[00:11] <chibihogoshino> its 7 pm on wednesday wtf is everyone doing ?
[00:31] <chris4585> I just had a bowl of cereal
[00:33] <chibihogoshino> anything good ?
[00:47] <chris4585> honey nut cheerios :D
[01:03] <chibihogoshino> sounds good
[04:36] <linuxman410> anyone here
[04:55] <cyberanger> I applaud linuxman410 for waiting more than sometimes, if only I didn't have a phone call
[04:55] <cyberanger> wrst: ^^
[04:58] <chris4585> lol
[04:58] <chris4585> sup cyberanger
[05:05] <cyberanger> chris4585: not too much
[05:05] <cyberanger> procrastaniting
[05:06] <cyberanger> (honesty can be so harsh)
[05:06] <cyberanger> luckily nothing too important
[05:07] <cyberanger> but I do need to blog another post or two, or shoot a dying dog, put it out of it's misery
[05:07] <cyberanger> (the dying dog being my dead blog)
[05:07] <cyberanger> chris4585: how about you
[05:09] <chris4585> eh, not the best.. but nothing wrong
[05:10] <cyberanger> that sounds like the common cold "I feel like $H17, but I'm not gonna die"
[05:10] <cyberanger> so hope things improve
[05:12] <chris4585> you could say that, just wish life was a continuous dream, you know?
[05:13] <cyberanger> well, I'm glad I can say that (cause I think I just did, opps)
[05:13] <cyberanger> yeah, I do know and understand that
[05:14] <cyberanger> thing is, some of the things I wish I could take it back to, were lousy times
[05:14] <cyberanger> the best of times, the worst of times, what a curse
[05:18] <cyberanger> nowadays, the dreams are easier, but the nightmares still hurt
[05:36] <cyberanger> xpra is intresting
[05:38] <cyberanger> I'd prefer a cli pandora app, to use with ssh and gnu screen, but this works
[11:35] <wrst> agree cyberanger, I do however wonder about his praise of blackberry phones when there are lots of linux based phones out there
[12:58] <cyberanger> I don't
[12:58] <cyberanger> the phone market has different rules
[12:59] <cyberanger> and for a long time, windows mobile and blackberry was it
[12:59] <cyberanger> with palm being in and out
[13:01] <cyberanger> not to metion their entrprise servers encrypt all traffic, to canidan servers, real nice for a traveller
[13:12] <cyberanger> wrst: that's not to say that a linux based phone isn't great, just give it time for proven stability in critical markets
[13:12] <cyberanger> markets blackberry has proven
[13:13] <wrst> i have used a blackberry some and my android atleast IMHO blows it away and my android is not a top of the line one by a long stretch
[13:14] <cyberanger> well, your necessarlly the critical markets I'd cite, markets that use BES
[13:14] <cyberanger> which android has no clear rival yet
[13:15] <cyberanger> they have 3rd party options to build your own comparable setup
[13:15] <linuxman410> cyberanger have u ever tried jolicloud os
[13:16] <cyberanger> I'd prefer Maemo myself, followed by android, but I must admit there is a reason for Blackberry's sucess, mainly from their BES line
[13:16] <cyberanger> linuxman410: not in awhile
[13:17] <linuxman410> cyberanger did u read their eula
[13:17] <cyberanger> hard to say, it's been awhile
[13:17] <cyberanger> maybe over a year by now
[13:19] <linuxman410> cyberanger the part i did not like was they say they have the right to share any of your info they want to
[13:19] <cyberanger> idk if that was in place back then, and besides, they had no info to share in my case
[13:20] <cyberanger> (you'd be suprised what dummy accounts and virtualbox can be good for ;-))
[13:20] <linuxman410> cyberanger i use it on my ek wi a fake name
[13:20] <linuxman410> n
[13:20] <linuxman410> netbook
[13:23] <linuxman410> cyberanger i have a blackberry again a 9300
[13:23] <cyberanger> intresting
[13:23] <cyberanger> why not an android phone
[13:24] <linuxman410> my friends have black berries and we use blackberry messsenger
[13:25] <linuxman410> cyberanger my daughter has a android it is a piece of crap
[13:25] <cyberanger> what's the phone
[13:26] <linuxman410> motorola backflip
[13:30] <cyberanger> well, substandard model
[13:31] <cyberanger> poor example
[13:36] <wrst> hey linuxman410, chibihogoshino, orangeninja!! woot
[13:36] <linuxman410> wrst how are ya
[13:36] <orangeninja> Hey, what's going on
[13:37] <wrst> good linuxman410 how are you doing?
[13:37] <chibihogoshino> woot ?
[13:37] <linuxman410> ok have u ever used jolicloud
[13:37] <wrst> chibihogoshino: i don't know, a term of excitement :)
[13:37] <wrst> linuxman410: never tried it
[13:38] <chibihogoshino> yahoooooo
[13:38] <linuxman410> wrst have u ever read their eula
[13:38] <wrst> sure haven't done that one linuxman410 :)
[13:38] <linuxman410> You hereby grant to Jolicloud a non-exclusive, worldwide, perpetual, irrevocable, royalty-free, sublicensable and transferable license to: (i) reproduce, modify and publish any Content that you use; and (ii) distribute and/or display through the Jolicloud Software any Content that You provide or make available using the Jolicloud Software for the sole purposes of making the Jolicloud Software available to You.
[13:38] <linuxman410> Jolicloud reserves the right (but shall have no obligation) to decide whether any Content that You use complies with these ToS and any additional terms. Jolicloud may in its sole discretion remove such Content and/or terminate these ToS and Your account if You use any Content that is in breach of these ToS and/or any additional terms at any time and without prior notice to You.
[13:39] <linuxman410> sorry about the flood
[13:40] <wrst> nice linuxman410 :)
[13:40] <linuxman410> wrst me and the guy on facebook who created it have been going back and forth about this part
[13:40] <wrst> how's that working out ? :)
[13:40] <linuxman410> wrst i do not think they should share data
[13:41] <wrst> no me either i'm not a fan of my data being shared at all
[13:41] <linuxman410> wrst that is why i use it but under a fake name
[13:42] <linuxman410> it is only os i can get to run on my old netbook
[13:43] <orangeninja> what netbook is it linuxman410? I want a netbook but I would like to put someform of linux on it if I got one.
[13:44] <linuxman410> it is a old asus eeepc 701
[13:44] <orangeninja> is that one of the old ones that came with linux or windows xp?
[13:45] <linuxman410> linux
[13:46] <cyberanger> linuxman410: I've got some stuff running on the smaller 2g version
[13:46] <cyberanger> it's possible for other options
[13:46] <linuxman410> cyberanger what was that
[13:46] <orangeninja> You know now that you brought it up, I wonder what google's eula looks like with their cloud OS
[13:47] <cyberanger> well, currently my openbox setup, installed on top of ubuntu cli install
[13:47] <linuxman410> cyberanger is it updated
[13:47] <cyberanger> another option is crunchbang
[13:48] <linuxman410> cyberanger will crunchbang work and update and still have room it only has a 4gig ssd
[13:49] <cyberanger> possibly
[13:49] <cyberanger> I installed to a 4g sd card, still up to date
[13:49] <linuxman410> on a 2g
[13:49] <cyberanger> now using a 8g sd card, but same sizes
[13:49] <cyberanger> 2g surf
[13:50] <cyberanger> but leaving the ssd intact
[13:50] <cyberanger> using the sd card slot instead
[13:50] <linuxman410> what version version 10
[13:51] <linuxman410> cyberanger u using statler
[13:51] <cyberanger> ubuntu 10.04, and crunchband starlter
[13:52] <linuxman410> cyberanger did u use unetbootin or startup disk creator in ubuntu to make the flash drive to install with
[13:53] <cyberanger> all three
[13:53] <cyberanger> the 3rd being, a cd drive
[13:53] <linuxman410> unetbootin work fine on the install though
[13:55] <linuxman410> cyberanger so they all 3 worked when u installed on a eepc
[13:55] <cyberanger> yes
[13:56] <cyberanger> as long as your careful of messing with the filesystems
[13:56] <linuxman410> thank you guess i going to install crunchbang then
[13:56] <cyberanger> it's a bit unique in that
[13:56] <cyberanger> the bios is on the sdd
[13:57] <linuxman410> i have installed on them before so if 4 gigs ssd is enough then it gets crunchbang
[13:58] <cyberanger> I'd double check in virtualbox
[13:58] <linuxman410> cyberanger thanks for the help thought i was stuck with jolicloud
[13:58] <cyberanger> in case they adjusted something in updates, making the filesize larger
[13:58] <cyberanger> but your still not stuck
[13:59] <linuxman410> what else beside crunchbang will work
[13:59] <cyberanger> well, how custom are you willing to go
[13:59] <cyberanger> ?
[14:00] <linuxman410> all the way
[14:01] <linuxman410> cyberanger as custom as it takes
[14:01] <cyberanger> then you can do a cli install of ubuntu
[14:01] <cyberanger> similar to the server install method
[14:02] <linuxman410> 10.10 or 10.04
[14:02] <cyberanger> and just grab as little as you want
[14:02] <cyberanger> both
[14:02] <cyberanger> sudo apt-get install openbox xorg
[14:02] <cyberanger> and go from there
[14:02] <cyberanger> lemme fetch you a list of what I've got
[14:03] <linuxman410> will it fit on the 4 gigs with open =box and xhat and a browser and still have room to update
[14:03] <cyberanger> yes
[14:03] <linuxman410> cyberanger that is cool
[14:03] <cyberanger> the updates purge what they replace
[14:04] <cyberanger> so idk how long it'll stay that way, but it's not an uphill battle
[14:04] <cyberanger> but over time, it will be a headache
[14:04] <cyberanger> but you can tie up the sd card too
[14:05] <cyberanger> so grab an 8 GB and you've really got room to burn
[14:06] <linuxman410> cyberanger so does your 2g run pretty good
[14:08] <cyberanger> admiting it has limits, and areas nothing else touches it
[14:08] <cyberanger> it does
[14:10] <linuxman410> ok thanks cyberanger
[15:14] <ZenAdm1n> good morning. Who's ready for 6 digit ip addresses? http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/01/26/internet-run-ip-addresses-happens-anyones-guess/?test=latestnews
[15:18] <vychune> thanks
[15:18] <vychune> and mornin
[15:22] <cyberanger> ZenAdm1n: they really borked that article
[15:22] <vychune> they did
[15:22] <vychune>  they wanna say it so people not computer literate can understand
[15:23] <cyberanger> well, there's dumbing down, and getting it wrong
[15:23] <vychune> i didnt say they did it well lol
[15:24]  * cyberanger has been running dual stack here for 6+ months
[15:24]  * cyberanger has been running a dns server with ipv6 records (but that server has no ipv6 address itself yet)
[15:25] <vychune> really? wow
[15:25] <cyberanger> yes
[15:26] <cyberanger> thus my issue with these articles
[15:26] <vychune> i see
[15:26] <cyberanger> what needs to happen is the DoD needs to give up some of it's legacy IP addresses
[15:26] <vychune> why cant isp just issue both addresses?
[15:26] <cyberanger> same for ford, GE, and others
[15:26] <cyberanger> they can
[15:26] <vychune> they have legacy ips?
[15:27] <cyberanger> the issue is that there isn't enough unassigned to keep assigning them forever
[15:27] <vychune> Fluky Old Rebuilt Dodge
[15:27] <cyberanger> legacy in that they predate the IANA, and the internet
[15:28] <cyberanger> aka ARPANET days
[15:28] <vychune> whoa
[15:29] <cyberanger> yes
[15:29] <cyberanger> hogs
[15:29] <vychune> ok then lol
[15:29] <vychune> LOL
[15:30] <cyberanger> that article has already been gutted in the Lug here too
[15:30] <cyberanger> Chugalug
[15:31] <vychune> Midsouth Makers chan is tearing it up
[15:32] <cyberanger> ...I still think there ought to be a valid case on "truth in
[15:32] <cyberanger> advertising" over putting "Fox" and "News" in the same sentence.
[15:32] <cyberanger> a quote from one email
[15:33] <vychune> lol
[15:34] <vychune> fox news is good in memphis
[15:34] <cyberanger> wonderful, the FAA just released another NOTAM relating to the DoD doing some more GPS tests
[15:34]  * vychune head-butts keyboard 
[15:36] <cyberanger> gotta run, work becons me
[15:36] <vychune> ok then see ya good luck
[16:53] <exodus_ms> hows everyones thursday? week is almost over :)
[17:21] <exodus_ms> need help writing a simple script. when i connect my phone to my laptop i have to run "easytether connect" then i have to open another terminal or tab and run "sudo dhclient easytether0"
[17:22] <exodus_ms> after i type in the password I'm connected to the internet. I would like to create an icon that i can simple click on after i connect my phone that will do all this
[17:55] <cyberanger> shame, that sounded like something I could have helped with...
[17:55] <cyberanger> well, when he get's back on
[18:00] <wrst> cyberanger: i thought that was right up your alley
[18:11] <cyberanger> lol
[18:30] <cyberanger> probally is
[19:44] <electricus> anybody from the knoxville area in here?
[19:45] <electricus> i was thinking about heading to the knoxlug meeting next month  http://www.knoxlug.org/doku.php
[20:01] <wrst> electricus: cyberanger is knoxvillish, but not all that close
[20:01] <cyberanger> chattanooga is closer
[20:02] <cyberanger> but my folks are maryville
[20:02] <cyberanger> so I do a bit back and forth
[20:02] <electricus> same distance for me
[20:02] <cyberanger> others are also in the metro area
[21:30] <cyberanger> electricus: why were you asking about knoxville? klug>
[21:31] <electricus> Just wondering if anyone had been to one of their meetings
[21:31] <cyberanger> no, and idk if they've had any recently
[21:32] <cyberanger> they've been quieter than they used to be
[21:34] <electricus> well.. since it's 42 and sunny .. i think i'll take a walk today..
[21:34]  * electricus heads to the store
[21:53] <electricus> eww.. Mountain Dew "White Out" flavor is gross