[16:29] <manfredrasta> hi all
[16:29] <manfredrasta> anybody can help  me?
[16:29] <bioterror> maybe
[16:29] <bioterror> !ask | manfredrasta
[16:29] <manfredrasta> Im trying to conect my laptop to the tv
[16:30] <manfredrasta> where can i find the screen settings?
[16:33] <manfredrasta> bioterror, no idea?
[16:34] <bioterror> screensettings
[16:34] <manfredrasta> bioterror, sorry?
[16:34] <bioterror> menu -> preferences -> display settings
[16:34] <bioterror> ?
[16:35] <manfredrasta> bioterror, I have monitor settings
[16:35] <manfredrasta> bioterror, but there it talks about resolution...
[16:35] <bioterror> and?
[16:35] <manfredrasta> bioterror, nothing about conect to the tv
[16:35] <manfredrasta> Im trying to conect my laptop to the tv
[16:35] <bioterror> HD15, HDMI, DVI what
[16:36] <manfredrasta> what is this?
[16:36] <manfredrasta> I use a video cable
[16:36] <bioterror> exactly
[16:36] <manfredrasta> those yellow
[16:36] <manfredrasta> like with the play station
[16:36] <bioterror> that's called component
[16:37] <manfredrasta> the cable is called component?
[16:37] <bioterror> sorry
[16:37] <bioterror> it's composite
[16:37] <bioterror> component is three cables, red,green and blue
[16:37] <manfredrasta> I just have a yellow one
[16:37] <manfredrasta> conected to the laptop and to the t v
[16:38] <manfredrasta> now I have to find the settings in the laptop
[16:38] <manfredrasta> do you understand?
[16:38] <bioterror> you dont have a hd15(aka vga)?
[16:39] <manfredrasta> is that the video card?
[16:39] <bioterror> yep
[16:39] <manfredrasta> I think so but not sure. how was it to check it?
[16:39] <manfredrasta> ls?
[16:40] <bioterror> are you using laptop
[16:40] <manfredrasta> yep
[16:41] <bioterror> http://spider.georgetowncollege.edu/t3/smartboard_files/image002.jpg the one in the middle is HD15 aka VGA
[16:41] <bioterror> that BLUE one
[16:41] <kosaidpo-|> hello guys
[16:42] <bioterror> does your tv support computer-in?
[16:42] <bioterror> is it a LCD tv?
[16:42] <bioterror> or are you using CRT
[16:42] <manfredrasta> I can watch my other laptop with windows in the tv
[16:42] <manfredrasta> it is an old tv
[16:42] <manfredrasta> i use an euro conector
[16:42] <manfredrasta> as with the play station
[16:42] <bioterror> ahh, scart
[16:43] <manfredrasta> to the laptop I use a yellow jag cable
[16:44] <manfredrasta> to the tv I conect a yellow jag cable to an euro conector and that to the scart
[16:44] <manfredrasta> with jag i mean minijag
[16:45] <bioterror> there's really no good guide howto get composite out
[16:45] <bioterror> and to be honest, your hardware is really ancient for todays techonology ;)
[16:47] <bioterror> http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/RGB_Scart
[16:47] <manfredrasta> look at this: http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRWWZ3SxeebNhTdMth9cEGl-5CPf7zEWUWIgCOrVQuyX-2aIT9E&t=1
[16:48] <manfredrasta> is the yellow one on the left
[16:48] <bioterror> probably
[16:48] <manfredrasta> not probably, is that one
[16:48] <manfredrasta> so, dont know where those monitor settings are?
[16:48] <bioterror> http://www.computergear.co.uk/userfiles/image/Composite.jpg this one is actually not that supported
[16:49] <manfredrasta> Why?
[16:49] <bioterror> http://www.chinapans.com/images/hdmidvi.jpg this is year 2011
[16:50] <manfredrasta> ok
[16:50] <manfredrasta> and if i use one of those
[16:50] <manfredrasta> then where will i find the settings in the laptop?
[16:50] <bioterror> I pasted that mythtv url
[16:50] <bioterror> read it
[16:51] <manfredrasta> ok
[16:53] <bioterror> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaTVOut
[16:54] <kosaidpo-|> bioterror: is there any way to change the name of my machine ??
[16:54] <bioterror> kosaidpo-|, change network settings
[16:55] <kosaidpo-|> bioterror: in whxih file ?? /etc/host ??
[17:02] <kosaidpo-|> bioterror: the backpots repo are meant for the future vesion is it ??
[17:02] <kosaidpo-|> as in for 11.04 ?
[18:14] <bioterror> manfredrasta, did you get it working?
[21:04] <esing> hi :)
[21:04] <esing> HOw much space should give the partition /home ? I have 80 gb in total on my hdd
[21:05] <esing> I want to encrypt my /home partition too :)
[21:05] <bioterror> dont encrypt
[21:05] <bioterror> it doesnt work
[21:06] <esing> heh :)
[21:06] <esing> thx
[21:06] <esing> would you recommend to make partitions?
[21:06] <bioterror> yes and now
[21:07] <bioterror> I'm a huge fan of two partitions
[21:07] <esing> :D
[21:07] <bioterror> 2x RAM for SWAP and rest for /
[21:07] <esing> hehe
[21:07] <esing> would you recommend me to make 2x ram partitions too iam a normal ordinary pc user
[21:07] <esing> who watches TV, uses Internet and office :)
[21:07] <bioterror> well
[21:08] <esing> :D
[21:08] <bioterror> okay
[21:08] <bioterror> is that laptop?
[21:08] <esing> yus
[21:08] <bioterror> yes?
[21:08] <esing> thinkpad t43
[21:08] <esing> :)
[21:09] <bioterror> then I would suggest
[21:09] <bioterror> if you're going to hibernate
[21:09] <esing> but I never have much user data like my videos & music stuff never exceed 20 gb
[21:10] <bioterror> when you hibernate your laptop it will write RAM to swap
[21:11] <esing> hmm
[21:11] <esing> what do you mean by hibernateE
[21:11] <esing> i turn off my laptop every day
[21:12] <esing> i think i give my /home folder 30 gb
[21:12] <esing> mb less :)
[21:12] <bioterror> http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/articles/hibernate_linux
[21:13] <bioterror> I just suggest you to use whole hard drive
[21:13] <bioterror> easier
[21:14] <esing> mhm
[21:14] <esing> ok
[21:14] <esing> I just created the /home drive
[21:14] <esing> should I delete it agaiN?
[21:15] <bioterror> why you want it to be separate
[21:15] <esing> first i wanted it to be seperated because of encryption
[21:15] <esing> i only wanted to encrypt /home
[21:16] <esing> secondly (which i dont care much) is the use for formating only the system not /home
[21:16] <bioterror> okay
[21:16] <esing> why do you think encrypition sucks?
[21:16] <bioterror> give 15G for /, 2x RAM for the SWAP and rest for /home
[21:17] <bioterror> 15GB is way too much for the /, but you never know :D
[21:17] <esing> hehe
[21:17] <bioterror> my whole lubuntu is 15GB /
[21:17] <esing> is hibernating very usefull?
[21:17] <bioterror> esing, some people do like it, I'm a suspend guy
[21:18] <bioterror> phillw, do you suspend or hiernate your piglet when you take it with you?
[21:18] <esing> hm
[21:18] <esing> i think iam the suspend guy too
[21:18] <esing> i never used hibernating with windows
[21:18] <bioterror> yep
[21:19] <esing> so I wont need those extra partitions
[21:19] <esing> :)
[21:19] <esing> but why do you think encryption doesnt work?
[21:19] <esing> slows my laptop too much?
[21:21] <esing> anyways
[21:21] <esing> after setting my /Home for 40 gb
[21:21] <esing> i have 40 gb left
[21:21] <esing> how can I put the remaining 40 gb to the system space?
[21:22] <esing> there is the " free space 40 gb" :: should I just press installation?
[21:22] <bioterror> 40GB is alot for /
[21:22] <esing> ye mb
[21:23] <esing> bioterror :D
[21:23] <esing> tell me why you dislike full encryption :)
[21:23] <esing> I thought it is very good against physical attacks
[21:24] <bioterror> becouse there's problems with it in lubuntu
[21:24] <bioterror> trying to recall which those was
[21:24] <esing> should I put the bootloader in SD1 or /dev/sda ATA WDC (my hdd)
[21:24] <esing> Ah I see
[21:24] <esing> then I will install everything in one thing
[21:24] <bioterror> GRUB goes to /dev/sda
[21:24] <esing> because I wont need partitions without encryption
[21:24] <esing> k thx
[21:24] <bioterror> no numbers
[21:24] <bioterror> but still
[21:25] <bioterror> I think you should give ~10GB for /
[21:25] <bioterror> T43, I think you have 1GB of RAM
[21:25] <bioterror> so 2GB for SWAP and rest for /home
[21:25] <esing> what if I download something which has 20 gb I couldnt download it on /home
[21:25] <esing> why 2 gb for swap when I dont use hibernating?
[21:26] <esing> i have 1,5 gb ram btw
[21:26] <esing> :)
[21:26] <esing> got t43p
[21:26] <bioterror> nice, 1400x1050
[21:26] <esing> yus
[21:26] <bioterror> my wife has t40p ;)
[21:26] <esing> heh awesome :)
[21:26] <esing> what r u using?
[21:27] <bioterror> at the moment Dell Latitude D420
[21:27] <bioterror> close to X40, I think
[21:28] <esing> nice
[21:28] <bioterror> esing, well, even tho you're not going to hibernate, if some program decides to leak RAM, you still have swap
[21:28] <esing> x40 is awesome aswell,  with the latitude d420 iam not familiar but I guess latitude is good due of many business people use it
[21:28] <bioterror> the situation isnt lost and you can have some control to kill applications
[21:29] <esing> i see
[21:29] <bioterror> yep, this is my worklaptop
[21:29] <esing> i like lubuntu much
[21:29] <esing> it looks very clean
[21:29] <bioterror> hope you understand what I ment by having some RAM
[21:29] <bioterror> for just in case
[21:29] <esing> yea sure
[21:30] <esing> in german we call it " auslagerungsspeicher"
[21:30] <esing> :)
[21:30] <esing> when ram is full in use it puts some stuff on space
[21:30] <esing> but I started the installation 5 minutes ago
[21:30] <esing> because I need to get finished before 23:00 :D
[21:30] <bioterror> :D
[21:31] <bioterror> lubuntu installation takes about 20mins
[21:31] <esing> ah perfect
[21:31] <bioterror> actually every distribution can be installed in 20mins
[21:31] <esing> yus
[21:31] <bioterror> except gentoo if you do it with stages
[21:31] <esing> why didnt the lubuntu developers fixed the encryption?
[21:31] <bioterror> and sourcemage or what ever those linux from scratch kinda distros are
[21:32] <esing> lubuntu has only a different desktop environment but the rest would be ubuntu wouldn it
[21:32] <esing> and with ubuntu encryption works
[21:32] <esing> :=)
[21:33] <esing> btw
[21:33] <bioterror> ahh, it's a bug in LXDM
[21:33] <esing> did you see how much is going on in northafrica ^^
[21:33] <esing> ah I see LXDM is the fault :D
[21:33] <bioterror> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/maverick/+source/lxdm/+bug/635698/+activity
[21:34] <esing> but therefore my laptop wont slow down without encryption
[21:34] <esing> I actually dont need encryption
[21:34] <bioterror> good
[21:34] <bioterror> I had encrypted home
[21:35] <bioterror> I dont anymore :D
[21:35] <esing> ^^
[21:35] <bioterror> I was making backups and I got bad sectors while making 'em
[21:35] <esing> how long does take a backup?
[21:35] <bioterror> do you have now that 3-4GB SWAP?
[21:35] <esing> nah I dont :P
[21:35] <esing> :)
[21:36] <bioterror> how much you put for the swap?
[21:36] <esing> nothing
[21:36] <esing> I just pressed normal installation
[21:36] <esing> I made no partitions
[21:36] <bioterror> you chose "use whole hard disk2?
[21:36] <esing> yep
[21:36] <esing> :)
[21:36] <bioterror> nice ;D
[21:36] <esing> hehe
[21:37] <esing> Maybe it is creating a swap too with the normal installation
[21:37] <bioterror> yes it is
[21:37] <esing> ah good
[21:37] <bioterror> esing, when you're done with the installation, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ check that. we've made it for you new users
[21:38] <esing> good I do so
[21:38] <esing> thx
[21:46] <esing> best about linux/lubuntu is that it is free
[21:47] <esing> you can use it all over the world, fast installation
[21:47] <esing> many free programs
[21:48] <esing> i.e. gimp
[21:48] <bioterror> yep
[21:48] <esing> for adobe photoshop you pay +150 euros
[21:48] <bioterror> for CS you pay some more
[21:48] <esing> yus
[21:49] <bioterror> I do some photo editing
[21:49] <bioterror> I used have a Mac and CS2
[21:49] <esing> nice
[21:49] <esing> but now gimp is totally sufficient?
[21:49] <bioterror> but I noticed that I can do the same with linux and GIMP
[21:49] <esing> hehe
[21:49] <esing> :D
[21:49] <esing> *awesome :D
[21:50] <bioterror> open picture, resize, do some curves tweaking, save (for web, as it saves color changes ;)
[21:50] <bioterror> esing, you've got invitation
[21:51] <bioterror> to the #lubuntu-offtopic
[21:51] <esing> thx
[22:42] <esing> I want to install Google Earth on Lubuntu
[22:42] <esing> there comes a window up saying that it will harm other packages
[22:42] <esing> is this np?
[22:44] <esing> bioterror you still here ?
[22:44] <esing> :)
[22:44] <bioterror> y
[22:44] <esing> can I accept the changes to the other packages?
[22:44] <esing> when installing google earth
[22:44] <bioterror> what?
[22:45] <esing> nvm ^^
[22:45] <bioterror> :D
[22:45] <bioterror> I've heard nvm many times today
[22:45] <esing> *G*
[22:45] <bioterror> not just you
[22:45] <esing> hehe
[22:49] <esing> bioterror
[22:49] <esing> didnt you tell me not to use the freeJAVA?
[22:49] <esing> 2 days ago or so
[22:50] <bioterror> probably
[22:50] <esing> is commonjava the free version of java?
[22:50] <esing> (that is the name of the package in synaptci)
[22:50] <bioterror> nope
[22:50] <esing> ah k so I can keep it
[22:50] <esing> :)
[22:50] <esing> thx
[22:50] <bioterror> it's sun-java6-{bin,jre,plugin,fonts}
[22:50] <esing> so I can delete it?
[22:51] <bioterror> sudo apt-get purge commonjava
[22:51] <esing> sudo apt-get remove commonjav
[22:51] <esing> purge better?
[22:51] <bioterror> yes
[22:51] <bioterror> it's same as sudo apt-get remove --purge
[22:52] <esing> okay
[23:03] <esing> ive deleted the menu
[23:03] <esing> how can I recover it
[23:07] <esing> *g*
[23:07] <esing> managed it myself
[23:07] <esing> thx
[23:08] <esing> how can I delete a folder in the menu ?
[23:09] <esing> *calling* bioterror
[23:15] <bioterror> esing, szczur will assist you ,)
[23:15] <esing> *calling* szczur
[23:15] <bioterror> if he's awake
[23:16] <esing> damn ^^
[23:16] <esing> bioterror it is the last thing
[23:16] <esing> then I wont disturb you today anymore ^^
[23:16] <esing> *G*
[23:16] <szczur> bioterror, front and center
[23:16] <esing> :D
[23:18] <bioterror> good night ;)
[23:18] <esing> good night bioterror :D
[23:18] <esing> szczur *calling*
[23:18] <esing> szczur how can I delete a submenu?
[23:18] <esing>  like "games"
[23:19] <szczur> to remove folder in menu you would need to remove every entry in it
[23:19] <szczur> entries are made by addint an activator to /usr/share/applications
[23:19] <szczur> activator is something like a shortcut
[23:20] <szczur> so if i would have a menu called "things" and in this menu would be an entry called Gedit
[23:20] <szczur> removing the activator for getind would remove the entry i think
[23:20] <szczur> but i may be wrong
[23:20] <szczur> lemme try this
[23:20] <szczur> hang on
[23:21]  * szczur is installing lxpanel
[23:21] <esing> :D
[23:23] <szczur> hmm, there is easier way
[23:24] <szczur> you can edit a /etc/xdg/menus/lxde-applications.menu
[23:24] <szczur> and remove the parts you don't want
[23:24] <esing> awesome
[23:24] <esing> I will try immediatly
[23:25] <szczur> lemme try this, before i will start to remove my files
[23:25] <szczur> wait
[23:25] <szczur> don't do anything
[23:25] <szczur> before i wont do this to myself
[23:25] <szczur> you will be fine
[23:25] <esing> ok sir :)
[23:25] <szczur> i can recover my system :P
[23:25] <esing> :P
[23:27] <szczur> yayz
[23:27] <szczur> it worked
[23:27] <esing> perfect thx :D
[23:27] <szczur> http://pastebin.com/iCGYscU5
[23:27] <szczur> for example
[23:27] <szczur> i removed this part
[23:28] <szczur> and i don't have "Others" entry anymore
[23:28] <szczur> this should be self-explainable
[23:29] <esing> hm
[23:29] <esing> my submenus are in german
[23:29] <esing> the file shows them in english
[23:29] <szczur> should work either way
[23:29] <szczur> lemme check something
[23:30] <szczur> ok confirmed
[23:30] <esing> and how would I change only one application?
[23:31] <szczur> my entry was in Polish. "Others" means "Inne"  and this entry was removed
[23:31] <szczur> for only one application
[23:31] <szczur> wait
[23:32] <hblount> hi. how do i delete a shortcut in the menu? the "start menu" like thing
[23:33] <szczur> esing, for removing on eapplication remove the file in /usr/share/application
[23:34] <szczur> /usr/share/applications*
[23:34] <esing> ah k, and what if I want only the shortcut to be delete and not the app?
[23:34] <szczur> that will remove the enttry
[23:34] <szczur> not the app
[23:34] <esing> k
[23:35] <szczur> esing, but wait one more time
[23:35] <szczur> there's a program called alacarte
[23:35] <szczur> also knoiw as gnome menu editor
[23:36] <szczur> i'll try if it works with lxpanel
[23:36] <szczur> this would be even easier
[23:36] <szczur> if not, removing the files in applications folder would be the way to go
[23:37] <esing> yus
[23:38] <szczur> you can use alacarte
[23:38] <szczur> it will be easier
[23:38] <szczur> for you
[23:38] <szczur> :)
[23:38] <szczur> sudo apt-get install alacarte
[23:38] <szczur> but unticking the entries wil not work
[23:38] <szczur> you have to remove them
[23:39] <szczur> same thing applies to hblount
[23:40] <esing> k
[23:40] <esing> so i do it the way u mentioned before
[23:40] <esing> damn my back hurts :/
[23:40] <esing> i was too much on computer today i fear
[23:41] <szczur> :)
[23:45] <esing> can i edit the file off th shell either
[23:46] <esing> because with vi it troubles me too much
[23:47] <szczur> you can use nano
[23:47] <szczur> or gedit
[23:47] <esing> ah nano i remember
[23:47] <szczur> or whatever you want
[23:47] <szczur> :)
[23:48] <esing> thanks :)
[23:49] <esing> it worked
[23:49] <hblount> so delete the folder in usr/share?
[23:50] <esing> hblount you want to change submenus or the menu on the taskbar?
[23:50] <hblount> i want to delete shortcut in the "start menu"
[23:50] <esing> ok
[23:50] <esing> click right click on the taskbar
[23:51] <esing> then panel properties
[23:51] <esing> then panel more
[23:51] <esing> there you can add and delete any shortcuts on the taskbar
[23:52] <hblount> u mean "panel preferences"?
[23:52] <esing> yes
[23:52] <hblount> i dont see anything that lets me remove/delete shortcuts
[23:53] <szczur> hblount, let me specify, you'd like to remove entries in LXPanel menu (the "start" menu)
[23:54] <szczur> if so, use alacarte, and delete the entries you want to remove
[23:55] <hblount> oh. sorry i thought it didnt work. esing is doing something different than me
[23:55] <hblount> i guess
[23:55] <hblount> thanks
[23:55] <szczur> if you want to remove whole submenu, edit /etc/xdg/menus/lxde-applications.menu file
[23:55] <szczur> and remove part you don't want to see
[23:57] <hblount> i have to use command line for alacarte?
[23:58] <szczur> you can run it from terminal
[23:58] <szczur> but it is graphical editor
[23:58] <szczur> so there's no thing to worry about