[03:56] <inetpro> good morning
[04:33]  * superfly rubs his eyes
[04:33] <superfly> is it morning already?
[04:35] <inetpro> superfly: I wonder
[06:15] <drubin> superfly: Sadly yes
[06:20] <sakhi> morning
[09:04] <nuvolari> .
[09:04] <Maaz> nuvolari: By the way, drubin on freenode told me "tell nuvolari goeie goeie verjaarsdag! Happy Happy all around hey!" 16 hours, 22 minutes and 16 seconds ago
[09:04] <nuvolari> mornings :>
[09:04] <nuvolari> drubin: thank you :D
[09:10] <superfly> hi nuvolari
[09:10] <superfly> you've been scarce
[09:10] <superfly> (or have I?)
[09:12] <superfly> oh boy... http://dilbert.com/dyn_file/str_strip/111064/gif/strip.print/
[09:41] <nuvolari> superfly: it's me :/
[09:41] <nuvolari> (that's scarce)
[10:36] <drubin> nuvolari: a pleasure
[10:57] <drubin> inetpro: "ow Apple Technology Supports and Enhances the Modern Classroom - Lecture Invite"
[11:00] <superfly> hmmmm some response to a spam message reply I sent 
[11:00] <drubin> it appears that we need to get our selves some "Ubuntu Education Mentor from the UK"
[11:01] <superfly> drubin: you left off the, " for Schools Who Are Rich Enough To Afford Our Products" ;-)
[11:04] <superfly> drubin: http://slexy.org/view/s20sZbMLup
[11:21] <drubin> hehe
[12:12] <drubin> superfly: if only that was sms smpam
[12:13] <superfly> mmm
[12:13] <drubin> spam* I had a similar issue I got bulktxt track th sms all the way down 3 different companies (that weren't using bulktxt) to get the source of the spam
[12:18] <superfly> oooo... another e-mail from those folks, this time with an e-mail address
[13:13] <nuvolari> any java guru's around?
[13:16] <superfly> nuvolari: I thought you were the java expert
[13:18] <nuvolari> heh, you never know, there's always someone knowing more
[14:12] <drubin> nuvolari: I would offer to help but my java skills are stuck on hard core for 1.1 release :)
[15:19] <Kilos> afternoon superfly  and everyone else
[15:19] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on
[15:19]  * Maaz puts the kettle on
[15:22] <Kilos> lo smorar_ 
[15:23] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[15:24] <Kilos> Maaz, ty
[15:24] <Maaz> You're Welcome I'm sure
[15:36] <superfly> afternoon Kilos
[15:38] <Symmetria> does anyone know anything about the bharti network in mumbai before I spend a fuckload on DRP capacity on it (not that I have a huge option)
[15:38] <Symmetria> ooops mischannel
[15:42] <smorar_> Kilos: lo
[16:17] <mo_> Hi , I am newbie to Ubuntu, I am difficulty in getting graphics drivers to load when i am running ubntu 10.02 from usb on my new laptop, HP nx8440  with Nvidia graphics, Ican hear the os load but the screen is blank /i.e. no graphics. Any help ? 
[16:18] <mo_> my email address vawdam @hotmail.com
[16:18] <Kilos> hi mo
[16:19] <Kilos> hi mo_ 
[16:19] <mo_> Hi kilos
[16:19] <Kilos> can you wait some please. most of the guys are on their way home i think
[16:19] <Kilos> welcome to ubuntu-za
[16:20] <mo_> Hav Ubuntu on my desktop for a month and I love it!!
[16:20] <Kilos> good
[16:21] <Kilos> you can also try the mailing lists just try give as much info as possible
[16:21] <Kilos> ubuntu-za@lists.ubuntu.com
[16:22] <mo_> Thank U for that info, I will try that. I tried to google for solution to this problem , but does not seem to be common at all.
[16:24] <Kilos> normally ubuntu graphics work with the default settings and you get prop dardware drivers later
[16:24] <Kilos> but thats by me
[16:24] <Kilos> some one will help you they just overloaded with work this time of the year
[16:26] <mo_> Unfortunately Ubuntu linux is not supported by HP. Though the laptopo is certified for another veresion of linux
[16:27] <Kilos> there will be a way to make it work. normally hp products work with ubuntu
[16:28] <Kilos> if it works on linux it will work with ubuntu
[16:29] <mo_> It is strange because the stick works on any other comp I try it on. I have also tried older versions with the same problem! I guess Iwill be stuck with Win 7 for a while
[16:30] <Kilos> eish
[16:30] <Kilos> no man be patient. some one will be able to help i am sure
[16:34] <nuvolari> mo_: not supported?
[16:34] <nuvolari> we all here at the office are running ubuntu on HP's just fine
[16:34] <Kilos> hi nuv
[16:34] <nuvolari> lo oom Kilos, gaan dit goed?
[16:35] <Kilos> dankie ja seun en daar
[16:36] <nuvolari> dit gaan goed dankie oom
[16:36] <nuvolari> gaan hou huistoe
[16:37] <nuvolari> moet gou die reën buite trotseer om by my kar uit te kom
[16:37] <Kilos> go safe
[16:37] <Kilos> lol
[16:37] <Kilos> hey mo_ you still here
[16:40] <mo_> still here , 
[16:40] <Kilos> ^^
[16:40] <Kilos> it must work
[16:40] <Kilos> maybe nuvolari  can help you when he gets home
[16:43] <mo_> That would be great, I am pleased that the linux community has people like yourself and others always willing to help where they can, maybe I will dump windows altogether! Lol
[16:43] <Kilos> w00t
[16:44] <superfly> mo_: you mean you're using 10.04? there's no such version as 10.02
[16:45] <superfly> mo_: what graphics card do you have?
[16:46] <superfly> Kilos: what is this "windows" he speaks of? :-P
[16:46] <Kilos> 7 superfly 
[16:46] <superfly> Kilos: 7?
[16:46] <Kilos> winows 7
[16:46] <superfly> I am afraid I seem to lead a very sheltered life here in LinuxLand
[16:47] <Kilos> yeah its the new one
[16:47] <superfly> new one? there are more?
[16:47] <Kilos> supposed to be slightly better than xp and vista
[16:47] <superfly> :-P
[16:47] <Kilos> hehe
[16:47] <Kilos> i dont even wanna see them
[16:47] <Morganvd> it looks good bad performance
[16:48] <Kilos> hi Morganvd 
[16:48] <Kilos> there you go superfly 
[16:48] <Morganvd> maybe 8 will run better as it has a linux kernel
[16:48] <Morganvd> hi Kilos 
[16:48] <Kilos> hehe
[16:48] <Morganvd> like IE 9 running on firefox engine
[16:49] <superfly> Morganvd: are you dreaming again? :-P
[16:49] <Morganvd> i mean wonder what els will be used in the next ms apps
[16:49] <Kilos> eish ie has always be probs
[16:49] <Morganvd> nope
[16:50] <Kilos> when i was online with xp i kept updating to latest ie hoping it would improve but it just got worse
[16:50] <Kilos> eventually used only firefox
[16:50] <superfly> Morganvd: MS can't use the Linux kernel in Windows because of the GPL
[16:52] <Morganvd> man i need to bookmark my searches
[16:53] <superfly> Morganvd: you're possibly thinking of a blog post that I also read where a guy suggested that MS use the BSD kernel for Windows 9
[16:53] <Morganvd> yeah
[16:53] <Morganvd> he was more saying that they where already discusing it
[16:53] <Morganvd> or something to that effect
[17:03] <mo_> Hi superfly
[17:03] <mo_> Sorry is the latest version 10.04
[17:04] <superfly> no, the latest version is 10.10
[17:04] <mo_> graphics card is NVIDIA NVS 3100 graphics with 512 MB dedicated gDDR3 video memory Intel® HD Graphics
[17:04] <superfly> uh, so which is it? nvidia or intel?
[17:05] <Morganvd> its the new hybread
[17:06] <Morganvd> its both
[17:06] <mo_> nvidia- just listed like that on HP site- http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/us/en/sm/WF06a/321957-321957-64295-3740645-3955549-4095872.html?jumpid=reg_R1002_USEN
[17:06] <Morganvd> mo
[17:06] <Morganvd> you have trouble installing ubuntu
[17:06] <Morganvd> with it or the driver
[17:07] <mo_> yes, iam trying to run from usb first, but i get a blak screen after selecting try ubuntu 
[17:07] <Morganvd> yip
[17:07] <Morganvd> have you got a spare monitor?
[17:07] <mo_> yes
[17:07] <Morganvd> just to lend for a min
[17:08] <Morganvd> kk plug it into the laptop
[17:08] <superfly> Maaz: google for ubuntu hp nx8440
[17:08] <Maaz> superfly: "Hewlett-Packard nw8440 [LinLap - Linux Laptop Wiki]" http://www.linlap.com/wiki/hewlett-packard+nw8440 :: "HP Open Source and Linux - Compaq nw8440 notebook" http://h20338.www2.hp.com/enterprise/cache/349240-0-0-0-121.html :: "HP Compaq nw8440 Mobile Workstation - Worldwide QuickSpecs" http://h18000.www1.hp.com/products/quickspecs/12449_div/12449_div.HTML :: "Business support forums - nw8440 - VT disabled in bios" http://forums11
[17:08] <mo_> should i try pluging in vga cable?
[17:08] <Morganvd> yip
[17:08] <superfly> I doubt it'll work
[17:08] <Morganvd> i had the same problem with my dell 
[17:08] <Morganvd> teh nuvou driver is the issue
[17:09] <Morganvd> you install ubuntu 
[17:09] <Morganvd> and the prop driver and everthing els works
[17:09] <superfly> Morganvd: ah yes, I remember that
[17:10] <Morganvd> there is more than one option
[17:10] <mo_> probably a difficult install then?
[17:10] <Morganvd> but i found the 2nd monitor works best
[17:10] <Morganvd> mo_: 
[17:10] <Morganvd> laptop or desktop
[17:10] <mo_> laptop
[17:10] <Morganvd> sorry
[17:11] <Morganvd> stupid question
[17:11] <Morganvd> plugin the 2nd monitor
[17:11] <Morganvd> run the installer
[17:11] <Morganvd> and installer should pop up on the 2nd monitor
[17:12] <Morganvd> but i would try 10.10
[17:12] <mo_> ok i will try that , will have to unplug my desktop 
[17:12] <Morganvd> not 10.04
[17:12] <mo_> will let you know what happens later
[17:12] <Morganvd> mo_: when you install
[17:12] <mo_> thank u for the your help
[17:12] <Morganvd> the laptop monitor
[17:12] <Morganvd> will make funny lines like its going crazy
[17:13] <Morganvd> just ignore it
[17:13] <mo_> ok
[17:13] <Morganvd> till you get teh prop driver installed
[17:13] <mo_> will the driver auto down load?
[17:13] <Morganvd> yes
[17:13] <Morganvd> hardware upgrades
[17:14] <Morganvd> its nvidia driver
[17:14] <mo_> ok, will grub 2 be able to boot win 7?
[17:15] <Morganvd> yes
[17:15] <Morganvd> i think with some tweaking
[17:15] <Morganvd> http://www.linlap.com/wiki/hp+elitebook+8440p
[17:16] <mo_> i had a problem with my desktop and had use easy bcd
[17:27] <superfly> easy bcd?
[17:30] <Morganvd> 3 Aug 2010 ... EasyBCD is NeoSmart Technologies' multiple award-winning answer to taking control of your bootloader. EasyBCD extends and revamps the
[17:30] <superfly> oh, YAPBL
[18:04] <kbmonkey> eve all
[18:05] <Kilos> hi kbmonkey 
[18:06] <kbmonkey> I have this really strange issue: When I click on Home Folder from the main Places menu, it tries to open with vlc :/
[18:06] <Kilos> hehe
[18:06] <Kilos> ha ha ha
[18:06] <Kilos> i had that
[18:06] <Morganvd> lol
[18:06] <kbmonkey> I remove vlc, and it opens in Nautilus
[18:06] <Kilos> right click on a folder on desktop and say open with
[18:06] <kbmonkey> ha ha yes :)
[18:06] <Kilos> then um
[18:07] <kbmonkey> Ahh, I did that last night, must've clicked a folder by mistake ;)
[18:07] <Kilos> um
[18:07] <Kilos> other option
[18:07] <Kilos> and look for gedit or whatever and tick the block that says use this for these kinds of files
[18:08] <kbmonkey> Oh wait, folder properties doesn't have a 'open with' tab
[18:08] <Kilos> wait a sec i see if i can do it again
[18:08] <kbmonkey> thanks :)
[18:09] <Kilos> right click
[18:09] <Kilos> open with other app
[18:09] <Kilos> and look for what you want it to use
[18:09] <Kilos> if i right i had to install gedit
[18:09] <Kilos> and gdebi
[18:10] <Kilos> they not here by default
[18:10] <kbmonkey> got it! :)
[18:10] <Kilos> its a weird one hey
[18:10] <kbmonkey> I chose custom command and entered nautilus
[18:10] <Kilos> yes thats it
[18:11] <kbmonkey> the things you do unconsciously while multi-tasking
[18:11] <Kilos> thats how you get it to use gdebi instead of software centre too
[18:11] <Kilos> i like gdebi for installing
[18:12] <kbmonkey> myself, or command line 
[18:12] <Kilos> i dont think gedit was installed either it wanted to use text reader or something
[18:12] <kbmonkey> learning so much about firewalls and networking this week
[18:12] <Kilos> thats good
[18:13] <Kilos> if you go custom commands it gives tons of apps
[18:13] <kbmonkey> building up some more skills, since I might need another job in couple months
[18:13] <Kilos> you can select individual preferences for anything there
[18:13] <Kilos> eish
[18:14] <kbmonkey> by my own choice
[18:14] <Kilos> knowledge is priceless
[18:14] <Kilos> learn as much as you can
[18:15] <kbmonkey> agreed! after this mission, it's back to the Python :)
[18:15] <Kilos> good. the fly will be happy to hear that
[18:17] <Symmetria> holy shitballs, has anyone seen apocalypse now? (old movie)
[18:17] <kbmonkey> I'd be very hapy to get a job involving python and/or *nix
[18:17] <kbmonkey> yes, it's one of my favs
[18:17] <Symmetria> I just got holda the remastered high def version and watched the first 15 minutes just to see how my sound system handled it
[18:17] <Symmetria> the sound.... is... like... whoaaaaa
[18:17] <kbmonkey> coppola is a mad director
[18:17] <Symmetria> dude, u gotta watch that movie with my sound system, muahaha like, freak out
[18:18] <Symmetria> kbmonkey heh, you know those choppers in the beginning
[18:18] <kbmonkey> does it blow you away? 
[18:18] <Symmetria> on my sound system, heh, you can hear them flying in all directions, like, lol, makes u wanna turn and look for a chopper coming at you
[18:18] <kbmonkey> That!
[18:18] <Kilos> lol
[18:19] <kbmonkey> how movies should be watched :)
[18:19]  * Symmetria is glad he bought this sound system :P
[18:19] <kbmonkey> thats my next buy, just got a new box set up as a HTPC 
[18:20] <Symmetria> heh kbmonkey will show you my system in a sec
[18:20] <kbmonkey> 5.1 with a sub?
[18:20] <Symmetria> http://uk.yamaha.com/en/products/audio-visual/av-receivers-amps/rx-v567__g/
[18:20] <Symmetria> thats my amplifier 
[18:20] <Symmetria> http://www.kef.com/gb/loudspeakers/c-series
[18:20] <Symmetria> and those are my speakers :)
[18:21]  * kbmonkey is turning green!
[18:21] <kbmonkey> very nice!
[18:22] <Symmetria> heh I have 2 x C5's 2 x C1's 1 x C6LCR and 1 x C4 
[18:22] <Symmetria> linked to that amp
[18:28] <kbmonkey> thats epic
[18:28] <Symmetria> heh worth the price tag 
[18:28] <Symmetria> (which was rather high)
[18:29] <kbmonkey> I had nice sound put in my car in Dec, wow :)
[18:30] <Symmetria> heh kbmonkey I got lucky, my car has a harmon kardon system in it  that it had in it when I bought it
[18:30] <Symmetria> saved me money having to upgrade it, cause well, kinda pointless screwing with an H&K system, u are only gonna screw it up if you try mess with it 
[18:31] <kbmonkey> sadly some guy did a u-turn in front of me, car is wrecked. 
[18:31] <Symmetria> heh, insurance?
[18:31] <kbmonkey> so 2011 can only get better I recon :)
[18:31]  * Symmetria would cry if anything happened to his car :P my car is kinda, my baby
[18:32] <Symmetria> http://picasaweb.google.com/Symm001/TheNewCar#5515939393667298210
[18:32] <kbmonkey> there's insurance, will see how it pans out.
[18:32] <Symmetria> http://picasaweb.google.com/Symm001/TheNewCar#5515939403451843010
[18:32] <Symmetria> :)
[18:32] <Symmetria> ^^^ thats muh car
[18:32] <kbmonkey> driving a tiny 3-stroke now. 
[18:32] <kbmonkey> uber lol
[18:33] <Symmetria> heh that car of mine is a 3.5 litre twin turbo
[18:33] <Symmetria> 0-100 in 5.2 :)
[18:33]  * Symmetria loves that car more than life itself :P
[18:36] <kbmonkey> yes I would too if I had one Symmetria 
[18:36] <kbmonkey> :0
[18:36] <kbmonkey> ha ha i meant :)
[18:42] <superfly> kbmonkey: I hope your insurance pays out enough
[18:43] <superfly> I can't afford to be in an accident myself, even WITH my insurance :-(
[18:43] <kbmonkey> I can't really afford it either, superfly, but we always survive :)
[18:43] <kbmonkey> thanks!
[18:44] <superfly> hey, kbmonkey, did you get those links I gave you the other day?
[18:46]  * Symmetria notes that myadsl hasnt said anything about the next seacom outage yet
[18:46] <Symmetria> *suprised*
[18:46] <Symmetria> heh, I suspect the forums are going to be full of whining bitching idiots again
[19:00] <Morganvd> anyone know if mo came right
[19:00] <Kilos> not yet Morganvd 
[19:13]  * Symmetria waits for hell to break lose after people see his announcement on the ren-news mailing list
[19:43] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight