[00:00] debfx: I find bug 696345 quite valid [00:00] Launchpad bug 696345 in KdeSudo "kdesudo does not warn about fruther commands" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/696345 [00:00] the proposed solution is the crap though [00:01] ideally there would just be a config file to deactivate kdesudo session foobar [00:01] also it is not a security vulnerability [00:01] apachelogger: why? [00:02] debfx: to give people their windows feeling back [00:03] also there is a security implication from the session stuff [00:03] ... [00:03] say you do something using kdesudo [00:03] then leave the machine unattended [00:03] one could screw you big time at that point [00:03] without kdesudo session stuff they could just screw that one profile [00:04] so, since it is considerable little effort to actually implement such a feature I would be in favor of doing it once someone finds the time [00:05] maybe also add a kill switch like sudo [00:05] there is [00:05] kdesudo -s or somesuch [00:05] ah, yes [00:06] why isn't it it called -k like in sudo ^^ [00:06] prolly kdesu has the same option :P [00:06] yep [00:06] -s Stop the daemon (forgets all passwords) [00:07] from kdesu [00:08] oh dear: "--nonewdcop Use existing DCOP server" [00:10] ah the dcop code is commented out [00:12] dcop ftw [00:13] life used to be so much simpler with it -.- [00:26] [dragonplayer] sitter * 1217597 * branches/KDE/4.6/kdemultimedia/dragonplayer/src/app/ (mainWindow.cpp mainWindow.h stateChange.cpp) (log message trimmed) [00:26] Also supress screen power management when watching a film. Please note that this [00:26] currently does not seem to work on 4.6 as powerdevil does not seem to actually [00:29] [dragonplayer] sitter * 1217599 * trunk/KDE/kdemultimedia/dragonplayer/src/app/ (mainWindow.cpp mainWindow.h stateChange.cpp) (log message trimmed) [00:29] Forward port r1217597. Also supress screen power management when watching a [00:29] film. Please note that this currently does not seem to work on 4.6 as powerdevil [00:30] apachelogger: do you know why dragonplayer (optionally) uses xine directly? [00:30] dvdmenu shit [00:31] to be killed dead with phonon 4.5 [00:31] does that actually work when using a non-xine phonon backend? [00:31] debfx: when did the codec installer crash appear? [00:31] before the installer dialog appeared? [00:31] debfx: no [00:32] dragon actually has error messages talking about xine :D [00:32] most fun application evar ^^ [00:32] aha, so we can drop the xine dependency then [00:32] apachelogger: I can't reproduce the crash anymore after upgrading and installing the debug packages [00:33] well, if you could tell me a bit about what happened... ;) [00:34] oh [00:34] apachelogger: It is valid for it to be coded to use xine [00:34] I think I know why and what and when [00:34] I push the play button, the codec dialog pops up, amarok crashes [00:34] oh [00:34] that is odd [00:34] anyhow [00:34] (I know that's not one of the objectives of Dragon Just saying) [00:34] the package is missing a vital fixy [00:34] see kde-packager list [00:34] debfx: are you sure you did not maybe switch to another song while the installer was at work? [00:35] apachelogger: yes, I didn't even click on the codec dialog [00:35] odd enough === jtechidna is now known as JontheEchidna [00:38] apachelogger: amarok crashed again: http://paste.kde.org/3504/ [00:39] ha! [00:39] that is not my fault at all [00:39] haah [00:39] debfx: surely there were more threads though? [00:40] apachelogger: http://paste.kde.org/3505/ [00:40] yep yep yep [00:41] I did not break it [00:41] apachelogger: what amarok fix is missing? [00:41] it is the crappy qtwebkit shadeslayer was complaining about earlier [00:41] debfx: phonon-backend-gstreamer fix [00:41] debfx: https://projects.kde.org/projects/kdesupport/phonon/phonon-gstreamer/repository/revisions/3784b33b487a7db3f526a59a384d9a978be745fd [00:44] apachelogger: do we need the amarok vlc fix that markey suggested? [00:45] not if vlc 1.1.6 lands in the natty machine [00:45] !info vlc natty [00:45] vlc (source: vlc): multimedia player and streamer. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.6-1ubuntu1 (natty), package size 1374 kB, installed size 3532 kB [00:45] not needed then [00:45] also it is sort of limited in scope anyway [00:47] apachelogger: http://tinyurl.com/4es2b9c teh surprise [00:47] is it pr0n? [00:48] nop [00:48] JontheEchidna: you are wicked [00:48] and underdocumented :P [00:48] yeah... [00:48] I'll get around to that :P [00:48] * debfx wonders why libqtwebkit4-dbg went from 400 MB to 5 MB [00:49] & once I figure out how to get data files from the archive it'll be a suitable class for implementing a thumbnailer with [00:49] debfx: not containg crao? [00:49] debfx: or maybe lzma'd? [00:49] (the .ar data archive) [00:49] JontheEchidna, Why QLatin1String: can't most of those be unicode? [00:50] (in practice, for Ubuntu, it doesn't matter today, but still) [00:50] hm [00:50] man, non-latin characters for source package names and the like would be a pain [00:51] well [00:51] valid point though [00:51] I could see section and priority maybe getting l10n'd [00:51] + QL1S in a lib's return is evil I believe [00:51] but at least section isn't really meant to be human-readable in the first place [00:51] for exactly that reason [00:51] JontheEchidna: dont think l10n'd [00:52] think local distro [00:52] say a french makes a debian distro for french people ;) [00:52] e.g. BlankOn (although that's not French) [00:54] oh oh oh [00:54] apachelogger: the crash isn't amarok related, qtwebkit is completely broken [00:54] JontheEchidna: may I be naggy? [00:54] apachelogger: sure [00:54] debfx: that is what I said, is it not? ;) [00:54] JontheEchidna: why do you use @since but \return? [00:54] cargo cult apidox [00:55] pardon? [00:55] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cargo_cult_programming [00:55] but for doxygen :P [00:55] how dreadful [00:55] JontheEchidna: get your style fixed man :P [00:56] also, while I am at it.... technically that ctor there is not a defautl ctor :P [00:56] kubotu: google default constructor c++ ibm [00:56] Results for default constructor c++ ibm: 1. Default constructors (C++ only): http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/comphelp/v8v101/topic/com.ibm.xlcpp8a.doc/language/ref/cplr376.htm | 2. Default constructors (C++ only): http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/cellcomp/v101v121/topic/com.ibm.xlcpp101.cell.doc/language_ref/cplr376.html [00:56] 3. Initializing base classes and members (C++ only) - IBM: http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/comphelp/v8v101/topic/com.ibm.xlcpp8a.doc/language/ref/cplr388.htm [00:56] there ya go [00:57] JontheEchidna: I hope you see where this is leading [00:57] :D [00:57] :P [00:57] ...faulty software... :P [01:01] It was suprisingly easy to implement: http://gitweb.kde.org/libqapt.git/blob/92e1838ae6baf0c40ca8ccade3d4b59a149ae500:/src/debfile.cpp [01:04] Getting files from the .ar data archive will be a bit harder though [01:05] Wouldn't libdpkg be the handy way to dig those out? [01:09] persia: last I checked it did not provide anything useful in that direction [01:10] Ugh. Oh well. [01:11] JontheEchidna: oh, on that tought ... what debfile is missing is file listing ^^ [01:11] that is where dpkg-deb code gets dirty btw [01:11] like even if they did not have a horrible code style (if one wants to call it style) :P [01:12] yeah, file listing will also require me to extract the .ar somewhere [01:13] in fact, if you wanted to search for an icon for a thumbnailer you'd need to search the filelist for things that have paths like icons would [01:15] well, it is ugly that's for sure [01:15] maemo has app icons embedded in a special control field IIRC [01:15] makes all sorts of sense IMHO [01:18] I would like an Enhances-Description field to describe how $package enhances $otherpackage [01:19] which I could then use for listings addons for $otherpackage [01:24] oh btw, QtGStreamer is way way way more pleasant to use than regular-flavor gstreamer [01:25] new minty taste? [01:25] JontheEchidna: that is just because you are one of them people who do not like glib c apis :P [01:25] kill glib with fire! [01:26] look at its beauty compared to glib-based ugliness: https://projects.kde.org/projects/extragear/sysadmin/libqapt/repository/revisions/5af860db72a411337e7792f52475d2ed953d1f0e/diff/utils/qapt-gst-helper/GstMatcher.cpp [01:29] JontheEchidna: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ax_dq4DZk4A [01:29] * apachelogger needs to establish a policy ensuring that people only show him java code from now on [01:31] Riddell was right, you're becoming a Jahvuh Witness [01:32] well [01:32] look at the ugly code there [01:32] how could I not [01:32] stupid C* [01:34] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_WI0VI7aIw === rickspencer3_ is now known as rickspencer3 [07:52] DarkwingDuck: I'm here, btw [07:52] and I'll be around tomorrow night [09:32] Hi! [09:32] Where is the repository with the packaging scripts for kubuntu-ppa/backports? [09:34] afiestas__: but reports by slashdot comments http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1969946&cid=35028236 [09:34] devurandom: there's no packaging scripts [09:34] How did you package then? Not by hand I assume... [09:36] we keep the packaging in bzr, check it out, add a new changelog, and build [09:37] Well, "in bzr" sounds like what I am searching for. [09:37] Where is that code located, though? [09:37] bzr co lp:~kubuntu-members/kdetoys/ubuntu [09:38] see http://code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members [09:39] Thanks Riddell! [09:41] devurandom: what's your interest, are you going to become an elite Kubuntu Ninja? [09:42] No, I am searching for a patch against the plasma-overlay configuration widget, that allows configuring the background image. [09:48] Riddell: the seed blacklist doesn't seem to work, geoip-database is still on the cd [09:48] humbug [10:07] Turned out to be no patch by Kubuntu, but my Netbook being unable to do compositing. The plasma-overlay only allows background images in non-compositing mode. [10:07] But thanks again for your help! [10:16] Riddell: cool, after upgrading to KDE 4.6 final, this also magically fixed my issues with the SSH keyring thingie. now it asks me on startup again for the password [10:16] passphrase, I mean [10:17] and that works :) [10:36] Riddell: there are no changes between kde 4.5 and 4.6 that could affect bluedevil [10:36] people thinks that bluedevil is in kdebase or something, but it is not xd [10:41] debfx: see #u-d === yofel_ is now known as yofel [12:07] digikam is crashing for me after 4.6 update is there any ppa with it fixed? [12:10] shadeslayer: ^^ [12:19] dantti: natty or maverick? [12:19] digikam opens fine here [12:19] yofel: maverick [12:19] k, I'm on natty [12:19] :( [12:20] ah, someone filed a report about that - bug 708564 [12:20] Launchpad bug 708564 in Kubuntu PPA "Digikam chrashes after Initialization in KDE 4.6" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/708564 [12:22] dantti: what version of kipi-plugins do you have? [12:23] 1.4.0-0ubuntu2 [12:24] hm, we have 1.8.0 in ninjas, so I think that was forgotten when copying [12:25] yofel: right, what is the ppa url so I can try testing? [12:27] * Riddell msg'es to dantti the ninjas secret [12:30] yofel: is the package libkipi8? [12:31] and kipi-plugins [12:31] * apachelogger needs a kronos -.- [12:31] ah, wth [12:31] * apachelogger packages akunambol himself [12:31] the packaging todo is building up [12:31] I fear I do not even know how packaging works anymore :/ [12:31] currently we have kdepim, grantlee, qtgstreamer, attica, probably others [12:31] <3 grantlee [12:48] yofel: ok, installing kipi-plugins-common and libkipi8 solved the crash [13:09] dantti: that needs to be copied then, thanks [13:09] * apachelogger ponders changing his nick to javalogger [13:10] no [13:10] change it to public_static_int_main_logger [13:10] theres enough java in the world [13:10] no [13:10] mainlogger() [13:10] yofel: :/ tho the export menu (which I was interested in using) does not show anything [13:10] shadeslayer: ^ [13:10] dantti: in gwenview? [13:11] or digikam> [13:11] kipi-plugins copied [13:11] shadeslayer: digikan [13:11] thou shall install kipi-plugins for exporting stuff [13:11] meh [13:11] lol [13:11] packaging is so slow [13:11] ... [13:12] Delayed copy of kipi-plugins - 1.8.0-0ubuntu1~maverick1~ppa1 (source, amd64, i386) [13:12] stupid LP [13:12] whut whut [13:12] did no one copy kipi-plugins? [13:12] nope [13:12] -.- [13:12] I did now [13:15] huh [13:15] Y U NO WORK SMB SHARES [13:16] specially you kcmshell [13:16] hm.. bug 709219 [13:16] pyth0rn [13:16] Launchpad bug 709219 in Kubuntu PPA "Eric does not start due a missing QtHelp module in PyQt" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/709219 [13:17] everytime you mention python/java/kdebindings a unicorn dies [13:17] eeeeek [13:17] * yofel shuts up [13:18] yofel: apachelogger Riddell Quintasan_ http://i.imgur.com/B3dv9.jpg [13:19] ho ho ho [13:19] lol [13:20] something i saw in Readers Digest today :P [13:21] oh also [13:21] yofel: python and java are the 2nd leading causes of death among programmers .... [13:22] C++ tops the list tho [14:17] yofel, shadeslayer, Quintasan_: "Fix Cache issues using patches for kde4libs" task for neon can be marked as done? [14:18] not yet i think .... [14:19] oh that should probably be added to the issues page === jjesse_ is now known as jjesse [14:30] fabo: did you ever look at my qt patch review stuff? [14:49] yofel: 709219 is fixed in Natty. [14:49] bug 709219 [14:49] Launchpad bug 709219 in Kubuntu PPA "Eric does not start due a missing QtHelp module in PyQt" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/709219 [14:49] ah [14:51] anyone want some tea? [14:51] i have a box of chinese tea infront of me :P [14:52] I want some beer, but I can't drink because I'm on pills. [14:52] ari-tczew: antibiotics being affected by alcohol is mostly an urban myth [14:53] ari-tczew: sorry but i only have http://i.imgur.com/7J5ur.jpg [14:53] Riddell: do you encouraging me to drinking? ;-D [14:55] no, having a cold or other infection is probably a good reason not to drink alcohol :) [14:56] :> [15:03] pinentry works on natt [15:03] y kubuntu!!!!! [15:03] sadly its not working on natty :( [15:03] erm [15:03] s/natty/maverick [15:06] sigh now *i* need a minion [15:06] i have to write 3 articles for my departmental magazine :S [15:09] shadeslayer: it does work on maverick. [15:09] it's fun to stay at the YMCA... [15:11] \o/ non 0 [15:11] fail [15:11] ah [15:11] what did you break [15:11] ? [15:11] ScottK: right ... seems its fixed [15:12] * apachelogger considered bug 709219 a feature [15:12] Launchpad bug 709219 in Kubuntu PPA "Eric does not start due a missing QtHelp module in PyQt" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/709219 [15:12] apachelogger: dude .. help needed on neon [15:13] why is that? [15:13] * apachelogger is now going on a break [15:13] apachelogger: the qyoto bindings are all sorts of crap .... they have some dll's which are required by kimono [15:13] and i cant get the dll's to be installed in /opt/project-neon [15:14] apachelogger: https://code.launchpad.net/~neon/project-neon/qyoto-ubuntu [15:14] awww [15:14] thou shall help me in your break [15:15] apachelogger: http://paste.kde.org/3531 << current FTBFS [15:16] dude [15:16] why is qyoto blocking neon? [15:16] also I find it silly to have bindings in neon to begin with [15:16] as bindings always break randomly due to api changes in libs [15:17] apachelogger: apart from bindings pretty much everything is done i think [15:17] apachelogger: i announced pre alpha on mailing list! [15:17] pre alpha aint work nothing [15:17] worth even [15:17] all in [15:17] you need a big launch [15:17] with glossy buttons of 2006 and stuff [15:17] a website [15:17] and a release song (if possible) [15:18] apachelogger: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/ProjectNeon/Packaging?highlight=%28ProjectNeon%29 [15:18] im going to fix these bindings, one way or another [15:19] google makes Java look awesum [17:03] Riddell: around? [18:02] nvm [18:02] apachelogger: ^^ [19:44] knmap has vanished from the Debian archive (unstable anyways). What's the procedure to also make it vanish in Kubuntu? (there's already a KDE4 alternative) [20:24] ryanakca: File a removal bug === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan [21:09] hi [21:09] i have an application which has been PPA'd by harald sitter here: https://launchpad.net/~akunambol/+archive/ppa [21:10] there is a big problem though [21:10] haaa [21:10] no :) [21:10] harald rocks [21:10] :) [21:30] shadeslayer: hi [21:36] Riddell: hey ... the issue was resolved :P [21:42] the best sort of issue