DarkwingDuck> 111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111122222222
[02:01] <jjesse> DarkwingDuck what?
[02:06] <jjesse> JontheEchidna you around?
[02:07] <JontheEchidna> jjesse: yup
[02:07] <jjesse> trying to update my natty vm through muon and keep getting an error when applying changes "Package: ureadahead error: subprocess installed post-installation script returend errr exit status 1
[02:08] <DarkwingDuck> Kids got ahold of it.
[02:08] <JontheEchidna> bug 680328
[02:08] <JontheEchidna> Fix committed for the 1.1.1 release
[02:08] <jjesse> ah ok
[02:09] <JontheEchidna> It works fine in natty because it's relying on an APT bug to function properly
[02:09] <JontheEchidna> s/natty/maverick
[02:09] <jjesse> the vm is a natty vm
[02:09] <JontheEchidna> yeah, my mistake
[02:09] <jjesse> of you meant it works fine in maverick
[02:10] <jjesse> cool thanks
[02:10] <JontheEchidna> I think I'll package the patch, though, for the sake of people running natty
[02:11] <jjesse> is there a way to only have 1 update available "gear" or whatever the symbol shows up if i want to run muon?
[02:11] <jjesse> instead of one for kpackagekit and one for muon?
[02:12] <jjesse> does that make sense?
[02:13] <JontheEchidna> In KPackageKit's settings you can tell it to never check for updates. I'd recommend this anyways since its update checking settings are separate from the system's
[02:14] <jjesse> ok, is that through system settings or through kpackagekit itself?
[02:15] <JontheEchidna> KPackageKit itself.
[02:15] <JontheEchidna> though KPK is also accessible via system settings, so it doesn't make too much difference
[02:16] <jjesse> if i run an apt-get update then will i only get the update icon in the taskbar for muon and not packagekit?
[02:17] <JontheEchidna> if everything is working you should
[02:17] <jjesse> cool will have to test it :)
[02:17] <jjesse> on a side note running my Kubuntu VM in seamless mode on my windows 7 laptop is pretty cool
[02:26] <jjesse> does anyone else have problems w/ rekonq crashing everytime you launch it?  (natty)
[02:29] <JontheEchidna> not me
[02:29] <jjesse> hrmm
[02:30] <jjesse> get a crash right away "Executable:rekonq PID: 1853 signal: Segmentation fault (11)
[04:19] <ScottK-droid> kdebindings needs at least a rebuild and maybe updating for the new sip4.
[04:20] <ScottK-droid> That's currently blocking kdeedu from building in Natty.
[04:21] <ScottK-droid> I'm hoping someone with electricity can take care of it
[04:23] <ScottK-droid> If not, I'll do it once I get power back as long as I haven't frozen in the meantime.
[05:24] <nixternal> ScottK: having fun there in MD?
[05:24] <nixternal> you guys getting nailed with snow or something?
[05:38] <valorie> are you laughing at his pain, nixternal?
[05:38] <nixternal> i live in chicago, he doesn't even know pain
[05:39] <valorie> lol
[05:39] <nixternal> we get tornados and blizzards here in 2 days. ie. new years eve we had tornados, and on new years day we had a blizzard
[05:39] <valorie> my sympathy
[05:39] <nixternal> that was the craziest shit i ever witnessed in my life
[05:39] <valorie> our winter came right before Thanksgiving
[05:39] <valorie> now it seems like spring
[05:39] <nixternal> and today, we saw 2 wolves pimping on the hill behind our house
[05:39] <nixternal> where are you at again?
[05:40] <valorie> south of Seattle
[05:40] <nixternal> i wish it were spring here. i can wait to get out and ride my bike on some roads.
[05:40] <nixternal> ahh, fun times
[05:40] <valorie> I'm sure scott wishes you there, riding
[05:41] <valorie> oll
[05:41] <valorie> haha, typo
[05:42] <nixternal> http://www.abdcycling.com/events/ttseries.html  <- I am directing and racing in this event, so that is why I have been pretty much gone for the past couple of months. and of course summer time i am nowhere to be found, unless you know where i ride my bike :)
[05:47] <valorie> so is Emanuel gonna be your mayor soon?
[05:47] <nixternal> hope not
[05:47] <nixternal> hope they don't let him on the ballot
[05:47] <valorie> lol
[05:48] <valorie> I'm watching the Daily Show bit on it
[05:48] <nixternal> chicago and crook county need a change big time. the democrats have ruled it forever, and they both are a) the brokest city in the US and b) the brokest county in the US. I live in Republican land in DuPage county and we have to much money they are putting bike lanes in bathrooms now
[05:48] <nixternal> ahh, i am dvr'ing it so i will watch it later
[05:49] <nixternal> though, the mafia probably has a bit to do with that as well
[05:49] <valorie> ya think?
[05:49] <valorie> I think usually the city in the middle is poor, the surrounding cities/counties are wealthier
[05:49] <valorie> even Seattle is like that
[05:50] <nixternal> i am just glad that obama took the director from the worst school district in the united states and put him charge of the Department of Education
[05:50] <nixternal> Seattle is rich compared to Chicago
[05:50] <nixternal> and now we are losing Oprah. holy hell this place will implode on itself :D
[05:51] <valorie> poor people tend to go to cities
[05:51]  * persia suggests that city taxes are why those who can afford transportation choose to be outside city limits.
[05:51] <nixternal> the poor people are getting pushed out of chicago. they now live in areas like aurora, elgin, and rockford. who now have as high of a crime rate, if not higher, than chicago
[05:52] <valorie> Seattle is being taken over by yuppies
[05:52] <nixternal> i still prefer public transportation here to be honest. it is just that damn good
[05:52] <valorie> so I guess it's a cycle
[05:52] <nixternal> yeah, chicago is also being taken over by the yuppies and the hipsters
[05:52] <valorie> cycle, haha
[05:52] <nixternal> i see one more person wearing skinny jeans, i am going to knock them in the head :)
[05:53] <valorie> rofl
[05:56] <Daskreech> places have a higher crime rate than chicago?
[05:57] <nixternal> crime rate in chicago has dropped. of course the police superintendant wants everyone to believe that is his doing and the cpd's doing, but we all know it is because they have kicked those committing crimes out in to the western suburbs
[05:57] <valorie> Compton?
[05:57] <nixternal> compton isn't bad unless you get off a main road
[05:57] <valorie> haha
[05:58] <nixternal> when i worked for at&t myself and 2 others decided to road trip it to LA for a weekend. we had to check out compton, watts, crenshaw and all of the places we saw in the movies. most of it was actually really nice
[05:59] <valorie> yeah, I don't believe the TV news until I check it out myself
[05:59] <nixternal> what scared the shit out of us was over by the dodger's stadium when we tried to stop at a mcdonalds to go to the bathroom. we had about 50 latinos chasing us and flashing gang signs at us. and 50 isn't an exageration either. i laid down in the back seat
[06:00] <valorie> a Cali friend of mine told me that the gangs are all dying out now
[06:00] <nixternal> the thing that surprised me about LA. places like Watts, Compton, and Englewood were fairly clean and nice, and hollywood was dirty as hell
[06:00] <valorie> since almost everyone has a semi-legal weed dealer
[06:00] <Daskreech> cause they are bored or cause they are dying?
[06:00] <valorie> they've lost their market
[06:00] <nixternal> ahh, you gotta watch gangland on a&e. all about the crack in la :D
[06:01] <valorie> of course there is still meth
[06:01] <valorie> so they still have *something*
[06:01] <nixternal> i can't believe that crystal meth hasn't gotten big here in chicago. you go an hour south or west, holy hell. people the size of toothpicks missing their teeth and stealing whatever they can just to get their fix
[06:02] <valorie> it's a horrible drug
[06:02] <nixternal> my cousin lives south of seattle somewhere (trailer trash) and there is meth everywhere there
[06:02] <valorie> so terribly addictive
[06:02] <valorie> yes, it's awful here
[06:02] <nixternal> i watched on a&e the meth thing...who would want to do that crap? sure, you stay up for days, but you are constantly paranoid
[06:02] <valorie> goddam idiots make pot illegal
[06:03] <valorie> and then people move to meth
[06:03] <valorie> which is actually bad
[06:03] <valorie> heroin, etc
[06:03] <nixternal> when i say trailer trash, i mean a 5th wheel from the 50's...just crap. i have family in michigan who live in the prefabbed house (aka trailer or mobile home or double wide) and they aren't white trash. they are hillbilly as hell though
[06:03] <valorie> dang it, sorry for being so off-topic
[06:04] <DarkwingDuck> Hey nixternal 
[06:04] <nixternal> wasabi DarkwingDuck 
[06:04] <DarkwingDuck> Happy :D
[06:04] <nixternal> i hear jamaica is ganged out too. i watched a thing on tv where some big time gangster was killed
[06:04] <nixternal> don't know how recent it was though, but it was in kingston and i thought of you
[06:06] <nixternal> i hate when people send me emails of shit i already know and fixed a week ago. damn cycling people, some are dumb as a bag of hammers
[06:07] <nixternal> ok, midnight snack time. i am starving
[06:09] <valorie> schmecken Sie gut!
[06:09] <valorie> did you get your laptop, DarkwingDuck?
[06:11] <DarkwingDuck> Yup
[06:11] <DarkwingDuck> It's a bit insane lol
[06:14] <DarkwingDuck> But, I'm enjoying it.
[06:14] <DarkwingDuck> It's bigger then I'm used to but I'm getting over it 
[06:15] <valorie> one of these days you are going to give me some work, right?
[06:16] <DarkwingDuck> :)
[06:17] <DarkwingDuck> Yeah, now that I'm back online and full force. Tomorrow I'm reviewing everything.
[06:17] <DarkwingDuck> You going to be around tomorrow night?
[06:17] <valorie> actually, I'm going to a movie
[06:18] <valorie> however, I'll probably be back by about this time
[06:18] <DarkwingDuck> Okay, I should have more.
[06:18] <valorie> cool
[06:18] <valorie> I'm just about done with my Amarok Handbook
[06:18] <valorie> knock on wood
[06:18] <DarkwingDuck> Sweet
[06:19] <valorie> speaking of which, back to it
[06:21] <DarkwingDuck> XD
[06:36] <Daskreech> nixternal: when was that?
[08:35] <markey> apachelogger: Riddell: shadeslayer:
[08:35] <markey> Ryan Paul wants to do a review of KDE 4.6
[08:36] <markey> do we have an ETA for 4.6 backport for Maverick?
[08:36] <markey> he would like to use that, on Kubuntu
[08:36] <markey> (Ryan Paul is the FOSS journalist from Ars Technica)
[08:37] <Trouble`> It's already in Kubuntu Backports isn't it?
[08:37] <Trouble`> I'm sure Riddell said he copied it across yesterday
[08:38] <ulysses> https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/backports?field.series_filter=maverick
[08:38] <ulysses> It was done before Natty
[08:43] <markey> thanks guys
[08:54] <Riddell> yes it's already there, see kubuntu.org
[08:54] <ulysses> "The site is currently not available due to technical problems. Please try again later. Thank you for your understanding."
[08:54] <ulysses> :P
[09:00] <valorie> down for me too
[09:00] <valorie> as is ubuntu.com
[09:01] <valorie> drooooooooooopal troubles
[09:02] <markey> Riddell: I'm not seeing 4.6 final here...
[09:02] <markey> I just did an update/upgrade
[09:03] <markey> no KDE
[09:03] <markey> still RC2
[09:03] <markey> and Ryan is bitching about Launchpad servers being slow
[09:03] <markey> he could use a mirror, no?
[09:03] <markey> https://identi.ca/notice/63017507
[09:11] <Riddell> markey: do you have backports PPA enabled?  it's not the same one as the betas were in
[09:11] <Riddell> there's no mirrors of PPAs
[09:12] <markey> ooooh
[09:12] <markey> thanks
[09:12] <markey> that would be it
[09:12] <Riddell> and since all our websites are down I'm guessing there's a problem with canonical's hosting currently
[09:12] <ejat> hmm .. i got 565kB/s from the launchpad .. 
[09:13] <Riddell> anyway back when I was a lad 60 k/s was fast! :)
[09:14] <valorie> Riddell: it isn't httpd, it's the drupal
[09:14] <valorie> maybe they are upgrading or something
[09:14] <markey> Riddell: hehe. good point. I remember good old times with those U.S. Robotics modems, I'm not even sure anymore how fast they were
[09:14] <markey> where "fast" is a bit of a stretch
[09:15] <valorie> we had a 9600 one
[09:15] <ejat> ouch .. now getting slow .. :) 
[09:15] <ejat> 53kB/s ... hehe 
[09:15] <valorie> that was soooo much faster than 300baud!
[09:15] <valorie> I could type faster than 300 baud
[09:16] <markey> so, Ryan seems to be really impressed with KWin performance, "even in Virtualbox"
[09:16] <markey> no idea why he is using a VM
[09:16] <markey> but, meh
[09:19]  * markey mumbles something about doing the work that the KDE Promo Team should be supposed to do, *mumble mumble*
[09:20] <markey> for Promo, it is sort of important to keep direct contact with key journalist figures
[09:20] <markey> Aseigo knows how to play the game
[09:21] <markey> *mumbles* our current board is not all that active in that area, *grumble*
[09:50] <Riddell> debfx: how is pyqt doing?  kdeedu is the last SC module to compile and is waiting on it
[10:44] <debfx> Riddell: pyqt is already in the archive
[10:48] <Riddell> debfx: dood, you're awesome
[10:59] <Riddell> well I guess kdebindings is next on the todo list
[10:59] <Riddell> guten tag bulldog98 
[11:28] <Riddell> kdebindings compiling here, that's a good start :)
[11:58] <Riddell> it compiled!
[12:11] <Riddell> http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/4380 "Favourite IRC Client" poll
[12:15] <Tm_T> only those options? (:
[12:16] <Tm_T> I don't know it it would work with choice "other" so ye, I suppose those options would do
[12:29] <bertoldofonseca> Hi guys..
[12:29] <bertoldofonseca> I want to report a missing files on the server
[12:30] <Riddell> hi bertoldofonseca, what's up?
[12:30] <Tm_T> bertoldofonseca: hi, please detail what and where and why (:
[12:30] <bertoldofonseca> I migth realize the problem
[12:30] <bertoldofonseca> the Brazilian server is missing two files.
[12:31] <bertoldofonseca> I found then on US server.
[12:32] <bertoldofonseca> The files are in the ntrack module
[12:32] <bertoldofonseca> the version 008 in not published on the brazilian servers.
[12:33] <Tm_T> ah, then it's just a mirror being out of sync
[12:33] <Riddell> that'll be a mirror issue, I expect it'll sort itself out, otherwise you can try notifying on #ubuntu-mirrors
[12:34] <Riddell> see https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Mirrors
[12:34] <Tm_T> mirror states should be here: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors
[12:59] <bertoldofonseca> OK.... thank you guys
[13:30] <shadeslayer> Riddell: looks like you had a good time at the release party :D
[13:32] <Riddell> all thanks to Rabbie
[13:33] <shadeslayer> hahaha
[13:33] <shadeslayer> sigh ... this makes me want to switch to chromium http://i.imgur.com/z5uer.png
[13:34] <Riddell> nooo!  who else will forward our rekonq bugs?!
[13:35] <shadeslayer> heheh 
[13:35] <shadeslayer> i was just testing out their new notification stuff
[13:35] <Riddell> besides it wouldn't be a difficult feature to add to rekonq, it's part of the HTML5 spec I believe
[13:35] <shadeslayer> yep
[13:35] <shadeslayer> Riddell: its really up to gmail
[13:35] <shadeslayer> theyve enabled it for chrom* as of now
[13:36] <shadeslayer> thats google being evil i say
[13:36] <shadeslayer> using Jahvah in their phones
[13:36] <shadeslayer> not sharing v8 tech
[13:36] <shadeslayer> enabling kool features for chrom* and leaving out other browsers
[13:36] <shadeslayer> bbiab
[13:38] <Riddell> shadeslayer: how do you mean they've enabled it in chome?  you just go to the settings page in GMail and turn on notifications
[13:39] <shadeslayer> Riddell: yes, but if you read the blogpost ... its just available for chrome
[13:39] <shadeslayer> This functionality is currently only available for people using Google Chrome, but we’re working to make notifications part of the standard Web platform.
[13:40] <shadeslayer> Riddell: try commenting on this bug with rekonq https://bugs.staging.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rekonq/+bug/682959
[13:42] <Riddell> shadeslayer: gives me "[object Object]"
[13:42] <shadeslayer> sigh
[13:42] <shadeslayer> Riddell: adawit says it works for him ...
[13:42] <shadeslayer> doesnt work for me either
[13:42] <Riddell> is he using trunk kdewebkit?
[13:42] <shadeslayer> idk ....
[13:43] <shadeslayer> he did implement customRequest for 4.6
[13:43] <shadeslayer> which *should* fix this issue
[13:43] <shadeslayer> im sending him more debug logs
[13:44] <Riddell> damn, kdebindings failed on arm with evil looking error
[13:45] <Riddell> NCommander: able to have a look at that sometime? ^^
[13:45] <Riddell> at least qtwebkit build on arm
[13:47] <shadeslayer> yayy
[13:47] <shadeslayer> :)
[13:48] <shadeslayer> Riddell: http://paste.kde.org/3437 << any ideas what is going wrong?
[13:48] <shadeslayer> ive sent the same logs to adawit
[13:51] <Riddell> I've no idea
[13:51]  * shadeslayer cant see a customRequest being sent :S
[14:44] <shadeslayer> LOL
[14:44] <shadeslayer> Riddell: i think i found our issue
[14:44] <shadeslayer> webkitkde is outdate
[14:44] <shadeslayer> *outdated
[14:44] <shadeslayer> Version: 0.9~svn1127626-0ubuntu2
[15:33] <markey> Mamarok: got 4.6 final already?
[15:33] <markey> I somehow have the wrong repo active, I think
[15:33] <markey> beta, instead of backports, or so
[15:34] <markey> gonna fix that after lunch
[15:35] <shadeslayer> markey: you need backports for final 4.6 release
[15:35] <shadeslayer> beta backports is just for beta releases :)
[15:47] <markey> ah
[15:47] <markey> ok thx
[15:55] <Mamarok> markey: yes, since yesterday
[16:00]  * Riddell would really like to know why PyQt_qreal_double isn't working
[16:00] <Riddell> NCommander: what was all that stuff about Qt issus at the start of your meeting?
[16:03] <NCommander> Riddell: Qt is badly broken on ARM
[16:04] <NCommander> Riddell: and why I think KDE might not be working properly on ARM ATM either
[16:04] <Riddell> NCommander: what's broken about Qt?
[16:07] <NCommander> Riddell: it doesn't work right on ARM :-). Segfaults
[16:28] <Riddell> apachelogger: I think I'll just disable libqtscript-phonon in qtscriptgenerator
[16:34] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: i can haz moniez for Neon?
[17:17] <Riddell> shadeslayer: mono-devel compiles kdebindings 4.6 fine
[17:18] <shadeslayer> ok 
[17:18] <shadeslayer> i just switched it with mono-devel
[17:18] <shadeslayer> sadly i broke qyoto with my last upload
[17:18] <shadeslayer> and the builders are choked
[17:24] <shadeslayer>  !find shared_ptr.hpp
[17:38]  * Riddell uploads k3b, we are hal clean!
[17:38] <shadeslayer> yayy
[17:38] <shadeslayer> error CS0006: cannot find metadata file `/usr/lib/mono/qyoto/qt-dotnet.dll'
[17:38] <shadeslayer> sigh
[17:39] <skfin> RIP HAL
[17:39] <shadeslayer> hmm
[17:40] <Riddell> shadeslayer: see bottom of /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde4-profile/default/share/config/khtmlrc for the control key issue
[17:40] <shadeslayer> haaha
[17:40] <shadeslayer> Riddell: yeah i fixed it :P
[17:41] <shadeslayer> Riddell: http://paste.kde.org/3459/ << does that look like a packaging issue on our side?
[17:43] <Riddell> jr@gallus:~/src/4.6.0/kdebindings/kdebindings-4.6.0/debian>grep /usr/lib/mono/qyoto/qt-dotnet.dll *
[17:43] <Riddell> not-installed:./usr/lib/mono/qyoto/qt-dotnet.dll
[17:43] <shadeslayer> herp derp
[17:43] <Riddell> it wouldn't be needed when they were all in the same source but now they're separate I guess it is
[17:44] <shadeslayer> im wondering why is it not installed
[17:44] <shadeslayer> we isntall *everything*
[17:44] <shadeslayer> *install
[17:45] <shadeslayer> Riddell: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~neon/project-neon/qyoto-ubuntu/view/head:/project-neon-qyoto.install
[17:53] <shadeslayer> sigh
[17:53] <andrunko> Riddell, merged your tp-qt4 patch and made a new release, changed it a bit as the tests don't need to link against QtGui
[17:53] <shadeslayer> i have to manually add them
[17:54] <Riddell> andrunko: great, thanks
[17:55] <andrunko> thank you for the patch :)
[17:55] <Riddell> andrunko: is http://telepathy.freedesktop.org/wiki/Telepathy-Qt4 abandoned?
[17:55] <andrunko> probably, I don't remember last time someone updated it 
[17:55] <andrunko> will update
[17:56] <Riddell> andrunko: are Telepathy-Qt4 releases announced somewhere?
[17:56] <andrunko> Riddell, http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/telepathy
[17:59] <andrunko> Riddell, used git --author to apply your patch http://git.collabora.co.uk/?p=telepathy-qt4.git;a=commitdiff;h=58dab1461d66469c1b3092e91f78958ee133af94
[18:01] <Riddell> ooh I'll be famous :)
[18:01] <shadeslayer> hmm
[18:01] <shadeslayer> Riddell: can you test commenting on LP with konqueror and kwebkitpart?
[18:02] <andrunko> Riddell, hahah
[18:03] <Quintasan> Riddell: Do we even have any IM client which uses Telepathy?
[18:03] <andrunko> Quintasan, the guys on #kde-telepathy are working hard to make a release, you may want to check there
[18:08] <Riddell> Quintasan: indeed kde-telepathy bits are all still in development, it's been a long time coming but maybe it'll happen soon
[18:09] <Quintasan> I hope, Kopete is getting annoying and I can't find any better or similar alternative
[18:09] <Quintasan> or it will be Kopete with Telepathy support?
[18:09] <Quintasan> andrunko: ^. Also, who do thank for Kopete KRunner magic?
[18:10] <andrunko> Quintasan, no idea
[18:10] <andrunko> afaik kopete tp support is not maintained anymore
[18:11] <Quintasan> andrunko: so it will be an entirely new IM client?
[18:11] <andrunko> they are replacing it with new components, kde-tp-call-ui, kde-tp-msg-ui, etc
[18:11] <Quintasan> awesome
[18:11] <andrunko> Quintasan, I am not following kde-tp dev too much, I only support them by maintaining tp-qt4 :)
[18:12] <Quintasan> andrunko: Any place I can file a feature request?
[18:12] <andrunko> join #kde-telepathy, they should have all the info you need :)
[18:14] <shadeslayer> hmm
[18:14] <Quintasan> You broke something again shadeslayer?
[18:14] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: kdebindings is all sorts of messed up
[18:15] <Quintasan> sheytan: *poke poke*
[18:15] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: any idea how to make stuff install into /opt/project-neon from /usr/lib?
[18:15] <Quintasan> sheytan: That's nothing new.
[18:15] <shadeslayer> heh
[18:15] <Quintasan> sheytan: install files?
[18:15] <shadeslayer> tab complete fail
[18:15] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: not working
[18:15] <Quintasan> herp
[18:15] <Quintasan> sheytan: copypasta ur install
[18:16] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: http://paste.kde.org/3463/
[18:16] <shadeslayer> lol
[18:16] <shadeslayer> thats what is working
[18:16] <Quintasan> GOD DAMN U TABS
[18:16] <shadeslayer> everything else fails
[18:16] <shadeslayer> and we need those dll's for kimono
[18:16] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: why on earth some files get placed in usr? didn't u set the build path in rules?
[18:16] <shadeslayer> im pretty sure i saw something that could move files
[18:17] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: i did .. but dh_install --list-missing shows those files as missing
[18:17] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: I think it is broken
[18:17] <Quintasan> Why don't you just damn download the deb, do debc <package.deb>?
[18:18] <Quintasan> or "dpkg -X <package>.deb LOLTMP"?
[18:18] <shadeslayer> what would that accomplish?
[18:18] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: kimono needs the dll's
[18:19]  * shadeslayer runs magic through dh
[18:19] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: You would see if the files are there and dh_install --list-missing is no good or you are no good :P
[18:19] <shadeslayer> muwhaha
[18:19] <shadeslayer> im so awesum
[18:19] <Quintasan> Riddell: Can shadeslayer do something like "usr/lib/mono/gac/phonon/*/phonon.dll /opt/project-neon" in install files?
[18:19] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: already did
[18:20]  * Quintasan tried that in the past but it was working on a "lol random" mode
[18:20] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: usr/lib/mono/* debian/tmp/opt/project-neon/usr/lib/mono/*
[18:20] <shadeslayer> and vila
[18:20] <shadeslayer> *voila
[18:20] <Quintasan> I see what you did there
[18:20] <Quintasan> Pray it works all the time
[18:20] <shadeslayer> its magick
[18:21] <shadeslayer> yeah
[18:21] <shadeslayer> magic keeps neon together
[18:21] <Quintasan> MAGIK
[18:21] <Quintasan> how many times do I have to fix it for you?
[18:22] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: http://people.ubuntu.com/~quintasan/trollface/
[18:22] <Quintasan> use this
[18:22] <Quintasan> It's a stress reliver
[18:22] <shadeslayer> heh
[18:23] <Quintasan> Apparently, it leaks memory
[18:23] <Quintasan> Dunno how but apachelogger claims it is
[18:23] <shadeslayer> hmm
[18:23] <shadeslayer> how does one check the contents of a deb
[18:23]  * Quintasan c++'s skills are around 0
[18:23] <shadeslayer> kdebindings is making me krazy
[18:23] <Quintasan> debc <changes file>
[18:24] <shadeslayer>     trollImage = new QLabel;
[18:24] <shadeslayer> that leaks mem
[18:24] <shadeslayer>     QVBoxLayout *layout = new QVBoxLayout;
[18:24] <shadeslayer> too
[18:24] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: now fix ^^
[18:24] <Quintasan> How do I make it not to leak mem?
[18:24] <shadeslayer> :P
[18:24] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: set a parent widget to both of them
[18:24] <shadeslayer> so when the parent widget is destroyed their children are too
[18:25] <Quintasan> Parent widget? like what, QWindow?
[18:25] <shadeslayer> you allocate the QVBoxLayout and QLabel mem... but you do not delete them
[18:25] <Quintasan> wait
[18:25] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: whatever is your parent widget
[18:25] <shadeslayer> !find debc
[18:26] <shadeslayer> -.-
[18:26] <Quintasan> Isn't that Trollface::Trollface(QWidget *parent) : QWidget(parent) making the parent widget?
[18:26] <shadeslayer> thats the constructor!
[18:26] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: devscripts
[18:27] <Quintasan> I have to create a new QWidget and add the rest to it OR I can make em delete themselves?
[18:27] <shadeslayer> no
[18:28] <shadeslayer> QLabel trollImage = new QLabel(this);
[18:28] <shadeslayer> try that ^^
[18:28] <shadeslayer> oh
[18:28] <shadeslayer> QLabel *trollImage = new QLabel(this);
[18:29] <shadeslayer> stupid key doesnt get pressed properly
[18:29] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: same for QVBoxlayout
[18:29] <Quintasan> ?
[18:29] <shadeslayer> yep
[18:29] <shadeslayer> wel
[18:30] <Quintasan> also, how do I check for memeleaks? valgrind was it?
[18:30] <shadeslayer> you could create the Layout first and set the layout to be the parent of the label, but idk if the signature permits it
[18:30] <JontheEchidna> yay, sshaskpass and pinentry work again
[18:30] <Quintasan> wtf
[18:30] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: yep .. valgrind --full-mem-check
[18:30] <Quintasan> Segfaults on pressing button
[18:30] <shadeslayer> JontheEchidna: maverick?
[18:30] <JontheEchidna> natty
[18:31] <shadeslayer> awww
[18:31] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: backtrace?
[18:31] <Quintasan> lol
[18:31] <Quintasan> can't start from GDB
[18:33] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: How do I debug this stuff?
[18:33] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: http://paste.kde.org/3464
[18:34] <shadeslayer> http://paste.kde.org/3465/
[18:34] <shadeslayer> meh
[18:34] <shadeslayer> wrong package
[18:34] <shadeslayer> you have a breakpoint set
[18:34] <Quintasan> I didn't set anything
[18:34] <shadeslayer> Temporary breakpoint 1, main (argc=1, argv=0x7fffffffe0e8) at main.cpp:8
[18:34] <shadeslayer> :P
[18:35] <Quintasan> silly gdb
[18:35] <Quintasan> setting things without asking me
[18:36] <shadeslayer> http://paste.kde.org/3466/
[18:36] <shadeslayer> hmm
[18:36] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: whatcha think of that ^^
[18:37] <Quintasan> That it looks good? I don't know the structure of kdebindings now
[18:37] <Quintasan> I just build em or not :P
[18:37] <shadeslayer> hmmm
[18:38] <shadeslayer> im a bit confused about : " usr/lib/mono/* debian/tmp/opt/project-neon/usr/lib/mono/*  " or the other way round : " debian/tmp/opt/project-neon/usr/lib/mono/*  usr/lib/mono/*   "
[18:39] <Quintasan> wtf
[18:39] <Quintasan> ur pastebin.d for kde doesnt work shadeslayer
[18:39] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: huh
[18:39] <Quintasan> it says, Unknown service
[18:39] <Quintasan> Please file a bug if you want to paste.kde.org to be included
[18:40] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: put the config file in /etc/pastebin.d/
[18:40] <shadeslayer> and try
[18:40] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: 
[18:40] <Quintasan> http://paste.kde.org/3467
[18:41] <Quintasan> I can tell it fails at the if( stuff
[18:41] <Quintasan> I have an idea why but tell me :P
[18:42] <Quintasan> in4 crap code
[18:42] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: it fails as in?
[18:42] <Quintasan> segfaults?
[18:42] <shadeslayer> herp derp
[18:44] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: stop herping me and help me out lol
[18:44] <shadeslayer> heh
[18:44]  * shadeslayer is thinking
[18:44] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: im pretty sure you have a breakpoint set via qtcreator or something
[18:44] <Quintasan> I don't have qtcreator
[18:44] <Quintasan> lol
[18:45] <shadeslayer> something else is setting a breakpoint then
[18:45] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: can you try running the app from konsole?
[18:45] <Quintasan> zsh: segmentation fault  ./App1
[18:46] <ScottK> nixternal: Yes.  ~10 inches of heavy slushy snow that started just before the evening rush.
[18:46]  * Quintasan can't understand why he is having hard time with oop
[18:46] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: remove the this from QVBoxLayout
[18:46] <Quintasan> and pointers
[18:46] <ScottK> Just getting power back and things restarted.
[18:47] <shadeslayer> ScottK: can you help me with this install file issue?
[18:47] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: segfaults
[18:47] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: same line?
[18:47] <ScottK> shadeslayer: Maybe a bit later.  Power just cam back on and I'm trying to get everything restarted.
[18:47] <shadeslayer> ah :D
[18:47] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: dunno, it fails at the same thing
[18:47] <Quintasan> pressing the "Problem, officer?" button
[18:48] <Quintasan> which triggers Troll()
[18:48] <shadeslayer> wait .... they have power cuts in america? o_o
[18:48] <Quintasan> Which triggers trollImage->isHidden()
[18:49] <Quintasan> I bet it is something basic I'm forgetting now
[18:50] <Quintasan> Y U SEGFAULT TROLLFACE?
[18:50] <Quintasan> ...
[18:50] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: dude .. why do you use the whole QtGui class in the headers? o_o
[18:50] <Quintasan> Why not? Less to type
[18:50] <Quintasan> It's just a stupid app to troll users
[18:51] <shadeslayer> heh
[18:51] <Quintasan> which it does perfectly leaking mem
[18:51] <shadeslayer> increases compile time
[18:51] <shadeslayer> thats all im saying
[18:51] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: look at build queue
[18:51] <Quintasan> more importantly, what is wrong with source
[18:51] <shadeslayer> i want this to happen when we complete Project Neon
[18:52] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: It is stuffed by Python or PN
[18:52] <shadeslayer> :P
[18:52] <shadeslayer> wait
[18:52] <shadeslayer> koffice is building o_o
[18:52] <Quintasan> Not really hard to guess now that we started DAILY builds :P
[18:52] <shadeslayer> ah
[18:53] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: y u no help me fix the mem leak? :P
[18:53] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: i need full sources tar balled
[18:53] <shadeslayer> now upload somewhere
[18:53] <shadeslayer> and i shall download
[18:54] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/69524/trollface.tar.gz
[18:55]  * Quintasan bets the whole code is actually crap
[19:27] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: how about Java-KDE bindings?
[19:27] <shadeslayer> altho
[19:28] <shadeslayer> i will not maintain them in Project-Neon :>
[20:45] <ScottK> Riddell: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/62976003/buildlog_ubuntu-natty-armel.kdebindings_4:4.6.0-0ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz looks concerning.
[20:45] <ScottK> Any ideas on that?
[20:46] <ScottK> Maybe now that phonon is released apachelogger might look at it.
[20:46] <ScottK> In the mean time, I'm going to go figure out why the arm boxen didn't come back after we got power back.
[20:58]  * Trouble` joins Harald Sitter's Groupies :D
[21:38] <apachelogger> oh
[21:38] <apachelogger> eh
[21:38] <apachelogger> *shrug*
[21:38] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: what for?
[21:38] <apachelogger> KDE should just be redone in java period
[21:42] <DarkwingDuck> apachelogger: while we are at it can we toss in some perl?
[21:43] <apachelogger> -.-
[21:43] <DarkwingDuck> lol
[21:43] <apachelogger> actually there were perl bindings at some point
[21:43] <DarkwingDuck> But why Java?
[21:43] <DarkwingDuck> Yeah... figured that.
[21:43] <apachelogger> anyhow, adding new bindings is rather trivial with smoke magic
[21:43] <apachelogger> all sorts of wicked that smoke thing is
[21:43] <DarkwingDuck> Da
[21:44] <ScottK> Because we need to use something evil and not-sufficiently-free so Gnome will have a reason to exist.
[21:44] <ScottK> apachelogger: Any thoughts on the bindings problem on armel?
[21:44] <Riddell> ScottK: no :(  bug 708714
[21:44] <apachelogger> ScottK: I wonder what that gtk plunder is really
[21:46] <yofel> java? kill java with fire! please!
[21:47] <apachelogger> :O
[21:47] <apachelogger> yofel: are you asking to be kicked or something?
[21:47] <yofel> or someone fix https://launchpad.net/~neon/+archive/ppa/+buildjob/2192839
[21:47] <apachelogger> unbelivable!
[21:48] <yofel> although LP is probably to blame there
[21:49] <apachelogger> ScottK: I blame that on sip or the pykde sip files
[21:49] <apachelogger> there is nothing odd about that function at all
[21:49] <apachelogger> returns QList<double>
[21:49] <apachelogger> also it holds a QList<double>
[21:50]  * apachelogger wastes some precious disk space that could be used for pr0n on kdebindings
[21:54] <apachelogger>     QList<double>           majorTickMarks () const;
[21:54] <apachelogger> from the sip file
[21:55] <apachelogger> oh
[21:55] <apachelogger> hold on
[21:55] <Riddell> apachelogger: yes but as I say in bug 708714 that shouldn't matter
[21:56] <apachelogger> yeah
[21:56] <apachelogger> ha!
[21:56] <apachelogger> Riddell: the interesting bit is how this affects akonadi actually
[21:57] <apachelogger> maybe they assign the return value to QList<qreal>
[21:57] <apachelogger> that ought to fail I suppose
[22:02] <apachelogger> ./akonadi/akonadimod.sip:%Import kdeui/kdeuimod.sip
[22:02] <apachelogger> ./kdeui/kdeuimod.sip:%Include kplotaxis.sip
[22:02] <apachelogger> righto
[22:03] <apachelogger> still kplot* does not touch qreal at all
[22:10]  * apachelogger is clueless why sip falls over
[22:25] <ScottK> apachelogger: The armel boxen are back up and running if you need to test build something.
[22:55] <Riddell> apachelogger: I couldn't see any notable difference between kdebindings 4.6.0 and 4.5.90 which compiled fine
[22:56] <Riddell> so it's probably something in sip or pyqt
[22:56] <Riddell> but it does rather screw up any hope of having arm for alpha 2
[23:01] <debfx> does kdesudo have a maintainer?
[23:02] <ScottK> debfx: It is formally Tonio, but he hasn't been around much. 
[23:10] <apachelogger> Riddell: my bets are on sippy
[23:14] <debfx> ScottK: that's unfortunate, I have a fix for bug #400851
[23:15] <debfx> would be nice to push a new release
[23:15] <apachelogger> anyone on natty around?
[23:15] <debfx> ScottK: could you open the tasks on the bug
[23:16] <apachelogger> debfx: do you haz commit access to kdesudo?
[23:16] <ScottK> I think Riddell might.
[23:16] <debfx> apachelogger: yep laptop runs natty and I don't have commit access
[23:17] <apachelogger> ditch me the patchy then, so I can apply it up the stream
[23:17] <apachelogger> debfx: also, does amarok start with phonong-gstreamer?
[23:19] <debfx> apachelogger: yes it starts fine
[23:20] <debfx> but crashes when I want to search for new codecs
[23:22] <debfx> apachelogger: http://paste.kde.org/3498/
[23:26] <apachelogger> oh :O
[23:26] <apachelogger> debfx: got a backtracy?
[23:26] <apachelogger> debfx: looking at the patch I just remembered that someone should redo kdesudo with proper formatting :P
[23:26] <apachelogger> and bring it upstream to KDE
[23:29] <debfx> apachelogger: I haven't installed the debug package
[23:30] <apachelogger> debfx: well, install them :P
[23:30] <apachelogger> mr dbginstaller actually can help you with that
[23:30] <apachelogger> oh how I love that nice fella
[23:31] <debfx> apachelogger: can it also speed up my internet connection? :/
[23:31] <debfx> downloading with 30 kb/s ...
[23:32]  * apachelogger waves his fist in the general direction of kdesudo
[23:32] <apachelogger> debfx: oh dear
[23:32] <apachelogger> now that is slow
[23:32] <apachelogger> like back in the old days
[23:34] <CIA-40> [kdesudo] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110127233418-vf5oumngwhqn8rru * (debian/changelog kdesudo/kdesudo.cpp) Fix password encoding problem (LP: #400851) Patch donated by Philip Muškovac.
[23:36] <debfx> apachelogger: I haven't changed my name but that's okay :D
[23:37] <apachelogger> whoops
[23:38] <apachelogger> debfx: sry
[23:38]  * apachelogger should go to bed apparently
[23:38] <CIA-40> [kdesudo] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110127233853-cphp47ryqge21hli * debian/changelog Patch donated by Felix Geyer.
[23:40] <debfx> apachelogger: no problem, I think you can delete the debian/ folder anyway
[23:41] <apachelogger> yes yes
[23:41] <apachelogger> dreadful upstreams and their debian folders :P
[23:42] <debfx> indeed, we are a bad upstream to ourselves ^^
[23:47] <ScottK> New kdepim needing packaged ...
[23:49] <maco> ScottK: is it getting akonadi-kmail?
[23:50] <ScottK> No.  4.4.10
[23:50] <maco> ohok