[03:16] <dewman> mrand, have you had any luck with getting any digital music channels?
[03:16] <dewman> with the hdhr scan?
[03:18] <dewman> freaking jamu... seems it has crashed 3 times in the past hour....Think its time to figure out how to remove it.
[03:18] <dewman> or disable it.
[04:39] <rhpot1991> dewman: check silicon dust's website and it will tell you what channels you can get
[04:39] <rhpot1991> those silly music channels are normally available
[09:42] <skiwithpete> ola
[09:42] <skiwithpete> I need help, anyone around?
[09:44] <skiwithpete>  I've just installed myth - and through all the trouble shooting, discovered that mysql is not running
[09:45] <skiwithpete> Oh, yeah, I'm running XFCE
[09:47] <skiwithpete> ...
[09:48] <skiwithpete> dammit, living in NZ means there's never anyone here
[09:55]  * skiwithpete twiddles thumbs
[10:04] <skiwithpete> hey
[10:46] <skiwithpete> ... I fixed the database problem by installing mysql-server
[10:46] <skiwithpete> but now i can't get mythweb to work :(
[11:26] <Lala_Chersi> hi there i ve installed myth tv in ubuntu cant set it right for my tv card ... any ideas
[11:30] <DaveMorris1> which card have you got
[11:30] <DaveMorris1> and how have you set it up?
[11:34] <Lala_Chersi> well i ve got msi tv@ny where plus .... internal tv card
[13:16] <DaveMorris1> Lala_Chersi: sorry for the delay, meetings at work
[13:17] <DaveMorris1> Have you got it to work in Ubuntu outside of MythTV to make sure you have the correct drivers etc?
[13:17] <DaveMorris1> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linuxquestions-org-member-success-stories-23/linux-mint-3-0-msi-tv%40nywhere-great-success-579640/ has someone doing it on mint (which is very similar to Ubuntu)
[13:20] <Lala_Chersi> DaveMorrisl : yeah it works on xawtv
[15:10] <mrand> dewman, I actually haven't played around with higher numbered channels yet.  I've got some HDMI audio (and video, for that matter) problems I'm more focused on with the few spare minutes a week that I have.
[15:24] <qwebirc28476> Hello, I have Intel Pentium 4 CPU 2.80GHz old computer that I would like to use with Mythbuntu for my home setup with Comcast digital cable. I’m new to this and don’t know what kind of hardware I should additionally to buy to make it happen, and what the setup should be. Can you help with this?
[15:26] <rhpot1991> qwebirc28476: HD or SD video?
[15:27] <Patrickdk> heh, that will only do SD
[15:27] <rhpot1991> Patrickdk: unless he adds a VDPAU capable card
[15:27] <Patrickdk> I don't think he can, it should only be agp
[15:28] <rhpot1991> pci
[15:28] <Patrickdk> they make them in pci? heh, how evil
[15:29] <rhpot1991> harder to find, but they do exist
[15:29] <rhpot1991> not sure anything in the current gen, but something that will do vdpau at least
[15:30] <Patrickdk> well, I picked the gt2xx series for it
[15:30] <Patrickdk> cause others have strange bugs
[15:30] <Patrickdk> and before the gt[345]xx came out
[15:31] <Patrickdk> then testing vdpau, I found I didn't really like using it at all
[15:31] <rhpot1991> odd
[15:31] <rhpot1991> its pretty easy to enable and use, I wouldn't build anything without it anymore
[15:31] <Patrickdk> it can't play back any video I throw at it, without going nuts every few min
[15:32] <rhpot1991> define going nuts
[15:32] <Patrickdk> throwing crap all over the screen from decode errors
[15:32] <rhpot1991> did you try some of the tweaks on the wiki page?
[15:32] <Patrickdk> using atsc sources, and good outputs from ffmpeg/x264
[15:32] <rhpot1991> !vdpau
[15:32] <Zinn> http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/VDPAU
[15:33] <Patrickdk> hmm, looks to be some new options
[15:33] <Patrickdk> this was 2 years ago, I think
[15:33] <Patrickdk> got a gt240 when it just came out pretty much
[15:34] <rhpot1991> Artifacts
[15:34] <rhpot1991> Adding "vdpaubuffersize=32" (or higher: eg. 42 works well for the Zotac HD-ID11 box) in the list of filters in Playback Settings may help with artifacts during playback.
[15:34] <rhpot1991> then the xorg tweaks on there are good to make too
[15:34] <Patrickdk> ya, I don't see anything different in xorg settings
[15:35] <rhpot1991>  Option         "TripleBuffer" "True"
[15:35] <rhpot1991> Section "Extensions"
[15:35] <rhpot1991>        Option "Composite" "Disable"
[15:35] <rhpot1991>    EndSection
[15:35] <Patrickdk> have that
[15:35] <Patrickdk> guess I will have to test with the filters
[15:36] <rhpot1991> Patrickdk: I think that 240 can do vdpau high, you might want to try vdpau normal if you having issues though
[15:37]  * Patrickdk notes a 1090T cpu plays back everything good though :)
[15:37] <rhpot1991> Patrickdk: ya you may not need it, but its a nice option to have
[15:38] <rhpot1991> I offload everything to my 9600 so I can free up my athlon x2 for other stuff
[15:38] <rhpot1991> then things like an ion you wouldn't want to cpu that :)
[15:38] <Patrickdk> well, I plan to use this for a frontend soon
[15:38] <Patrickdk> haven't got the cables yet though
[15:38] <Patrickdk> and decommission my c2d 2.8ghz frontend
[15:38] <Patrickdk> it can play pretty much everything except 1080p
[15:39] <Patrickdk> atleast not >10mbit
[15:46] <rhpot1991> Patrickdk: vdpau can prob help you there
[15:47] <Patrickdk> yep
[15:47] <Patrickdk> but the purpose I got the 1090T for was to dump that system :)
[15:47] <Patrickdk> just need to get the hdmi wires ran from it to the tv, audio connected
[15:48] <Patrickdk> and then reconfigure this to run mythtv on a seperate x screen for it
[15:48] <Patrickdk> then figure out how to handle different keyboard inputs to different x screens
[19:28] <Wicked> hello all. Im running ubuntu 10.04 with mythtv with a pvr-150 and im using the pvr-150's blaster to change channels. Recently due to all the changes going on regarding the kernel/lirc module the blaster uses...its been a hude pita to get it working. But yesterday ubuntu updated lirc which totally broke it for me. I was able to downgrade lirc and reply the "zilog" patch and reconfigure lirc to work
[19:28] <Wicked> again.
[19:28] <Wicked> but now im worried this next update will break it again for good
[19:30] <Wicked> this is the directions ive been using to get the blaster working: http://notepad.bobkmertz.com/2010/06/pvr-150-ir-blaster-on-mythbuntu-1004.html
[19:30] <Zinn> [notepad.bobkmertz.com] Bob's Notepad: PVR-150 IR Blaster on MythBuntu 10.04
[19:35] <rhpot1991> Wicked: if you specify the lirc module as lirc_zilog it doesn't help?
[19:35] <Wicked> well. as of current...i need to do what i posted in that link. Last i checked lirc_zilog was not in the ubuntu kernel
[19:36] <Wicked> so i would need to get the lirc source and use a zilog patch...recompile...then load the module
[19:36] <rhpot1991> I thought that it was
[19:36] <Wicked> im just worried that another change in the kernel/lirc will break it for good...leaving my myth setup useless if it cannot change channels
[19:36] <rhpot1991> unless I'm thinking about something else that had a z in it
[19:36] <Wicked> well. when i set up this box a few months ago im 98% sure it was not.
[19:37] <Wicked> i had a hella time getting it working
[19:38] <Wicked> hmm
[19:49] <Patrickdk> 10.04 should use the old way to set it up
[19:49] <Patrickdk> 10.10 uses the new control system
[19:51] <Wicked> what exactly do you mean the "old way"
[19:52] <Patrickdk> the ir stuff hasn't changed for ever, except between 10.04 and 10.10
[19:52] <Patrickdk> so 10.04 uses what almost all web documentation says
[19:53] <rhpot1991> in 10.10 a lot of things started to go kernel module based instead of lirc
[19:53] <Wicked> hmm. i just know i had a really hard time figuring out how to setup my blaster.
[19:54] <Wicked> ive been using this pvr-150 for like ~3-4 years and the way i had always set it up didnt work with 10.04
[19:54] <Wicked> something to do with changes in the kernel modules and stuff
[19:54] <Wicked> the module also changed to "lirc_zilog"
[19:55] <rhpot1991> sorry they started to move to input layer modules, I shoulda been more clear
[19:56] <Wicked> im updating the machine now and gonna reboot to the new kernel and pray the new kernel has what i need lol
[19:57] <Wicked> it would be awesome to have it all back in the kernel by default...so i wont have to worry/much around on each kernel/lirc update
[19:57] <Patrickdk> heh? what kernel are you using?
[19:57] <Wicked> stock
[19:58] <Wicked> Linux Core 2.6.32-27-generic #49-Ubuntu SMP Thu Dec 2 00:51:09 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[19:58] <Wicked> and just updated and about to reboot
[19:59] <Wicked> theres my other nick(Kernel)....need to reboot the box that runs myth and has my bouncer running.
[20:02] <Kernel> ..and crap. modinfo lirc_zilog
[20:02] <Kernel> ERROR: modinfo: could not find module lirc_zilog
[20:02] <Kernel> on the new kernel
[20:02] <Kernel> :|
[20:03] <Kernel> So.... any ideas on how i can get this working again?
[20:04] <rhpot1991> john@ultramagnus:~$ modinfo lirc_zilog
[20:04] <rhpot1991> filename:       /lib/modules/2.6.35-24-generic/kernel/drivers/staging/lirc/lirc_zilog.ko
[20:04] <rhpot1991> john@ultramagnus:~$ uname -a
[20:04] <rhpot1991> Linux ultramagnus 2.6.35-24-generic #42-Ubuntu SMP Thu Dec 2 02:41:37 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[20:04] <rhpot1991> its in 10.10
[20:04] <Kernel> yea. but not 10.04.
[20:05] <rhpot1991> might be worth checking to see if its been backported
[20:05] <Kernel> and getting it installed was a total pita
[20:05] <Kernel> 10.04 that is....i had alot of issues...and im not really looking to upgrade.
[20:05] <Kernel> hmm
[20:05] <Patrickdk> you can just upgrade the kernel in 10.04
[20:05] <Wicked> back to my old nick
[20:06] <Wicked> Patrickdk, to a 10.10 kernel?
[20:06] <rhpot1991> Patrickdk: shouldn't be kernel here, lirc I think
[20:06] <Wicked> id really prefer to keep things as stock at possible. i hate modifying things then having to manually track updates
[20:07] <rhpot1991> no wrong, thats in the kernel
[20:07] <rhpot1991> http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=lirc_zilog.ko&mode=exactfilename&suite=maverick&arch=any
[20:07] <Zinn> [packages.ubuntu.com] Ubuntu -- Package Contents Search Results -- lirc_zilog.ko
[20:07] <Patrickdk> ya, that is what ppa's are for :)
[20:07] <Wicked> hmm
[20:07] <Patrickdk> there is a *newer* kernel ppa for lucid
[20:07] <Patrickdk> I don't remember what it is, other than a guy needing it last week
[20:07] <Patrickdk> so I know it exists
[20:08] <Wicked> hmm. is it done buy the ubuntu team? or some 3rd party?
[20:09] <rhpot1991> Wicked: what kernel are you on?
[20:10] <Wicked> Linux Core 2.6.32-28-generic #55-Ubuntu SMP Mon Jan 10 23:42:43 UTC 2011 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[20:10] <Wicked> on 10.04
[20:11] <rhpot1991> looks like its in a kernel in lucid-updates: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=lirc_zilog.ko&mode=exactfilename&suite=lucid-updates&arch=any
[20:11] <Zinn> [packages.ubuntu.com] Ubuntu -- Package Contents Search Results -- lirc_zilog.ko
[20:12] <Wicked> hmm
[20:12] <Wicked> lucid-updates is like bleeding edge packages?
[20:12] <Wicked> i really dont want my system to be unstable.
[20:12] <Wicked> i chose 10.04 because its stable and is LTS
[20:12] <rhpot1991> no, that should be on by default
[20:13] <Wicked> oh hmm
[20:13] <Patrickdk> man, you just want everything :)
[20:13] <Wicked> Patrickdk, i do! :)
[20:13] <rhpot1991> you may need to dist-upgrade to pull the new kernel or something
[20:13] <Wicked> i do see it in a aptitude search
[20:13] <Patrickdk> you will
[20:13] <Wicked> so
[20:13] <Wicked> maybe i can just install the new kernel via apt?
[20:13] <Wicked> hopefully it wont break much
[20:13] <rhpot1991> if you sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[20:13] <rhpot1991> it should pull it
[20:14] <Wicked> linux-image-2.6.35-22-generic
[20:14] <rhpot1991> along with ay other updates available
[20:14] <Wicked> hmm
[20:14] <Wicked> i thought dist-upgrade was for switching between releases
[20:14] <rhpot1991> or just specify you want that specific kernel whatever way you are confortable with
[20:14] <rhpot1991> no
[20:14] <Patrickdk> no
[20:14] <Wicked> apt-get dist-upgrade updates nothing
[20:14] <Wicked> so looks like ill need to manually specify the one i want
[20:15] <Patrickdk> it won't now
[20:15] <Patrickdk> it will when the kernel updates though
[20:15] <rhpot1991> dist-upgrade is for installing packages with new depends or conflicting depends
[20:15] <Patrickdk> kernels only install on dist-upgrade
[20:15] <Patrickdk> other things do on upgrade
[20:15] <Wicked> hmm.
[20:15] <Wicked> i normally use aptitude
[20:15] <rhpot1991> Wicked: if it didn't pull it you may need to specify that kernel then
[20:15] <Wicked> but aptitude upgrade just installed a new kenrel
[20:15] <rhpot1991> Wicked: just do that in aptitude then
[20:15] <Wicked> ok. let me install the new kernel
[20:15] <Patrickdk> apt-get upgrade is equiv to aptitude safe-upgrade
[20:16] <rhpot1991> Wicked: make sure it pulls any modules that match and so on
[20:16] <Patrickdk> and apt-get dist-upgrade is like aptitude ..
[20:16] <rhpot1991> dpkg -l |grep linux-image
[20:16] <rhpot1991> and make sure they match up with your current packages
[20:16] <Patrickdk> aptitude full-upgrade
[20:16] <Wicked> ah
[20:16] <Wicked> perfect rhpot1991 ..i was just trying to figure out what other packages i would need
[20:16] <Wicked> :)
[20:26] <Kernel> ugh
[20:26] <Kernel> ok so this new kernel has lirc_zilog
[20:26] <Kernel> ....but its not working
[20:26] <Kernel> the blaster is *not* changing channels
[20:27] <Kernel> nothing happens when i issue a change channel command
[20:39] <Wicked> welp this certainly sucks
[20:45] <Wicked> sometimes i really hate linux :|