| apachelogger | debfx: I find bug 696345 quite valid | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 696345 in KdeSudo "kdesudo does not warn about fruther commands" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/696345 | 00:00 |
| apachelogger | the proposed solution is the crap though | 00:00 |
| apachelogger | ideally there would just be a config file to deactivate kdesudo session foobar | 00:01 |
| apachelogger | also it is not a security vulnerability | 00:01 |
| debfx | apachelogger: why? | 00:01 |
| apachelogger | debfx: to give people their windows feeling back | 00:02 |
| apachelogger | also there is a security implication from the session stuff | 00:03 |
| apachelogger | ... | 00:03 |
| apachelogger | say you do something using kdesudo | 00:03 |
| apachelogger | then leave the machine unattended | 00:03 |
| apachelogger | one could screw you big time at that point | 00:03 |
| apachelogger | without kdesudo session stuff they could just screw that one profile | 00:03 |
| apachelogger | so, since it is considerable little effort to actually implement such a feature I would be in favor of doing it once someone finds the time | 00:04 |
| debfx | maybe also add a kill switch like sudo | 00:05 |
| apachelogger | there is | 00:05 |
| apachelogger | kdesudo -s or somesuch | 00:05 |
| debfx | ah, yes | 00:05 |
| debfx | why isn't it it called -k like in sudo ^^ | 00:06 |
| apachelogger | prolly kdesu has the same option :P | 00:06 |
| apachelogger | yep | 00:06 |
| apachelogger | -s Stop the daemon (forgets all passwords) | 00:06 |
| apachelogger | from kdesu | 00:07 |
| debfx | oh dear: "--nonewdcop Use existing DCOP server" | 00:08 |
| debfx | ah the dcop code is commented out | 00:10 |
| apachelogger | dcop ftw | 00:12 |
| apachelogger | life used to be so much simpler with it -.- | 00:13 |
| CIA-40 | [dragonplayer] sitter * 1217597 * branches/KDE/4.6/kdemultimedia/dragonplayer/src/app/ (mainWindow.cpp mainWindow.h stateChange.cpp) (log message trimmed) | 00:26 |
| CIA-40 | Also supress screen power management when watching a film. Please note that this | 00:26 |
| CIA-40 | currently does not seem to work on 4.6 as powerdevil does not seem to actually | 00:26 |
| CIA-40 | [dragonplayer] sitter * 1217599 * trunk/KDE/kdemultimedia/dragonplayer/src/app/ (mainWindow.cpp mainWindow.h stateChange.cpp) (log message trimmed) | 00:29 |
| CIA-40 | Forward port r1217597. Also supress screen power management when watching a | 00:29 |
| CIA-40 | film. Please note that this currently does not seem to work on 4.6 as powerdevil | 00:29 |
| debfx | apachelogger: do you know why dragonplayer (optionally) uses xine directly? | 00:30 |
| apachelogger | dvdmenu shit | 00:30 |
| apachelogger | to be killed dead with phonon 4.5 | 00:31 |
| debfx | does that actually work when using a non-xine phonon backend? | 00:31 |
| apachelogger | debfx: when did the codec installer crash appear? | 00:31 |
| apachelogger | before the installer dialog appeared? | 00:31 |
| apachelogger | debfx: no | 00:31 |
| apachelogger | dragon actually has error messages talking about xine :D | 00:32 |
| apachelogger | most fun application evar ^^ | 00:32 |
| debfx | aha, so we can drop the xine dependency then | 00:32 |
| debfx | apachelogger: I can't reproduce the crash anymore after upgrading and installing the debug packages | 00:32 |
| apachelogger | well, if you could tell me a bit about what happened... ;) | 00:33 |
| apachelogger | oh | 00:34 |
| Daskreech | apachelogger: It is valid for it to be coded to use xine | 00:34 |
| apachelogger | I think I know why and what and when | 00:34 |
| debfx | I push the play button, the codec dialog pops up, amarok crashes | 00:34 |
| apachelogger | oh | 00:34 |
| apachelogger | that is odd | 00:34 |
| apachelogger | anyhow | 00:34 |
| Daskreech | (I know that's not one of the objectives of Dragon Just saying) | 00:34 |
| apachelogger | the package is missing a vital fixy | 00:34 |
| apachelogger | see kde-packager list | 00:34 |
| apachelogger | debfx: are you sure you did not maybe switch to another song while the installer was at work? | 00:34 |
| debfx | apachelogger: yes, I didn't even click on the codec dialog | 00:35 |
| apachelogger | odd enough | 00:35 |
| === jtechidna is now known as JontheEchidna | ||
| debfx | apachelogger: amarok crashed again: http://paste.kde.org/3504/ | 00:38 |
| apachelogger | ha! | 00:39 |
| apachelogger | that is not my fault at all | 00:39 |
| apachelogger | haah | 00:39 |
| apachelogger | debfx: surely there were more threads though? | 00:39 |
| debfx | apachelogger: http://paste.kde.org/3505/ | 00:40 |
| apachelogger | yep yep yep | 00:40 |
| apachelogger | I did not break it | 00:41 |
| debfx | apachelogger: what amarok fix is missing? | 00:41 |
| apachelogger | it is the crappy qtwebkit shadeslayer was complaining about earlier | 00:41 |
| apachelogger | debfx: phonon-backend-gstreamer fix | 00:41 |
| apachelogger | debfx: https://projects.kde.org/projects/kdesupport/phonon/phonon-gstreamer/repository/revisions/3784b33b487a7db3f526a59a384d9a978be745fd | 00:41 |
| debfx | apachelogger: do we need the amarok vlc fix that markey suggested? | 00:44 |
| apachelogger | not if vlc 1.1.6 lands in the natty machine | 00:45 |
| JontheEchidna | !info vlc natty | 00:45 |
| ubottu | vlc (source: vlc): multimedia player and streamer. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.6-1ubuntu1 (natty), package size 1374 kB, installed size 3532 kB | 00:45 |
| apachelogger | not needed then | 00:45 |
| apachelogger | also it is sort of limited in scope anyway | 00:45 |
| JontheEchidna | apachelogger: http://tinyurl.com/4es2b9c teh surprise | 00:47 |
| apachelogger | is it pr0n? | 00:47 |
| JontheEchidna | nop | 00:48 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: you are wicked | 00:48 |
| apachelogger | and underdocumented :P | 00:48 |
| JontheEchidna | yeah... | 00:48 |
| JontheEchidna | I'll get around to that :P | 00:48 |
| * debfx wonders why libqtwebkit4-dbg went from 400 MB to 5 MB | 00:48 | |
| JontheEchidna | & once I figure out how to get data files from the archive it'll be a suitable class for implementing a thumbnailer with | 00:49 |
| apachelogger | debfx: not containg crao? | 00:49 |
| apachelogger | debfx: or maybe lzma'd? | 00:49 |
| JontheEchidna | (the .ar data archive) | 00:49 |
| persia | JontheEchidna, Why QLatin1String: can't most of those be unicode? | 00:49 |
| persia | (in practice, for Ubuntu, it doesn't matter today, but still) | 00:50 |
| apachelogger | hm | 00:50 |
| JontheEchidna | man, non-latin characters for source package names and the like would be a pain | 00:50 |
| apachelogger | well | 00:51 |
| apachelogger | valid point though | 00:51 |
| JontheEchidna | I could see section and priority maybe getting l10n'd | 00:51 |
| apachelogger | + QL1S in a lib's return is evil I believe | 00:51 |
| JontheEchidna | but at least section isn't really meant to be human-readable in the first place | 00:51 |
| apachelogger | for exactly that reason | 00:51 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: dont think l10n'd | 00:51 |
| apachelogger | think local distro | 00:52 |
| apachelogger | say a french makes a debian distro for french people ;) | 00:52 |
| persia | e.g. BlankOn (although that's not French) | 00:52 |
| apachelogger | oh oh oh | 00:54 |
| debfx | apachelogger: the crash isn't amarok related, qtwebkit is completely broken | 00:54 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: may I be naggy? | 00:54 |
| JontheEchidna | apachelogger: sure | 00:54 |
| apachelogger | debfx: that is what I said, is it not? ;) | 00:54 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: why do you use @since but \return? | 00:54 |
| JontheEchidna | cargo cult apidox | 00:54 |
| apachelogger | pardon? | 00:55 |
| JontheEchidna | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cargo_cult_programming | 00:55 |
| JontheEchidna | but for doxygen :P | 00:55 |
| apachelogger | how dreadful | 00:55 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: get your style fixed man :P | 00:55 |
| apachelogger | also, while I am at it.... technically that ctor there is not a defautl ctor :P | 00:56 |
| apachelogger | kubotu: google default constructor c++ ibm | 00:56 |
| kubotu | Results for default constructor c++ ibm: 1. Default constructors (C++ only): http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/comphelp/v8v101/topic/com.ibm.xlcpp8a.doc/language/ref/cplr376.htm | 2. Default constructors (C++ only): http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/cellcomp/v101v121/topic/com.ibm.xlcpp101.cell.doc/language_ref/cplr376.html | 00:56 |
| kubotu | 3. Initializing base classes and members (C++ only) - IBM: http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/comphelp/v8v101/topic/com.ibm.xlcpp8a.doc/language/ref/cplr388.htm | 00:56 |
| apachelogger | there ya go | 00:56 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: I hope you see where this is leading | 00:57 |
| apachelogger | :D | 00:57 |
| JontheEchidna | :P | 00:57 |
| apachelogger | ...faulty software... :P | 00:57 |
| JontheEchidna | It was suprisingly easy to implement: http://gitweb.kde.org/libqapt.git/blob/92e1838ae6baf0c40ca8ccade3d4b59a149ae500:/src/debfile.cpp | 01:01 |
| JontheEchidna | Getting files from the .ar data archive will be a bit harder though | 01:04 |
| persia | Wouldn't libdpkg be the handy way to dig those out? | 01:05 |
| apachelogger | persia: last I checked it did not provide anything useful in that direction | 01:09 |
| persia | Ugh. Oh well. | 01:10 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: oh, on that tought ... what debfile is missing is file listing ^^ | 01:11 |
| apachelogger | that is where dpkg-deb code gets dirty btw | 01:11 |
| apachelogger | like even if they did not have a horrible code style (if one wants to call it style) :P | 01:11 |
| JontheEchidna | yeah, file listing will also require me to extract the .ar somewhere | 01:12 |
| JontheEchidna | in fact, if you wanted to search for an icon for a thumbnailer you'd need to search the filelist for things that have paths like icons would | 01:13 |
| apachelogger | well, it is ugly that's for sure | 01:15 |
| apachelogger | maemo has app icons embedded in a special control field IIRC | 01:15 |
| apachelogger | makes all sorts of sense IMHO | 01:15 |
| JontheEchidna | I would like an Enhances-Description field to describe how $package enhances $otherpackage | 01:18 |
| JontheEchidna | which I could then use for listings addons for $otherpackage | 01:19 |
| JontheEchidna | oh btw, QtGStreamer is way way way more pleasant to use than regular-flavor gstreamer | 01:24 |
| valorie | new minty taste? | 01:25 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: that is just because you are one of them people who do not like glib c apis :P | 01:25 |
| JontheEchidna | kill glib with fire! | 01:25 |
| JontheEchidna | look at its beauty compared to glib-based ugliness: https://projects.kde.org/projects/extragear/sysadmin/libqapt/repository/revisions/5af860db72a411337e7792f52475d2ed953d1f0e/diff/utils/qapt-gst-helper/GstMatcher.cpp | 01:26 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ax_dq4DZk4A | 01:29 |
| * apachelogger needs to establish a policy ensuring that people only show him java code from now on | 01:29 | |
| valorie | Riddell was right, you're becoming a Jahvuh Witness | 01:31 |
| apachelogger | well | 01:32 |
| apachelogger | look at the ugly code there | 01:32 |
| apachelogger | how could I not | 01:32 |
| apachelogger | stupid C* | 01:32 |
| apachelogger | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_WI0VI7aIw | 01:34 |
| === rickspencer3_ is now known as rickspencer3 | ||
| valorie | DarkwingDuck: I'm here, btw | 07:52 |
| valorie | and I'll be around tomorrow night | 07:52 |
| devurandom | Hi! | 09:32 |
| devurandom | Where is the repository with the packaging scripts for kubuntu-ppa/backports? | 09:32 |
| Riddell | afiestas__: but reports by slashdot comments http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1969946&cid=35028236 | 09:34 |
| Riddell | devurandom: there's no packaging scripts | 09:34 |
| devurandom | How did you package then? Not by hand I assume... | 09:34 |
| Riddell | we keep the packaging in bzr, check it out, add a new changelog, and build | 09:36 |
| devurandom | Well, "in bzr" sounds like what I am searching for. | 09:37 |
| devurandom | Where is that code located, though? | 09:37 |
| Riddell | bzr co lp:~kubuntu-members/kdetoys/ubuntu | 09:37 |
| Riddell | see http://code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members | 09:38 |
| devurandom | Thanks Riddell! | 09:39 |
| Riddell | devurandom: what's your interest, are you going to become an elite Kubuntu Ninja? | 09:41 |
| devurandom | No, I am searching for a patch against the plasma-overlay configuration widget, that allows configuring the background image. | 09:42 |
| debfx | Riddell: the seed blacklist doesn't seem to work, geoip-database is still on the cd | 09:48 |
| Riddell | humbug | 09:48 |
| devurandom | Turned out to be no patch by Kubuntu, but my Netbook being unable to do compositing. The plasma-overlay only allows background images in non-compositing mode. | 10:07 |
| devurandom | But thanks again for your help! | 10:07 |
| markey | Riddell: cool, after upgrading to KDE 4.6 final, this also magically fixed my issues with the SSH keyring thingie. now it asks me on startup again for the password | 10:16 |
| markey | passphrase, I mean | 10:16 |
| markey | and that works :) | 10:17 |
| afiestas__ | Riddell: there are no changes between kde 4.5 and 4.6 that could affect bluedevil | 10:36 |
| afiestas__ | people thinks that bluedevil is in kdebase or something, but it is not xd | 10:36 |
| Riddell | debfx: see #u-d | 10:41 |
| === yofel_ is now known as yofel | ||
| dantti | digikam is crashing for me after 4.6 update is there any ppa with it fixed? | 12:07 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: ^^ | 12:10 |
| yofel | dantti: natty or maverick? | 12:19 |
| yofel | digikam opens fine here | 12:19 |
| dantti | yofel: maverick | 12:19 |
| yofel | k, I'm on natty | 12:19 |
| dantti | :( | 12:19 |
| yofel | ah, someone filed a report about that - bug 708564 | 12:20 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 708564 in Kubuntu PPA "Digikam chrashes after Initialization in KDE 4.6" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/708564 | 12:20 |
| yofel | dantti: what version of kipi-plugins do you have? | 12:22 |
| dantti | 1.4.0-0ubuntu2 | 12:23 |
| yofel | hm, we have 1.8.0 in ninjas, so I think that was forgotten when copying | 12:24 |
| dantti | yofel: right, what is the ppa url so I can try testing? | 12:25 |
| * Riddell msg'es to dantti the ninjas secret | 12:27 | |
| dantti | yofel: is the package libkipi8? | 12:30 |
| Riddell | and kipi-plugins | 12:31 |
| * apachelogger needs a kronos -.- | 12:31 | |
| apachelogger | ah, wth | 12:31 |
| * apachelogger packages akunambol himself | 12:31 | |
| Riddell | the packaging todo is building up | 12:31 |
| apachelogger | I fear I do not even know how packaging works anymore :/ | 12:31 |
| Riddell | currently we have kdepim, grantlee, qtgstreamer, attica, probably others | 12:31 |
| apachelogger | <3 grantlee | 12:31 |
| dantti | yofel: ok, installing kipi-plugins-common and libkipi8 solved the crash | 12:48 |
| yofel | dantti: that needs to be copied then, thanks | 13:09 |
| * apachelogger ponders changing his nick to javalogger | 13:09 | |
| shadeslayer | no | 13:10 |
| yofel | change it to public_static_int_main_logger | 13:10 |
| shadeslayer | theres enough java in the world | 13:10 |
| shadeslayer | no | 13:10 |
| shadeslayer | mainlogger() | 13:10 |
| dantti | yofel: :/ tho the export menu (which I was interested in using) does not show anything | 13:10 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: ^ | 13:10 |
| shadeslayer | dantti: in gwenview? | 13:10 |
| shadeslayer | or digikam> | 13:11 |
| yofel | kipi-plugins copied | 13:11 |
| dantti | shadeslayer: digikan | 13:11 |
| shadeslayer | thou shall install kipi-plugins for exporting stuff | 13:11 |
| apachelogger | meh | 13:11 |
| yofel | lol | 13:11 |
| apachelogger | packaging is so slow | 13:11 |
| apachelogger | ... | 13:11 |
| yofel | Delayed copy of kipi-plugins - 1.8.0-0ubuntu1~maverick1~ppa1 (source, amd64, i386) | 13:12 |
| yofel | stupid LP | 13:12 |
| shadeslayer | whut whut | 13:12 |
| shadeslayer | did no one copy kipi-plugins? | 13:12 |
| yofel | nope | 13:12 |
| shadeslayer | -.- | 13:12 |
| yofel | I did now | 13:12 |
| shadeslayer | huh | 13:15 |
| shadeslayer | Y U NO WORK SMB SHARES | 13:15 |
| shadeslayer | specially you kcmshell | 13:16 |
| yofel | hm.. bug 709219 | 13:16 |
| yofel | pyth0rn | 13:16 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 709219 in Kubuntu PPA "Eric does not start due a missing QtHelp module in PyQt" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/709219 | 13:16 |
| shadeslayer | everytime you mention python/java/kdebindings a unicorn dies | 13:17 |
| yofel | eeeeek | 13:17 |
| * yofel shuts up | 13:17 | |
| shadeslayer | yofel: apachelogger Riddell Quintasan_ http://i.imgur.com/B3dv9.jpg | 13:18 |
| Riddell | ho ho ho | 13:19 |
| yofel | lol | 13:19 |
| shadeslayer | something i saw in Readers Digest today :P | 13:20 |
| shadeslayer | oh also | 13:21 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: python and java are the 2nd leading causes of death among programmers .... | 13:21 |
| shadeslayer | C++ tops the list tho | 13:22 |
| Riddell | yofel, shadeslayer, Quintasan_: "Fix Cache issues using patches for kde4libs" task for neon can be marked as done? | 14:17 |
| shadeslayer | not yet i think .... | 14:18 |
| shadeslayer | oh that should probably be added to the issues page | 14:19 |
| === jjesse_ is now known as jjesse | ||
| Riddell | fabo: did you ever look at my qt patch review stuff? | 14:30 |
| ScottK | yofel: 709219 is fixed in Natty. | 14:49 |
| Riddell | bug 709219 | 14:49 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 709219 in Kubuntu PPA "Eric does not start due a missing QtHelp module in PyQt" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/709219 | 14:49 |
| yofel | ah | 14:49 |
| shadeslayer | anyone want some tea? | 14:51 |
| shadeslayer | i have a box of chinese tea infront of me :P | 14:51 |
| ari-tczew | I want some beer, but I can't drink because I'm on pills. | 14:52 |
| Riddell | ari-tczew: antibiotics being affected by alcohol is mostly an urban myth | 14:52 |
| shadeslayer | ari-tczew: sorry but i only have http://i.imgur.com/7J5ur.jpg | 14:53 |
| ari-tczew | Riddell: do you encouraging me to drinking? ;-D | 14:53 |
| Riddell | no, having a cold or other infection is probably a good reason not to drink alcohol :) | 14:55 |
| ari-tczew | :> | 14:56 |
| ari-tczew | pinentry works on natt | 15:03 |
| ari-tczew | y kubuntu!!!!! | 15:03 |
| shadeslayer | sadly its not working on natty :( | 15:03 |
| shadeslayer | erm | 15:03 |
| shadeslayer | s/natty/maverick | 15:03 |
| shadeslayer | sigh now *i* need a minion | 15:06 |
| shadeslayer | i have to write 3 articles for my departmental magazine :S | 15:06 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: it does work on maverick. | 15:09 |
| apachelogger | it's fun to stay at the YMCA... | 15:09 |
| davmor2 | \o/ non 0 | 15:11 |
| davmor2 | fail | 15:11 |
| shadeslayer | ah | 15:11 |
| apachelogger | what did you break | 15:11 |
| apachelogger | ? | 15:11 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: right ... seems its fixed | 15:11 |
| * apachelogger considered bug 709219 a feature | 15:12 | |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 709219 in Kubuntu PPA "Eric does not start due a missing QtHelp module in PyQt" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/709219 | 15:12 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: dude .. help needed on neon | 15:12 |
| apachelogger | why is that? | 15:13 |
| * apachelogger is now going on a break | 15:13 | |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: the qyoto bindings are all sorts of crap .... they have some dll's which are required by kimono | 15:13 |
| shadeslayer | and i cant get the dll's to be installed in /opt/project-neon | 15:13 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: https://code.launchpad.net/~neon/project-neon/qyoto-ubuntu | 15:14 |
| shadeslayer | awww | 15:14 |
| shadeslayer | thou shall help me in your break | 15:14 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: http://paste.kde.org/3531 << current FTBFS | 15:15 |
| apachelogger | dude | 15:16 |
| apachelogger | why is qyoto blocking neon? | 15:16 |
| apachelogger | also I find it silly to have bindings in neon to begin with | 15:16 |
| apachelogger | as bindings always break randomly due to api changes in libs | 15:16 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: apart from bindings pretty much everything is done i think | 15:17 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: i announced pre alpha on mailing list! | 15:17 |
| apachelogger | pre alpha aint work nothing | 15:17 |
| apachelogger | worth even | 15:17 |
| apachelogger | all in | 15:17 |
| apachelogger | you need a big launch | 15:17 |
| apachelogger | with glossy buttons of 2006 and stuff | 15:17 |
| apachelogger | a website | 15:17 |
| apachelogger | and a release song (if possible) | 15:17 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/ProjectNeon/Packaging?highlight=%28ProjectNeon%29 | 15:18 |
| shadeslayer | im going to fix these bindings, one way or another | 15:18 |
| shadeslayer | google makes Java look awesum | 15:19 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: around? | 17:03 |
| shadeslayer | nvm | 18:02 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: ^^ | 18:02 |
| ryanakca | knmap has vanished from the Debian archive (unstable anyways). What's the procedure to also make it vanish in Kubuntu? (there's already a KDE4 alternative) | 19:44 |
| ScottK | ryanakca: File a removal bug | 20:24 |
| === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan | ||
| ruphy | hi | 21:09 |
| ruphy | i have an application which has been PPA'd by harald sitter here: https://launchpad.net/~akunambol/+archive/ppa | 21:09 |
| ruphy | there is a big problem though | 21:10 |
| ruphy | haaa | 21:10 |
| ruphy | no :) | 21:10 |
| ruphy | harald rocks | 21:10 |
| ruphy | :) | 21:10 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: hi | 21:30 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: hey ... the issue was resolved :P | 21:36 |
| Riddell | the best sort of issue | 21:42 |
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