doctormolfaraone: hey, you want me on linked-in?01:14
lfaraonedoctormo: yessir.01:19
doctormolfaraone: Done sir, how are you?01:27
lfaraonedoctormo: quite fine, thank you.01:27
lfaraonedoctormo: yourself?01:27
doctormolfaraone: Seemingly busy all the time, but not much to show for it. Must be background work.01:28
lfaraonefair enough.01:28
doctormolfaraone: Any fine projects?01:29
lfaraonedoctormo: nothing "fine", per se. wrote a replacement for purity, ugly ugly code. wrote a tiny application for multifactor authentication via cellphones, but didn't yet have time to dos o securely.01:30
doctormolfaraone: Sounds fancy, for Debian?01:32
lfaraonedoctormo: for Science, actually. But I'll put it in Debian when I'm done with the project01:35
doctormolfaraone: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgR3N8y4boQ01:35
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dholbachgood morning08:01
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bdrungdholbach: you could put the harvest script in a separate branch (and add the license header). then everyone can improve it until it can go into ubuntu-dev-tools.09:19
bdrungdholbach: 2) i made some changes to the sponsors-overview.09:20
gesergood morning09:22
bdrunggood morning09:24
dholbachhi bdrung, hi geser09:26
dholbachbdrung, maybe later - this week I'm pretty slammed with other stuff09:26
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LaneyScottK: If you have 2 minutes today, could you look at haskell-utf8-string in natty/binary NEW? Thanks.10:11
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kklimondais it just me or is the test rebuild being done on ppa builders10:40
Laneywhat's wrong with that? That seems like a reasonable thing to do.10:41
kklimondaare they being done with a lower score, or will I have to wait 4 days to build my stuff? :)10:41
kklimondaLaney: sure, but I was surprised when I saw 16k jobs in the builders queue10:42
Laneyi would hope they are scored down10:42
kklimondayeah, they have to have lower score10:44
sebrockcan someone help me create a backport?10:47
kklimondasebrock: sure, just ask10:51
kklimonda(the questions :))10:51
sebrockkklimonda: its the package openswan. The current lucid package has a bug which makes it useless with L2TP. So basically my VPN service which utilizes IPSec/L2TP does not work. Err.. it works for one login thereafter it has to be restarted. version 2.6.26 in Maverick solves this. Oh and I have a AMD64 arch.10:52
sebrockkklimonda: so the question is if someone can build openswan 2.6.26 for 10.04 amd64?10:53
sebrockkklimonda: did that cover it?10:55
* persia idly wonders what was wrong with the answer in #ubuntu-packaging10:56
kklimondasebrock: sure10:56
* kklimonda wonders why there are no binaries for openswan 1:2.6.28+dfsg-110:57
kklimondafor maverick*10:57
ubottuIf new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they may go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging10:57
sebrocksorry persia, I was suggested to post in both these channels on #ubuntu10:58
persiasebrock, Quick overview: read the wiki page, file a bug, do a test (prevu tends to be good for this), and report your results to the bug.10:58
sebrockkklimonda: would you be able to do it for me?10:58
persiaDoesn't suprise me.  The distinction between them isn't always clear.  This one is dedicated to work *on* Ubuntu, and the other is about Packaging with Ubuntu, Ubuntu derivatives, etc.10:58
kklimondasebrock: I can see if package builds without changes, and if so upload it to ppa:kklimonda/backports10:59
sebrockkklimonda: that would be great10:59
persiaOught still work towards proper backports so people don't have to find arbitrary PPAs :)10:59
sebrockkklimonda: 2.6.26 is the version I'm looking for10:59
sebrockI've tried to contact the maintainer but he does not answer me11:00
kklimondapersia: sebrock can request an official backport, but I can't upload to the backporters ppa anyway, and he has to test it somehow.11:00
kklimondasebrock: can it be 1:2.6.28+dfsg-1?11:00
persiaMakes sense :)11:00
sebrockdunno, possibly there are more new dependencies on that one11:01
sebrockbut I can always try it11:01
sebrockkklimonda I would suggest 2.6.2611:01
kklimondasebrock: 2.6.28 builds fine, but I can't do a one magic command trick for 2.6.26 :)11:03
sebrockkklimonda you mean 2.6.26 does not build?11:03
kklimondathere seems to be a problem with openswan in maverick11:03
kklimondasebrock: well, it should build but I'd have to dig out source from LP11:03
sebrockthere is no source for it?11:04
kklimondapersia: also, when backporting is there a rule to backport the newest version available in concurrent releases, or can we backport any version we choose?11:04
sebrock2.6.26 is the version in maverick right now no?11:04
sebrockor am I missing somethig11:05
kklimondasebrock: yes - but there has been 2.6.28 upload, which didn't build for some reason11:05
sebrockhmm.. I'm confused. You have built .26 or .28?11:05
persiakklimonda, My understanding is that we're supposed to backport something current in the archives, but I'm not sure that blocks maverick->lucid backports during natty development.  That said, I'm not a backporter: if the backport policy on the wiki page posted above doesn't say, you'll want to ask someone on the backporters team.11:06
sebrockkklimonda: which package did you manage to build?11:08
kklimonda2.6.28+dfsg-5 from natty11:09
kklimondaI think I can also build 2.6.28+dfsg-1 from maverick11:09
sebrockbut 2.6.26 from Maverick is a no go?11:09
kklimondawell, it can be done, but it would have to wait a while. Plus, I'm not sure if we can backport it.11:10
persiasebrock, The 2.6.26 in maverick doesn't have accompanying source, sadly.11:10
kklimondapersia: well, it can be fetched from LP11:10
persiakklimonda, Oh, good.  I was very worried for a bit there.11:10
sebrockpersia: ok11:11
kklimondait's actually an interesting problem11:11
sebrockkklimonda so how shouls we proceed? In "wait for a while", is that weeks?11:11
kklimondaI wonder what did happen with 2.6.28 for maverick11:11
kklimondaScottK: can we backport a package from maverick that got superseeded by a never version that was never published in maverick? the package is openswan11:12
sebrockif you managed to backport 2.6.28 to 10.04 amd64 I can try it out11:12
sebrockyou got a link?11:12
sebrockbrb, telephone11:13
sebrockkklimonda I can try out 2.6.2811:13
kklimondait has 3 dependencies, so they should also be checked if we are actually backporting it11:14
kklimondasebrock: can you make an official backport request for openswan from natty to lucid?11:15
kklimondasebrock: I've uploaded it to https://launchpad.net/~kklimonda/+archive/backports, it should build in an hour or so (depending on how busy builders are)11:15
kklimonda(when you report it we can actually track testing somewhere - it should help a little)11:17
sebrockkklimonda I can do that. LP handles that right?11:17
kklimondasebrock: yes - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports#How%20to%20request%20new%20packages outlines the process11:18
sebrockok great11:18
sebrockin order to get your package I add it to my sources or is it possible to manually get the deb?11:19
sebrockah right I see now11:19
sebrockI'll report back11:19
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sebrockkklimonda: are you able to also build 1.2.6 of xl2tpd for 10.04? Seems the current version does not cooperate with openswan 2.6.28 very well11:54
kklimondasebrock: I'll see12:01
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kklimondasebrock: it built fine, I've uploaded it to the same location12:07
sebrockthanks will check it out12:07
sebrockkklimonda: do I have to do something special to get it into my sources, apt-get update does not do anything12:16
sebrockie, I already have your PPA in there12:16
sebrockyeah its ignoring your repo12:17
kklimondasebrock: it shouldn't12:19
kklimondasebrock: what do you mean by ignoring?12:20
sebrockit is, I guess the diff is null12:20
kklimondasebrock: xl2tpd hasn't yet built, so nothing has been published yet12:20
sebrockoh I thought it had12:20
kklimondait may not yet have been published12:21
sebrockno indication when it has?12:21
kklimondasee the result of apt-cache policy openswan12:21
kklimondait should show that there are two versions available - one of them from ppa12:21
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sebrockkklimonda: got it. However I'm sad to say that it still has the same bugs13:36
sebrockI should file a bug for that first :(13:36
kklimondasebrock: there is a newer version in natty, you can test it13:36
sebrockYeah, but I'm certain the actual bug is in openswan13:37
kklimondaah, I see13:37
sebrockThank you very much for your help13:38
kklimondano problem13:38
* kklimonda hugs backportpackage13:38
sebrockIts people like you who makes this so great :D13:38
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ari-tczewbdrung, tumbleweed: could you have a look on http://paste.ubuntu.com/559009/14:13
tumbleweedari-tczew: so did you install debian-keyring?14:14
ari-tczewtumbleweed: not yet14:14
ari-tczewtumbleweed: but error message is ugly :)14:14
tumbleweedari-tczew: that's true :)14:14
ari-tczewtumbleweed: report bug for it?14:16
tumbleweedari-tczew: sure14:17
ari-tczewtumbleweed: with debian-keyring works fine. is it in depends or something?14:20
tumbleweedari-tczew: suggests, IIRC14:22
* ari-tczew is off to doctor.14:22
sebrockso how do I remove a PPA from lucid?14:46
al-maisansebrock: remove ppa? look in /etc/apt/sources.list.d14:47
sebrockyes I saw that, but will removing the file remove the PPA completely?14:47
kklimondathere is also ppa-purge in lucid-backports14:47
sebrockseems ppa-purge is not available on lucid14:48
sebrockkklimonda: I could not find it14:48
kklimondasebrock: you still have to remove all packages (or downgrade them) manually14:48
al-maisansebrock: do a "apt-get upgrade" afterwards?14:48
sebrockI've removed them14:48
kklimondasebrock: then you are all set14:48
sebrockI mean I want to remove the source14:48
kklimondajust delete the file, and do apt-get update14:48
kklimondasource of what?14:48
al-maisansebrock: oh sorry yes s/upgrade/update/14:49
sebrockI figured that out myself :P14:49
sebrockalright it seems to have worked...14:49
sebrockstrange there is a command to do that small task14:49
kklimondawell, there is a ppa-purge :)14:50
kklimonda(you have to install it by hand in lucid though, or enable backports)14:50
sebrockok Im trying to build a package here. it says I should set: --disable-md5 --disable-sha1 --disable-sha214:51
sebrockwhere do I set that?14:51
sebrockdebian rules or whatever...14:52
Laneywhat's 'it'?14:52
RhondaIn the configure switches in debian/rules14:52
sebrockso I invoke configure with them switches?14:52
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RhondaMost probably, but that still depends on what "it" is and the likes. It's just a guess based on the minimum information that you offered us.14:53
RhondaYou see, the more information, the mor accurate the answers could be. :)14:53
sebrockit is a blog post14:53
RhondaIt is pretty explicit on what to change.14:54
Rhonda"Now edit debian/rules and change … to …"14:54
sebrockexplicit would be the name of the file to edit14:54
sebrockthis assumes knowledge of editing debian rules14:54
RhondaBut it carrys the name of the file to change.14:55
RhondaNo, it doesn't.14:55
sebrockam I blind?14:55
Rhondadebian/rules is a filename.14:55
sebrockah I see14:55
sebrockI thought it was a name14:55
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RainCTbdrung: http://paste.debian.net/105852/16:06
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udienzari-tczew, alive?16:31
udienzabout merge firestarter. i found that a desktop file contained errors16:32
ari-tczewudienz: nope16:32
udienzi'have checked with desktop-file-validate16:32
udienzcan i patching it?16:32
ari-tczewudienz: if you have right fix, please patch and note in d/changelog in separate star *16:38
ari-tczewunder information about merge16:39
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udienzari-tczew, bug 694413 ready to review18:02
ubottuLaunchpad bug 694413 in firestarter (Ubuntu) "Merge firestarter 1.0.3-9 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/69441318:02
ari-tczewudienz: News accepted.18:04
ari-tczewwill take a look when have a time18:04
udienzari-tczew, okay. i will wait18:04
ari-tczewudienz: do you know how fix that FTBFS? [LD_ERROR] misc.c:229: undefined reference to `log10'18:15
ScottKkklimonda: You want to backport 1:2.6.26+dfsg?18:16
udienzari-tczew, that must be a libs not placing after object18:16
udienzor a needed libs placed to end18:16
ScottKkklimonda: If nothing else it can be done as a direct upload.18:16
ari-tczewudienz: I got similiar error during build erlang (main)18:17
ari-tczewyou can try to merge it from unstable and fix ftbfs18:17
udienzok, i'll loking18:17
kklimondaScottK: not anymore as it doesn't work as it should but the question remains - can I backport from any newer release, or should I backport from the most recent release/development one?18:18
kklimondaScottK: If I can backport from any more recent release what happens in situation when (for example) I want to backport to lucid package from maverick that enables feature A, and then someone else wants a release from natty that enables feature B, and disables a feature A? ;)18:19
cjwatsonundefined reference to `log10'> as the log10(3) man page explains, "Link with -lm"18:24
ari-tczewudienz: ^^18:24
shadeslayerim a bit confused about : " usr/lib/mono/* debian/tmp/opt/project-neon/usr/lib/mono/* "18:41
shadeslayeris that the right way to move files from usr/lib/mono to other dirs?18:41
ScottKkklimonda: You can backport from any newer release.18:41
ari-tczewudienz: if you like, try to link -lm as cjwatson suggested on package tstools18:56
udienzari-tczew, okay. still downloading :(18:57
ari-tczewudienz: ah, right, king size18:57
udienzand my connections is very bad tonight18:57
broderScottK: if you have a moment, could you glance at bug #708757? i think this should be an easy one19:46
ubottuLaunchpad bug 708757 in maverick-backports "Please backport libpipeline (1.1.0-1) from natty to lucid, maverick" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/70875719:46
ScottKbroder: Approved.19:48
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bdrungRainCT: please pull the latest version of lp:ubuntu-dev-tools and test again.20:28
ari-tczewudienz: new comment added on firestarter20:29
ari-tczewneeds fixing20:29
bdrungari-tczew: please file a bug requesting a nicer looking error message.20:29
ari-tczewbdrung: ah yea, I forgot20:29
ari-tczewbdrung: for this time while I'm reporting bug, you could take a quick work on bug 708695 :>20:34
ubottuLaunchpad bug 708695 in avogadro (Ubuntu) "rebuild with python-numpy 1.5.1" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/70869520:34
bdrungari-tczew: in a few minutes after sqeezing the last performing bits out of my buddy implementation20:35
ari-tczewbdrung: bug 70886220:36
ubottuLaunchpad bug 708862 in ubuntu-dev-tools (Ubuntu) "[pull-debian-source] Ugly error" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/70886220:36
ari-tczewbdrung: I guess that there are more bad looking errors in scripts.20:37
bcurtiswxdoctormo, what would you think of allowing ground control to work when you have nautilus open with another server.. i.e. I connect-to-server to my desktop which is where i store all the bzr gets, groundcontrol still works since i've got nautilus up... or would it if i have ground control on the desktop?22:22

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