[15:33] <jdstrand> fyi, filed bug #708697 for inscape dependency on NBS binaries
[15:33] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 708697 in inkscape (Ubuntu) "FTBFS with latest poppler (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/708697
[16:02] <jdstrand> fyi bug #708715
[16:02] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 708715 in libindicate-qt (Ubuntu) "libindicate-qt4 FTBFS with new libindicate (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/708715
[16:04] <jdstrand> I guess I should milestone those
[17:19] <jdstrand> cjwatson: re milestones, what derivatives do we care about? all? ubuntu and kubuntu? all in ~ubuntu-core-dev/ubuntu-seeds (ie ubuntu, edubuntu, kubuntu, and netbook)?
[17:20] <jdstrand> cjwatson: oh, and hi :)
[17:30] <cjwatson> jdstrand: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NattyNarwhal/ReleaseManifest primarily, but anything that community folks are prepared to support is worth helping
[17:31] <cjwatson> actually that seems like a reasonably complete list
[17:36] <jdstrand> thanks
[17:42] <jdstrand> cjwatson: I don't see a seed file for wubi-- do the ubuntu bits generally just fall under the desktop seed? ie, are there extra things for wubi in the archive that aren't expressed in the germinate seeds?
[17:43] <jdstrand> I don't see anything about wubi in the structure.dot either...
[17:44] <cjwatson> wubi wouldn't make sense in the seeds
[17:44] <cjwatson> it's a different installer application
[17:45] <cjwatson> (which uses ubiquity as part of its operation, but the other bits are in Windows)
[17:45] <jdstrand> ok, that is what I was thinking but not expressing
[17:46] <jdstrand> cjwatson: is there bits in the archive outside of the desktop seed that I need to look out for to make sure wubi is ok?
[17:47] <jdstrand> I'd like to say something like "the desktop cd is ok, then wubi must be too"
[17:47] <cjwatson> you can't do that, no
[17:47] <cjwatson> the binaries live on http://people.canonical.com/~evand/wubi/natty/
[17:47] <cjwatson> but the way we tell that it's OK is to listen for test reports on http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/
[17:47] <cjwatson> I mean, as far as seeds and such go, Wubi installs an Ubuntu desktop
[17:48] <cjwatson> so package-wise, yes, if the desktop CD is consistent then Wubi is too.  That doesn't necessarily mean it will work :)
[17:48] <jdstrand> I will fully admit I don't really know how wubi works
[17:48] <jdstrand> ok
[17:48] <jdstrand> as the archive admin on point, then that is all I really need :)
[17:49] <cjwatson> it's a Windows application which asks a few questions, prepares loopback / and swap filesystems as files inside your Windows NTFS partition, then reboots into a preseeded ubiquity installation of (in this case) the Ubuntu desktop CD
[17:49] <cjwatson> there are a bunch of installer and boot loader customisations here and there to make this work
[17:50] <jdstrand> cool
[18:08] <jdstrand> fyi bug #708795
[18:08] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 708795 in gexiv2 (Ubuntu Natty) (and 1 other project) "gexiv2 FTBFS with new libexiv2 (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/708795
[18:30] <jdstrand> fyi, so I think NBS should be in ok shape for alpha-2 images. shotwell and koffice I coordinated with maintainers. inkscape already is being acted on, and libindicate-qt4 and gexiv2 have milestoned bugs
[18:30] <jdstrand> obviously I will continue to keep on eye on it
[18:30]  * jdstrand looks at the kernel in there now
[18:31] <jdstrand> (and a do a bunch of no change rebuilds)
[18:31] <jdstrand> s/a do/I did/
[18:35] <jdstrand> cjwatson: I will probably ask you later today or tomorrow about that kernel in the NBS report (ABI bump from 37-12 to 38-1). It isn't finished building yet on all archs, so I prefer to wait.
[18:36] <jdstrand> cjwatson: hopefully I'm not bugging you too much! :0
[18:36] <jdstrand> :)
[18:36] <cjwatson> that's fine, actually I'll probably just sort that out tomorrow morning if that's ok
[18:37] <cjwatson> needs an installer rebuild, seed bump, and then a round of NBS
[18:54] <jdstrand> cjwatson: that is totally fine by me. I just want to make sure I am aware of the issues surrounding d-i and seeds