| ArMo3 | The reboot and shut down options are greyed out. | 00:11 |
|---|---|---|
| ArMo3 | wrong channel | 00:12 |
| ArMo3 | sorry | 00:12 |
| mucus | hey, i'm new to linux and was wondering how i use the terminal to make a program from a source | 01:59 |
| bazhang | mucus, compile? | 02:02 |
| mucus | actually yes | 02:02 |
| bazhang | mucus, install build-essential | 02:02 |
| mucus | i'm in the terminal now, but having problems changing to the proper directory.... | 02:02 |
| mucus | build-essential h? | 02:03 |
| bazhang | sudo apt-get install build-essential | 02:03 |
| mucus | i get a couple of errors | 02:03 |
| bazhang | such as? | 02:04 |
| mucus | oh ...maybe that's due to synaptic being open | 02:04 |
| bazhang | yep | 02:04 |
| bazhang | you can install from there as well | 02:04 |
| bazhang | !compile | 02:04 |
| ubottu | Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first) | 02:04 |
| bazhang | mucus, you may want to have a read of the above as well | 02:04 |
| mucus | !packages | 02:04 |
| ubottu | You can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !KPackageKit, !Adept, "apt-cache search <keywords or regex>", or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu has about 20000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways! | 02:04 |
| mucus | cool thanks, i wanna get started on compiling my own source, but i need to get back into the swing of things with c. . . | 02:05 |
| mucus | when i install something in that manner, where does it go? | 02:06 |
| mucus | ie where does it install to | 02:06 |
| christo_m | how can i stop xubuntu from saving state | 03:12 |
| christo_m | i dont want the samecrap opening everytime i shut down | 03:12 |
| skyhawk | Can someone help me with a desktop enviornment question? | 06:15 |
| Sysi | try | 06:19 |
| skyhawk | I would like to boot without xfce or any desktop enviornment | 06:21 |
| Sysi | with them being installed or do minimal installation or remove some? | 06:27 |
| Sysi | http://serverfault.com/questions/147430/how-to-change-default-runlevel-of-ubuntu-lucid | 06:28 |
| CloseYetFar | Hey is there anyway to get a text boot up that will show you the loading of all the scripts like on Gentoo? | 06:36 |
| Sysi | you can replace "quiet splash" with "verbose" in /etc/default/grub but then it prints useless stuff too | 06:38 |
| CloseYetFar | is it just kernal stuff? I basicly want to see init run its rc scripts | 06:39 |
| Sysi | afaik there isn't really good way with grub2, you can see boot messages after booting with 'dmesg' | 06:40 |
| CloseYetFar | yea | 06:40 |
| Sysi | grub2/upstart | 06:41 |
| lighta | !version | 06:47 |
| ubottu | To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell - To know the available version of a package, « apt-cache policy <package> » | 06:47 |
| CloseYetFar | upstart is the new program that manages rc scritps? | 07:13 |
| bazhang | many , yes | 07:13 |
| bazhang | !upstart | 07:14 |
| ubottu | Upstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model. For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/ | 07:14 |
| CloseYetFar | ok thanks | 07:17 |
| nkadmin | i am using tightvnc server. the screen on the windows client is gray blank. whet must i do to see the real scree? | 14:35 |
| === bigbrovar_ is now known as bigbrovar | ||
| psycho_oreos | xubuntu being the vnc server and windows being the vnc client? how do you mean real screen? | 14:39 |
| nkadmin | yes, so | 14:56 |
| nkadmin | on the client machine inthe vnc client window is dark grey. | 15:13 |
| psycho_oreos | !vnc| nkadmin | 15:16 |
| ubottu | nkadmin: VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely. It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX | 15:16 |
| nkadmin | i will see the link! :) | 15:18 |
| WhitePelican | anyone know of a ppa for xfce4.8 for Maverick yet? | 15:32 |
| mark76 | I wish :( | 15:37 |
| Sysi | i'd compiled it for myself but it would have ment i'd had to remove almost all gui application | 15:41 |
| WhitePelican | guess I will have to wait 3 months then :) | 15:42 |
| === whatevernick is now known as quantumbit | ||
| rtdos | i have a 6.04 desktop that does not have access to the internet (so i'm not as concerned about security updates) - is there a way to install software from the repositorie archives using only a CD? | 15:48 |
| quantumbit | yea if you have it | 15:48 |
| quantumbit | altough, you should upgrade to 10.10 to get newer software versions | 15:49 |
| rtdos | quantumbit: i mainly use this 6.04 machine for games, it's not even connected to the internet. given how old the hardware is, i doubt 10.10 would be much of an improvement. | 15:51 |
| quantumbit | i run 10.10 on an old machine I upgraded to 512mb ram lately | 15:52 |
| quantumbit | i ran it with 256mb although, it wasn't very usable | 15:52 |
| quantumbit | i run it on 2 such machines actually | 15:52 |
| rtdos | the machine i have 6.04 machine only has 128 Meg and a 700MHz Celeron. | 15:52 |
| quantumbit | wow | 15:52 |
| rtdos | yea. :) | 15:53 |
| quantumbit | ok I understand :D~~ | 15:53 |
| quantumbit | yea, for some reason newer software/distribs seem to use quite a lot of ram | 15:53 |
| quantumbit | I think, mostly because they assume availability | 15:53 |
| rtdos | it's an hp and althoguh i like hp, i bought it as a wal-mart special | 15:53 |
| Sysi | moder HW for modern OS | 15:53 |
| rtdos | and wal-mart specials, um, suck. :) | 15:54 |
| Sysi | rtdos: that old software may be hard to get, bu you van install .deb:s manually quite easily | 15:54 |
| quantumbit | it makes no sense though, that a web browser with just one google.com page loaded, consumes almost 100mB ram | 15:54 |
| Sysi | man what typing | 15:54 |
| quantumbit | but it's the case | 15:54 |
| Sysi | but if you want* | 15:54 |
| Sysi | quantumbit:have you recently tried win98? | 15:55 |
| quantumbit | no | 15:55 |
| Sysi | you'd notice where all the ram goes | 15:55 |
| quantumbit | the fact that modern machines have lots of ram is not a reason to waste it where it's not required though.. economy is always a good principle | 15:56 |
| Sysi | i admit software in general is still bad, but we do have much more options and better user experience | 15:56 |
| Sysi | i assume you also aren't programmer? | 15:57 |
| quantumbit | some applications do require a lot of ram, some don't | 15:57 |
| rtdos | what kills me is that back then hp didn't even put an option in for more than 128Meg (it initially came with 64Meg)- only had 2 slots for ram, the other 2 slots were not solderd in for the wal-mart special. | 15:57 |
| quantumbit | i am:D | 15:57 |
| Sysi | i'm not | 15:57 |
| quantumbit | web browsing consumes huge amount of ram I think | 15:57 |
| Sysi | but i know how much effort it takes | 15:58 |
| quantumbit | esp. with all the modern dynamic components, scripts, and stuff | 15:58 |
| quantumbit | it's not much effort when you enjoy it:) | 15:58 |
| Sysi | i hardly ever use 1GB of ram even with new kubuntu | 15:58 |
| quantumbit | hm.. I take it you don't run many apps at once | 15:59 |
| Sysi | i don't consider that being much in kinda heavy use | 15:59 |
| quantumbit | with 512mb and kubuntu, im always on swap with just firefox+pidgin+wine+ a few xterms | 15:59 |
| rtdos | well, if we're talking ram: look at how programmers creatively took advantage of the small amount of ram in an atari 2600. but i digress. is there away to install stuff from the xubuntu archives on my machine using only a cd rom? | 15:59 |
| quantumbit | err xubuntu | 15:59 |
| Sysi | get adblock | 15:59 |
| quantumbit | i wouldnt even attempt kde D | 15:59 |
| quantumbit | I have it | 16:00 |
| Sysi | i've used kde with 512, not very bad | 16:00 |
| quantumbit | man, I dev'ed for microcontrollers with like 64 BYTES of ram total | 16:00 |
| quantumbit | and I can tell you you can design complex systems with it | 16:00 |
| Sysi | but think, 512 isn't too much for WinXP and it's 10 years old | 16:00 |
| rtdos | with dependencies and recommended packages ? | 16:00 |
| Sysi | rtdos: you need to download all of them and put to that cd | 16:01 |
| Sysi | then install with dpkg -i | 16:01 |
| quantumbit | nah.. you have to admit.. when sales persons tell you.. 3GHz 2GB will be good for basic stuff like word processing etc.. but you need more for multimedia games etc.. | 16:02 |
| quantumbit | come on.. in the 60's people were doing text processing just fine | 16:02 |
| Sysi | rtdos: you need to have packages for right ubuntu version ofc | 16:02 |
| Sysi | quantumbit: technology goes on, let's use it | 16:02 |
| Sysi | *goes forward | 16:03 |
| quantumbit | yea | 16:03 |
| Sysi | i still think most of software is pretty bad | 16:03 |
| quantumbit | I like low footprint software | 16:03 |
| charlie-tca | hm, I remember using my old boss talking about using text processors in the '60's. He waited seconds to minutes to see what he typed | 16:03 |
| Sysi | doing good is expensive | 16:03 |
| quantumbit | cuz it's slick, usually designed to be simple & efficient | 16:03 |
| quantumbit | with probably much more elegant & flexible code base too | 16:04 |
| Sysi | i use apps that i like | 16:04 |
| Sysi | i have intel dual core, i don't consider this modern after buying left4dead | 16:05 |
| Sysi | lga775 socket cpu:s are expensive :/ | 16:06 |
| * quantumbit takes a look at 'top' output | 16:06 | |
| Sysi | with FF, transmission, thunar and terminal, gnome-system-monitor says 226MiB | 16:07 |
| quantumbit | I realise I'm a linux fanatic | 16:12 |
| quantumbit | I have hardly used any other OS in years | 16:13 |
| quantumbit | or maybe like 5min top once :D | 16:13 |
| Sysi | i started again when win7 came, but it'n not really that much better than XP | 16:14 |
| Sysi | XP was my reson to get linux, i just hated it | 16:14 |
| quantumbit | yea.. last regular use of a MS OS for me was win98 | 16:15 |
| quantumbit | but that's when I started with linux too | 16:15 |
| quantumbit | at the time I had a dual boot with many different distroes shiftin' in and out at a high rate :D | 16:16 |
| Sysi | i installed hardy about when 8.10 was released, "newbie" | 16:16 |
| Sysi | this year i've only reinstalled this machine few times :P | 16:17 |
| quantumbit | ya I settled for simplicity myself | 16:17 |
| rtdos | dpkg -i ? does it automatically detect the cd rom drive ? | 16:18 |
| Sysi | you propably need to mount it and point to packages | 16:18 |
| quantumbit | you have synaptic in 6.04? | 16:19 |
| Sysi | btw it's actually 6.06 | 16:19 |
| charlie-tca | and, yes, it did have synaptic package manager | 16:20 |
| quantumbit | strange:D | 16:20 |
| rtdos | not sure if i have synaptic in 6.06 or not, i doubt it. | 16:20 |
| quantumbit | I remember back then ubuntu was shipping free CDs | 16:20 |
| rtdos | if it did then yes i do. :) | 16:20 |
| charlie-tca | rtdos: you do know 6.06 server edition is end of support in June 2011, right? Desktop has not had support since 2009 | 16:23 |
| quantumbit | you could try microkernels on that machine.. or distroes specifically targeted at low spec hardware maybe | 16:25 |
| quantumbit | havent researched that in a while | 16:25 |
| rtdos | yes, charlie-tca: this machine doesn't even have internet, the hardware specs are low (128Meg 700Mhz Celeron) mainly use it for games and word processing. | 16:33 |
| rtdos | microkernals, quantumbit? i didn't think linux was capable? | 16:34 |
| wizardslovak | hello people | 16:34 |
| wizardslovak | i have settup ssh but is there possibility to actually see desktop | 16:35 |
| wizardslovak | both machines are xubuntu | 16:36 |
| rtdos | where would i d/l the archived packages / repositories for 6.06 ? | 16:38 |
| charlie-tca | rtdos: MIght look at Lubuntu for an up-to-date distro. It is based on Ubuntu, using lxde, which is very low resources | 16:39 |
| rtdos | but it requires 256Meg, doesn't it? | 16:40 |
| charlie-tca | rtdos: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ | 16:42 |
| charlie-tca | but there are none for Xubuntu 6.06, only for Ubuntu 6.06 | 16:42 |
| charlie-tca | !lubuntu | 16:42 |
| ubottu | lubuntu is a project to create a derivative of Ubuntu using the LXDE desktop environment. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu . /join #lubuntu for lubuntu support. | 16:42 |
| charlie-tca | It should need 64MB ram | 16:42 |
| rtdos | thanks, charlie-tca i'll check it out. | 16:45 |
| sphereoid | is there a way to securely wipe a hard drive with xubuntu? | 17:14 |
| charlie-tca | Same as with any linux distro, yes | 17:16 |
| charlie-tca | !shred | 17:16 |
| charlie-tca | !wipe | 17:16 |
| sleek | is there a way after the xubuntu install to set a passphrase for my encrypted home directory? | 17:16 |
| charlie-tca | sphereoid: use either wipe or shred | 17:17 |
| error21 | I can`t install gcc | 17:38 |
| === jwkokc is now known as jk_ | ||
| charlie-tca | Xubuntu community meeting in #ubuntu-meeting in 17 minutes. Everyone is invited to attend. | 18:42 |
| quantumbit | what are these meeting? | 18:45 |
| charlie-tca | they are meetings to discuss what xubuntu is doing, keep users informed of xubuntu's decisions, and today to verify the project leader | 18:48 |
| Sysi | i could join.. haven't attended even in loco meetings for ages | 18:49 |
| charlie-tca | heh, yes you could | 18:50 |
| charlie-tca | I am going to attend today | 18:50 |
| charlie-tca | quantumbit: the agenda is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Meetings | 18:51 |
| MichealH | charlie-tca: Its time? | 19:02 |
| charlie-tca | yup | 19:02 |
| MichealH | charlie-tca: Shall I open the meeting? | 19:02 |
| charlie-tca | no, I will chair | 19:03 |
| MichealH | Okies | 19:03 |
| bcgrown | what do i need to (re)install to connect to network file shares? My "Service type" list in the "Connect to Server" dialog is empty | 19:18 |
| WebDawg | heh | 19:21 |
| WebDawg | bcgrown You prolly need samba or cifs clients. | 19:21 |
| bcgrown | WebDawg: I wonder what I did, because I had them working at one point :/ | 19:23 |
| WebDawg | You try testing them at commandline? | 19:23 |
| bcgrown | WebDawg: no... actually what I want right no is SFTP, but don't I just need ssh for that? i definitely have ssh.. | 19:23 |
| WebDawg | I thought their was a sftp binary but I could be wrong. | 19:25 |
| bcgrown | yep, but i already have that. it's just Gigolo that seems to be confused | 19:25 |
| WebDawg | You got me atm man. | 19:26 |
| vinnl | You can also install a dedicated FTP client like gftp bcgrown | 19:31 |
| bcgrown | vinnl: i want to have my shares permanently mounted as part of my filesystem though | 19:31 |
| bcgrown | I'm pretty sure gigolo+thunar can do that, same as gnome/nautilus does. mine seems to have forgotten how, though. | 19:32 |
| bcgrown | well... semi-permanently, that is | 19:32 |
| vinnl | bcgrown, ah, yeah, Gigolo should be able to do that | 19:32 |
| vinnl | Not sure what the problem is | 19:33 |
| bcgrown | tried uninstalling, deleteing ~/.config/gigolo, and reinstalling, but no dice | 19:33 |
| === WebDawg is now known as Linux_God | ||
| === Linux_God is now known as WebDawg | ||
| bcgrown | apparently i was missing gvfs-backends | 19:43 |
| yondering | hola. anyone know if xubuntu 10.10 has pulseaudio enabled by default? | 20:10 |
| charlie-tca | yes | 20:11 |
| yondering | thank you | 20:11 |
| charlie-tca | You are welcome | 20:11 |
| q_a_z_steve | cody-somerville, are you also in ##windows or ##windows-server by chance? | 20:43 |
| q_a_z_steve | stupid XP giving me fits again. | 20:44 |
| === q_a_z_steve1 is now known as q_a_z_steve | ||
| cody-somerville | q_a_z_steve, No sorry. I don't even have any computers that run Windows. | 21:09 |
| q_a_z_steve | good place to be, unfortunately I support them still | 21:16 |
| === sean is now known as Guest43309 | ||
| Alexander | Query: Is there a way to change the background image for the login screen? I am tired of looking at blue skies and clouds. | 21:23 |
| Alexander | hello? | 21:26 |
| bazhang | Alexander, gdm themes? | 21:28 |
| Alexander | Is it gdm? I thought everything was xfce4. (I am not very good at this) | 21:30 |
| Alexander | I just installed the iso of 10.10 onto my netbook, so it's whatever the default settings are. | 21:31 |
| bazhang | Alexander, the netbook edition? of xubuntu? | 21:31 |
| Alexander | No. Just the default edition (desktop edition?) | 21:33 |
| bazhang | there are a ton of gdm themes | 21:33 |
| bazhang | !info sabily-gdm-themes | 21:33 |
| ubottu | sabily-gdm-themes (source: sabily-gdm-themes): Sabily GDM themes. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3 (maverick), package size 2635 kB, installed size 3060 kB | 21:33 |
| bazhang | apt-cache search gdm reveals quite a number | 21:34 |
| Alexander | okay, so I go to gdmsetup and it gives me login screen settings, but nothing to change the theme | 21:37 |
| Alexander | just default session, show list of users, etc | 21:37 |
| === q_a_z_steve is now known as q_a_z_steve|afk | ||
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