[00:11] The reboot and shut down options are greyed out. [00:12] wrong channel [00:12] sorry [01:59] hey, i'm new to linux and was wondering how i use the terminal to make a program from a source [02:02] mucus, compile? [02:02] actually yes [02:02] mucus, install build-essential [02:02] i'm in the terminal now, but having problems changing to the proper directory.... [02:03] build-essential h? [02:03] sudo apt-get install build-essential [02:03] i get a couple of errors [02:04] such as? [02:04] oh ...maybe that's due to synaptic being open [02:04] yep [02:04] you can install from there as well [02:04] !compile [02:04] Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first) [02:04] mucus, you may want to have a read of the above as well [02:04] !packages [02:04] You can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !KPackageKit, !Adept, "apt-cache search ", or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu has about 20000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways! [02:05] cool thanks, i wanna get started on compiling my own source, but i need to get back into the swing of things with c. . . [02:06] when i install something in that manner, where does it go? [02:06] ie where does it install to [03:12] how can i stop xubuntu from saving state [03:12] i dont want the samecrap opening everytime i shut down [06:15] Can someone help me with a desktop enviornment question? [06:19] try [06:21] I would like to boot without xfce or any desktop enviornment [06:27] with them being installed or do minimal installation or remove some? [06:28] http://serverfault.com/questions/147430/how-to-change-default-runlevel-of-ubuntu-lucid [06:36] Hey is there anyway to get a text boot up that will show you the loading of all the scripts like on Gentoo? [06:38] you can replace "quiet splash" with "verbose" in /etc/default/grub but then it prints useless stuff too [06:39] is it just kernal stuff? I basicly want to see init run its rc scripts [06:40] afaik there isn't really good way with grub2, you can see boot messages after booting with 'dmesg' [06:40] yea [06:41] grub2/upstart [06:47] !version [06:47] To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell - To know the available version of a package, « apt-cache policy » [07:13] upstart is the new program that manages rc scritps? [07:13] many , yes [07:14] !upstart [07:14] Upstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model. For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/ [07:17] ok thanks [14:35] i am using tightvnc server. the screen on the windows client is gray blank. whet must i do to see the real scree? === bigbrovar_ is now known as bigbrovar [14:39] xubuntu being the vnc server and windows being the vnc client? how do you mean real screen? [14:56] yes, so [15:13] on the client machine inthe vnc client window is dark grey. [15:16] !vnc| nkadmin [15:16] nkadmin: VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely. It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX [15:18] i will see the link! :) [15:32] anyone know of a ppa for xfce4.8 for Maverick yet? [15:37] I wish :( [15:41] i'd compiled it for myself but it would have ment i'd had to remove almost all gui application [15:42] guess I will have to wait 3 months then :) === whatevernick is now known as quantumbit [15:48] i have a 6.04 desktop that does not have access to the internet (so i'm not as concerned about security updates) - is there a way to install software from the repositorie archives using only a CD? [15:48] yea if you have it [15:49] altough, you should upgrade to 10.10 to get newer software versions [15:51] quantumbit: i mainly use this 6.04 machine for games, it's not even connected to the internet. given how old the hardware is, i doubt 10.10 would be much of an improvement. [15:52] i run 10.10 on an old machine I upgraded to 512mb ram lately [15:52] i ran it with 256mb although, it wasn't very usable [15:52] i run it on 2 such machines actually [15:52] the machine i have 6.04 machine only has 128 Meg and a 700MHz Celeron. [15:52] wow [15:53] yea. :) [15:53] ok I understand :D~~ [15:53] yea, for some reason newer software/distribs seem to use quite a lot of ram [15:53] I think, mostly because they assume availability [15:53] it's an hp and althoguh i like hp, i bought it as a wal-mart special [15:53] moder HW for modern OS [15:54] and wal-mart specials, um, suck. :) [15:54] rtdos: that old software may be hard to get, bu you van install .deb:s manually quite easily [15:54] it makes no sense though, that a web browser with just one google.com page loaded, consumes almost 100mB ram [15:54] man what typing [15:54] but it's the case [15:54] but if you want* [15:55] quantumbit:have you recently tried win98? [15:55] no [15:55] you'd notice where all the ram goes [15:56] the fact that modern machines have lots of ram is not a reason to waste it where it's not required though.. economy is always a good principle [15:56] i admit software in general is still bad, but we do have much more options and better user experience [15:57] i assume you also aren't programmer? [15:57] some applications do require a lot of ram, some don't [15:57] what kills me is that back then hp didn't even put an option in for more than 128Meg (it initially came with 64Meg)- only had 2 slots for ram, the other 2 slots were not solderd in for the wal-mart special. [15:57] i am:D [15:57] i'm not [15:57] web browsing consumes huge amount of ram I think [15:58] but i know how much effort it takes [15:58] esp. with all the modern dynamic components, scripts, and stuff [15:58] it's not much effort when you enjoy it:) [15:58] i hardly ever use 1GB of ram even with new kubuntu [15:59] hm.. I take it you don't run many apps at once [15:59] i don't consider that being much in kinda heavy use [15:59] with 512mb and kubuntu, im always on swap with just firefox+pidgin+wine+ a few xterms [15:59] well, if we're talking ram: look at how programmers creatively took advantage of the small amount of ram in an atari 2600. but i digress. is there away to install stuff from the xubuntu archives on my machine using only a cd rom? [15:59] err xubuntu [15:59] get adblock [15:59] i wouldnt even attempt kde D [16:00] I have it [16:00] i've used kde with 512, not very bad [16:00] man, I dev'ed for microcontrollers with like 64 BYTES of ram total [16:00] and I can tell you you can design complex systems with it [16:00] but think, 512 isn't too much for WinXP and it's 10 years old [16:00] with dependencies and recommended packages ? [16:01] rtdos: you need to download all of them and put to that cd [16:01] then install with dpkg -i [16:02] nah.. you have to admit.. when sales persons tell you.. 3GHz 2GB will be good for basic stuff like word processing etc.. but you need more for multimedia games etc.. [16:02] come on.. in the 60's people were doing text processing just fine [16:02] rtdos: you need to have packages for right ubuntu version ofc [16:02] quantumbit: technology goes on, let's use it [16:03] *goes forward [16:03] yea [16:03] i still think most of software is pretty bad [16:03] I like low footprint software [16:03] hm, I remember using my old boss talking about using text processors in the '60's. He waited seconds to minutes to see what he typed [16:03] doing good is expensive [16:03] cuz it's slick, usually designed to be simple & efficient [16:04] with probably much more elegant & flexible code base too [16:04] i use apps that i like [16:05] i have intel dual core, i don't consider this modern after buying left4dead [16:06] lga775 socket cpu:s are expensive :/ [16:06] * quantumbit takes a look at 'top' output [16:07] with FF, transmission, thunar and terminal, gnome-system-monitor says 226MiB [16:12] I realise I'm a linux fanatic [16:13] I have hardly used any other OS in years [16:13] or maybe like 5min top once :D [16:14] i started again when win7 came, but it'n not really that much better than XP [16:14] XP was my reson to get linux, i just hated it [16:15] yea.. last regular use of a MS OS for me was win98 [16:15] but that's when I started with linux too [16:16] at the time I had a dual boot with many different distroes shiftin' in and out at a high rate :D [16:16] i installed hardy about when 8.10 was released, "newbie" [16:17] this year i've only reinstalled this machine few times :P [16:17] ya I settled for simplicity myself [16:18] dpkg -i ? does it automatically detect the cd rom drive ? [16:18] you propably need to mount it and point to packages [16:19] you have synaptic in 6.04? [16:19] btw it's actually 6.06 [16:20] and, yes, it did have synaptic package manager [16:20] strange:D [16:20] not sure if i have synaptic in 6.06 or not, i doubt it. [16:20] I remember back then ubuntu was shipping free CDs [16:20] if it did then yes i do. :) [16:23] rtdos: you do know 6.06 server edition is end of support in June 2011, right? Desktop has not had support since 2009 [16:25] you could try microkernels on that machine.. or distroes specifically targeted at low spec hardware maybe [16:25] havent researched that in a while [16:33] yes, charlie-tca: this machine doesn't even have internet, the hardware specs are low (128Meg 700Mhz Celeron) mainly use it for games and word processing. [16:34] microkernals, quantumbit? i didn't think linux was capable? [16:34] hello people [16:35] i have settup ssh but is there possibility to actually see desktop [16:36] both machines are xubuntu [16:38] where would i d/l the archived packages / repositories for 6.06 ? [16:39] rtdos: MIght look at Lubuntu for an up-to-date distro. It is based on Ubuntu, using lxde, which is very low resources [16:40] but it requires 256Meg, doesn't it? [16:42] rtdos: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ [16:42] but there are none for Xubuntu 6.06, only for Ubuntu 6.06 [16:42] !lubuntu [16:42] lubuntu is a project to create a derivative of Ubuntu using the LXDE desktop environment. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu . /join #lubuntu for lubuntu support. [16:42] It should need 64MB ram [16:45] thanks, charlie-tca i'll check it out. [17:14] is there a way to securely wipe a hard drive with xubuntu? [17:16] Same as with any linux distro, yes [17:16] !shred [17:16] !wipe [17:16] is there a way after the xubuntu install to set a passphrase for my encrypted home directory? [17:17] sphereoid: use either wipe or shred [17:38] I can`t install gcc === jwkokc is now known as jk_ [18:42] Xubuntu community meeting in #ubuntu-meeting in 17 minutes. Everyone is invited to attend. [18:45] what are these meeting? [18:48] they are meetings to discuss what xubuntu is doing, keep users informed of xubuntu's decisions, and today to verify the project leader [18:49] i could join.. haven't attended even in loco meetings for ages [18:50] heh, yes you could [18:50] I am going to attend today [18:51] quantumbit: the agenda is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Meetings [19:02] charlie-tca: Its time? [19:02] yup [19:02] charlie-tca: Shall I open the meeting? [19:03] no, I will chair [19:03] Okies [19:18] what do i need to (re)install to connect to network file shares? My "Service type" list in the "Connect to Server" dialog is empty [19:21] heh [19:21] bcgrown You prolly need samba or cifs clients. [19:23] WebDawg: I wonder what I did, because I had them working at one point :/ [19:23] You try testing them at commandline? [19:23] WebDawg: no... actually what I want right no is SFTP, but don't I just need ssh for that? i definitely have ssh.. [19:25] I thought their was a sftp binary but I could be wrong. [19:25] yep, but i already have that. it's just Gigolo that seems to be confused [19:26] You got me atm man. [19:31] You can also install a dedicated FTP client like gftp bcgrown [19:31] vinnl: i want to have my shares permanently mounted as part of my filesystem though [19:32] I'm pretty sure gigolo+thunar can do that, same as gnome/nautilus does. mine seems to have forgotten how, though. [19:32] well... semi-permanently, that is [19:32] bcgrown, ah, yeah, Gigolo should be able to do that [19:33] Not sure what the problem is [19:33] tried uninstalling, deleteing ~/.config/gigolo, and reinstalling, but no dice === WebDawg is now known as Linux_God === Linux_God is now known as WebDawg [19:43] apparently i was missing gvfs-backends [20:10] hola. anyone know if xubuntu 10.10 has pulseaudio enabled by default? [20:11] yes [20:11] thank you [20:11] You are welcome [20:43] cody-somerville, are you also in ##windows or ##windows-server by chance? [20:44] stupid XP giving me fits again. === q_a_z_steve1 is now known as q_a_z_steve [21:09] q_a_z_steve, No sorry. I don't even have any computers that run Windows. [21:16] good place to be, unfortunately I support them still === sean is now known as Guest43309 [21:23] Query: Is there a way to change the background image for the login screen? I am tired of looking at blue skies and clouds. [21:26] hello? [21:28] Alexander, gdm themes? [21:30] Is it gdm? I thought everything was xfce4. (I am not very good at this) [21:31] I just installed the iso of 10.10 onto my netbook, so it's whatever the default settings are. [21:31] Alexander, the netbook edition? of xubuntu? [21:33] No. Just the default edition (desktop edition?) [21:33] there are a ton of gdm themes [21:33] !info sabily-gdm-themes [21:33] sabily-gdm-themes (source: sabily-gdm-themes): Sabily GDM themes. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3 (maverick), package size 2635 kB, installed size 3060 kB [21:34] apt-cache search gdm reveals quite a number [21:37] okay, so I go to gdmsetup and it gives me login screen settings, but nothing to change the theme [21:37] just default session, show list of users, etc === q_a_z_steve is now known as q_a_z_steve|afk