=== MuzerAway is now known as Muzer === mren is now known as mren|off === pablo_ is now known as pab|0 === Muzer is now known as MuzerAway [00:57] Having problems with desktop effects causing slow response to keys and mouse scroll, anyone willing to discuss? === djesi is now known as applebandit === applebandit is now known as mangobandit [01:19] #opEgy! [01:55] I just finished upgrading from kubuntu 10.04 to 10.10 and it reported an error. I opened a terminal and tried to apt-get install -f to fix things... but I get http://pastie.org/1501142 [02:05] anyone knows how we change font colors in mplayer? [02:05] using config file [02:32] hi, too bad i have to uninstall kubuntu, its getting to slow for my poor machine, i really like it, but, i have no choice but to go back to my old xubuntu ;-! [02:37] hello, i'just installed kubuntu 10.4. I cant conf my home theater 5.1 [02:37] someone can help me? [02:43] so, uh, the panel and stuff is frozen. I can still do alt-f2 to start programs (which is what I did to start irc). what is the command I need to pass through terminal to restart that aspect? [02:43] I know its restart, but don't know the program name [02:44] i can never find that command when i need it either [02:44] sometimes i just have to restart kwin [02:45] which is kwin --replace but not sure if that will work for you [02:45] it says unknown job for kwin [02:45] try in the rn command dialog [02:46] rn? [02:46] run* [02:46] did there first, didn't do anything [02:46] hrmmm [02:46] you cant use a browser? [02:46] probably can. [02:47] Yep [02:47] can even switch workspaces [02:47] sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start <--- not sure about that [02:47] that restarts the whole desktop manager [02:49] kicker is the name of it I think [02:49] or not [02:49] lol [02:56] just flat out did sudo restart kdm [02:57] lol [02:57] kicker is the panel at the bottom but i thought by "and stuff" you meant kwin also [02:58] i think kicker --restart would have worked [02:58] or not [02:58] oh, not restart kicker? [02:58] guess this is the blind leading the blind [02:58] * DarkriftX shuts up [02:58] hahaha [02:59] i dont really use the gui for much except for chrome and xchat [02:59] everything else i use terminal. [02:59] Well, either way, you suggested restarting kdm, and that worked. [02:59] overkill, but glad it worked lol [02:59] *shrugs* I'm not complaining [02:59] lol [03:00] if not a "sudo reboot now" will always work lol [03:00] but yeah, I use the panel for monitoring my battery, cpu usage, and the time [03:00] i have a big 4in wide panel on the right for that crap [03:01] but it also had a huge blurry rectangle covering the bottom right corner of my screen which kinda bothered me [03:01] cpu/temps/disk activity/bandwidth [03:01] oh, i get those a lot [03:02] i get wallpaper showing thruogh my apps when a tooltip type window goes away [03:02] have to move the window around to make it redraw === chris_osx_ is now known as chris_osx === chris_osx is now known as chris_bsd === ubuntu is now known as legodude [04:10] LIST [ []] === jocelyn is now known as me === me is now known as Guest42862 [04:42] sysinfo [04:43] i loaded the option for amarok to show vidoes but it isn't loading them ny idea? [04:44] Error 5: dependency not met: gawk not found in path [04:48] привет всем === Guest42862 is now known as flvinamarok [05:14] !ru [05:14] Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке / Pozhalujsta posetite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke [05:27] excuse me [05:27] i want to join into a project on kubuntu [05:28] anybody have team? [05:28] if you don't objection, can i join? [05:53] i4ba1: sure [05:53] what would you like to do? [06:08] i like to research and coding [06:25] hello [06:26] Hello [06:26] can i join in kubuntu project? [06:31] sure! [06:32] please see http://www.kubuntu.org/community/contribute [06:34] are you developer susundberg [06:34] ? [06:35] i4ba1: you can help out in #kubuntu-devel [06:36] well i consider myself as a passive tester (by using developers version and reporting bugs) [06:37] And i do try to give support in irc-net ;) [06:47] Hello, I've got a problem with openDesktop and the social network [06:48] I've put my login in system configuration [06:48] and when I return, they 've gone [06:48] so i can't use the community plasmoid [06:48] I add that i don't use KWallet [06:49] has anybody the same problem ? [07:15] well, kwallet is the way to store your passwords [07:15] if you don't want to save them, then you'll have to put them in over and over again [07:16] hi I am having a problem with connecting to the internet using wifi... [07:16] my os is karmic koala [07:16] could u help me [07:16] !wifi [07:16] Wireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs [07:16] hope that helps, because I don't really know much about it, myself [07:16] ok thanks will try :) [07:37] sup peeps - why does screen goto sleep/suspend while watching a movie (dragon player) ?? [07:46] anybody alive [07:53] !anybody | tech-mike [07:53] tech-mike: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? [07:56] jhohn, i did - "sup peeps - why does screen goto sleep/suspend while watching a movie (dragon player) ??" === sean is now known as Guest29164 [08:00] screensaver? [08:03] *sleep/suspend/screensaver -- why though if im watching a video, with media playing it should not be idle timing [08:07] if you use vlc, there is a setting for this [08:09] or use caffeine: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1465436 [08:11] vlc is a great choice - just thought id test the defaults beforing having to replace [08:15] hi [08:16] is there any way to install gnome desktop environment in kubuntu by using ubuntu cd? [08:16] DhaniJeremy: only if it's alternate cd [08:17] ok... [08:17] DhaniJeremy: but if you have internet connection, the installation is easy [08:17] is it possible to add a directory to the apt source? [08:18] no need to, simply install ubuntu-desktop package [08:18] Tm_T: i think that is only if i have a fast internet connection [08:18] DhaniJeremy: how fast you got then? === root is now known as Guest54406 [10:14] hi [10:14] can anybody recommend me some math chat ? [10:14] because I need some quick help with calculus and matrices [10:23] fdg, do a /list math [10:24] and see what you come up with [10:24] or google for calculus IRC channel [10:24] thanks, but im new with irc can you tell me where to type the /list ? [10:24] "/msg alis list *math*" would be better [10:24] IRC commands use a slash as the first character on the line, followed by the command [10:25] /list math would not work [10:25] like /nick newnick, etc. [10:25] sure it does [10:25] maybe in _your_ client [10:25] ah, well, true [10:25] sorry [10:25] i have to type it here ? [10:25] but if you give an argument to /list, /list just shows the output for that channel [10:25] interesting, tsimpson [10:26] you can type it here if you want; we won't see it [10:26] yup, I tried, so where then ? [10:27] fdg: /join #calculus [10:27] hey that was cool :) [10:27] thanks [10:34] is there a way to tell kde to log out from the command line? Something analogous to "init 0" but after closing the session cleanly? [10:34] Hi, this is KDE 4.5.3 on Ubuntu Lucid started by KDM. When I select shutdown, reboot or even log-out (end session) from a K-Menu, nothing happens. ~/.xsession-error does not show anything in these moments. Where do I start looking? [10:34] some time ago I filed this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase-workspace/+bug/459695 At that time I solved the problem by using KDM instead of GDM. [10:34] Ubuntu bug 459695 in KDE Base "KDE has not Shutdown/Restart buttons if started from GDM" [Unknown,Fix released] [10:43] amgarching: what happens if you press Alt-F2 ? [10:44] Tm_T: k-runner or whatever the name is pops up to eneter the command. [10:45] anyone have this issue with libreoffice taking so long to open on Kubuntu 10.10 [10:47] amgarching: if you try to run "logout" in there? === FireCrotch is now known as nickmoeck [11:17] hi all! I have an odd question: is it possible to install KDE4 4.6 packages from kubuntu ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports to debian testing? [11:17] synaptic says it can upgrade a lot packages, but in the end it says a lot will be broken and wants to remove them [11:18] CuBeW0rK: Normaly it won’t work, because kubuntu uses experimental packages and so some of the deps can’t be installed [11:20] anf if I tell apt -t maverick ? [11:21] too bad I badly need 4.6, but don't have time for a full system reinstall :( [11:22] CuBeW0rK: I guess that the debian team will build upon the kubuntu packaging and so they hopefully have it in a few days [11:23] debian itself won't build new packages untill Lenny is not out [11:23] there's a "semi official" repository, but that updates weeks later too [11:25] CuBeW0rK: maybe in experimental? [11:25] experimental still has 4.5.3 iirc [11:25] omg [11:28] indeed [11:28] # stable (codename lenny) KDE 3.5.10 [11:28] # testing (codename squeeze) KDE 4.4.5 [11:28] # unstable (codename sid) KDE 4.4.5 [11:28] CuBeW0rK: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation. [11:29] "Latest news": August 24, 2010 As Squeeze has been frozen, Debian will ship Squeeze with KDE 4.4.5. Unstable repos will have 4.4.5 too until Squeeze release. KDE 4.5.x will be available via other repo some time later. [11:31] selam [11:31] burada türklerde var mı ? [11:32] !en | agropesus [11:32] agropesus: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList [11:32] thanks [11:33] agropesus: out of curiousity, which language did you use? [11:34] turkhis triends [11:34] friends === Philip6 is now known as Philip5 [11:47] if someone here also means, s.m.a.r.t notifyer is a "must have" for KDE to warn before your HDD crash, please vote for this bug: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=254313 [11:48] KDE bug 254313 in general "kinfocenter should show S M A R T and notify if a Disccrash is near" [Wishlist,Assigned] [11:48] i only save my data, cause i try gnome-shell and installed gnome... first thing, that gnome notify is, that my hdd will crash soon... on KDE i never have an notify about this [11:50] i think... SMART notifyer is an absolutly "MustHave" for each WM === mren|off is now known as mren [12:16] is there anyone who can talk about installation files? [12:17] on the kubuntu-ppa/backports [12:17] Tm_T: Alt-F2 + logout has no effect. This prints a new line and nothing happens: /usr/bin/qdbus org.kde.ksmserver /KSMServer logout 0 2 0 [12:18] so ye, I had similar issue some time ago, but cannot remember what it was (: [12:20] http://pastebin.com/xTrhYQJ5 this is the output of "strace /usr/bin/qdbus org.kde.ksmserver /KSMServer logout 0 2 0" I see nothing obvious [12:20] Tm_T: was if starting KDE from GDM? [12:20] amgarching: no, with KDM [12:23] Hi guys!!! I want to report a missing files on the server (ppa/backports)... [12:23] Is there anyone here wha I can talk to? [12:25] bertoldofonseca: #kubuntu-devel might be better place for that (: [12:28] thanks Tm_T [12:56] Why is the 32 Bit version of 10.10 the one that is "Recommended" ? and not the 64 Bit? [12:57] because that will work on all systems so users don't get confused about downloading an image that doesn't work on their systems. Also, it doesn't require 32bit compatibility libraries and wrapping as for flash, skype, etc. === yofel_ is now known as yofel [13:00] I see. But if I have Core 2 with 6GB Ram I "should" use 64 Bit, correct [13:01] if your pc is 64 bit, yes [13:02] OK [13:02] but then maybe is better dvd install i got errors with cd [13:02] ciao [13:03] hi [13:03] JuJuBee: you dont `have` to... as far as I know you can access all 6 gigs of ram on a 32bit kernel (though it needs spical options set), but each application can use more then 3-4 gig of ram... on the other hand, 64bit is simpler :) [13:04] iulain: dvd just contains more packages... no point in using it unless you want to install it on something wiht no internet... best to use the alternitive if your having problems with the cd [13:05] mno idea maybe on cd some files missin thats why is recomended check md5 but... [13:06] I tried the upgrade from 10.04 to 10.10 last night and something didn't go so well... Gonna do clean install now... things are a bit wonky [13:06] JuJuBee: what went wrong? [13:08] james147: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1676257 [13:10] hello everyone; i've got a small question: where exactly (filesystem location and kubuntu packet if possible) is the default air theme for plasma stored? [13:10] not air-netbook, but the plain default air [13:10] i haven't been able to locate it with find (don't know what to look for exactly) === syl is now known as Guest51481 [13:16] Hello! Who can help me? Why i cant move files on desktop (manual sort) KDE SC 4.6? [13:17] Widget "Folder view" [13:17] alexmaco: probally /usr/share/apps/desktoptheme/ [13:18] Hi all [13:18] alexmaco: ^^ seems to be the "default" one for me (name is in the metadata.desktop in each of the theme folders) [13:19] Hey BluesKaj [13:20] hi [13:20] i installed the new kde. in kmix i pressed a little x button and when i bring it up now, the screen is gray (no volume bars appear) How can i fix it? [13:21] people help please.... [13:21] Guest51481: hmm, dont see a "manual sort" here, "unsorted" is there though... and can move them. have you tried removing the folder view and readding it? [13:21] Guest51481: Give us time :) [13:22] james147: thanks, found it (was /usr/share/kde4/apps/desktoptheme) [13:22] Goliath, make sure alsa-base and alsa-utils are installed [13:22] alexmaco: yeah, thats probally it (sorry, currently on my arch box so my paths are a little different [13:23] BluesKaj: its ok [13:23] i just pressed an x that removed the hda intel device from kmix [13:23] Guest51481: (although i am still on rc2, so think might... although unlikly... have changed... will update now and see if anything is different [13:23] until this time everything was normal. now I can `t the mouse to drag the labels on the widget"Folder View" [13:24] Guest51481: ^^ have you removed and readded the widgeT? [13:24] yes [13:25] Guest51481: then could you create a new user and see if it works for them? [13:25] its not work [13:25] ok, now try [13:27] so i pressed the x near the new tab button in kmix, and the screen in kmix is gray. how can i fix it? [13:27] Goliath: try adding a new tab again [13:27] the button is missing now [13:28] for the new tab [13:28] Goliath: :S [13:28] james147: is there any way to restore kmix defaults? [13:28] try reinstall kmix [13:28] i did that also [13:28] didnt fix it [13:28] the settings are saved somewhere [13:28] maybe in my home dir [13:28] Goliath: you can try resetting kmix settings by renaming ~/.kde/share/config/kmixrc [13:29] james147: can i just remove that? [13:29] iulain: reinstall shouldnt be need, or help at all, if its a user level config problem [13:29] ful remove package setiings is in config files [13:29] Goliath: you can [13:29] Goliath: (renaming backs it up however) [13:29] with new user works normal... [13:29] then install kmix again [13:30] is there a way to restore bootsplash in ubuntu 10.4 [13:30] Goliath, I don't bother with kmix, alsamixer is easier more flexible and overides all kmix settings anyway [13:30] ^^ so its best to rename and delete later if all went well (though its only kmix ;) ) [13:30] james147: should i reinstall package after i remove the file? [13:31] Guest51481: then its probally also a bad config file :) you can reset plasma-desktop to its default settings by renaming ~/.kde/share/config/plasma* (all files begining with plasma that is) [13:31] Goliath: no [13:31] yes but make sure you have backup copy to this file [13:31] ok thanks [13:31] Goliath: kmix will create it if it dosent exist on next run [13:31] Goliath: "killall kmix && kmix" should restart it [13:32] try full remove config files also with synaptic first [13:32] Goliath: iulain: Re installing kmix will do NOTHING... its jsut a user level config problem [13:32] Goliath: rename that file i told you to and restart kmix, or log out and back in [13:33] k [13:33] yes but some copmponenets of missing drivers is saved in config files [13:33] let me try it [13:33] hey, does anyone know if there is a ppa which provides the lion mail plasmoid? [13:33] iulain: why does kmix care about missing drivers for a closed tab? [13:34] iulain: best to do the safer and easier option of remiving a userlevel config before reinstalling anything === Guest54406 is now known as faLUCE [13:35] * james147 notes that a reinstall is rarly required in linux... at most a reconfig should fix it (sudo dpkg-reconfigure .. but that wont help here since its a suerlevel config which dpkg wont touch) [14:08] hi everybody, I'm on Kubuntu 10.10 with latest KDE SC 4.6. Aptitude says that I have an obsolete or self-created package "hotkey-setup". Is this package really obsolete, which one replaced it? [14:09] the system was upgraded at least since Kubuntu 8.10 [14:09] I downloaded the 10.10 64Bit iso and tried to boot, but every time I boot, it goes to the (initramfs) prompt stating an error mounting /dev/Loop0 [14:09] Am I better off with the Alternate CD? [14:10] I have never needed to use Alternate before. [14:10] JuJuBee: run the cd check [14:10] JuJuBee: and check the md5sum of the iso [14:10] ok, let me go stick it back in a machine... [14:11] Where on site is the md5? [14:12] JuJuBee: http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/download [14:12] Ah, way at the bottom... [14:13] md5 checks out [14:14] hey i installed the new kde+kernel and i get an error msg on login saying: an audio device (alc888) seems to have been removed (Input&output). How can i fix that? [14:14] JuJuBee: then run the cd check === cafenet is now known as bogor_b_hot [14:27] james147: CD Check's ok [14:28] hmm [14:29] JuJuBee: well, you could try burning it again, but I do not know if it will help (or better yet, install it to a flash drive with usb-creator) or you can try the alternitive cd [14:31] I never used usb-creator. Can I do that directly from the iso? [14:32] JuJuBee: usb creator will install a *ubuntu iso to a flash drive to make a live usb [14:32] !liveusb [14:32] For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent [14:33] Hmmm can I use the persistent one to do installs? [14:35] JuJuBee: yeah, just means it saves settings to the usb [14:35] but other wise acts as the livecd === bigbrovar_ is now known as bigbrovar [14:43] hy [14:43] any speek?? [14:43] james147: done with usb, rebooting. Thanks for the tips... be back later... with good news hopefully... [15:20] :) [15:48] i have a 6.04 desktop that does not have access to the internet (so i'm not as concerned about security updates) - is there a way to install software from the repositorie archives using only a CD? [15:58] rtdos: Do you mean Dapper ( 6.06 ) or Jaunty ( 9.04 ) ? [16:02] it looks like my bigger disk partition which i set up for home isn't being used, while the small one is fillign up [16:02] how do I fix this [16:05] ecinx: is the home drive listed in /etc/fstab [16:09] hey guys... I've enabled the kubuntu backports ppa but after doing a refresh it only shows me the kde 4.5 updates... do I have to enable Pre-release or Unsupported updates to get kde 4.6 [16:10] rtdos: you may be able to add the cdrom to the repository sources list [16:21] james147: Finally got 10.10 installed from the disc t hat wasn't working. The USB just hung and the alternate had errors.. [16:22] iojfsd]f [16:22] fipdsjf [16:22] sao]pdjkas [16:22] f [16:22] sads [16:22] ucenik26: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation. [16:22] adsa [16:22] d [16:22] sad [16:26] do you got these errors after retstart [16:26] restart* [16:28] is there a way to install vlc 1.1 on 10.04 (not installing from ppa) ? [16:28] *10.04LTS [16:30] Freyr: you can always compile from source [16:30] ^^ though that breaks the idea of an LTS... since your no longer using super stable stuff :p [16:31] james147:thanks. [16:38] genii-around: Dapper (6.06) - i have kubuntu installed on a machine with only 128Meg RAM & 700MHz Celeron CPU and 12G Hard Drive (very very low specs). it was mainly a windows 98se machine but now i use it mainly for games (mostly text based) and to practice shell scripting. it does not have internet access and upgrading to a newer distro would be pointless on this machine. [16:38] where would i d/l the archived packages / repositories for 6.06 ? === ralsina is now known as ralsina_lunch [16:50] rtdos: Apologies on lag, work required me. You can use a cdrom as a repository by adding it with apt-cdrom, or by making a manual entry in sources.list . As for trying to download the entire repository, you're looking at about 30-35Gb. Also it's not archived yet because 6.06 server is still active and supported [16:51] sorry, i'm trying to do 2 things here at once: i'm not looking at downloading the whole repository, just certain packages. [16:52] After fresh intsall of 10.10 I have no audio it seems. Any help? [16:54] !audio [16:54] If you're having problems with sound see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3 [16:55] JuJuBee: run "alsamixer" see if any of the chanels are muted [16:56] just front mic === ralsina_lunch is now known as ralsina [17:05] !info apt-offline dapper [17:05] 'dapper' is not a valid distribution: hardy, hardy-backports, hardy-proposed, jaunty, jaunty-backports, jaunty-proposed, karmic, karmic-backports, karmic-proposed, kubuntu-backports, kubuntu-experimental, kubuntu-updates, lucid, lucid-backports, lucid-proposed, maverick, maverick-backports, maverick-proposed, medibuntu, natty, natty-backports, natty-proposed, partner, stable, testing, unstable [17:05] Hm [17:23] should i use qt4 or qtcurve as gtk theme in kde? [17:34] hey is there a package for kde, that partially lights up the windows at taskmanager when you hover over them with your mouse? [17:37] when the daily build with kde 4.6.0 stable? [17:38] Hi, does anyone know why when I am trying to open presentation file with openoffice the system logs off? === ralsina is now known as ralsina_afk [17:43] is it possible to fix open office? [17:47] mantas_Newbie: could you try creating a new user and testing it with them [17:55] ok ill try [17:57] @james147 btw.. the thing is that i can create a new file... but i cant open saved one. [17:58] do you have added any script ? [18:06] <92AAB8HU9> james147 the same with new user [18:07] ok tell us system log off or just cant safe file ? [18:08] <92AAB8HU9> i downloaded presentation from internet.. and i just cant open [18:08] <92AAB8HU9> it [18:08] <92AAB8HU9> it loads file for a few seconds [18:08] <92AAB8HU9> and when system logs off [18:08] <92AAB8HU9> and my name changed:/ === 92AAB8HU9 is now known as mantas_Newbie [18:10] ok do you have added any script ? [18:10] no [18:10] ok [18:10] i dont play with scripts atm [18:11] cuz exam period;) and i cant risk with that:D [18:11] maybe saved files is just virtual saved and when log off after this they gone [18:11] but i dont save [18:12] i donwload [18:12] ummm... [18:12] i think i will come to this problem later.. [18:13] maybe now i should instal microsoft office to virtual machine? [18:13] no no [18:13] as i need to study whole night for tomorrows exam:/ [18:13] i have windows xp on virtualbox [18:13] so maybe it wont take much time just to instal office [18:15] mantas_Newbie: you can try koffice, also make sure you are upto date. [18:16] can you open files you have saved? [18:16] i didnt try i didnt need it yet [18:16] now i just need lesson presentation;) [18:19] i will try koffice if it doesnt work... i think im going to windows this time [18:20] mantas_Newbie@ testing [18:25] algum progamador C? [18:26] !ciao [18:26] !list [18:26] This is not a file sharing channel (or network); be sure to read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot » [18:27] !list [18:28] !ciao [18:28] !hallo [18:28] !it | nerio [18:28] nerio: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette) [18:30] hello, did I set this up right? [18:30] crud how do I change my name in this... [18:30] /nick === ubuntu is now known as gaurdianAQ [18:30] thank you [18:31] I don't use irc very often so I'm not very knowledgeable... [18:31] So is there any chance someone here might be able to help me with some grub issues... [18:31] It's more important to have fun. [18:32] Also I hope I wasn't intruding on anyones conversation... [18:34] !ask | gaurdianAQ [18:34] gaurdianAQ: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) [18:36] Anyways what I was hoping I could get help with, is recently I switched back over from windows, to linux... I was planning on setting up a dual boot, but I forgot that the simpler way to do it would have been to install windows first and then kubuntu after so that grub picks up windows, but I forgot since it's been a while and I installed windows after, now grub has been overwritten... How hard would it be to reset up grub without wiping kubuntu off and [18:36] reinstalling... or would it just be better to reformat, I hadn't yet installed many programs so it wouldn't be to much of a hassle. [18:37] gaurdianAQ: This channel is frequently inactive for hours at at time. It's also the nature of IRC that multiple conversations can be going on simultaneously. To continue a thread, preface your comment with the nick of the intended recipient, as I've done for you in this one. [18:37] gaurdianAQ: It's pretty easy to do what you describe. [18:38] DarthFrog: Alright and sorry for asking to ask a question [18:38] DarkFrog: Did I do that right? lol I feel like such a noob... [18:38] gaurdianAQ: We were all newbies once. [18:38] !grub | gaurdianAQ [18:38] gaurdianAQ: grub is the default boot manager for Ubuntu releases before 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - GRUB how-tos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto - See !grub2 for Karmic onwards. [18:38] !grub2 | gaurdianAQ [18:38] gaurdianAQ: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 [18:39] ^^ thats probally the one you want :) [18:39] As usual, james147 is correct. :-) [18:39] * james147 notes they share the link you want anyway... [18:39] Ok then I wasn't sure if Ubuntu had switched over to grub2, I remember reading somewhere that not all distros had switched [18:40] gaurdianAQ: Kubuntu was one of the first to use GRUB2. [18:42] DarthFrog: Really, well I was using Ubuntu before, but when I realized installing 64 bit was a bad idea I decided to give KDE a try, I g2 admit I'm loving KDE over GNOME, so DarthFrog, when I'm typing does the message appear with the orange background as it does for me when you type to me? [18:45] @DarthFrog: Thanks guys, I'll check this out after lunch, I'm gonna sign off this now. [18:45] @james147: Thanks for your help as well! [18:46] !Ciao [18:46] !List [18:46] This is not a file sharing channel (or network); be sure to read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot » [18:47] Why does ubuntu not have the latest versions in the package manager? [18:47] eh????? [18:47] hi, are the kmail address books working for you? i've some address books in kaddressbook, but kmail doesn't show any address of them when i try to send an email..... should i have to install some extra packages? [18:47] I am trying to insall postgresql and the package manager think the latest verion was 8 something when they are on 9 [18:48]