| esing | sun-javadb-client is the correct original java plugin? | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| hblount | cool thanks guys | 00:00 |
| esing | *searching the original package to avoid incompatibility | 00:00 |
| szczur | esing, you mean the web browser plugin? | 00:01 |
| esing | yep | 00:01 |
| szczur | sun-java6-plugin | 00:01 |
| esing | grml i installed google earth but cant find it anywhere ^^ | 00:01 |
| esing | not working | 00:03 |
| esing | sun-java6-plugin | 00:03 |
| esing | says it is not availabke | 00:03 |
| szczur | should work | 00:04 |
| szczur | at least for me | 00:04 |
| szczur | huh? | 00:04 |
| esing | sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin | 00:05 |
| esing | then it says it is not available | 00:05 |
| szczur | did you enables the partners repository? | 00:05 |
| szczur | run synaptic | 00:05 |
| esing | no | 00:06 |
| esing | ok | 00:06 |
| szczur | Settings -> Repositories | 00:06 |
| szczur | on "Other sources" tab | 00:06 |
| szczur | or something like that | 00:06 |
| szczur | second tab :) | 00:06 |
| szczur | tick the partners repository and close the window | 00:07 |
| szczur | refresh the list of packages | 00:07 |
| szczur | and search for sun java plugin | 00:07 |
| szczur | these are the java packages i have installed | 00:07 |
| szczur | http://szczur.ath.cx/java.png | 00:07 |
| esing | not working | 00:09 |
| esing | :D | 00:09 |
| esing | commonjava is listed but java6 plugin not | 00:10 |
| szczur | hmm, should be | 00:11 |
| szczur | refreshed the package list? | 00:11 |
| esing | yes | 00:11 |
| esing | mb I should remove icedtea6 first? | 00:11 |
| szczur | and your repositories looks something like http://szczur.ath.cx/repo.png | 00:12 |
| szczur | ? | 00:12 |
| szczur | i mean the first entry | 00:12 |
| esing | yes first two entries exisdt | 00:13 |
| esing | others on the bottom dont | 00:13 |
| szczur | exists and are ticked? | 00:13 |
| szczur | :) | 00:13 |
| esing | sure | 00:13 |
| esing | :) | 00:13 |
| szczur | hmm, then i don't really know | 00:14 |
| esing | hehe :D | 00:14 |
| esing | nvm | 00:14 |
| szczur | sun java plugin is in partners repo | 00:14 |
| esing | maybe i find out tomorrow | 00:14 |
| esing | icedtea6 i can remove tho? | 00:14 |
| * szczur is puzzled | 00:14 | |
| szczur | don't know what is it so i'm not the right person to ask :P | 00:14 |
| szczur | wait for a moment | 00:15 |
| szczur | ahh, free java plugin | 00:15 |
| szczur | you can remove it if you want | 00:15 |
| esing | can i install java6 plugin directly from java.com? | 00:16 |
| esing | or will it be too dificult to compile etc? | 00:16 |
| esing | (never done before) | 00:17 |
| esing | i have found it now | 00:17 |
| esing | :D | 00:17 |
| szczur | i wouldn't do it. There may be more problems with removing it and etc. :P | 00:18 |
| esing | y ^^ | 00:18 |
| esing | it worked now | 00:18 |
| esing | I looked under J not S | 00:18 |
| esing | ^^ | 00:18 |
| esing | :P | 00:18 |
| szczur | so you have sun java now | 00:19 |
| szczur | i should say Oracle | 00:19 |
| szczur | :) | 00:20 |
| esing | yea :D | 00:20 |
| szczur | ^^ | 00:20 |
| esing | wi | 00:20 |
| esing | with ur help | 00:20 |
| szczur | glad you worked it out :) | 00:20 |
| esing | thanks :) | 00:20 |
| szczur | no problem | 00:21 |
| szczur | i'm bioterror's mentee. need to collect points :) | 00:21 |
| szczur | ^^ | 00:21 |
| szczur | I need | 00:21 |
| szczur | * | 00:21 |
| esing | hehe | 00:22 |
| esing | i can agree you captured 100% of possible points ;D | 00:23 |
| szczur | ^^ | 00:24 |
| esing | synaptic crashed | 00:24 |
| esing | *G* | 00:24 |
| esing | taskmanager doesnt show synaptic either | 00:24 |
| esing | *strange* | 00:24 |
| esing | *lol* | 00:37 |
| esing | now my system seem damaged | 00:37 |
| szczur | what synaptic says? | 00:38 |
| esing | it says something about dpkg process | 00:40 |
| esing | E: dpkg process is stopped | 00:40 |
| esing | "you have to to do manually sudo dpkg --configure -a | 00:40 |
| szczur | then run it :) | 00:40 |
| esing | k ^^ | 00:40 |
| szczur | it should work | 00:40 |
| esing | now it says | 00:41 |
| esing | The independences of 1 package of the system is defect | 00:41 |
| esing | chose filter "fecet packages " to show them | 00:41 |
| szczur | did you run "sudo dpkg --configure -a" | 00:42 |
| szczur | it shows it after running it, right? | 00:42 |
| esing | yes | 00:42 |
| esing | i run first sudo dpk .. | 00:42 |
| szczur | 'k | 00:42 |
| esing | then I restarted synpactic | 00:42 |
| esing | then it says 1 package is damaged | 00:43 |
| esing | it is java | 00:43 |
| esing | because java didnt install correctly | 00:43 |
| esing | what should I do now? | 00:43 |
| szczur | try to reinstall it | 00:43 |
| szczur | rightclick | 00:43 |
| szczur | select reinstall | 00:43 |
| esing | do I need sun-java6.jre | 00:44 |
| esing | or only sun-java6-bin + plugin? | 00:44 |
| szczur | jre too | 00:44 |
| szczur | i think | 00:44 |
| esing | now the same screen occures as before. it stops and when I click on details I see a shell with configure sun-java6.bin | 00:46 |
| szczur | close the synaptic | 00:47 |
| esing | not possible | 00:47 |
| szczur | what is in the shell? | 00:48 |
| szczur | can you do the screenshot | 00:48 |
| szczur | with details opened? | 00:48 |
| esing | i try to make a screenshot | 00:48 |
| esing | but how do i do this? | 00:48 |
| esing | i cant find "print" on my laptop | 00:48 |
| szczur | this would be helpful :) | 00:48 |
| szczur | hmm | 00:48 |
| esing | i found print | 00:48 |
| esing | i cant paste the picture in gimp | 00:48 |
| esing | hmm | 00:48 |
| szczur | check your home folder | 00:49 |
| szczur | if there's file that have scrot in it's name | 00:49 |
| esing | ah full of pictures there *G* ^^ | 00:49 |
| szczur | ack :/ | 00:49 |
| szczur | run terminal | 00:51 |
| esing | sec | 00:51 |
| szczur | run this command | 00:51 |
| szczur | scrot -d 2 synaptic.png | 00:51 |
| szczur | and go back to synaptic | 00:51 |
| szczur | :) | 00:51 |
| esing2 | http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/3875/201101280148341400x1050.png | 00:52 |
| esing | *G* | 00:52 |
| szczur | ohh | 00:52 |
| esing | two laptops here | 00:52 |
| esing | :) | 00:52 |
| esing | now iam with xchat online | 00:52 |
| szczur | ahh :P | 00:52 |
| szczur | click on the details "window" | 00:52 |
| szczur | pres tab | 00:52 |
| szczur | press enter | 00:53 |
| esing | lol | 00:53 |
| szczur | orr, press tab until the OK "button" | 00:53 |
| szczur | is highlighted | 00:53 |
| esing2 | so funny | 00:53 |
| szczur | worked? | 00:53 |
| esing2 | i would have had been stuck along time at that point | 00:53 |
| esing2 | sure it worked :D | 00:53 |
| esing2 | thanks | 00:53 |
| szczur | heh | 00:53 |
| szczur | and i would recommend installing | 00:54 |
| szczur | one package | 00:54 |
| szczur | for the future | 00:54 |
| esing | heh | 00:54 |
| esing | :)) | 00:54 |
| szczur | one moment | 00:54 |
| szczur | libgnome2-perl | 00:54 |
| szczur | this will create wonderful normal GTK windows | 00:54 |
| szczur | not these text ones | 00:55 |
| szczur | :> | 00:55 |
| esing | hehe | 00:55 |
| szczur | long night i'd say :) | 00:55 |
| esing | damn ye | 00:55 |
| esing | you live in europe too? | 00:55 |
| szczur | yup :) | 00:55 |
| esing | poland? | 00:55 |
| esing | ^^ | 00:56 |
| szczur | how did you know | 00:56 |
| szczur | ahh, my ISP | 00:56 |
| esing | because you told me earlier | 00:56 |
| esing | :) | 00:56 |
| esing | and your screenshot | 00:56 |
| szczur | true | 00:56 |
| esing | iam from germany | 00:56 |
| esing | very late | 00:56 |
| esing | its 1:56 now | 00:56 |
| szczur | i know this :) | 00:56 |
| esing | not good | 00:56 |
| esing | ^^ | 00:56 |
| szczur | from your screenshot | 00:56 |
| esing | hehe | 00:57 |
| szczur | with "long night", i wanted to say that i bet that there will be something more to do :) | 00:57 |
| esing | lol | 00:57 |
| szczur | it always ends like this :) | 00:57 |
| esing | heheheh | 00:57 |
| szczur | i screwed up my friends\ ubuntu installation | 00:58 |
| esing2 | lol what happened | 00:58 |
| szczur | because i wanted to make TV-OUT in his laptop work properly | 00:58 |
| esing2 | grml ^ | 00:58 |
| szczur | and i mage couple of xorg.confs | 00:58 |
| esing2 | tv and linux is more difficult than in windows | 00:58 |
| szczur | and a script to switch between them | 00:58 |
| szczur | but when it still ended up on being b/w | 00:59 |
| szczur | i gave up | 00:59 |
| szczur | and wanted to remove the files | 00:59 |
| esing2 | lol | 00:59 |
| szczur | i wasn't thinking at that moment | 00:59 |
| esing2 | you had no backup? | 01:00 |
| esing2 | ^ | 01:00 |
| szczur | and i issued the sudo rm -rfv /etc/X11/* command | 01:00 |
| esing2 | hehe | 01:00 |
| szczur | so it removed all the files, showing all the destruction | 01:00 |
| esing2 | wow | 01:00 |
| szczur | i ended up doing reinstallation to 5 AM | 01:01 |
| szczur | since it was 2 AM while i did the most stupid thing in my life :) | 01:01 |
| esing2 | i bet you learned much of this ^ | 01:01 |
| szczur | yeah :) | 01:01 |
| szczur | ^^ | 01:01 |
| esing2 | i wonder | 01:02 |
| esing2 | where i can find google earth | 01:02 |
| szczur | think twice when you're going to edit something in /etc :P | 01:02 |
| szczur | on google :P | 01:02 |
| esing2 | ye ^^ | 01:02 |
| esing2 | i alread installed the package | 01:02 |
| szczur | i have an idea, run synaptic, find the package | 01:03 |
| esing2 | good idea :D | 01:03 |
| szczur | rightclick it > select the properties | 01:03 |
| szczur | select the installed files tab | 01:04 |
| szczur | and check what files are in /usr/bin or /usr/local/bin | 01:04 |
| szczur | then when you got the name | 01:04 |
| szczur | you can run the program from terminal | 01:04 |
| esing2 | i tried this alread | 01:05 |
| esing2 | but it doesnt work ^^ | 01:05 |
| szczur | for example the file is called /usr/bin/googlespysystem | 01:05 |
| szczur | so run googlespysystem | 01:05 |
| szczur | ohhh | 01:05 |
| esing2 | lol | 01:05 |
| szczur | from where you got the package? | 01:05 |
| esing2 | apt get | 01:06 |
| esing2 | nah | 01:06 |
| esing2 | from synaptci | 01:06 |
| szczur | you mean googleearth-package | 01:06 |
| szczur | this one? | 01:06 |
| esing2 | yep | 01:06 |
| szczur | 5 sec | 01:06 |
| szczur | i'm doing it right now :) | 01:06 |
| esing2 | *G*^^ | 01:06 |
| szczur | there's program called make-googleearth-package | 01:07 |
| esing2 | mhm | 01:07 |
| esing2 | ah it is only a tool | 01:08 |
| szczur | now it is downloading some file from google | 01:08 |
| esing2 | to make a debia package of google earth | 01:08 |
| esing2 | *debian | 01:08 |
| szczur | i think it is the program | 01:08 |
| szczur | yup | 01:08 |
| esing2 | mhm | 01:08 |
| szczur | google earth doesn't weight only 80 kB | 01:08 |
| esing2 | ^^ | 01:08 |
| szczur | not really a debian package i think | 01:08 |
| szczur | don't know | 01:09 |
| szczur | will se | 01:09 |
| szczur | e | 01:09 |
| szczur | 2 minutes left | 01:09 |
| szczur | 1Mbit is killing me :) | 01:10 |
| esing | y ^^ | 01:11 |
| szczur | 30 sec left | 01:11 |
| szczur | will se if it formats hdd, make my monitor explode | 01:12 |
| szczur | or simply run google earth | 01:12 |
| esing | ^^ | 01:12 |
| szczur | yeah, it build the package | 01:15 |
| szczur | even found the website | 01:15 |
| szczur | about it | 01:15 |
| szczur | http://ubuntuguide.net/how-to-install-google-earth-in-ubuntu-10-10-maverick | 01:15 |
| esing | ah ok | 01:16 |
| esing | so I do it without synapctics | 01:16 |
| szczur | you already installed the needed package | 01:16 |
| szczur | -the | 01:16 |
| szczur | just run make-googleearth-package --force | 01:16 |
| szczur | ahh, and if you're running 32 bit system | 01:17 |
| szczur | don't run first command | 01:17 |
| szczur | "sudo apt-get install ia32-libs lib32nss-mdns" << this one | 01:17 |
| szczur | hmm, from the comments it feels like it failed to work :/ | 01:18 |
| esing | nah | 01:22 |
| esing | it worked perfectly :D | 01:22 |
| esing | i just had to wait | 01:22 |
| esing | until synapctic finished | 01:22 |
| esing | installing openoffice :D | 01:22 |
| esing | and iam a little slower now due iam so tired as hell ^^ | 01:23 |
| esing | it is still working .. | 01:24 |
| esing | with a lot warning | 01:24 |
| szczur | the make-googleearth-package command | 01:25 |
| szczur | ? | 01:25 |
| szczur | same for me | 01:25 |
| esing | yus | 01:25 |
| esing2 | wow it takes much time ^ | 01:25 |
| esing2 | still not finished | 01:25 |
| szczur | wait some more | 01:27 |
| szczur | if it willl not stop | 01:27 |
| szczur | press Ctrl+C | 01:27 |
| szczur | i'm trying something else | 01:27 |
| szczur | what ubuntu version you're running right now? | 01:27 |
| esing2 | now it says success | 01:27 |
| esing2 | iam running lubuntu 10.10 | 01:27 |
| szczur | 10.10? | 01:27 |
| esing2 | yes | 01:28 |
| szczur | ohh | 01:28 |
| szczur | it finished? | 01:28 |
| esing2 | yep | 01:28 |
| esing2 | hmm | 01:29 |
| esing2 | sec | 01:29 |
| szczur | or you pressed the Ctrl+C? | 01:29 |
| esing2 | yes i run lubuntu 10.10 | 01:29 |
| esing2 | no i didnt press ctrl c | 01:29 |
| esing2 | it finished well | 01:29 |
| esing2 | but the last sudo dpkg -i googleearth_5.2.1.1588+0.5.7-1_amd64.deb | 01:29 |
| esing2 | doesnt work | 01:29 |
| szczur | amd64? | 01:30 |
| esing2 | no | 01:30 |
| szczur | you're running 64 bit system? | 01:30 |
| esing2 | celeron 1,8 | 01:30 |
| esing2 | 32 bit | 01:30 |
| szczur | then why it creatied the 64bit package | 01:30 |
| szczur | :/ | 01:30 |
| esing2 | i just followed the instruction on your link | 01:30 |
| szczur | did you run the sudo apt-get install ia32-libs lib32nss-mdns command? | 01:31 |
| esing2 | ye sure | 01:31 |
| szczur | <szczur> don't run first command | 01:31 |
| szczur | <szczur> "sudo apt-get install ia32-libs lib32nss-mdns" << this one | 01:31 |
| esing2 | i did run it | 01:31 |
| esing2 | lol | 01:31 |
| szczur | then uninstall these packages | 01:31 |
| esing2 | why | 01:31 |
| szczur | it's for 64 bit systems | 01:31 |
| esing2 | grml | 01:31 |
| esing2 | ^ | 01:31 |
| esing2 | how can I uninstall it? | 01:32 |
| szczur | sudo apt-get purge ia32-libs lib32nss-mdns | 01:32 |
| szczur | he wrote it on the top of thej page | 01:32 |
| szczur | that he's running 64 bit system | 01:32 |
| szczur | that's why he had to install it | 01:32 |
| esing2 | lol | 01:32 |
| esing2 | iam dumb | 01:32 |
| esing2 | iam too tired | 01:32 |
| esing2 | ok it finished deleting | 01:32 |
| szczur | remove these packages | 01:32 |
| esing2 | now? | 01:32 |
| szczur | and run make-googleearth once again | 01:33 |
| szczur | or wait | 01:33 |
| szczur | i'm trying something | 01:33 |
| szczur | hmm, you know what? | 01:34 |
| esing2 | ye? | 01:34 |
| szczur | download and install this package | 01:34 |
| szczur | http://packages.medibuntu.org/pool/non-free/g/googleearth/googleearth_5.1.3533.1731-0medibuntu1_i386.deb | 01:34 |
| esing2 | ok | 01:35 |
| szczur | faster than waiting to end the make-whatever command | 01:35 |
| hblount | hi. i just installed google earth but when i try to start it, nothing happens. any idea whats wrong? | 01:35 |
| szczur | you installed google earth with apt get | 01:36 |
| szczur | I mean googleearth-package | 01:37 |
| szczur | from where you get these ideas :P | 01:37 |
| szczur | esing asked the same thing 30 min earlier :) | 01:38 |
| esing2 | lol | 01:38 |
| szczur | ok, maybe not 30 min | 01:38 |
| esing2 | hblount is trolling me :D | 01:38 |
| szczur | but the same thing :) | 01:38 |
| esing2 | he asks the same things as i do | 01:38 |
| esing2 | :D | 01:38 |
| szczur | ^^ | 01:38 |
| esing2 | *G* | 01:38 |
| esing2 | I bet he is bioterror | 01:38 |
| esing2 | :) | 01:38 |
| szczur | hahahahah | 01:38 |
| esing2 | *lol* | 01:39 |
| szczur | he's testing me | 01:39 |
| szczur | :) | 01:39 |
| esing2 | yes ! ^^ | 01:39 |
| szczur | bioterror, CONFESS!!! | 01:39 |
| esing2 | *lol* | 01:39 |
| szczur | hblount, you're running 32 or 64 bit system? | 01:41 |
| szczur | and esing2, does the package work? | 01:41 |
| szczur | have you installed it? | 01:41 |
| esing2 | hm I think i use the old package i installed yet | 01:42 |
| szczur | the one created by make-thing? | 01:42 |
| szczur | it is not installed right now i think | 01:43 |
| esing2 | hmm | 01:43 |
| szczur | if it would be you would have google earth in Internet submenu | 01:43 |
| esing2 | the one installed with synapatic | 01:43 |
| szczur | the googleearth-package is only the script to download the program | 01:43 |
| szczur | and make the normal package | 01:44 |
| esing2 | now I used this again sudo make-googleearth-package --force | 01:44 |
| szczur | you created one | 01:44 |
| esing2 | yes | 01:44 |
| szczur | ...for 64bit system | 01:44 |
| esing2 | with synaptic ealier | 01:44 |
| szczur | aaah, you created another one | 01:44 |
| esing2 | yep after i installed the google earth package with synaptic icreate rnother one | 01:44 |
| esing2 | yep | 01:44 |
| esing2 | :) | 01:44 |
| szczur | so my work is done | 01:44 |
| esing2 | yus | 01:44 |
| esing2 | thx | 01:44 |
| esing2 | i go sleeping too soon | 01:44 |
| esing2 | i have to tell bioterror | 01:44 |
| szczur | hblount, are you here? | 01:44 |
| esing2 | that you are very good in linux | 01:45 |
| szczur | it went from menu through java ending on google earth | 01:45 |
| szczur | i knew it it won't be normal night | 01:45 |
| esing2 | lol | 01:45 |
| szczur | esing2, i think he knows it :) | 01:45 |
| esing2 | ye me too ^^ | 01:46 |
| szczur | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pR1Mmxr2Cb4&feature=share | 01:51 |
| esing2 | damn notihng works | 01:52 |
| esing2 | should I deinstall al? | 01:52 |
| esing2 | damn iam starving in tiredness :D | 01:53 |
| esing2 | so late in germany | 01:53 |
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| hblount | hi. sorry. it installed properly i think.it is in menu | 01:56 |
| hblount | 32bit | 01:56 |
| esing2 | mhm | 01:56 |
| esing2 | i tried this too | 01:57 |
| esing2 | and it is in menu aswell | 01:57 |
| esing2 | but it doesnt run | 01:57 |
| esing2 | yours running? | 01:57 |
| esing2 | hblount | 01:57 |
| hblount | nothing happens at all when u click it right? | 01:57 |
| esing | ye | 01:57 |
| esing | nothing happens | 01:57 |
| hblount | yeah same here | 01:57 |
| esing | strange | 01:57 |
| szczur | with the version from the medibuntu? | 01:58 |
| szczur | or make-googleearth | 01:58 |
| szczur | ? | 01:58 |
| esing | no from synaptics | 01:58 |
| esing | i think it is medibuntu | 01:58 |
| hblount | i downloaded from google earth website and it let me choose "install" | 01:58 |
| szczur | i mean, the package that i gave link to it | 01:58 |
| esing | how can I download that package | 01:59 |
| esing | pls send the link again | 01:59 |
| szczur | or the one that you build with the instructions from the webpage | 01:59 |
| szczur | ok | 01:59 |
| szczur | http://packages.medibuntu.org/pool/non-free/g/googleearth/googleearth_5.1.3533.1731-0medibuntu1_i386.deb | 01:59 |
| szczur | this package works for me | 01:59 |
| szczur | please remove all other google eath packages before | 01:59 |
| esing | if i put that link | 02:00 |
| esing | in my browser i get redirected to ubuntuusers.de | 02:01 |
| szczur | huh? | 02:01 |
| szczur | hmm | 02:01 |
| esing | ah | 02:01 |
| esing | now it works | 02:01 |
| szczur | works for me | 02:01 |
| szczur | run terminal | 02:01 |
| esing | chromeus shows it in the bottom | 02:01 |
| szczur | heh :) | 02:01 |
| esing | it is downloaded now | 02:02 |
| esing | how should i run it? | 02:02 |
| esing | double clickß | 02:02 |
| szczur | doubleclick should install it | 02:03 |
| szczur | or run terminal | 02:03 |
| szczur | go to the folder where you downloaded it | 02:03 |
| szczur | and run | 02:03 |
| szczur | sudo dpkg -i googleearth_5.1.3533.1731-0medibuntu1_i386.deb | 02:03 |
| szczur | damn, i forgot about my kettle | 02:03 |
| esing | only 16 mb file | 02:03 |
| esing | uhm hurry ^^ | 02:04 |
| szczur | i would make my kitchen burn :) | 02:04 |
| esing | kettles are dangerous | 02:04 |
| esing | ^^ | 02:04 |
| esing | and everything for me ^^ | 02:04 |
| szczur | phew :) | 02:04 |
| esing | :) | 02:04 |
| szczur | now just drink some tea :) | 02:04 |
| szczur | yes, it is only 16 MB, and it works fo rme | 02:05 |
| esing | what should i do now | 02:05 |
| esing | it finished | 02:05 |
| szczur | at least i was able to track down osama bin laden | 02:05 |
| esing | ^^ | 02:05 |
| szczur | and my car on the outside | 02:05 |
| esing | it works | 02:05 |
| esing | awesome :D | 02:05 |
| szczur | my sisters car | 02:05 |
| esing | THX | 02:05 |
| szczur | i don't have one | 02:05 |
| szczur | no problem | 02:05 |
| esing | uhm | 02:06 |
| esing | computer crashed | 02:06 |
| esing | again ^^ | 02:06 |
| esing | ômg | 02:07 |
| esing | 3:06 | 02:07 |
| esing | i gotta go offline | 02:07 |
| esing | :) | 02:07 |
| szczur | maan :P | 02:07 |
| esing | szczur pls go sleeping too ^^ | 02:07 |
| szczur | check your ram | 02:07 |
| szczur | maybe it is the problem | 02:07 |
| esing | ye mb | 02:07 |
| szczur | not now | 02:07 |
| esing | got 1,5 gb | 02:07 |
| szczur | house md is waiting in the dvd drive | 02:07 |
| szczur | i was going to watch at least one episode :P | 02:08 |
| szczur | and i made some tea | 02:08 |
| szczur | :) | 02:08 |
| szczur | hblount, does it work for you too? | 02:08 |
| hblount | i was gonna wait and see if it worked for esing | 02:09 |
| szczur | ahh, mkay | 02:09 |
| szczur | safer way :) | 02:09 |
| hblount | how do i uninstall all google earth packages? | 02:09 |
| esing | i uninstalled it with synaptcics | 02:09 |
| esing | Just unmarked google earth packages | 02:10 |
| hblount | and you said this other one works for you? | 02:10 |
| esing | yes | 02:12 |
| esing | Just download it from the link | 02:12 |
| esing | double click it in the folder downloads | 02:12 |
| esing | and install it | 02:12 |
| esing | finished | 02:12 |
| esing | then go to menu / internet / googleearth | 02:12 |
| esing | szczur can I delete the .deb file now? | 02:12 |
| esing | or do I need it ? | 02:13 |
| esing | I will go offline now | 02:13 |
| esing | too late | 02:13 |
| szczur | you can remove it | 02:13 |
| esing | ok | 02:13 |
| esing | thx | 02:13 |
| esing | Have nice night | 02:13 |
| esing | cu | 02:13 |
| szczur | no problem | 02:13 |
| szczur | see you tomorrow | 02:13 |
| hblount | ok i try it too. thanks tea sipper | 02:23 |
| szczur | heh :) | 02:24 |
| szczur | no problem | 02:24 |
| Juanantonio | Hello, there | 03:45 |
| Juanantonio | I got a little problem | 03:45 |
| Juanantonio | I installed lucid to a PIII and it goes wonderfully, but I updated yesterday and it is not recognizing my 1680x1050@60 resolution | 03:46 |
| Juanantonio | What should I do? | 03:46 |
| bioterror | Juanantonio, you have to make xorg.conf and put resolution there | 04:10 |
| Juanantonio | Yes, I am being helped in ubuntu-es, thanks | 04:10 |
| Juanantonio | I will see if I manage | 04:10 |
| Juanantonio | By the way, lubuntu is wonderful | 04:10 |
| bioterror | you cheated us with a loco channel :( ;) | 04:13 |
| Juanantonio | loco channel | 04:14 |
| Juanantonio | no, no, hehehe | 04:14 |
| bioterror | local community | 04:14 |
| Juanantonio | Oh, yes, that's it | 04:14 |
| charliemac | How do I choose the correct Partitioning option when following <https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromWindows> ? | 09:27 |
| quem | hey, i guess this question would've worked in #ubuntu too.. but anyway. | 09:47 |
| quem | just wondering if it's possible to install lubuntu on a fat32 file system? | 09:47 |
| quem | i guess permissions would be a problem. | 09:48 |
| quem | but for the purpose i intend, it'd be convenient. | 09:48 |
| quem | (lubuntu on a usb memory so i can carry it with me.) | 09:48 |
| MrChrisDruif | quem: USB can also be reformatted to NTFS etc.... | 09:50 |
| quem | would i be ableto install lubuntu on ntfs? | 09:53 |
| esing | good morning | 09:54 |
| esing | i wonder how I can see a files format in lubuntu | 09:55 |
| MrChrisDruif | quem: You can also format to Ext2,3,4 | 09:56 |
| MrChrisDruif | I think the best of those three would be 2 or 4 in 2 mode.....journaling turned of.....journaling on USB causes unwanted writes | 09:57 |
| esing | (more exactly the file ending) | 09:57 |
| esing | MrChrisDruif you present? | 09:59 |
| MrChrisDruif | Yes half :) | 10:01 |
| quem_ | MrChrisDruif: currently i have two partitions on it, 6gb ext3 with ubuntu 10.04 and 2gb fat32, so i can use it on windows systems too if i want to transfer something to it. | 10:01 |
| MrChrisDruif | Little bit wasted from yesterday | 10:01 |
| esing | lol ** | 10:01 |
| MrChrisDruif | Would work I think :) | 10:01 |
| quem_ | can't linux just ignore all about ownership and permissions somehow... :) | 10:01 |
| === quem_ is now known as quem | ||
| quem | guess carrying two memories with me is an option too.. they're not clumsy after all. | 10:02 |
| quem | love those really really small ones by verbatim. | 10:03 |
| MrChrisDruif | Little pendrives aren't too big to carry around | 10:03 |
| quem | http://www.beststuff.com/images/articles/031009j.jpg | 10:03 |
| quem | yeah, i keep that 8gb in my wallet. heh. i guess it should be half the price by now. | 10:03 |
| MrChrisDruif | quem: Why have you got Ubuntu on ext3? | 10:04 |
| MrChrisDruif | On the pendrive? | 10:04 |
| quem | installed it long ago | 10:04 |
| quem | well, not that long. | 10:04 |
| quem | journalling unneccessary or should i rather use ext4? | 10:05 |
| MrChrisDruif | Well....afaik is ext3 just ext2 with journaling... | 10:06 |
| MrChrisDruif | On a normal HDD that isn't a problem, but on flash memory...meh... | 10:06 |
| quem | yeah | 10:06 |
| quem | ahhhh... yeah. | 10:06 |
| quem | more writes. | 10:06 |
| quem | that's a very good point. | 10:06 |
| MrChrisDruif | Yup... | 10:06 |
| quem | that's why i disabled swap on it. | 10:06 |
| quem | thanks for pointing it out | 10:06 |
| MrChrisDruif | But...what I've read somewhere that you can use ext4 speed without journaling... | 10:07 |
| quem | ah | 10:07 |
| * quem checks the tune2fs man page | 10:07 | |
| quem | reading about the ext4 features, i get reminded of how i've always missed creation timestamps... | 10:08 |
| quem | lazy me googled, http://fenidik.blogspot.com/2010/03/ext4-disable-journal.html | 10:10 |
| MrChrisDruif | Good going O:-) | 10:11 |
| quem | :) | 10:11 |
| charliemac | How can I to choose the right partitioning method from <https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromWindows> ? | 10:12 |
| quem | preparing for a trip to cameroon, wife thinks i'm nuts about bringing all the electronic junk i'm packing | 10:12 |
| MrChrisDruif | Indeed you are :) (sorry if I offended you :)) | 10:13 |
| charliemac | I was thinking of saving about 1/3 of the 80 GB hard disk for the remnants of WinXP in case I screw up the linux partition lol | 10:14 |
| quem | hehe | 10:14 |
| MrChrisDruif | charliemac: For a beginning ubuntero it's indeed a pretty good idea to keep the "known" Windows XP on the drive :) | 10:15 |
| quem | the ubuntu installer uses parted right? and can resize partitions? | 10:16 |
| charliemac | Yes, I thought so! Would that entail resizing the c:/ partition? | 10:16 |
| MrChrisDruif | But when you boot from the USB or CD and go into live-mode you can use gparted to first partition your drive if you want.....or use the installer's partition section | 10:16 |
| charliemac | I'm not sure I can use the USB or CD methods because my computer's a little funny that way... | 10:17 |
| MrChrisDruif | And yes, that would mean you resize "C:/" ;) (or sda1 in Ubuntu) | 10:17 |
| MrChrisDruif | Gparted should recognize the Windows partition etc... | 10:17 |
| quem | you should be able to configure that in bios charliemac | 10:18 |
| quem | boot order and options | 10:18 |
| MrChrisDruif | If your question is if your computer can boot from CD or USB....that kind of thing you check/alter in the bios or the bootmanager or whatever it's called...the latter is for single boot from a different media | 10:20 |
| charliemac | USB doesn't even show up in my boot menu, and I tried booting from the CD thru BIOS, but it couldn't make it happen! Kinda sad, not sure why. Currently in progress w/ Grub | 10:20 |
| charliemac | *GRUB | 10:21 |
| MrChrisDruif | We understood what you mend with Grub :) | 10:21 |
| MrChrisDruif | But how do you mean that? Progressing with Grub? | 10:22 |
| charliemac | Oh lol, I'm in the middle of installation already, but when it asked me about partitioning disks, I froze. In over my head? | 10:24 |
| MrChrisDruif | Nah...your not :) | 10:24 |
| charliemac | I was planning a windows partition, a fat-32 partition for shared files, a 3-5 GB swap/paging partion, and the rest I don't know lol | 10:28 |
| charliemac | Would that require manual partitioning, LVM, or guided partitioning? | 10:29 |
| === quem_ is now known as quem | ||
| MrChrisDruif | That would be manual I think...guided only asks for swap & separate /home | 10:35 |
| esing | MrChrisDruif xeon-enouf where can I start the programm I deleted the short link from? | 10:37 |
| MrChrisDruif | What do you mean? | 10:38 |
| MrChrisDruif | esing: ^ | 10:44 |
| esing | short question | 10:51 |
| esing | where can I see all programs I installed yet in a list? | 10:51 |
| esing | (only in synaptic when i installed it through synaptic?) | 10:51 |
| bioterror | dpkg -l | 10:52 |
| esing | MrChrisDruif I mean when I deleted the symlink, but I found out , i can find it in /usr/bin mostly or with which | 10:52 |
| esing | thx bioterror | 10:52 |
| bioterror | esing, always use apt-get or dpkg for installing ;) | 10:52 |
| MrChrisDruif | You can also save that list with piping right bioterror? | 10:52 |
| bioterror | dpkg -l > installed.txt | 10:53 |
| esing | awesome thx | 10:53 |
| MrChrisDruif | bioterror: Synaptic is a GUI for apt-get right? ;) | 10:53 |
| bioterror | yep | 10:53 |
| esing | btw bioterror your friend xzdecze helped me much yester day ^ | 10:53 |
| esing | thx alot | 10:53 |
| bioterror | esing, I noticed from log, he's a great guy | 10:53 |
| bioterror | no wonder he's my padawan ;) | 10:53 |
| esing | hehe | 10:53 |
| esing | *g* | 10:54 |
| MrChrisDruif | :D | 10:54 |
| esing | ( is it possible to search within a shell?) | 10:54 |
| esing | (because dpkg -l shows alot programs) ^^ | 10:54 |
| bioterror | esing, what you want to search | 10:54 |
| MrChrisDruif | dpkg -l shows installed programs | 10:55 |
| esing | I'd like to search within the list of dpkg -l | 10:55 |
| esing | in firefox I can click ctrl +f and search a text | 10:55 |
| MrChrisDruif | apt-cache search pidgin searches the repos for anything pidgin | 10:55 |
| esing | I'd like to search the text within the shell too | 10:55 |
| MrChrisDruif | Well...you could save it to a text file and search that atleast....but I think that it should also be possible to search with dpkg | 10:56 |
| bioterror | esing, dpkg -l |grep shell | 10:56 |
| MrChrisDruif | bioterror is more technically inclined O:-) | 10:57 |
| esing | ^^ | 10:57 |
| esing | thnx | 10:57 |
| bioterror | esing, dpkg -L bash |less | 10:57 |
| bioterror | I've kept some apt-get/dpkg teaching in here before too | 10:59 |
| MrChrisDruif | Yeah, the more you use it, the easier it becomes :) | 11:00 |
| esing | dpkg -l |grep shell is an awesome search command | 11:00 |
| esing | i will note it down | 11:00 |
| bioterror | esing, apt-cache search game |grep mmorpg | 11:01 |
| bioterror | actually | 11:01 |
| bioterror | you dont need grep for apt-cache | 11:01 |
| bioterror | you can do it 'apt-cache search project gantt' | 11:02 |
| charliemac | How can I avoid using guided partitioning (in GRUB) when there is 3.8 GB empty space at the beginning of the disk? | 11:03 |
| bioterror | charliemac, ?! | 11:05 |
| charliemac | I could just leave it there as an empty partition (FAT-32, used to contain recovery data) | 11:06 |
| bioterror | you can boot livecd, use gparted for deleting it and move it to another partition with resize | 11:06 |
| bioterror | I think | 11:07 |
| bioterror | :D | 11:07 |
| MrChrisDruif | afk | 11:07 |
| charliemac | I would if i could, trust me! ;) (Lol, my laptop refuses to boot from the CD) | 11:09 |
| esing | gotta go swimming x) catch you later up :) | 11:11 |
| esing | thx again | 11:11 |
| === quem_ is now known as quem | ||
| charliemac | LVM? | 11:14 |
| MrChrisDruif | Logical Volume Manager | 11:37 |
| MrChrisDruif | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logical_Volume_Manager_(Linux) | 11:37 |
| MrChrisDruif | But I don't know how that works | 11:39 |
| charliemac | Can my swap partition be at the beginning at the disk? I have 3.8GB of unused space there... | 11:40 |
| bioterror | can | 11:40 |
| charliemac | Is there a downside? | 11:43 |
| MrChrisDruif | Not that I know of....beginning is center of the disk if I'm not mistaking :) | 11:43 |
| MrChrisDruif | So would be better I would guess | 11:44 |
| bioterror | yes | 11:44 |
| bioterror | as the reader head moves less, it's faster | 11:44 |
| charliemac | Cool, good coincidence | 11:45 |
| charliemac | How do I make the choice between primary and logical? | 11:47 |
| MrChrisDruif | Logical isn't a "real" partition....you can put real/functional partitions on it... | 11:48 |
| MrChrisDruif | Seeing a Linux partition can easily take up 3 partitions (/,swap,/home) you can decide to put them all on a logical partition | 11:50 |
| quem | may i disturb you again, MrChrisDruif ? ;) any software i must not forget to bring with me? | 11:51 |
| * quem has already installed important things such as snes and nes emulators | 11:51 | |
| MrChrisDruif | How do you mean? Which software, bringing it were? | 11:51 |
| charliemac | Okay. How much space will I need for the various linux partitions? | 11:52 |
| quem | to cameroon. | 11:56 |
| MrChrisDruif | charliemac: If you want you can only take / (root partition), swap and /home are optional.. | 11:57 |
| charliemac | It looks like (<http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=282018>, <http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/partitioning>) some of those optional partitions might be helpful, as well as bonus fat-32 space. | 12:00 |
| MrChrisDruif | The swap needs to be AS big or bigger than the systems RAM for Hibernation and /home is handy for your files...so they won't be deleted when you reïnstall | 12:04 |
| charliemac | Ok. What does "mount point" indicate? | 12:05 |
| charliemac | How do I determine which mount point I would select? | 12:07 |
| MrChrisDruif | Well....:P | 12:07 |
| MrChrisDruif | Root partition (which is necessary :P) is / | 12:08 |
| MrChrisDruif | Home partition is /home | 12:08 |
| MrChrisDruif | And linux swap is swap | 12:08 |
| charliemac | lol ok because it's asked between " dos, windows, enter manually," and "don't mount" and I don't really know how to choose. | 12:09 |
| MrChrisDruif | What? | 12:10 |
| szczur | charliemac, what filesystem did you choose for the partition | 12:11 |
| szczur | sounds like fat or ntfs | 12:11 |
| charliemac | Went to set up a new partition, and after selecting file system, Fat-32, because it can be accessed from both WinXP & Ubuntu, and next I had to choose the mount-point and other mount options | 12:12 |
| szczur | you can't intsall ubuntu on fat or ntfs filesystem. you can acess these partitions but installation is not possible | 12:13 |
| szczur | for / you need to choose ext or reiserfs | 12:14 |
| szczur | don't know if /home needs to be the same | 12:14 |
| szczur | probably yes | 12:14 |
| charliemac | Ok, but I'll still set up the / partition last. Will 30GB suffice? Overkill? (I want to include the / as a primary and /home etc. as logical) | 12:14 |
| szczur | 30GB will be enough | 12:15 |
| szczur | even little too much | 12:15 |
| charliemac | Too much for root and home combined with whatever other data I may wish to backup? | 12:16 |
| szczur | if you create /home as separate partition you don't have to format it if you're going to reinstall the system | 12:17 |
| szczur | so even the programs configuration stays | 12:18 |
| szczur | and /home is the place when you normally keep data | 12:18 |
| szczur | so on / there's only installed programs | 12:18 |
| szczur | i have 15 GB for it | 12:18 |
| szczur | and it is enough for me | 12:18 |
| charliemac | I'm cosidering the advice of the "guru" who started the <http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=282018> thread, claiming that /data is better than /home - only for multi-linux computers? | 12:20 |
| MrChrisDruif | I've got 10GB for / | 12:20 |
| szczur | charliemac, he have /data partition to backup important data | 12:24 |
| MrChrisDruif | /data partition? | 12:25 |
| szczur | "you have a separate /home for some data and a separate /data partition to backup important data." | 12:25 |
| szczur | MrChrisDruif, i talking about http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=282018 | 12:25 |
| charliemac | What about a seperate partition for windows paging? | 12:25 |
| charliemac | Nevermind windows paging, its not like there was one before lol | 12:31 |
| victor__ | hello! i have a netbook and ubuntu gnome is too heavy... what differences lubuntu from ubuntu? | 12:32 |
| MrChrisDruif | That it uses LXDE instead of Gnome :) | 12:32 |
| victor__ | lol but what's the relation between lxde and openbox? | 12:33 |
| MrChrisDruif | Otherwise you should be able to do the same jobs on both systems...might be a little less flashy | 12:34 |
| MrChrisDruif | Well LXDE uses OpenBox as Window Manager if I'm not mistaking... | 12:35 |
| victor__ | and the performance get better with lxde? | 12:35 |
| MrChrisDruif | That I don't know....but LXDE is like the abbr. stands for Lightweight X Desktop Environment....it's a complete set of tools for desktop :) | 12:37 |
| MrChrisDruif | Need to reboot....new kernel update :P | 12:37 |
| victor__ | and is it possible to set thunar or nautilus elementary as the default files manager? | 12:38 |
| victor__ | MrChrisDruif, | 12:46 |
| victor__ | and is it possible to set thunar or nautilus elementary as the default files manager? | 12:46 |
| MrChrisDruif | Yes? | 12:46 |
| MrChrisDruif | Sure it is....but PCmanFM is also very light and works well with LXDE | 12:47 |
| victor__ | MrChrisDruif, yes but what about installing dropbox? :S | 12:49 |
| charliemac | Is Gnome or KDE more user-friendly than LXDE for someone coming off windows? | 12:50 |
| MrChrisDruif | I've heard there are some scripts that enable Dropbox functioning in PCmanFM....but if you install Nautilus(-Elementary) it works no prob... | 12:51 |
| MrChrisDruif | charliemac: Linux is different, no matter if you take Gnome or KDE or LXDE | 12:51 |
| charliemac | What DE's work best with SLiM? (I've had SLiM recommended to me in the past). | 12:52 |
| victor__ | ok i'm gonna install be right back ;) | 12:53 |
| MrChrisDruif | charliemac: LXDE comes with with it's own login manager....which works better with it then SLiM (just my own experiences)...however both Gnome and KDE should work with no problems | 12:54 |
| MrChrisDruif | But LXDE's login manager (can't remember it's name) is also very light :) | 12:55 |
| charliemac | How does PCmanFM weigh in? | 12:56 |
| MrChrisDruif | Almost the same as thunar I think, if nog lighter | 12:56 |
| charliemac | Is it LXDE just as easy as Gnome or KDE? | 13:00 |
| MrChrisDruif | I think so, the basics are the same :) | 13:00 |
| charliemac | What are the pros and cons to adding /boot and /tmp logical partitions? Are they completely unnecessary? What will happen without them? | 13:03 |
| charliemac | The linux partitioning guide at <http://www.overclock.net/linux-unix/11208-linux-partitioning-guide.html> would appear to indicate them as integral... | 13:05 |
| szczur | separate /boot partition would be nice if you have more linuxes than one. for /tmp partition don't know why it should be separate. Without them they will be created inside / partition | 13:06 |
| szczur | as separate folders | 13:06 |
| szczur | i don't have them as separate partitions | 13:06 |
| MrChrisDruif | charliemac: They will be added to the root nonetheless....however, some people would prefer separate /boot and /tmp with different filesystems | 13:07 |
| MrChrisDruif | For Beginner and even intermediate users they aren't necessary to create :) | 13:07 |
| charliemac | lol ok, but i like to leave myself with room to grow into new territory ;) | 13:08 |
| MrChrisDruif | You can always reconfigure the partition table :) | 13:09 |
| MrChrisDruif | You don't need to add everything you MIGHT like in the future :) | 13:12 |
| charliemac | MrChrisDruif: Without LVM? Ok, I'll have to keep that in mind.. SO the only thing I really have to figure out right now is the Windows partition, paging/swap, and the root? | 13:19 |
| esing | hi | 13:20 |
| esing | Is it okay updating the Kernel of Lubuntu 10.10 to 2.6.35 ? | 13:20 |
| MrChrisDruif | Yeah, you can change size by just booting a liveCD | 13:20 |
| charliemac | IFF the CD will work lol | 13:20 |
| MrChrisDruif | I'm not running Lubuntu, but my Ubuntu runs fine on the new kernel | 13:21 |
| esing | you have kernel version 2.6.35 ß | 13:21 |
| charliemac | MrChrisDruif: which DM and DE are you running on Ubuntu? | 13:21 |
| MrChrisDruif | Default...Gnome and GDM | 13:21 |
| MrChrisDruif | I need to burn the mini-ISO | 13:22 |
| MrChrisDruif | I want a AMD64 systemm | 13:22 |
| MrChrisDruif | -m | 13:22 |
| MrChrisDruif | esing: Updated today, running it now :) | 13:23 |
| esing | nice | 13:24 |
| esing | I will get it too then | 13:24 |
| esing | this -> sudo apt-get install linux-source-2.6.35 ye | 13:25 |
| charliemac | Do all of the DM's and DE's have broadly the same capabilities? | 13:25 |
| MrChrisDruif | esing: Isn't it an update for Lubuntu? | 13:26 |
| esing | hmm | 13:27 |
| esing | It is for ubuntu 10.10 | 13:27 |
| esing | but i have lubuntu | 13:27 |
| esing | is that a problem? | 13:27 |
| esing | I can still aboard the installation | 13:27 |
| esing | 80% | 13:27 |
| esing | hmm it is still showing the same kernel version | 13:28 |
| MrChrisDruif | charliemac: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_X_Window_System_desktop_environments | 13:28 |
| esing | sudo apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.35 | 13:29 |
| esing | can I do this too with my lubuntu 10.10 ? | 13:29 |
| esing | y/n ? :D | 13:29 |
| szczur | esing, ubuntu and lubuntu uses the same kernel | 13:30 |
| bioterror | it's just the candy that's different on the top | 13:30 |
| szczur | and parts of system like cli etc. only difference is the desktop environment and default installed programs | 13:30 |
| szczur | hi bioterror | 13:30 |
| bioterror | another one likes marshmallow and another salmiyuck ;) | 13:30 |
| MrChrisDruif | So it should prolly work | 13:30 |
| esing | :D | 13:31 |
| esing | hey szczur | 13:31 |
| charliemac | Thanks! | 13:36 |
| charliemac | MrChrisDruif: ^^ | 13:37 |
| MrChrisDruif | Your welcome :) | 13:37 |
| charliemac | What are the advantages of Ext3 with journaling over Ext2? | 13:37 |
| MrChrisDruif | Just that: it's Ext2 with journaling :) | 13:39 |
| charliemac | What's journaling all about? Does it log my every move? | 13:46 |
| charliemac | ... because that sounds bulky. | 13:46 |
| bioterror | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Journaling_file_system | 13:46 |
| charliemac | bioterror: thanks! | 13:47 |
| bioterror | next time you can google by yourself! ;D | 13:47 |
| bioterror | it's not really that hard, you go to www.google.com and you put some words you want to search like "journaling file system" | 13:48 |
| charliemac | lol, I was just going to, honest! :) | 13:48 |
| esing | what is the mimeinfo.cache ? | 13:49 |
| charliemac | Which file sys do you implement, personally? | 13:49 |
| charliemac | Because I'm wondering if the journaling is worth the extra resources, or if it slows things down a lot. | 13:50 |
| esing | How can I change a name in Lubuntu of a .desktop file ? | 13:55 |
| esing | right click "name changing" doesnt work | 13:55 |
| bioterror | edit with nano or leafpad or even with vim vi joe what ever you want to use | 13:56 |
| esing | I did this too | 13:56 |
| esing | didnt work | 13:56 |
| bioterror | it does work | 13:56 |
| esing | ah k | 13:57 |
| esing | now it works | 13:57 |
| esing | :) | 13:57 |
| esing | you are a very expert in linux | 13:57 |
| esing | never used windows before? ^ | 13:57 |
| bioterror | I've beta tested Windows ME and Windows XP | 13:57 |
| bioterror | I have some knowledge | 13:58 |
| esing | i see | 13:58 |
| bioterror | I can build AD for a small company | 13:58 |
| esing | nice | 13:59 |
| esing | i didnt find out what the app "screenlock " does yet | 14:05 |
| MrChrisDruif | Doesn't it "lock your screen" | 14:06 |
| MrChrisDruif | I.e. turn your screen black and makes your enter your password before you can continue working? :) | 14:10 |
| charliemac | I bet most linux users are more intellgent than microsoft users lol ;D | 14:13 |
| charliemac | see. just look @ how I spelled "intelligent!" | 14:14 |
| charliemac | Still, I'm wondering if the journaling is worth the extra resources, or if it slows things down a lot. | 14:14 |
| MrChrisDruif | Well, that overhead isn't really much... | 14:18 |
| esing | cool | 14:19 |
| MrChrisDruif | It just writes WHAT it's going to do before DOING said operation :) | 14:19 |
| ChogyDan | does lubuntu use networkmanager? if not, what does it use? | 14:19 |
| esing | with xchat i can go to more than 1 IRC servers | 14:19 |
| esing | awesome :) | 14:19 |
| esing | MrChrisDruif no it doesnt, that is why I wondered about its function | 14:20 |
| esing | MrChrisDruif it centers all windows but no more is happening | 14:20 |
| MrChrisDruif | What do you mean esing? | 14:20 |
| bioterror | with weechat my IRCing goes to eleven | 14:21 |
| esing | well the symlink "lock your screen" doesnt lock my screen | 14:21 |
| esing | wow are you on 11 server bioterror? ^^ | 14:21 |
| MrChrisDruif | afk | 14:21 |
| esing | Mrchrisdruif but when running it all windows will be centered on my screen but nvm thx tho | 14:21 |
| bioterror | esing, not really, just 4 | 14:21 |
| esing | ah ok ^^ | 14:21 |
| bioterror | esing, it was spinal tap -joke | 14:22 |
| charliemac | What percentage of the system's time is taken up through journaling? | 14:23 |
| szczur | esing, run terminal | 14:23 |
| szczur | amd tell me if this command locks the screen for you | 14:23 |
| szczur | xscreensaver-command -lock | 14:23 |
| esing | ok sec | 14:26 |
| esing | yes it does | 14:26 |
| esing | :) | 14:26 |
| szczur | hmm, then why screenlock icon doesn't | 14:27 |
| szczur | :/ | 14:27 |
| esing | dunno | 14:27 |
| charliemac | Does everyone here use the journaling version of Ext2, ext3? | 14:27 |
| bioterror | we use ext4 | 14:27 |
| szczur | ext4 | 14:27 |
| bioterror | that's like year 2011 | 14:27 |
| szczur | ChanServ, i wouldn't bother about the perormance side of ext3 | 14:27 |
| szczur | data security is more important i think | 14:27 |
| bioterror | except | 14:28 |
| charliemac | lol | 14:28 |
| bioterror | if he's using some usb pen drive | 14:28 |
| szczur | except the times when you're running debian on P166 | 14:28 |
| bioterror | then ext2 | 14:28 |
| szczur | or flashdrives | 14:28 |
| szczur | that's true | 14:28 |
| charliemac | ok... What about a 6-10 year old hard disk? | 14:28 |
| bioterror | install ZFS ;D | 14:28 |
| MrChrisDruif | esing: You were talking about that lock screen.... | 14:32 |
| charliemac | Is zfs pretty good? I was thinking of having a large fat-32 partition as a sort of reserve parachute but that would bring me to 4 partitions... | 14:32 |
| MrChrisDruif | Meh....don't talk on two conversations after 4 hours of sleep :P | 14:32 |
| MrChrisDruif | Finally; found it: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/33552/htg-explains-which-linux-file-system-should-you-choose/ | 14:42 |
| MrChrisDruif | Comparison of #nix filesystems | 14:42 |
| MrChrisDruif | However you can use Ext4's optimalisaties without journaling... | 14:51 |
| victor__ | hi! i'm here again! so ho can i make thunar the default file manager?¿ | 14:52 |
| victor__ | nautilus | 14:54 |
| MrChrisDruif | victor__: I think you can just install thunar or nautilus and remove PCmanFM | 14:55 |
| bioterror | edit xdg-open :D | 14:55 |
| bioterror | MrChrisDruif tells you what and where | 14:55 |
| bioterror | I'm off from work | 14:55 |
| MrChrisDruif | I do? =-O | 14:56 |
| bioterror | yep | 14:56 |
| MrChrisDruif | I don't know | 14:56 |
| victor__ | please! i want nautilus as a default | 14:57 |
| bioterror | and ofcourse, preferred applications is okay setup too | 14:57 |
| bioterror | preferences -> preferred applications | 14:57 |
| bioterror | I think there was filebrowser | 14:57 |
| victor__ | no just email and web browser | 14:58 |
| bioterror | well, then it's xdg-open | 14:58 |
| MrChrisDruif | Always try...if I only had Lubuntu installed atm....then I could look at the file myself | 14:58 |
| bioterror | you dont have? | 14:59 |
| victor__ | it's my first time on lubuntu :( | 14:59 |
| victor__ | where's xdg-open? | 15:00 |
| bioterror | sudo find / |grep xdg-open | 15:00 |
| bioterror | who has the fastest hard drive | 15:01 |
| MrChrisDruif | You? :P | 15:02 |
| MrChrisDruif | I don't care xD | 15:02 |
| szczur | /usr/bin/xdg-open | 15:02 |
| szczur | it's a script file | 15:02 |
| MrChrisDruif | yup... | 15:02 |
| MrChrisDruif | I've got it as well on "normal" Ubuntu | 15:03 |
| szczur | edit it with nano, gedit or whathever editor you want | 15:03 |
| szczur | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ#When%20clicking%20in%20Chromium%20%22Show%20in%20Folder%22%20it%20spawns%20a%20new%20tab%20that%20shows%20only%20directory%20listing | 15:03 |
| szczur | i think it is what bioterror meant | 15:03 |
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| bioterror | http://wiki.lxde.org/en/Desktop_Preferred_Applications_Specification | 15:04 |
| victor__ | what about get compositing? | 15:15 |
| charliemac | Is it possible to have a primary partition for the ubuntu swap in stead of a logical partition under the same partition as the root? | 15:19 |
| charliemac | Correction: Is it possible to have a seperate/unique primary partition for the ubuntu swap in stead of a logical partition under the same primary partition as the root? | 15:19 |
| charliemac | Sorry If my question belongs in #ubuntu-beginners :/ | 15:21 |
| szczur | swap can be either primary or logical partition | 15:22 |
| szczur | there's no difference there | 15:22 |
| szczur | but i prefer swap as logical | 15:22 |
| szczur | victor__, did you found out how to change default file manager? | 15:23 |
| victor__ | nop :( | 15:23 |
| szczur | right click on lxpanel | 15:23 |
| szczur | choose settings | 15:24 |
| szczur | on advanced tab you have file manager entry | 15:24 |
| szczur | replace pcmanfm %s with thunar %s | 15:24 |
| szczur | and you're done | 15:24 |
| szczur | did you find it? | 15:25 |
| victor__ | thanks so much! :P | 15:25 |
| szczur | no problem | 15:25 |
| victor__ | szczur, what about compsiting? is it possible? | 15:25 |
| szczur | you can use xcompmgr | 15:26 |
| szczur | don't know if compiz works | 15:26 |
| szczur | i think it should | 15:26 |
| szczur | but i used xcompmgr without problems | 15:26 |
| szczur | just put it in /etx/xdg/lxsession/LXDE/autostart | 15:27 |
| szczur | as @xcompmgr | 15:27 |
| szczur | and compositing will be enabled at the start of the system | 15:28 |
| szczur | you can try compiz | 15:29 |
| szczur | plus compiz-icon to control it easily (this will put an icon in taskbar to change all of the options) | 15:29 |
| charliemac | Does the /Boot partition have to be primary, or can it be logical? | 15:30 |
| szczur | you don't have to make separate /boot partition | 15:30 |
| szczur | every partition can be logical, (except the windows one, because Windows can't boot from logical ones, at least every windows to XP including ) | 15:31 |
| szczur | including XP* | 15:31 |
| szczur | charliemac, easiest way to go would be creating /home, /, swap | 15:32 |
| victor__ | szczur, and to start dropbox at the startup just add @ dropbox here? /etx/xdg/lxsession/LXDE/autostart | 15:32 |
| szczur | victor__, never used dropbox | 15:33 |
| szczur | but if you're running it this way from cli | 15:33 |
| victor__ | ok i'm trying | 15:33 |
| szczur | i think it is the correct way to do it | 15:33 |
| szczur | and LXDe folder may be called Lubuntu too | 15:34 |
| szczur | please check this before changing anything | 15:34 |
| bioterror | i thought we use .desktop files in autostart | 15:35 |
| bioterror | just pointing to openbox conv | 15:36 |
| bioterror | dropbox, sorry | 15:36 |
| szczur | don't know | 15:36 |
| szczur | i put commands like i would run it in terminal | 15:37 |
| bioterror | i use .desktop | 15:37 |
| szczur | but i'm talking about /etx/xdg/lxsession/LXDE/autostart file | 15:38 |
| victor__ | szczur, compositing didn't start :( | 15:39 |
| szczur | hmmm | 15:39 |
| victor__ | or perharps i don't know if it's active lol | 15:40 |
| szczur | run lxterminal | 15:40 |
| victor__ | and then? | 15:41 |
| bioterror | titia@konna:~/.config/autostart$ ls | 15:41 |
| bioterror | conky.desktop xfce4-settings-helper-autostart.desktop xfconf-migration-4.6.desktop | 15:41 |
| bioterror | guess whos conky starts on login | 15:42 |
| szczur | victor__, Edit -> preferences | 15:42 |
| szczur | background | 15:42 |
| szczur | and set opacity to for example 160 | 15:43 |
| bioterror | szczur, thats correct way for lubuntu as its per user | 15:43 |
| szczur | and tell me if lxtemrinal is transparent | 15:43 |
| victor__ | ok wait | 15:44 |
| victor__ | i don't find bachground | 15:44 |
| szczur | Edit > Preferences | 15:46 |
| szczur | on Style tab, there's Background colour | 15:46 |
| szczur | where you can change it | 15:46 |
| charliemac | What would the mount-point be for a windows/linux shared fat-32 shared space? | 15:47 |
| bioterror | charlie, /media/share | 15:48 |
| bioterror | or what ever you want | 15:49 |
| charliemac | bioterror: The only options I have in grub are /DOS, /windows, enter manually, and do not mount it. I take it you're suggesting I enter it manually, no? What if I choose no-mount? | 15:51 |
| szczur | charliemac, i would use ntfs | 15:51 |
| szczur | not fat32 | 15:51 |
| szczur | if you choose not to mount, the partition will not be mounted | 15:51 |
| charliemac | What are the implications of ntfs vs fat32? | 15:52 |
| bioterror | are you a troll | 15:52 |
| szczur | max file size of fat32 is 4 GB | 15:52 |
| bioterror | honest answer | 15:52 |
| charliemac | troll?! who lol | 15:52 |
| bioterror | yep, ure a troll | 15:53 |
| charliemac | what's that even mean in this context? | 15:53 |
| bioterror | !troll | 15:54 |
| bioterror | doesnt know :( | 15:54 |
| charliemac | ? | 15:55 |
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| szczur | charliemac, http://www.theeldergeek.com/ntfs_or_fat32_file_system.htm < i think it is obvious :P | 15:58 |
| charliemac | can all file systems hold the same formats? For example, will an Mp3 take up the same amount of space on a fat-32 as it would on Ext2? | 16:01 |
| bioterror | ... | 16:01 |
| bioterror | try it out | 16:02 |
| bioterror | make fat32 | 16:02 |
| bioterror | unzip whole hvsc into it | 16:02 |
| bioterror | and then take lets say reiserfs | 16:03 |
| bioterror | and tell us if theres difference | 16:03 |
| charliemac | I've actually read that "Linux has a history of disliking NTFS so it should be avoided whenever possible." <http://www.overclock.net/linux-unix/11208-linux-partitioning-guide.html>. | 16:03 |
| bioterror | which was written 2005 when they didnt have any clue about NTFS-3G or NTFS-FUSE | 16:14 |
| bioterror | oh gsus | 16:15 |
| szczur | gsus? | 16:20 |
| * szczur starts firefox | 16:20 | |
| szczur | :) | 16:20 |
| szczur | whoa ipv6 address ;) | 16:21 |
| szczur | hi guylain | 16:21 |
| guylain | hi szczur, just installing lubuntu and checking the apps. sorry for disturbing you... :) | 16:22 |
| * szczur wasn't disturbed at all | 16:22 | |
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| esing | hey :L) | 17:28 |
| esing | I need to configure my own kernel | 17:28 |
| ChogyDan | anyone know about networkmanager in lubuntu? | 17:37 |
| esing | hi | 17:46 |
| ChogyDan | hi | 17:46 |
| esing | I wanted to compile a program which doesnt worked, could it be that there is more difference between ubuntu 10.10 and lubuntu 10.10 than the desktop environement lxde?? | 17:46 |
| ChogyDan | *shrug* what program? | 17:47 |
| esing | it from dedected | 17:47 |
| esing | (dedected.org) for testings dect phones | 17:47 |
| esing | with a "com on air pcmcia III card" | 17:48 |
| ChogyDan | maybe pastebin all your terminal output? | 17:48 |
| esing | see here http://pastebin.com/7P1PKE3b | 17:49 |
| ChogyDan | is it a kernel patch? | 17:50 |
| esing | bioterror you there? :)) | 17:50 |
| bioterror | not taking part in this, not my speciality | 17:50 |
| bioterror | ;) | 17:50 |
| esing | hehe | 17:50 |
| esing | ChogyDan i compiled the program with this | 17:51 |
| esing | ChogyDan sudo make && make -C tools | 17:51 |
| esing | bioterror | 17:51 |
| esing | but could it be that lubuntu has a slightly different kernel than ubuntu | 17:51 |
| ChogyDan | I doubt it | 17:52 |
| bioterror | no | 17:52 |
| esing | but someone tells me to install ubuntu 10.10 to check if it works there | 17:52 |
| esing | should I do it or not? | 17:52 |
| ChogyDan | try sudo -i, and then running the make stuff | 17:53 |
| esing | not working | 17:53 |
| bioterror | did you use alternate install? | 17:53 |
| bioterror | or was it lubuntu-10.10.iso? | 17:54 |
| esing | it was lubuntu 10.10 | 17:55 |
| esing | not alternate | 17:55 |
| esing | hmm | 17:57 |
| esing | btw | 17:57 |
| esing | someone can send me the chromium simlink | 17:57 |
| esing | I deleted it | 17:57 |
| esing | :P | 17:57 |
| ChogyDan | esing: it looks like it is tripping up on some kernel code, and it looks like the project hasn't been updated for 2 years | 17:58 |
| ChogyDan | probably it is just out of date :( | 17:59 |
| esing | yes this could be | 17:59 |
| esing | hmm | 17:59 |
| esing | in the tutorial they said I need following kernel ... | 18:00 |
| esing | sudo apt-get install linux-source-2.6.35 | 18:00 |
| esing | how can I get that kernel? | 18:00 |
| ChogyDan | what does uname -a say for you? | 18:01 |
| esing | 3 2.6.35-25-generic | 18:02 |
| esing | it is the same? isnt it ? | 18:02 |
| ChogyDan | yea | 18:02 |
| esing | sudo apt-get install linux-tools-2.6.35-22 | 18:03 |
| esing | ( i should get that too) | 18:03 |
| esing | I did it too | 18:03 |
| ChogyDan | sorry I dunno, gl | 18:04 |
| esing | *lol* | 18:04 |
| esing | thx | 18:04 |
| esing | tho | 18:04 |
| ChogyDan | np | 18:05 |
| esing | bioterror :D | 18:10 |
| esing | could you have a short look on it with teamviewer? ^ | 18:10 |
| esing | ^^ | 18:10 |
| esing | http://www.teamviewer.com/de/download/index.aspx | 18:10 |
| esing | your professional eye is required xD | 18:10 |
| esing | szczur here? :P | 18:13 |
| esing | *nerving* | 18:13 |
| bioterror | that's not how we deal with problems | 18:23 |
| esing | *usually* | 18:27 |
| esing | this problems is expoding my nerves | 18:27 |
| esing | :D | 18:27 |
| esing | Pleeeease Help Somebody :((((((((( | 18:31 |
| esing | :((((((((((( | 18:31 |
| szczur | esing, what's the problem? | 18:36 |
| szczur | hmm, never used teamviewer | 18:38 |
| szczur | scan't help ypu with it | 18:38 |
| szczur | since i don't have LAN in my home | 18:39 |
| esing | re | 18:47 |
| esing | szczur I wanted to install a driver for my pcmcia III com on air card (dect card) | 18:47 |
| esing | but when compiling several error occure | 18:47 |
| szczur | ack :/ | 18:48 |
| esing | http://pastebin.com/7P1PKE3b | 18:48 |
| esing | ^ | 18:48 |
| bioterror | maybe you're missing some -dev -files? | 18:48 |
| bioterror | I'm too lazy to svn or git that source | 18:49 |
| esing | heh c'mon | 18:49 |
| esing | how do I delete all files? just remove the folder via gui? | 18:49 |
| esing | then I can redownload all | 18:49 |
| esing | szczur i think u dont need lan for teamviewer, only your internet IP ;) | 18:50 |
| esing | or better to say my internet IP when you access my computer | 18:50 |
| szczur | yeah, but i love to test something | 18:52 |
| szczur | before telling the solution | 18:52 |
| esing | okay | 18:52 |
| szczur | otherwise you're going to install packages for 64 bits :P | 18:52 |
| esing | *g* | 18:52 |
| szczur | :> | 18:52 |
| esing | suczur you and me were too long awake yesterdya | 18:54 |
| esing | ^^ | 18:54 |
| szczur | have to go with the dog | 18:54 |
| szczur | be right back | 18:54 |
| szczur | 10 mins | 18:54 |
| esing | okay | 18:55 |
| esing | cleaned the whole home at this time *smile* | 19:11 |
| bioterror | :) | 19:11 |
| bioterror | you seem to be rm -rf(trigger) happy ; | 19:11 |
| esing | what do you mean with rm -rf(trigger) ^^ | 19:12 |
| esing | i googled it but cant find out what it is ^^ | 19:13 |
| bioterror | rm = remove | 19:13 |
| bioterror | -r = recursive | 19:13 |
| bioterror | -f = force | 19:13 |
| esing | lol ^^ | 19:13 |
| bioterror | http://www.thefreedictionary.com/trigger-happy | 19:13 |
| esing | Iam not a trigger :P | 19:14 |
| esing | bioterror pls link in :D | 19:15 |
| esing | svn co :P | 19:15 |
| szczur | back | 19:17 |
| bioterror | szczur, you better have a mastiff dog | 19:18 |
| szczur | compilation faild with the same error | 19:18 |
| szczur | nope | 19:18 |
| szczur | normal dog | 19:19 |
| szczur | wiki calls it "Mixed-breed dog" :P | 19:19 |
| esing | yeaaa | 19:20 |
| bioterror | those usually lives longer than pure breeded | 19:20 |
| esing | we have daily a cat visiting us from our neighbour | 19:20 |
| szczur | wish they hadn't :P | 19:20 |
| szczur | at least this particular dog | 19:20 |
| szczur | :) | 19:20 |
| esing | she likes eating fish meal | 19:20 |
| bioterror | ahhh | 19:20 |
| esing | *g* | 19:21 |
| bioterror | this is sloooow | 19:21 |
| bioterror | I'm used to my desktop and arch mirrors | 19:21 |
| bioterror | 32% [1 linux-source-2.6.37 25.3 MB/77.5 MB 32%] 1,050 kB/s 49s | 19:21 |
| esing | let us all solve my problem :D | 19:22 |
| esing | see what this user wrote: | 19:23 |
| esing | <dm8tbr> if the sources haven't been updated you won't get the kernel modules compiled | 19:23 |
| esing | <dm8tbr> userspace won't help you in such a case. so make sure your kernel module works first. | 19:23 |
| esing | szczur tanked enough energy for teamplayer? | 19:24 |
| szczur | teamviewer? | 19:24 |
| esing | yus | 19:25 |
| esing | you can see my laptop, just have to give u my ip | 19:25 |
| esing | see what this user just wrote to me | 19:25 |
| esing | <roox> the reverse engineered drivers from dedected.org won | 19:25 |
| esing | <roox> t work on actual kernels | 19:25 |
| esing | <roox> https://dedected.org/trac/ticket/139 | 19:25 |
| esing | <roox> you have to use an older one to use dect_cli and so on | 19:25 |
| esing | <roox> use Patrick McHardys DECT Stack to get dect working with actual linux kernels | 19:25 |
| esing | * Fatuo (~FuegoFatu@84.121.72.188.dyn.user.ono.com) hat #osmocom betreten | 19:25 |
| esing | szczur and bioterror I think I need to get an old kernel or customize my kernel | 19:27 |
| szczur | never did it successfully | 19:27 |
| szczur | so i wont be helpful here | 19:27 |
| esing | hmm | 19:27 |
| esing | bioterror ^^ | 19:28 |
| esing | *eyes looking on you* | 19:28 |
| esing | *lol* | 19:28 |
| esing | bioterror .. | 19:32 |
| bioterror | hahahahaha | 19:33 |
| bioterror | % make && make -C tools .:21:32:33 on 11-01-28:. | 19:33 |
| bioterror | make -C /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build/ M=/tmp/dedected/com-on-air_cs-linux modules | 19:33 |
| bioterror | make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.37-ARCH/build/: No such file or directory. Stop. | 19:33 |
| bioterror | make: *** [default] Error 2 | 19:33 |
| bioterror | sowwy | 19:34 |
| szczur | :/ ack | 19:35 |
| szczur | this wasn't helpful at all :P | 19:35 |
| esing | ? | 19:37 |
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| szczur | bwahahaha | 19:39 |
| szczur | teamviewer is windows program packed with wine | 19:40 |
| szczur | woot | 19:40 |
| szczur | nevermind | 19:40 |
| szczur | esing, are you running teamviewer right now? | 19:40 |
| szczur | so i can connect to you? | 19:40 |
| esing | second | 19:41 |
| esing | I just get some usefull patches | 19:42 |
| esing | :) | 19:42 |
| victor__ | hey how can i make xcompmgr start at reboot? | 19:43 |
| szczur | you're sure that you're not running it after the thing we did earlier? | 19:44 |
| szczur | ps aux | grep xcompmgr | 19:44 |
| szczur | run this in terminal | 19:44 |
| victor__ | szczur, victor 1558 0.0 0.0 4024 764 pts/0 S+ 20:45 0:00 grep --color=auto xcompmgr | 19:45 |
| szczur | ack :/ | 19:46 |
| szczur | ok, lemme try something | 19:46 |
| victor__ | what do i exactly have to write on autostart? | 19:46 |
| szczur | i had @xcompmgr | 19:46 |
| szczur | but we will do it bioterror's way | 19:47 |
| szczur | victor__, download this file http://szczur.ath.cx/xcompmgr.desktop | 19:49 |
| szczur | and put it in ~/.config/autostart | 19:49 |
| szczur | then log out and log in | 19:49 |
| szczur | xcompmgr should be running | 19:50 |
| bioterror | probably needs a tap in to something in preferences | 19:50 |
| bioterror | not using lxde atm | 19:50 |
| szczur | be right back | 19:51 |
| szczur | just checking if it is working | 19:51 |
| victor__ | ok | 19:51 |
| szczur | yes, it works :) | 19:53 |
| bioterror | ofcourse | 19:54 |
| bioterror | now you remember how to make app to autostart ;) | 19:54 |
| szczur | :P | 19:54 |
| esing | szczur iam soon finished with my attempt | 19:57 |
| esing | then you are free to enter my lap :D | 19:57 |
| esing | some guy sent me some patches I should try to use on the driver | 19:57 |
| victor__ | szczur, don't worry it isn't that important... however dropbox is... i got installing it but no chance at statup :( | 20:03 |
| esing | szczur iam stuck currently cant do anything at this laptop | 20:06 |
| esing | there comes an error | 20:06 |
| esing | after trying to run /home/user as root | 20:06 |
| esing | how can I close the error ? | 20:07 |
| szczur | ummm, what youre trying to run as root? | 20:08 |
| szczur | what command | 20:09 |
| esing | i run the file manager as root | 20:20 |
| esing | in the folder /home/user | 20:21 |
| szczur | and something like "Permission denied" popped up? | 20:27 |
| szczur | click ok :) | 20:28 |
| esing | ok re | 20:34 |
| esing | :) | 20:34 |
| esing | i was disced | 20:34 |
| esing | yep I clicked ok | 20:34 |
| esing | but it didnt close | 20:34 |
| esing | I tried sudo killall pcfanman | 20:34 |
| esing | szczur I tried to patch the driver but an error occures see here http://pastebin.com/FWDBu3z3 | 20:35 |
| szczur | sudo patch -Np1 -i patch1 | 20:35 |
| szczur | this will work i think | 20:35 |
| esing | ok thx | 20:36 |
| esing | that is the same | 20:36 |
| esing | I tried | 20:36 |
| esing | ah np1 | 20:36 |
| esing | :) | 20:36 |
| esing | still failed | 20:37 |
| szczur | hmmm p1 should work | 20:37 |
| szczur | anything changed? | 20:37 |
| esing | same errors | 20:37 |
| szczur | give me this patch | 20:38 |
| esing | hmm p2 worked | 20:38 |
| esing | but patch1 not | 20:38 |
| esing | want to access to my pc now? | 20:38 |
| esing | :) | 20:38 |
| esing | sec I download teamviwer | 20:38 |
| esing | :)) | 20:38 |
| szczur | nope, i want to get the patch :) | 20:39 |
| esing | hehe | 20:39 |
| esing | you have an email? | 20:39 |
| esing | send me you email then I can send you all 8 patches | 20:40 |
| szczur | magik17l@gmail.com | 20:41 |
| esing | thnx | 20:41 |
| bioterror | seems like someone is not going to give up easily | 20:41 |
| esing | ok out | 20:42 |
| esing | hehe bioterror , you are the funniest one ^^ | 20:42 |
| esing | *smile* ^^ | 20:43 |
| esing | szczur received? | 20:43 |
| szczur | yup | 20:44 |
| esing | grml I wanted to read this night a swedish book ^^, but lubuntu is more important :D | 20:45 |
| esing | i think patch 2 didnt work too | 20:47 |
| esing | http://pastebin.com/2eXEy2nH | 20:47 |
| esing | I didnt read carefully enough | 20:47 |
| szczur | not every patch applies | 20:47 |
| esing | hmm | 20:47 |
| esing | what should I do now? | 20:48 |
| szczur | p1 | 20:48 |
| szczur | why p2 | 20:48 |
| esing | ah p1 | 20:48 |
| esing | sec | 20:48 |
| esing | succeeded | 20:48 |
| esing | yeaa | 20:48 |
| esing | (patch 2) | 20:48 |
| esing | patch 2,3,4 worked patch 5 skipped | 20:49 |
| szczur | same for me | 20:49 |
| esing | nah I mean 2,3, 5 worked 4 skipped ^^ | 20:49 |
| esing | szczur you downloaded the driver? :)) | 20:50 |
| esing | thnx | 20:50 |
| esing | ok all worked | 20:50 |
| esing | except patch 1 | 20:50 |
| szczur | yup | 20:50 |
| szczur | downloaded the source | 20:50 |
| esing | so now I compile again yee | 20:51 |
| szczur | for me it still fails | 20:51 |
| szczur | maybe i did something wrong | 20:51 |
| szczur | :/ | 20:51 |
| esing | hmm | 20:51 |
| esing | Ye for me it fails too | 20:52 |
| esing | :// | 20:52 |
| esing | maybe patch 1 is necessary | 20:52 |
| esing | patch 1 need to "--" more in first line | 20:55 |
| esing | but compiling still doesnt work | 20:55 |
| esing | but patch1 works | 20:55 |
| esing | .. | 20:55 |
| esing | is it important to execute Patch1 first before others? | 20:56 |
| esing | szczur you still here? | 21:00 |
| szczur | yup | 21:01 |
| esing | what would you suggest now | 21:01 |
| szczur | but i'm not experienced in fixing compilation errors | 21:01 |
| esing | ye | 21:01 |
| esing | szczur in ubuntu 9.10 it will work | 21:01 |
| esing | is it difficult to change the kernel back to old ubuntu? | 21:02 |
| bioterror | install 9.10 in a virtual box | 21:03 |
| bioterror | ahaha | 21:03 |
| esing | *g* | 21:03 |
| esing | bioterror what about changing only the kernel? | 21:03 |
| esing | I give you my IP and I watch you :D | 21:03 |
| esing | bioterror seriously what should I do now? | 21:04 |
| bioterror | as your lawyer I suggest you to get wasted | 21:05 |
| bioterror | :D | 21:05 |
| esing | lol | 21:08 |
| esing | bioterror iam very near to that point *smile* | 21:08 |
| esing | but be honest now | 21:08 |
| esing | should i get virtual ubuntu or compile it reverse? | 21:08 |
| bioterror | what's the kernel you need | 21:10 |
| esing | 9.10 | 21:11 |
| bioterror | no | 21:11 |
| bioterror | kernel | 21:11 |
| bioterror | linux-image | 21:11 |
| esing | the kernel 9.10 used back in the days | 21:11 |
| esing | I dont know which version it was | 21:11 |
| esing | but it certainly have to work with it | 21:12 |
| bioterror | oh well | 21:12 |
| esing | this posted somebody on the mailing list : " | 21:13 |
| esing | if you read the list here longer than 2 days you have seen that our driver | 21:13 |
| esing | at the moment will not work with ubuntu 10.10, but with 9.10. | 21:13 |
| esing | " | 21:13 |
| bioterror | http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ | 21:13 |
| bioterror | you need image and header | 21:14 |
| bioterror | dpkg -i asdasdasdasd.deb | 21:14 |
| esing | mhm which kernel version should I take tho? | 21:15 |
| bioterror | http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v2.6.31.13-karmic/ maybe this? | 21:15 |
| esing | ok good | 21:15 |
| bioterror | i386 | 21:15 |
| esing | yep | 21:15 |
| esing | dpkg -i http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v2.6.31.13-karmic/linux-headers-2.6.31-02063113-generic_2.6.31-02063113_i386.deb | 21:16 |
| esing | i do this first | 21:17 |
| bioterror | wget it first | 21:17 |
| esing | ah k | 21:17 |
| bioterror | use /tmp | 21:17 |
| bioterror | for example | 21:17 |
| esing | i read the manual a little bit | 21:22 |
| esing | but i cant figure out how to determine where wget downloads the file to | 21:23 |
| bioterror | where you said it | 21:23 |
| esing | how to write the syntax | 21:23 |
| esing | ok i found out bioterror | 21:27 |
| esing | now I download the image | 21:27 |
| bioterror | small moments of satisfaction when you figure out things ;) | 21:28 |
| szczur | sooo delightful :_ | 21:29 |
| szczur | :)* | 21:29 |
| esing | *smile* ^^ | 21:29 |
| esing | what should I do next | 21:29 |
| esing | *ready* | 21:29 |
| bioterror | you installed image and headers? | 21:29 |
| esing | ah ok | 21:30 |
| esing | sec | 21:30 |
| esing | *hurrying up* | 21:30 |
| esing | ok ready | 21:32 |
| esing | it says "done" | 21:32 |
| bioterror | reboot and choose your "brand new" :D:D:D kernel from the grub's list | 21:32 |
| esing | hehe awesome :D | 21:32 |
| esing | *that easy* ?? :D | 21:32 |
| bioterror | hoep it boots | 21:32 |
| bioterror | do you get grub list on the boot? | 21:32 |
| esing | ok I try immediatly | 21:32 |
| esing | no i dont | 21:32 |
| esing | I have only 1 os | 21:32 |
| bioterror | well, press shift | 21:33 |
| esing | okay | 21:33 |
| bioterror | is it left shift | 21:33 |
| bioterror | after bios stuff instantly shift | 21:33 |
| bioterror | hammer that shift! | 21:33 |
| esing | okay, see you in a minute then :D | 21:33 |
| esing | *lol* | 21:33 |
| * bioterror holds his breath | 21:33 | |
| esing | *smile* | 21:34 |
| szczur | bioterror faints | 21:34 |
| szczur | :P | 21:34 |
| bioterror | we get pretty lame payment for an hour with this case | 21:34 |
| szczur | heh :P | 21:35 |
| szczur | pretty low speed of solving problems | 21:35 |
| bioterror | worse code... | 21:36 |
| szczur | yesterday was easier | 21:36 |
| szczur | and not working patches | 21:37 |
| szczur | something like acx100 | 21:37 |
| szczur | for my wireless card | 21:37 |
| szczur | i got rid of it since it supported only WEP | 21:37 |
| bioterror | that's alwasy great | 21:37 |
| szczur | yeah | 21:38 |
| szczur | 5 minut longer | 21:38 |
| szczur | without entry | 21:38 |
| szczur | i'd say awesome :) | 21:38 |
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| bioterror | long boot | 21:41 |
| szczur | yeah | 21:41 |
| szczur | maybe he broke his L_Shift :P | 21:41 |
| bioterror | he's having eternal boot loop as he cant get into grub list | 21:42 |
| esing | (re) | 21:43 |
| szczur | weee, and here comes esing :) | 21:44 |
| esing | heh :D | 21:44 |
| bioterror | with 2.6.35 kernel? :D | 21:44 |
| esing | it worked booting from the older kernel yeaa | 21:44 |
| bioterror | esing, uname -a | 21:44 |
| esing | 31 | 21:44 |
| bioterror | or we dont belieave you | 21:44 |
| esing | sec | 21:44 |
| esing | core-ThinkPad-T43 2.6.31-02063113-generic #02063113 SMP Fri Jun 4 19:02:37 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux | 21:45 |
| bioterror | :D | 21:45 |
| esing | 2.6.31 ^^ | 21:45 |
| esing | :D | 21:45 |
| bioterror | o/// | 21:45 |
| esing | but I tried to compile yet | 21:45 |
| bioterror | can you now compile | 21:45 |
| esing | no ^^ | 21:45 |
| esing | *smile* | 21:45 |
| bioterror | it doesnt work? | 21:45 |
| esing | I think because of the patches I did? | 21:45 |
| bioterror | cvs it again? | 21:45 |
| esing | maybe I should delete everything | 21:45 |
| bioterror | svn | 21:45 |
| esing | yes I do again now | 21:45 |
| szczur | then download it again | 21:45 |
| esing | ok | 21:45 |
| bioterror | svn to another dir | 21:45 |
| esing | oki | 21:46 |
| bioterror | cd /tmp | 21:46 |
| bioterror | svn asdasdasd | 21:46 |
| esing | yus | 21:46 |
| bioterror | I'm waiting, I have to hit the bed | 21:47 |
| esing | hmm | 21:49 |
| esing | see here http://pastebin.com/4MKAkatZ | 21:49 |
| esing | it says Makefile: didnt find directory | 21:49 |
| esing | "no rule to create Makefile" | 21:49 |
| esing | "exiting directory ..." | 21:49 |
| esing | 2 errors | 21:50 |
| bioterror | you should not use sudo for make | 21:50 |
| bioterror | only for make install | 21:50 |
| bioterror | actually | 21:50 |
| esing | ah okay | 21:50 |
| esing | what should I use instead? | 21:51 |
| bioterror | just make | 21:51 |
| bioterror | without sudo | 21:51 |
| esing | okay i try again | 21:51 |
| esing | doesnt work | 21:51 |
| esing | :((( | 21:51 |
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| bioterror | time to put hands down and say "that software sucks" | 21:52 |
| esing | lol | 21:52 |
| esing | bioterror | 21:58 |
| esing | maybe because i still have the OS 10.10 | 21:58 |
| esing | is it possible to install an older distru apart from 10.10? | 21:59 |
| esing | or should I try virtual 9.10 /8.10 | 21:59 |
| bioterror | for what you really need that driver | 22:01 |
| bioterror | stuff | 22:01 |
| bioterror | could you tell me again | 22:01 |
| esing | it is to test my dect phone on encryption | 22:01 |
| esing | I bought a card plus antenna for this, I dont want to waste that hardware ^^ | 22:02 |
| esing | it basically caputeres 1.5 mhz data to pcap and then I have to convert and merge it... and then i can see wheather my calls are encrypted or not | 22:03 |
| bioterror | okay | 22:03 |
| esing | bioterror I just downloaded this http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads | 22:03 |
| esing | 9.10 | 22:03 |
| esing | is this correct for a virtual 9.10 ubuntu? | 22:04 |
| bioterror | I have no idea | 22:04 |
| bioterror | phillw, | 22:04 |
| esing | hehe :) | 22:04 |
| * bioterror summons phillw | 22:05 | |
| esing | bioterror np | 22:06 |
| esing | I will try tomorrow then | 22:06 |
| esing | I go asleep earlier today too | 22:06 |
| bioterror | phillw runs 9.10 | 22:06 |
| esing | ah I see | 22:06 |
| phillw | esing: there is a work around for some of the kernel problems with 3G devices | 22:06 |
| bioterror | :D | 22:06 |
| bioterror | I just remembered | 22:06 |
| esing | :D | 22:06 |
| bioterror | phillw, could you would p-p-p-please | 22:06 |
| esing | phillw i dont use 3g devices | 22:06 |
| bioterror | :D | 22:07 |
| esing | phillw i want to use dedected | 22:07 |
| esing | which doesnt work on 10.10 ^^ | 22:07 |
| esing | Maybe you could try if it works on your 9.10 os | 22:07 |
| phillw | esing: that should be reported as a bug | 22:08 |
| esing | here you go phillw svn co https://dedected.org/svn/trunk dedected | 22:08 |
| esing | phillw it is reported yet | 22:08 |
| esing | that made a patch which doesnt work tho | 22:08 |
| esing | *they | 22:08 |
| esing | cd /dedected/com-on-air_cs-linux | 22:09 |
| esing | and then sudo make && sudo make -C tools | 22:09 |
| esing | :))) | 22:09 |
| bioterror | nope | 22:09 |
| esing | *** make && make -C tools | 22:09 |
| bioterror | just make | 22:09 |
| esing | :D | 22:09 |
| phillw | esing: update the bug, ibugs can only be fixed if the devs know about them :) | 22:09 |
| esing | :P | 22:09 |
| esing | *smile* | 22:09 |
| bioterror | phillw, dont you start dodging this problem! | 22:09 |
| esing | *big smile* | 22:09 |
| esing | :D | 22:09 |
| bioterror | me n my mate sz been working with this whole evening | 22:10 |
| bioterror | !! | 22:10 |
| esing | hehe | 22:10 |
| phillw | bioterror: I'm just admin - you h | 22:10 |
| bioterror | haha | 22:10 |
| bioterror | but you have 9.10 | 22:10 |
| phillw | guys are front line support :) | 22:10 |
| esing | my name is phil too in real life | 22:11 |
| esing | cmon help me ^^ | 22:11 |
| bioterror | :D | 22:11 |
| esing | *g* | 22:11 |
| bioterror | usually I am grumpy, but now I am almost laughing | 22:11 |
| phillw | bioterror: I run 9.10 ubuntu, no kernel updates for my 3G device, I'm not too sure how I can help? | 22:11 |
| bioterror | phillw, svn the source code, and try to run make | 22:12 |
| bioterror | you're only one with ancient os ;) | 22:12 |
| esing | hah :-] | 22:12 |
| bioterror | 9.10 is so old that it have been enbalmed and it almost walks | 22:13 |
| esing | hehe | 22:13 |
| esing | bioterror i even soldered the transceiver of the pcmcia III card externly so it fits into the II slot | 22:14 |
| esing | grml internet cuts sec | 22:14 |
| bioterror | you're working with embedded systems or something? | 22:14 |
| phillw | esing: I'm sending you an invite | 22:15 |
| esing | nah I dont do openBSC, this pcmcia III card (com on air) does only receive the 1.5 mhz dect signals | 22:15 |
| bioterror | I'm off to ed | 22:16 |
| bioterror | bed | 22:16 |
| bioterror | wife went already and was angry :D | 22:16 |
| bioterror | good night | 22:16 |
| esing | hehe | 22:16 |
| esing | good night to you | 22:16 |
| esing | :) | 22:16 |
| bioterror | maybe I'll get more than 4 hours of sleep | 22:16 |
| esing | hah :D | 22:16 |
| esing | as you said yesterday | 22:16 |
| esing | *g* | 22:16 |
| esing | phillw does it work? | 22:17 |
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