[00:17] <RAOF> Has anyone else noticed -intel 2.4.14-0ubuntu1 being broken?
[00:25] <RAOF> Oh, and that's why!
[01:10] <Chelsea> Hi all, i'm trying askubuntu for the first time, and have a question. I'm trying to post a comment to a question, without answering the question. Is this possible with 1 reputation?
[01:14] <RAOF> I don't think it is, no.
[01:19] <Chelsea> ok.. thanks
[01:23] <RAOF> bryceh: Still around to sponsor an -intel update, so it actually works?
[01:37] <RAOF> bryceh: No need for sponsoring; StevenK got it.
[02:08] <bryceh> RAOF, what was wrong with it?
[02:14] <bryceh> ah bad canDoBGNoneRoot in patches.
[02:17] <RAOF> bryceh: No, it used intel_batchbuffer_wait_last, which didn't exist, so it didn't load.
[02:19] <bryceh> hrm, not good that we missed that
[02:19] <RAOF> I just took the opportunity to make BGNoneRoot safe for 1.10 at the same time.
[02:20] <RAOF> Did anyone test the 1ubuntu1 -intel upload before uploading it?
[02:20] <bryceh> RAOF, I had assumed sarvatt had, but sounds like we need to be more explicit about the testing
[02:21] <Amaranth> wait, so edgers went through 2 DDX ABI changes?
[02:21] <bryceh> I'm wondering if we need some sort of staging ppa in addition to edgers, where the actual uploadable packages can age a bit
[02:21] <RAOF> Amaranth: Yes, because X went through a post-RC1 ABI change.
[02:22] <Amaranth> There was one when the packages all got the ABI updated and another where you just did a rebuild (and I spent half a day with no X :/)
[02:22] <Amaranth> ah, ok
[02:23] <RAOF> bryceh: What would the staging PPA pick up?
[02:23]  * Amaranth waits patiently for intel 1ubuntu2
[02:23] <RAOF> Yeah.  Don't log out before then :)
[02:24] <RAOF> Actually, I think I've heard ubuntu+1-proposed being proposed before.  This PPA would essentially be that.
[02:26] <RAOF> Alternatively, it could be a mirror of the sid/testing Debian split.
[02:26] <bryceh> RAOF, yeah... basically a place for us all to dput things ready for being uploaded to the archive, for final review/testing before actual upload
[02:26] <bryceh> but dunno, maybe that'd just be extra bureaucracy
[02:27] <RAOF> It would block uploads on PPA builder availability.
[02:28] <RAOF> Possibly just being more explicit about testing would do.
[02:29]  * bryceh nods
[02:42] <RAOF> Speaking of testing... time for synaptics.
[02:49] <bjsnider> Amaranth, i'm using xchat-gnome right now and i don't see how it's more fully integrated with gnome than xchat. can you enlighten me?
[02:50] <Amaranth> bjsnider: perhaps xchat has cleaned up since I last used it
[02:50] <Amaranth> It used to look ugly and you had to manually configure what browser to open links with and such
[02:50] <Amaranth> and proxies
[02:50] <bjsnider> well i don't have issues with either of those
[02:51] <Amaranth> not that anyone uses a proxy with IRC :)
[02:51] <bjsnider> maybe you should try xchat?
[02:51] <bjsnider> they both use the same settings directory
[04:46] <Amaranth> bjsnider: btw, does xchat do spell checking?
[04:47] <bjsnider> yup
[04:47] <bjsnider> it do indeed
[04:53] <bjsnider> come to think of it having used both i'm not sure there's a need for an "xchat-gnome" anymore
[07:54] <RAOF> cnd: We need to update to a new evdev for xserver 1.10.  Do you have any wishes while we're at it?
[15:55] <ripps> well, the 2.6.38 kernel is still to unstable. Keep getting ati pageflipping errors in dmesg and the desktop seems to freeze occasionally.
[16:33] <seb128> hello there
[16:34] <seb128> so xchat-gnome started showing refresh issues
[16:34] <seb128> is that a known issue?
[17:33] <Amaranth> seb128: I already filed that bug :)
[17:33] <Amaranth> seb128: It's a regression from -intel 2.13.901 to 2.14.0
[17:34] <seb128> ok, weird
[17:34]  * Amaranth has been living with it for some time on xorg-edgers, figured it would go away after a couple days
[17:34] <seb128> doesn't happen anymore after a session restart
[17:34] <Amaranth> seb128: scroll up
[17:34] <seb128> well I restart my IRC so up is the 2 lines you just wrote
[17:34] <Amaranth> For me it sometimes goes away until I start scrolling
[17:35] <seb128> oh you are right
[17:35] <seb128> do you have the bug number handy?
[17:35] <Amaranth> bug 707236
[17:35] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 707236 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu) "corruption in xchat-gnome window (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/707236
[17:36] <Amaranth> I knew I wasn't the only xchat-gnome user left :)
[17:36] <seb128> dholbach complained about it as well
[17:36] <Amaranth> Should have filed that bug sooner :/
[17:37] <jcristau> if it's still in intel master you should file it at fdo
[17:37] <Amaranth> Just figured it was edgers, things break and fix all the time, until I realized the same stuff was about to hit natty
[17:38] <seb128> it did now
[17:38] <Amaranth> jcristau: Apparently edgers has a git snapshot from 3 days ago so I guess I'll file upstream
[17:43] <Azelphur> Anyone got a GTX 570 here? I'm having X freeze issues with mine :(
[17:44] <apw> bryceh, is there an equivalent of intel_reg_dumper for ati and/or nvidia cards?
[17:44] <Azelphur> it's weird, it'll lock up for like 60 seconds, then return to normal as if nothing happened.
[17:44] <Azelphur> (most of the time, sometimes it doesn't come back)
[17:49] <apw> Azelphur, get any errors in dmesg associated with that?
[17:50] <Azelphur> apw http://pastebin.com/qPP9KuYy not sure
[17:50] <Azelphur> I did just have a total freeze and had to kill X
[17:50] <Azelphur> so there should be something near the bottom - if there is anything
[17:51] <Azelphur> it's definitely after line 1059
[17:51] <Azelphur> that Disabled privacy extensions thing might be something to do with it?
[17:52] <apw> Azelphur, so no nothing there ... the lo: bits are networking
[17:52] <Azelphur> ok
[17:52] <apw> nice to see its not just me who has flash pooping self all over the place
[17:52] <Azelphur> haha yea, flash crashes continually, I heard that's a bug in compiz that'll be fixed soon
[17:53] <apw> yeah right, all bugs in compiz are going to be fixed soon.  i am still waiting for my menus to appear above the background relaibly
[17:53] <Azelphur> :D
[17:54] <apw> Sarvatt, ROAF, is there an equivalent of intel_reg_dumper for ati and/or nvidia cards?
[17:55] <Azelphur> oh I should state this early, I'm running quad screen (2 separate X screens both running twinview) card 1 is GTX 570, card 2 is 8800GT :p
[17:55] <Azelphur> figure I'll state my weirdness to start with :)
[17:59] <Azelphur> apw: http://pastebin.com/mtDvzLbB
[17:59] <Azelphur> that's interesting, at the bottom
[18:01] <apw> Azelphur, is this with the binary drivers ?
[18:01] <Azelphur> yes
[18:01] <apw> phew
[18:01] <Azelphur> I had this problem with the version available in the repositories, so I tried building a new package and upgrading to the latest driver, but I still get the problem
[18:08] <bryceh> apw, no there isn't an exact equivalent but I do have leads on a couple tools.
[18:08] <bryceh> apw, what I'm really curious about is if the kernel can emit a signal in these cases like with intel, so we can hook apport to it
[18:17] <apw> bryceh, hangs you mean?  yeah i am more interested in them for 'black screen
[18:17] <apw> on boot' cases i am seeing
[18:19] <bryceh> aha
[18:21] <bryceh> apw, ok, for nouveau there is a pgtest tool mentioned here - https://bugs.freedesktop.org//show_bug.cgi?id=26980#c7
[18:21] <bryceh> dunno if it'd be useful in this case but might be worth checking out
[18:21] <ubot4> Freedesktop bug 26980 in Driver/nouveau "NVA3 / NVA5 / NVA8 / NVAF (GT2xx/GT3xx) with nouveau: random GPU lockups" [Normal,New]
[18:29] <apw> bryceh, know anything about "Nvidia graphics driver, obtained directly from Nvidia", any idea how its packaged, is it dkms ?
[18:43] <bryceh> apw, pretty sure they have their own installer
[18:43] <bryceh> apw, generally if a user installs nvidia from the nvidia site, they're on their own
[18:45] <apw> bryceh, that was my feeling, that he has installed it, got a new kernle and ended up in a mess, and thats what i'd expect "here keep both pieces"
[19:59] <jcristau> apw: http://cgit.freedesktop.org/~airlied/radeontool/
[22:03] <bryceh> tjaalton, hey can you shoot me a copy of that driver rebuild script?
[22:23] <RAOF> apt-get source $(apt-cache show xserver-xorg-input-all | grep Depends: | sed s/Depends://g | sed s/,//g)
[22:23] <RAOF> followed by for I in * ; do [ -d $I ] && (cd $I && dch --build "Rebuild against Xserver 1.10" && dpkg-buildpackage -S) ; done
[22:23] <RAOF> ? :)
[22:24] <RAOF> bryceh: Also, good morning :)
[22:24] <jcristau> you mean evening.
[22:25] <jcristau> damn aussies have everything reversed!
[22:25] <jcristau> :)
[22:28] <jcristau> RAOF: pretty useful thing to have scripted for server abi bumps.
[22:29] <RAOF> jcristau: Yeah.  That shell will also pick up x11-common, so it could do with a little bit more love :)
[22:35] <bryceh> RAOF, heya!
[23:45] <RAOF> bryceh: Was Sarvatt going to do the -ati update?