[00:00] sun-javadb-client is the correct original java plugin? [00:00] cool thanks guys [00:00] *searching the original package to avoid incompatibility [00:01] esing, you mean the web browser plugin? [00:01] yep [00:01] sun-java6-plugin [00:01] grml i installed google earth but cant find it anywhere ^^ [00:03] not working [00:03] sun-java6-plugin [00:03] says it is not availabke [00:04] should work [00:04] at least for me [00:04] huh? [00:05] sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin [00:05] then it says it is not available [00:05] did you enables the partners repository? [00:05] run synaptic [00:06] no [00:06] ok [00:06] Settings -> Repositories [00:06] on "Other sources" tab [00:06] or something like that [00:06] second tab :) [00:07] tick the partners repository and close the window [00:07] refresh the list of packages [00:07] and search for sun java plugin [00:07] these are the java packages i have installed [00:07] http://szczur.ath.cx/java.png [00:09] not working [00:09] :D [00:10] commonjava is listed but java6 plugin not [00:11] hmm, should be [00:11] refreshed the package list? [00:11] yes [00:11] mb I should remove icedtea6 first? [00:12] and your repositories looks something like http://szczur.ath.cx/repo.png [00:12] ? [00:12] i mean the first entry [00:13] yes first two entries exisdt [00:13] others on the bottom dont [00:13] exists and are ticked? [00:13] :) [00:13] sure [00:13] :) [00:14] hmm, then i don't really know [00:14] hehe :D [00:14] nvm [00:14] sun java plugin is in partners repo [00:14] maybe i find out tomorrow [00:14] icedtea6 i can remove tho? [00:14] * szczur is puzzled [00:14] don't know what is it so i'm not the right person to ask :P [00:15] wait for a moment [00:15] ahh, free java plugin [00:15] you can remove it if you want [00:16] can i install java6 plugin directly from java.com? [00:16] or will it be too dificult to compile etc? [00:17] (never done before) [00:17] i have found it now [00:17] :D [00:18] i wouldn't do it. There may be more problems with removing it and etc. :P [00:18] y ^^ [00:18] it worked now [00:18] I looked under J not S [00:18] ^^ [00:18] :P [00:19] so you have sun java now [00:19] i should say Oracle [00:20] :) [00:20] yea :D [00:20] ^^ [00:20] wi [00:20] with ur help [00:20] glad you worked it out :) [00:20] thanks :) [00:21] no problem [00:21] i'm bioterror's mentee. need to collect points :) [00:21] ^^ [00:21] I need [00:21] * [00:22] hehe [00:23] i can agree you captured 100% of possible points ;D [00:24] ^^ [00:24] synaptic crashed [00:24] *G* [00:24] taskmanager doesnt show synaptic either [00:24] *strange* [00:37] *lol* [00:37] now my system seem damaged [00:38] what synaptic says? [00:40] it says something about dpkg process [00:40] E: dpkg process is stopped [00:40] "you have to to do manually sudo dpkg --configure -a [00:40] then run it :) [00:40] k ^^ [00:40] it should work [00:41] now it says [00:41] The independences of 1 package of the system is defect [00:41] chose filter "fecet packages " to show them [00:42] did you run "sudo dpkg --configure -a" [00:42] it shows it after running it, right? [00:42] yes [00:42] i run first sudo dpk .. [00:42] 'k [00:42] then I restarted synpactic [00:43] then it says 1 package is damaged [00:43] it is java [00:43] because java didnt install correctly [00:43] what should I do now? [00:43] try to reinstall it [00:43] rightclick [00:43] select reinstall [00:44] do I need sun-java6.jre [00:44] or only sun-java6-bin + plugin? [00:44] jre too [00:44] i think [00:46] now the same screen occures as before. it stops and when I click on details I see a shell with configure sun-java6.bin [00:47] close the synaptic [00:47] not possible [00:48] what is in the shell? [00:48] can you do the screenshot [00:48] with details opened? [00:48] i try to make a screenshot [00:48] but how do i do this? [00:48] i cant find "print" on my laptop [00:48] this would be helpful :) [00:48] hmm [00:48] i found print [00:48] i cant paste the picture in gimp [00:48] hmm [00:49] check your home folder [00:49] if there's file that have scrot in it's name [00:49] ah full of pictures there *G* ^^ [00:49] ack :/ [00:51] run terminal [00:51] sec [00:51] run this command [00:51] scrot -d 2 synaptic.png [00:51] and go back to synaptic [00:51] :) [00:52] http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/3875/201101280148341400x1050.png [00:52] *G* [00:52] ohh [00:52] two laptops here [00:52] :) [00:52] now iam with xchat online [00:52] ahh :P [00:52] click on the details "window" [00:52] pres tab [00:53] press enter [00:53] lol [00:53] orr, press tab until the OK "button" [00:53] is highlighted [00:53] so funny [00:53] worked? [00:53] i would have had been stuck along time at that point [00:53] sure it worked :D [00:53] thanks [00:53] heh [00:54] and i would recommend installing [00:54] one package [00:54] for the future [00:54] heh [00:54] :)) [00:54] one moment [00:54] libgnome2-perl [00:54] this will create wonderful normal GTK windows [00:55] not these text ones [00:55] :> [00:55] hehe [00:55] long night i'd say :) [00:55] damn ye [00:55] you live in europe too? [00:55] yup :) [00:55] poland? [00:56] ^^ [00:56] how did you know [00:56] ahh, my ISP [00:56] because you told me earlier [00:56] :) [00:56] and your screenshot [00:56] true [00:56] iam from germany [00:56] very late [00:56] its 1:56 now [00:56] i know this :) [00:56] not good [00:56] ^^ [00:56] from your screenshot [00:57] hehe [00:57] with "long night", i wanted to say that i bet that there will be something more to do :) [00:57] lol [00:57] it always ends like this :) [00:57] heheheh [00:58] i screwed up my friends\ ubuntu installation [00:58] lol what happened [00:58] because i wanted to make TV-OUT in his laptop work properly [00:58] grml ^ [00:58] and i mage couple of xorg.confs [00:58] tv and linux is more difficult than in windows [00:58] and a script to switch between them [00:59] but when it still ended up on being b/w [00:59] i gave up [00:59] and wanted to remove the files [00:59] lol [00:59] i wasn't thinking at that moment [01:00] you had no backup? [01:00] ^ [01:00] and i issued the sudo rm -rfv /etc/X11/* command [01:00] hehe [01:00] so it removed all the files, showing all the destruction [01:00] wow [01:01] i ended up doing reinstallation to 5 AM [01:01] since it was 2 AM while i did the most stupid thing in my life :) [01:01] i bet you learned much of this ^ [01:01] yeah :) [01:01] ^^ [01:02] i wonder [01:02] where i can find google earth [01:02] think twice when you're going to edit something in /etc :P [01:02] on google :P [01:02] ye ^^ [01:02] i alread installed the package [01:03] i have an idea, run synaptic, find the package [01:03] good idea :D [01:03] rightclick it > select the properties [01:04] select the installed files tab [01:04] and check what files are in /usr/bin or /usr/local/bin [01:04] then when you got the name [01:04] you can run the program from terminal [01:05] i tried this alread [01:05] but it doesnt work ^^ [01:05] for example the file is called /usr/bin/googlespysystem [01:05] so run googlespysystem [01:05] ohhh [01:05] lol [01:05] from where you got the package? [01:06] apt get [01:06] nah [01:06] from synaptci [01:06] you mean googleearth-package [01:06] this one? [01:06] yep [01:06] 5 sec [01:06] i'm doing it right now :) [01:06] *G*^^ [01:07] there's program called make-googleearth-package [01:07] mhm [01:08] ah it is only a tool [01:08] now it is downloading some file from google [01:08] to make a debia package of google earth [01:08] *debian [01:08] i think it is the program [01:08] yup [01:08] mhm [01:08] google earth doesn't weight only 80 kB [01:08] ^^ [01:08] not really a debian package i think [01:09] don't know [01:09] will se [01:09] e [01:09] 2 minutes left [01:10] 1Mbit is killing me :) [01:11] y ^^ [01:11] 30 sec left [01:12] will se if it formats hdd, make my monitor explode [01:12] or simply run google earth [01:12] ^^ [01:15] yeah, it build the package [01:15] even found the website [01:15] about it [01:15] http://ubuntuguide.net/how-to-install-google-earth-in-ubuntu-10-10-maverick [01:16] ah ok [01:16] so I do it without synapctics [01:16] you already installed the needed package [01:16] -the [01:16] just run make-googleearth-package --force [01:17] ahh, and if you're running 32 bit system [01:17] don't run first command [01:17] "sudo apt-get install ia32-libs lib32nss-mdns" << this one [01:18] hmm, from the comments it feels like it failed to work :/ [01:22] nah [01:22] it worked perfectly :D [01:22] i just had to wait [01:22] until synapctic finished [01:22] installing openoffice :D [01:23] and iam a little slower now due iam so tired as hell ^^ [01:24] it is still working .. [01:24] with a lot warning [01:25] the make-googleearth-package command [01:25] ? [01:25] same for me [01:25] yus [01:25] wow it takes much time ^ [01:25] still not finished [01:27] wait some more [01:27] if it willl not stop [01:27] press Ctrl+C [01:27] i'm trying something else [01:27] what ubuntu version you're running right now? [01:27] now it says success [01:27] iam running lubuntu 10.10 [01:27] 10.10? [01:28] yes [01:28] ohh [01:28] it finished? [01:28] yep [01:29] hmm [01:29] sec [01:29] or you pressed the Ctrl+C? [01:29] yes i run lubuntu 10.10 [01:29] no i didnt press ctrl c [01:29] it finished well [01:29] but the last sudo dpkg -i googleearth_5.2.1.1588+0.5.7-1_amd64.deb [01:29] doesnt work [01:30] amd64? [01:30] no [01:30] you're running 64 bit system? [01:30] celeron 1,8 [01:30] 32 bit [01:30] then why it creatied the 64bit package [01:30] :/ [01:30] i just followed the instruction on your link [01:31] did you run the sudo apt-get install ia32-libs lib32nss-mdns command? [01:31] ye sure [01:31] don't run first command [01:31] "sudo apt-get install ia32-libs lib32nss-mdns" << this one [01:31] i did run it [01:31] lol [01:31] then uninstall these packages [01:31] why [01:31] it's for 64 bit systems [01:31] grml [01:31] ^ [01:32] how can I uninstall it? [01:32] sudo apt-get purge ia32-libs lib32nss-mdns [01:32] he wrote it on the top of thej page [01:32] that he's running 64 bit system [01:32] that's why he had to install it [01:32] lol [01:32] iam dumb [01:32] iam too tired [01:32] ok it finished deleting [01:32] remove these packages [01:32] now? [01:33] and run make-googleearth once again [01:33] or wait [01:33] i'm trying something [01:34] hmm, you know what? [01:34] ye? [01:34] download and install this package [01:34] http://packages.medibuntu.org/pool/non-free/g/googleearth/googleearth_5.1.3533.1731-0medibuntu1_i386.deb [01:35] ok [01:35] faster than waiting to end the make-whatever command [01:35] hi. i just installed google earth but when i try to start it, nothing happens. any idea whats wrong? [01:36] you installed google earth with apt get [01:37] I mean googleearth-package [01:37] from where you get these ideas :P [01:38] esing asked the same thing 30 min earlier :) [01:38] lol [01:38] ok, maybe not 30 min [01:38] hblount is trolling me :D [01:38] but the same thing :) [01:38] he asks the same things as i do [01:38] :D [01:38] ^^ [01:38] *G* [01:38] I bet he is bioterror [01:38] :) [01:38] hahahahah [01:39] *lol* [01:39] he's testing me [01:39] :) [01:39] yes ! ^^ [01:39] bioterror, CONFESS!!! [01:39] *lol* [01:41] hblount, you're running 32 or 64 bit system? [01:41] and esing2, does the package work? [01:41] have you installed it? [01:42] hm I think i use the old package i installed yet [01:42] the one created by make-thing? [01:43] it is not installed right now i think [01:43] hmm [01:43] if it would be you would have google earth in Internet submenu [01:43] the one installed with synapatic [01:43] the googleearth-package is only the script to download the program [01:44] and make the normal package [01:44] now I used this again sudo make-googleearth-package --force [01:44] you created one [01:44] yes [01:44] ...for 64bit system [01:44] with synaptic ealier [01:44] aaah, you created another one [01:44] yep after i installed the google earth package with synaptic icreate rnother one [01:44] yep [01:44] :) [01:44] so my work is done [01:44] yus [01:44] thx [01:44] i go sleeping too soon [01:44] i have to tell bioterror [01:44] hblount, are you here? [01:45] that you are very good in linux [01:45] it went from menu through java ending on google earth [01:45] i knew it it won't be normal night [01:45] lol [01:45] esing2, i think he knows it :) [01:46] ye me too ^^ [01:51] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pR1Mmxr2Cb4&feature=share [01:52] damn notihng works [01:52] should I deinstall al? [01:53] damn iam starving in tiredness :D [01:53] so late in germany === szczur_ is now known as szczur [01:56] hi. sorry. it installed properly i think.it is in menu [01:56] 32bit [01:56] mhm [01:57] i tried this too [01:57] and it is in menu aswell [01:57] but it doesnt run [01:57] yours running? [01:57] hblount [01:57] nothing happens at all when u click it right? [01:57] ye [01:57] nothing happens [01:57] yeah same here [01:57] strange [01:58] with the version from the medibuntu? [01:58] or make-googleearth [01:58] ? [01:58] no from synaptics [01:58] i think it is medibuntu [01:58] i downloaded from google earth website and it let me choose "install" [01:58] i mean, the package that i gave link to it [01:59] how can I download that package [01:59] pls send the link again [01:59] or the one that you build with the instructions from the webpage [01:59] ok [01:59] http://packages.medibuntu.org/pool/non-free/g/googleearth/googleearth_5.1.3533.1731-0medibuntu1_i386.deb [01:59] this package works for me [01:59] please remove all other google eath packages before [02:00] if i put that link [02:01] in my browser i get redirected to ubuntuusers.de [02:01] huh? [02:01] hmm [02:01] ah [02:01] now it works [02:01] works for me [02:01] run terminal [02:01] chromeus shows it in the bottom [02:01] heh :) [02:02] it is downloaded now [02:02] how should i run it? [02:02] double clickß [02:03] doubleclick should install it [02:03] or run terminal [02:03] go to the folder where you downloaded it [02:03] and run [02:03] sudo dpkg -i googleearth_5.1.3533.1731-0medibuntu1_i386.deb [02:03] damn, i forgot about my kettle [02:03] only 16 mb file [02:04] uhm hurry ^^ [02:04] i would make my kitchen burn :) [02:04] kettles are dangerous [02:04] ^^ [02:04] and everything for me ^^ [02:04] phew :) [02:04] :) [02:04] now just drink some tea :) [02:05] yes, it is only 16 MB, and it works fo rme [02:05] what should i do now [02:05] it finished [02:05] at least i was able to track down osama bin laden [02:05] ^^ [02:05] and my car on the outside [02:05] it works [02:05] awesome :D [02:05] my sisters car [02:05] THX [02:05] i don't have one [02:05] no problem [02:06] uhm [02:06] computer crashed [02:06] again ^^ [02:07] ômg [02:07] 3:06 [02:07] i gotta go offline [02:07] :) [02:07] maan :P [02:07] szczur pls go sleeping too ^^ [02:07] check your ram [02:07] maybe it is the problem [02:07] ye mb [02:07] not now [02:07] got 1,5 gb [02:07] house md is waiting in the dvd drive [02:08] i was going to watch at least one episode :P [02:08] and i made some tea [02:08] :) [02:08] hblount, does it work for you too? [02:09] i was gonna wait and see if it worked for esing [02:09] ahh, mkay [02:09] safer way :) [02:09] how do i uninstall all google earth packages? [02:09] i uninstalled it with synaptcics [02:10] Just unmarked google earth packages [02:10] and you said this other one works for you? [02:12] yes [02:12] Just download it from the link [02:12] double click it in the folder downloads [02:12] and install it [02:12] finished [02:12] then go to menu / internet / googleearth [02:12] szczur can I delete the .deb file now? [02:13] or do I need it ? [02:13] I will go offline now [02:13] too late [02:13] you can remove it [02:13] ok [02:13] thx [02:13] Have nice night [02:13] cu [02:13] no problem [02:13] see you tomorrow [02:23] ok i try it too. thanks tea sipper [02:24] heh :) [02:24] no problem [03:45] Hello, there [03:45] I got a little problem [03:46] I installed lucid to a PIII and it goes wonderfully, but I updated yesterday and it is not recognizing my 1680x1050@60 resolution [03:46] What should I do? [04:10] Juanantonio, you have to make xorg.conf and put resolution there [04:10] Yes, I am being helped in ubuntu-es, thanks [04:10] I will see if I manage [04:10] By the way, lubuntu is wonderful [04:13] you cheated us with a loco channel :( ;) [04:14] loco channel [04:14] no, no, hehehe [04:14] local community [04:14] Oh, yes, that's it [09:27] How do I choose the correct Partitioning option when following ? [09:47] hey, i guess this question would've worked in #ubuntu too.. but anyway. [09:47] just wondering if it's possible to install lubuntu on a fat32 file system? [09:48] i guess permissions would be a problem. [09:48] but for the purpose i intend, it'd be convenient. [09:48] (lubuntu on a usb memory so i can carry it with me.) [09:50] quem: USB can also be reformatted to NTFS etc.... [09:53] would i be ableto install lubuntu on ntfs? [09:54] good morning [09:55] i wonder how I can see a files format in lubuntu [09:56] quem: You can also format to Ext2,3,4 [09:57] I think the best of those three would be 2 or 4 in 2 mode.....journaling turned of.....journaling on USB causes unwanted writes [09:57] (more exactly the file ending) [09:59] MrChrisDruif you present? [10:01] Yes half :) [10:01] MrChrisDruif: currently i have two partitions on it, 6gb ext3 with ubuntu 10.04 and 2gb fat32, so i can use it on windows systems too if i want to transfer something to it. [10:01] Little bit wasted from yesterday [10:01] lol ** [10:01] Would work I think :) [10:01] can't linux just ignore all about ownership and permissions somehow... :) === quem_ is now known as quem [10:02] guess carrying two memories with me is an option too.. they're not clumsy after all. [10:03] love those really really small ones by verbatim. [10:03] Little pendrives aren't too big to carry around [10:03] http://www.beststuff.com/images/articles/031009j.jpg [10:03] yeah, i keep that 8gb in my wallet. heh. i guess it should be half the price by now. [10:04] quem: Why have you got Ubuntu on ext3? [10:04] On the pendrive? [10:04] installed it long ago [10:04] well, not that long. [10:05] journalling unneccessary or should i rather use ext4? [10:06] Well....afaik is ext3 just ext2 with journaling... [10:06] On a normal HDD that isn't a problem, but on flash memory...meh... [10:06] yeah [10:06] ahhhh... yeah. [10:06] more writes. [10:06] that's a very good point. [10:06] Yup... [10:06] that's why i disabled swap on it. [10:06] thanks for pointing it out [10:07] But...what I've read somewhere that you can use ext4 speed without journaling... [10:07] ah [10:07] * quem checks the tune2fs man page [10:08] reading about the ext4 features, i get reminded of how i've always missed creation timestamps... [10:10] lazy me googled, http://fenidik.blogspot.com/2010/03/ext4-disable-journal.html [10:11] Good going O:-) [10:11] :) [10:12] How can I to choose the right partitioning method from ? [10:12] preparing for a trip to cameroon, wife thinks i'm nuts about bringing all the electronic junk i'm packing [10:13] Indeed you are :) (sorry if I offended you :)) [10:14] I was thinking of saving about 1/3 of the 80 GB hard disk for the remnants of WinXP in case I screw up the linux partition lol [10:14] hehe [10:15] charliemac: For a beginning ubuntero it's indeed a pretty good idea to keep the "known" Windows XP on the drive :) [10:16] the ubuntu installer uses parted right? and can resize partitions? [10:16] Yes, I thought so! Would that entail resizing the c:/ partition? [10:16] But when you boot from the USB or CD and go into live-mode you can use gparted to first partition your drive if you want.....or use the installer's partition section [10:17] I'm not sure I can use the USB or CD methods because my computer's a little funny that way... [10:17] And yes, that would mean you resize "C:/" ;) (or sda1 in Ubuntu) [10:17] Gparted should recognize the Windows partition etc... [10:18] you should be able to configure that in bios charliemac [10:18] boot order and options [10:20] If your question is if your computer can boot from CD or USB....that kind of thing you check/alter in the bios or the bootmanager or whatever it's called...the latter is for single boot from a different media [10:20] USB doesn't even show up in my boot menu, and I tried booting from the CD thru BIOS, but it couldn't make it happen! Kinda sad, not sure why. Currently in progress w/ Grub [10:21] *GRUB [10:21] We understood what you mend with Grub :) [10:22] But how do you mean that? Progressing with Grub? [10:24] Oh lol, I'm in the middle of installation already, but when it asked me about partitioning disks, I froze. In over my head? [10:24] Nah...your not :) [10:28] I was planning a windows partition, a fat-32 partition for shared files, a 3-5 GB swap/paging partion, and the rest I don't know lol [10:29] Would that require manual partitioning, LVM, or guided partitioning? === quem_ is now known as quem [10:35] That would be manual I think...guided only asks for swap & separate /home [10:37] MrChrisDruif xeon-enouf where can I start the programm I deleted the short link from? [10:38] What do you mean? [10:44] esing: ^ [10:51] short question [10:51] where can I see all programs I installed yet in a list? [10:51] (only in synaptic when i installed it through synaptic?) [10:52] dpkg -l [10:52] MrChrisDruif I mean when I deleted the symlink, but I found out , i can find it in /usr/bin mostly or with which [10:52] thx bioterror [10:52] esing, always use apt-get or dpkg for installing ;) [10:52] You can also save that list with piping right bioterror? [10:53] dpkg -l > installed.txt [10:53] awesome thx [10:53] bioterror: Synaptic is a GUI for apt-get right? ;) [10:53] yep [10:53] btw bioterror your friend xzdecze helped me much yester day ^ [10:53] thx alot [10:53] esing, I noticed from log, he's a great guy [10:53] no wonder he's my padawan ;) [10:53] hehe [10:54] *g* [10:54] :D [10:54] ( is it possible to search within a shell?) [10:54] (because dpkg -l shows alot programs) ^^ [10:54] esing, what you want to search [10:55] dpkg -l shows installed programs [10:55] I'd like to search within the list of dpkg -l [10:55] in firefox I can click ctrl +f and search a text [10:55] apt-cache search pidgin searches the repos for anything pidgin [10:55] I'd like to search the text within the shell too [10:56] Well...you could save it to a text file and search that atleast....but I think that it should also be possible to search with dpkg [10:56] esing, dpkg -l |grep shell [10:57] bioterror is more technically inclined O:-) [10:57] ^^ [10:57] thnx [10:57] esing, dpkg -L bash |less [10:59] I've kept some apt-get/dpkg teaching in here before too [11:00] Yeah, the more you use it, the easier it becomes :) [11:00] dpkg -l |grep shell is an awesome search command [11:00] i will note it down [11:01] esing, apt-cache search game |grep mmorpg [11:01] actually [11:01] you dont need grep for apt-cache [11:02] you can do it 'apt-cache search project gantt' [11:03] How can I avoid using guided partitioning (in GRUB) when there is 3.8 GB empty space at the beginning of the disk? [11:05] charliemac, ?! [11:06] I could just leave it there as an empty partition (FAT-32, used to contain recovery data) [11:06] you can boot livecd, use gparted for deleting it and move it to another partition with resize [11:07] I think [11:07] :D [11:07] afk [11:09] I would if i could, trust me! ;) (Lol, my laptop refuses to boot from the CD) [11:11] gotta go swimming x) catch you later up :) [11:11] thx again === quem_ is now known as quem [11:14] LVM? [11:37] Logical Volume Manager [11:37] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logical_Volume_Manager_(Linux) [11:39] But I don't know how that works [11:40] Can my swap partition be at the beginning at the disk? I have 3.8GB of unused space there... [11:40] can [11:43] Is there a downside? [11:43] Not that I know of....beginning is center of the disk if I'm not mistaking :) [11:44] So would be better I would guess [11:44] yes [11:44] as the reader head moves less, it's faster [11:45] Cool, good coincidence [11:47] How do I make the choice between primary and logical? [11:48] Logical isn't a "real" partition....you can put real/functional partitions on it... [11:50] Seeing a Linux partition can easily take up 3 partitions (/,swap,/home) you can decide to put them all on a logical partition [11:51] may i disturb you again, MrChrisDruif ? ;) any software i must not forget to bring with me? [11:51] * quem has already installed important things such as snes and nes emulators [11:51] How do you mean? Which software, bringing it were? [11:52] Okay. How much space will I need for the various linux partitions? [11:56] to cameroon. [11:57] charliemac: If you want you can only take / (root partition), swap and /home are optional.. [12:00] It looks like (, ) some of those optional partitions might be helpful, as well as bonus fat-32 space. [12:04] The swap needs to be AS big or bigger than the systems RAM for Hibernation and /home is handy for your files...so they won't be deleted when you reïnstall [12:05] Ok. What does "mount point" indicate? [12:07] How do I determine which mount point I would select? [12:07] Well....:P [12:08] Root partition (which is necessary :P) is / [12:08] Home partition is /home [12:08] And linux swap is swap [12:09] lol ok because it's asked between " dos, windows, enter manually," and "don't mount" and I don't really know how to choose. [12:10] What? [12:11] charliemac, what filesystem did you choose for the partition [12:11] sounds like fat or ntfs [12:12] Went to set up a new partition, and after selecting file system, Fat-32, because it can be accessed from both WinXP & Ubuntu, and next I had to choose the mount-point and other mount options [12:13] you can't intsall ubuntu on fat or ntfs filesystem. you can acess these partitions but installation is not possible [12:14] for / you need to choose ext or reiserfs [12:14] don't know if /home needs to be the same [12:14] probably yes [12:14] Ok, but I'll still set up the / partition last. Will 30GB suffice? Overkill? (I want to include the / as a primary and /home etc. as logical) [12:15] 30GB will be enough [12:15] even little too much [12:16] Too much for root and home combined with whatever other data I may wish to backup? [12:17] if you create /home as separate partition you don't have to format it if you're going to reinstall the system [12:18] so even the programs configuration stays [12:18] and /home is the place when you normally keep data [12:18] so on / there's only installed programs [12:18] i have 15 GB for it [12:18] and it is enough for me [12:20] I'm cosidering the advice of the "guru" who started the thread, claiming that /data is better than /home - only for multi-linux computers? [12:20] I've got 10GB for / [12:24] charliemac, he have /data partition to backup important data [12:25] /data partition? [12:25] "you have a separate /home for some data and a separate /data partition to backup important data." [12:25] MrChrisDruif, i talking about http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=282018 [12:25] What about a seperate partition for windows paging? [12:31] Nevermind windows paging, its not like there was one before lol [12:32] hello! i have a netbook and ubuntu gnome is too heavy... what differences lubuntu from ubuntu? [12:32] That it uses LXDE instead of Gnome :) [12:33] lol but what's the relation between lxde and openbox? [12:34] Otherwise you should be able to do the same jobs on both systems...might be a little less flashy [12:35] Well LXDE uses OpenBox as Window Manager if I'm not mistaking... [12:35] and the performance get better with lxde? [12:37] That I don't know....but LXDE is like the abbr. stands for Lightweight X Desktop Environment....it's a complete set of tools for desktop :) [12:37] Need to reboot....new kernel update :P [12:38] and is it possible to set thunar or nautilus elementary as the default files manager? [12:46] MrChrisDruif, [12:46] and is it possible to set thunar or nautilus elementary as the default files manager? [12:46] Yes? [12:47] Sure it is....but PCmanFM is also very light and works well with LXDE [12:49] MrChrisDruif, yes but what about installing dropbox? :S [12:50] Is Gnome or KDE more user-friendly than LXDE for someone coming off windows? [12:51] I've heard there are some scripts that enable Dropbox functioning in PCmanFM....but if you install Nautilus(-Elementary) it works no prob... [12:51] charliemac: Linux is different, no matter if you take Gnome or KDE or LXDE [12:52] What DE's work best with SLiM? (I've had SLiM recommended to me in the past). [12:53] ok i'm gonna install be right back ;) [12:54] charliemac: LXDE comes with with it's own login manager....which works better with it then SLiM (just my own experiences)...however both Gnome and KDE should work with no problems [12:55] But LXDE's login manager (can't remember it's name) is also very light :) [12:56] How does PCmanFM weigh in? [12:56] Almost the same as thunar I think, if nog lighter [13:00] Is it LXDE just as easy as Gnome or KDE? [13:00] I think so, the basics are the same :) [13:03] What are the pros and cons to adding /boot and /tmp logical partitions? Are they completely unnecessary? What will happen without them? [13:05] The linux partitioning guide at would appear to indicate them as integral... [13:06] separate /boot partition would be nice if you have more linuxes than one. for /tmp partition don't know why it should be separate. Without them they will be created inside / partition [13:06] as separate folders [13:06] i don't have them as separate partitions [13:07] charliemac: They will be added to the root nonetheless....however, some people would prefer separate /boot and /tmp with different filesystems [13:07] For Beginner and even intermediate users they aren't necessary to create :) [13:08] lol ok, but i like to leave myself with room to grow into new territory ;) [13:09] You can always reconfigure the partition table :) [13:12] You don't need to add everything you MIGHT like in the future :) [13:19] MrChrisDruif: Without LVM? Ok, I'll have to keep that in mind.. SO the only thing I really have to figure out right now is the Windows partition, paging/swap, and the root? [13:20] hi [13:20] Is it okay updating the Kernel of Lubuntu 10.10 to 2.6.35 ? [13:20] Yeah, you can change size by just booting a liveCD [13:20] IFF the CD will work lol [13:21] I'm not running Lubuntu, but my Ubuntu runs fine on the new kernel [13:21] you have kernel version 2.6.35 ß [13:21] MrChrisDruif: which DM and DE are you running on Ubuntu? [13:21] Default...Gnome and GDM [13:22] I need to burn the mini-ISO [13:22] I want a AMD64 systemm [13:22] -m [13:23] esing: Updated today, running it now :) [13:24] nice [13:24] I will get it too then [13:25] this -> sudo apt-get install linux-source-2.6.35 ye [13:25] Do all of the DM's and DE's have broadly the same capabilities? [13:26] esing: Isn't it an update for Lubuntu? [13:27] hmm [13:27] It is for ubuntu 10.10 [13:27] but i have lubuntu [13:27] is that a problem? [13:27] I can still aboard the installation [13:27] 80% [13:28] hmm it is still showing the same kernel version [13:28] charliemac: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_X_Window_System_desktop_environments [13:29] sudo apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.35 [13:29] can I do this too with my lubuntu 10.10 ? [13:29] y/n ? :D [13:30] esing, ubuntu and lubuntu uses the same kernel [13:30] it's just the candy that's different on the top [13:30] and parts of system like cli etc. only difference is the desktop environment and default installed programs [13:30] hi bioterror [13:30] another one likes marshmallow and another salmiyuck ;) [13:30] So it should prolly work [13:31] :D [13:31] hey szczur [13:36] Thanks! [13:37] MrChrisDruif: ^^ [13:37] Your welcome :) [13:37] What are the advantages of Ext3 with journaling over Ext2? [13:39] Just that: it's Ext2 with journaling :) [13:46] What's journaling all about? Does it log my every move? [13:46] ... because that sounds bulky. [13:46] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Journaling_file_system [13:47] bioterror: thanks! [13:47] next time you can google by yourself! ;D [13:48] it's not really that hard, you go to www.google.com and you put some words you want to search like "journaling file system" [13:48] lol, I was just going to, honest! :) [13:49] what is the mimeinfo.cache ? [13:49] Which file sys do you implement, personally? [13:50] Because I'm wondering if the journaling is worth the extra resources, or if it slows things down a lot. [13:55] How can I change a name in Lubuntu of a .desktop file ? [13:55] right click "name changing" doesnt work [13:56] edit with nano or leafpad or even with vim vi joe what ever you want to use [13:56] I did this too [13:56] didnt work [13:56] it does work [13:57] ah k [13:57] now it works [13:57] :) [13:57] you are a very expert in linux [13:57] never used windows before? ^ [13:57] I've beta tested Windows ME and Windows XP [13:58] I have some knowledge [13:58] i see [13:58] I can build AD for a small company [13:59] nice [14:05] i didnt find out what the app "screenlock " does yet [14:06] Doesn't it "lock your screen" [14:10] I.e. turn your screen black and makes your enter your password before you can continue working? :) [14:13] I bet most linux users are more intellgent than microsoft users lol ;D [14:14] see. just look @ how I spelled "intelligent!" [14:14] Still, I'm wondering if the journaling is worth the extra resources, or if it slows things down a lot. [14:18] Well, that overhead isn't really much... [14:19] cool [14:19] It just writes WHAT it's going to do before DOING said operation :) [14:19] does lubuntu use networkmanager? if not, what does it use? [14:19] with xchat i can go to more than 1 IRC servers [14:19] awesome :) [14:20] MrChrisDruif no it doesnt, that is why I wondered about its function [14:20] MrChrisDruif it centers all windows but no more is happening [14:20] What do you mean esing? [14:21] with weechat my IRCing goes to eleven [14:21] well the symlink "lock your screen" doesnt lock my screen [14:21] wow are you on 11 server bioterror? ^^ [14:21] afk [14:21] Mrchrisdruif but when running it all windows will be centered on my screen but nvm thx tho [14:21] esing, not really, just 4 [14:21] ah ok ^^ [14:22] esing, it was spinal tap -joke [14:23] What percentage of the system's time is taken up through journaling? [14:23] esing, run terminal [14:23] amd tell me if this command locks the screen for you [14:23] xscreensaver-command -lock [14:26] ok sec [14:26] yes it does [14:26] :) [14:27] hmm, then why screenlock icon doesn't [14:27] :/ [14:27] dunno [14:27] Does everyone here use the journaling version of Ext2, ext3? [14:27] we use ext4 [14:27] ext4 [14:27] that's like year 2011 [14:27] ChanServ, i wouldn't bother about the perormance side of ext3 [14:27] data security is more important i think [14:28] except [14:28] lol [14:28] if he's using some usb pen drive [14:28] except the times when you're running debian on P166 [14:28] then ext2 [14:28] or flashdrives [14:28] that's true [14:28] ok... What about a 6-10 year old hard disk? [14:28] install ZFS ;D [14:32] esing: You were talking about that lock screen.... [14:32] Is zfs pretty good? I was thinking of having a large fat-32 partition as a sort of reserve parachute but that would bring me to 4 partitions... [14:32] Meh....don't talk on two conversations after 4 hours of sleep :P [14:42] Finally; found it: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/33552/htg-explains-which-linux-file-system-should-you-choose/ [14:42] Comparison of #nix filesystems [14:51] However you can use Ext4's optimalisaties without journaling... [14:52] hi! i'm here again! so ho can i make thunar the default file manager?¿ [14:54] nautilus [14:55] victor__: I think you can just install thunar or nautilus and remove PCmanFM [14:55] edit xdg-open :D [14:55] MrChrisDruif tells you what and where [14:55] I'm off from work [14:56] I do? =-O [14:56] yep [14:56] I don't know [14:57] please! i want nautilus as a default [14:57] and ofcourse, preferred applications is okay setup too [14:57] preferences -> preferred applications [14:57] I think there was filebrowser [14:58] no just email and web browser [14:58] well, then it's xdg-open [14:58] Always try...if I only had Lubuntu installed atm....then I could look at the file myself [14:59] you dont have? [14:59] it's my first time on lubuntu :( [15:00] where's xdg-open? [15:00] sudo find / |grep xdg-open [15:01] who has the fastest hard drive [15:02] You? :P [15:02] I don't care xD [15:02] /usr/bin/xdg-open [15:02] it's a script file [15:02] yup... [15:03] I've got it as well on "normal" Ubuntu [15:03] edit it with nano, gedit or whathever editor you want [15:03] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ#When%20clicking%20in%20Chromium%20%22Show%20in%20Folder%22%20it%20spawns%20a%20new%20tab%20that%20shows%20only%20directory%20listing [15:03] i think it is what bioterror meant === zmijunkie_ is now known as zmijunkie [15:04] http://wiki.lxde.org/en/Desktop_Preferred_Applications_Specification [15:15] what about get compositing? [15:19] Is it possible to have a primary partition for the ubuntu swap in stead of a logical partition under the same partition as the root? [15:19] Correction: Is it possible to have a seperate/unique primary partition for the ubuntu swap in stead of a logical partition under the same primary partition as the root? [15:21] Sorry If my question belongs in #ubuntu-beginners :/ [15:22] swap can be either primary or logical partition [15:22] there's no difference there [15:22] but i prefer swap as logical [15:23] victor__, did you found out how to change default file manager? [15:23] nop :( [15:23] right click on lxpanel [15:24] choose settings [15:24] on advanced tab you have file manager entry [15:24] replace pcmanfm %s with thunar %s [15:24] and you're done [15:25] did you find it? [15:25] thanks so much! :P [15:25] no problem [15:25] szczur, what about compsiting? is it possible? [15:26] you can use xcompmgr [15:26] don't know if compiz works [15:26] i think it should [15:26] but i used xcompmgr without problems [15:27] just put it in /etx/xdg/lxsession/LXDE/autostart [15:27] as @xcompmgr [15:28] and compositing will be enabled at the start of the system [15:29] you can try compiz [15:29] plus compiz-icon to control it easily (this will put an icon in taskbar to change all of the options) [15:30] Does the /Boot partition have to be primary, or can it be logical? [15:30] you don't have to make separate /boot partition [15:31] every partition can be logical, (except the windows one, because Windows can't boot from logical ones, at least every windows to XP including ) [15:31] including XP* [15:32] charliemac, easiest way to go would be creating /home, /, swap [15:32] szczur, and to start dropbox at the startup just add @ dropbox here? /etx/xdg/lxsession/LXDE/autostart [15:33] victor__, never used dropbox [15:33] but if you're running it this way from cli [15:33] ok i'm trying [15:33] i think it is the correct way to do it [15:34] and LXDe folder may be called Lubuntu too [15:34] please check this before changing anything [15:35] i thought we use .desktop files in autostart [15:36] just pointing to openbox conv [15:36] dropbox, sorry [15:36] don't know [15:37] i put commands like i would run it in terminal [15:37] i use .desktop [15:38] but i'm talking about /etx/xdg/lxsession/LXDE/autostart file [15:39] szczur, compositing didn't start :( [15:39] hmmm [15:40] or perharps i don't know if it's active lol [15:40] run lxterminal [15:41] and then? [15:41] titia@konna:~/.config/autostart$ ls [15:41] conky.desktop xfce4-settings-helper-autostart.desktop xfconf-migration-4.6.desktop [15:42] guess whos conky starts on login [15:42] victor__, Edit -> preferences [15:42] background [15:43] and set opacity to for example 160 [15:43] szczur, thats correct way for lubuntu as its per user [15:43] and tell me if lxtemrinal is transparent [15:44] ok wait [15:44] i don't find bachground [15:46] Edit > Preferences [15:46] on Style tab, there's Background colour [15:46] where you can change it [15:47] What would the mount-point be for a windows/linux shared fat-32 shared space? [15:48] charlie, /media/share [15:49] or what ever you want [15:51] bioterror: The only options I have in grub are /DOS, /windows, enter manually, and do not mount it. I take it you're suggesting I enter it manually, no? What if I choose no-mount? [15:51] charliemac, i would use ntfs [15:51] not fat32 [15:51] if you choose not to mount, the partition will not be mounted [15:52] What are the implications of ntfs vs fat32? [15:52] are you a troll [15:52] max file size of fat32 is 4 GB [15:52] honest answer [15:52] troll?! who lol [15:53] yep, ure a troll [15:53] what's that even mean in this context? [15:54] !troll [15:54] doesnt know :( [15:55] ? === quem_ is now known as quem [15:58] charliemac, http://www.theeldergeek.com/ntfs_or_fat32_file_system.htm < i think it is obvious :P [16:01] can all file systems hold the same formats? For example, will an Mp3 take up the same amount of space on a fat-32 as it would on Ext2? [16:01] ... [16:02] try it out [16:02] make fat32 [16:02] unzip whole hvsc into it [16:03] and then take lets say reiserfs [16:03] and tell us if theres difference [16:03] I've actually read that "Linux has a history of disliking NTFS so it should be avoided whenever possible." . [16:14] which was written 2005 when they didnt have any clue about NTFS-3G or NTFS-FUSE [16:15] oh gsus [16:20] gsus? [16:20] * szczur starts firefox [16:20] :) [16:21] whoa ipv6 address ;) [16:21] hi guylain [16:22] hi szczur, just installing lubuntu and checking the apps. sorry for disturbing you... :) [16:22] * szczur wasn't disturbed at all === quem_ is now known as quem [17:28] hey :L) [17:28] I need to configure my own kernel [17:37] anyone know about networkmanager in lubuntu? [17:46] hi [17:46] hi [17:46] I wanted to compile a program which doesnt worked, could it be that there is more difference between ubuntu 10.10 and lubuntu 10.10 than the desktop environement lxde?? [17:47] *shrug* what program? [17:47] it from dedected [17:47] (dedected.org) for testings dect phones [17:48] with a "com on air pcmcia III card" [17:48] maybe pastebin all your terminal output? [17:49] see here http://pastebin.com/7P1PKE3b [17:50] is it a kernel patch? [17:50] bioterror you there? :)) [17:50] not taking part in this, not my speciality [17:50] ;) [17:50] hehe [17:51] ChogyDan i compiled the program with this [17:51] ChogyDan sudo make && make -C tools [17:51] bioterror [17:51] but could it be that lubuntu has a slightly different kernel than ubuntu [17:52] I doubt it [17:52] no [17:52] but someone tells me to install ubuntu 10.10 to check if it works there [17:52] should I do it or not? [17:53] try sudo -i, and then running the make stuff [17:53] not working [17:53] did you use alternate install? [17:54] or was it lubuntu-10.10.iso? [17:55] it was lubuntu 10.10 [17:55] not alternate [17:57] hmm [17:57] btw [17:57] someone can send me the chromium simlink [17:57] I deleted it [17:57] :P [17:58] esing: it looks like it is tripping up on some kernel code, and it looks like the project hasn't been updated for 2 years [17:59] probably it is just out of date :( [17:59] yes this could be [17:59] hmm [18:00] in the tutorial they said I need following kernel ... [18:00] sudo apt-get install linux-source-2.6.35 [18:00] how can I get that kernel? [18:01] what does uname -a say for you? [18:02] 3 2.6.35-25-generic [18:02] it is the same? isnt it ? [18:02] yea [18:03] sudo apt-get install linux-tools-2.6.35-22 [18:03] ( i should get that too) [18:03] I did it too [18:04] sorry I dunno, gl [18:04] *lol* [18:04] thx [18:04] tho [18:05] np [18:10] bioterror :D [18:10] could you have a short look on it with teamviewer? ^ [18:10] ^^ [18:10] http://www.teamviewer.com/de/download/index.aspx [18:10] your professional eye is required xD [18:13] szczur here? :P [18:13] *nerving* [18:23] that's not how we deal with problems [18:27] *usually* [18:27] this problems is expoding my nerves [18:27] :D [18:31] Pleeeease Help Somebody :((((((((( [18:31] :((((((((((( [18:36] esing, what's the problem? [18:38] hmm, never used teamviewer [18:38] scan't help ypu with it [18:39] since i don't have LAN in my home [18:47] re [18:47] szczur I wanted to install a driver for my pcmcia III com on air card (dect card) [18:47] but when compiling several error occure [18:48] ack :/ [18:48] http://pastebin.com/7P1PKE3b [18:48] ^ [18:48] maybe you're missing some -dev -files? [18:49] I'm too lazy to svn or git that source [18:49] heh c'mon [18:49] how do I delete all files? just remove the folder via gui? [18:49] then I can redownload all [18:50] szczur i think u dont need lan for teamviewer, only your internet IP ;) [18:50] or better to say my internet IP when you access my computer [18:52] yeah, but i love to test something [18:52] before telling the solution [18:52] okay [18:52] otherwise you're going to install packages for 64 bits :P [18:52] *g* [18:52] :> [18:54] suczur you and me were too long awake yesterdya [18:54] ^^ [18:54] have to go with the dog [18:54] be right back [18:54] 10 mins [18:55] okay [19:11] cleaned the whole home at this time *smile* [19:11] :) [19:11] you seem to be rm -rf(trigger) happy ; [19:12] what do you mean with rm -rf(trigger) ^^ [19:13] i googled it but cant find out what it is ^^ [19:13] rm = remove [19:13] -r = recursive [19:13] -f = force [19:13] lol ^^ [19:13] http://www.thefreedictionary.com/trigger-happy [19:14] Iam not a trigger :P [19:15] bioterror pls link in :D [19:15] svn co :P [19:17] back [19:18] szczur, you better have a mastiff dog [19:18] compilation faild with the same error [19:18] nope [19:19] normal dog [19:19] wiki calls it "Mixed-breed dog" :P [19:20] yeaaa [19:20] those usually lives longer than pure breeded [19:20] we have daily a cat visiting us from our neighbour [19:20] wish they hadn't :P [19:20] at least this particular dog [19:20] :) [19:20] she likes eating fish meal [19:20] ahhh [19:21] *g* [19:21] this is sloooow [19:21] I'm used to my desktop and arch mirrors [19:21] 32% [1 linux-source-2.6.37 25.3 MB/77.5 MB 32%] 1,050 kB/s 49s [19:22] let us all solve my problem :D [19:23] see what this user wrote: [19:23] if the sources haven't been updated you won't get the kernel modules compiled [19:23] userspace won't help you in such a case. so make sure your kernel module works first. [19:24] szczur tanked enough energy for teamplayer? [19:24] teamviewer? [19:25] yus [19:25] you can see my laptop, just have to give u my ip [19:25] see what this user just wrote to me [19:25] the reverse engineered drivers from dedected.org won [19:25] t work on actual kernels [19:25] https://dedected.org/trac/ticket/139 [19:25] you have to use an older one to use dect_cli and so on [19:25] use Patrick McHardys DECT Stack to get dect working with actual linux kernels [19:25] * Fatuo (~FuegoFatu@84.121.72.188.dyn.user.ono.com) hat #osmocom betreten [19:27] szczur and bioterror I think I need to get an old kernel or customize my kernel [19:27] never did it successfully [19:27] so i wont be helpful here [19:27] hmm [19:28] bioterror ^^ [19:28] *eyes looking on you* [19:28] *lol* [19:32] bioterror .. [19:33] hahahahaha [19:33] % make && make -C tools .:21:32:33 on 11-01-28:. [19:33] make -C /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build/ M=/tmp/dedected/com-on-air_cs-linux modules [19:33] make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.37-ARCH/build/: No such file or directory. Stop. [19:33] make: *** [default] Error 2 [19:34] sowwy [19:35] :/ ack [19:35] this wasn't helpful at all :P [19:37] ? === RedW is now known as RedM [19:39] bwahahaha [19:40] teamviewer is windows program packed with wine [19:40] woot [19:40] nevermind [19:40] esing, are you running teamviewer right now? [19:40] so i can connect to you? [19:41] second [19:42] I just get some usefull patches [19:42] :) [19:43] hey how can i make xcompmgr start at reboot? [19:44] you're sure that you're not running it after the thing we did earlier? [19:44] ps aux | grep xcompmgr [19:44] run this in terminal [19:45] szczur, victor 1558 0.0 0.0 4024 764 pts/0 S+ 20:45 0:00 grep --color=auto xcompmgr [19:46] ack :/ [19:46] ok, lemme try something [19:46] what do i exactly have to write on autostart? [19:46] i had @xcompmgr [19:47] but we will do it bioterror's way [19:49] victor__, download this file http://szczur.ath.cx/xcompmgr.desktop [19:49] and put it in ~/.config/autostart [19:49] then log out and log in [19:50] xcompmgr should be running [19:50] probably needs a tap in to something in preferences [19:50] not using lxde atm [19:51] be right back [19:51] just checking if it is working [19:51] ok [19:53] yes, it works :) [19:54] ofcourse [19:54] now you remember how to make app to autostart ;) [19:54] :P [19:57] szczur iam soon finished with my attempt [19:57] then you are free to enter my lap :D [19:57] some guy sent me some patches I should try to use on the driver [20:03] szczur, don't worry it isn't that important... however dropbox is... i got installing it but no chance at statup :( [20:06] szczur iam stuck currently cant do anything at this laptop [20:06] there comes an error [20:06] after trying to run /home/user as root [20:07] how can I close the error ? [20:08] ummm, what youre trying to run as root? [20:09] what command [20:20] i run the file manager as root [20:21] in the folder /home/user [20:27] and something like "Permission denied" popped up? [20:28] click ok :) [20:34] ok re [20:34] :) [20:34] i was disced [20:34] yep I clicked ok [20:34] but it didnt close [20:34] I tried sudo killall pcfanman [20:35] szczur I tried to patch the driver but an error occures see here http://pastebin.com/FWDBu3z3 [20:35] sudo patch -Np1 -i patch1 [20:35] this will work i think [20:36] ok thx [20:36] that is the same [20:36] I tried [20:36] ah np1 [20:36] :) [20:37] still failed [20:37] hmmm p1 should work [20:37] anything changed? [20:37] same errors [20:38] give me this patch [20:38] hmm p2 worked [20:38] but patch1 not [20:38] want to access to my pc now? [20:38] :) [20:38] sec I download teamviwer [20:38] :)) [20:39] nope, i want to get the patch :) [20:39] hehe [20:39] you have an email? [20:40] send me you email then I can send you all 8 patches [20:41] magik17l@gmail.com [20:41] thnx [20:41] seems like someone is not going to give up easily [20:42] ok out [20:42] hehe bioterror , you are the funniest one ^^ [20:43] *smile* ^^ [20:43] szczur received? [20:44] yup [20:45] grml I wanted to read this night a swedish book ^^, but lubuntu is more important :D [20:47] i think patch 2 didnt work too [20:47] http://pastebin.com/2eXEy2nH [20:47] I didnt read carefully enough [20:47] not every patch applies [20:47] hmm [20:48] what should I do now? [20:48] p1 [20:48] why p2 [20:48] ah p1 [20:48] sec [20:48] succeeded [20:48] yeaa [20:48] (patch 2) [20:49] patch 2,3,4 worked patch 5 skipped [20:49] same for me [20:49] nah I mean 2,3, 5 worked 4 skipped ^^ [20:50] szczur you downloaded the driver? :)) [20:50] thnx [20:50] ok all worked [20:50] except patch 1 [20:50] yup [20:50] downloaded the source [20:51] so now I compile again yee [20:51] for me it still fails [20:51] maybe i did something wrong [20:51] :/ [20:51] hmm [20:52] Ye for me it fails too [20:52] :// [20:52] maybe patch 1 is necessary [20:55] patch 1 need to "--" more in first line [20:55] but compiling still doesnt work [20:55] but patch1 works [20:55] .. [20:56] is it important to execute Patch1 first before others? [21:00] szczur you still here? [21:01] yup [21:01] what would you suggest now [21:01] but i'm not experienced in fixing compilation errors [21:01] ye [21:01] szczur in ubuntu 9.10 it will work [21:02] is it difficult to change the kernel back to old ubuntu? [21:03] install 9.10 in a virtual box [21:03] ahaha [21:03] *g* [21:03] bioterror what about changing only the kernel? [21:03] I give you my IP and I watch you :D [21:04] bioterror seriously what should I do now? [21:05] as your lawyer I suggest you to get wasted [21:05] :D [21:08] lol [21:08] bioterror iam very near to that point *smile* [21:08] but be honest now [21:08] should i get virtual ubuntu or compile it reverse? [21:10] what's the kernel you need [21:11] 9.10 [21:11] no [21:11] kernel [21:11] linux-image [21:11] the kernel 9.10 used back in the days [21:11] I dont know which version it was [21:12] but it certainly have to work with it [21:12] oh well [21:13] this posted somebody on the mailing list : " [21:13] if you read the list here longer than 2 days you have seen that our driver [21:13] at the moment will not work with ubuntu 10.10, but with 9.10. [21:13] " [21:13] http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ [21:14] you need image and header [21:14] dpkg -i asdasdasdasd.deb [21:15] mhm which kernel version should I take tho? [21:15] http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v2.6.31.13-karmic/ maybe this? [21:15] ok good [21:15] i386 [21:15] yep [21:16] dpkg -i http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v2.6.31.13-karmic/linux-headers-2.6.31-02063113-generic_2.6.31-02063113_i386.deb [21:17] i do this first [21:17] wget it first [21:17] ah k [21:17] use /tmp [21:17] for example [21:22] i read the manual a little bit [21:23] but i cant figure out how to determine where wget downloads the file to [21:23] where you said it [21:23] how to write the syntax [21:27] ok i found out bioterror [21:27] now I download the image [21:28] small moments of satisfaction when you figure out things ;) [21:29] sooo delightful :_ [21:29] :)* [21:29] *smile* ^^ [21:29] what should I do next [21:29] *ready* [21:29] you installed image and headers? [21:30] ah ok [21:30] sec [21:30] *hurrying up* [21:32] ok ready [21:32] it says "done" [21:32] reboot and choose your "brand new" :D:D:D kernel from the grub's list [21:32] hehe awesome :D [21:32] *that easy* ?? :D [21:32] hoep it boots [21:32] do you get grub list on the boot? [21:32] ok I try immediatly [21:32] no i dont [21:32] I have only 1 os [21:33] well, press shift [21:33] okay [21:33] is it left shift [21:33] after bios stuff instantly shift [21:33] hammer that shift! [21:33] okay, see you in a minute then :D [21:33] *lol* [21:33] * bioterror holds his breath [21:34] *smile* [21:34] bioterror faints [21:34] :P [21:34] we get pretty lame payment for an hour with this case [21:35] heh :P [21:35] pretty low speed of solving problems [21:36] worse code... [21:36] yesterday was easier [21:37] and not working patches [21:37] something like acx100 [21:37] for my wireless card [21:37] i got rid of it since it supported only WEP [21:37] that's alwasy great [21:38] yeah [21:38] 5 minut longer [21:38] without entry [21:38] i'd say awesome :) === head_v is now known as head_victim [21:41] long boot [21:41] yeah [21:41] maybe he broke his L_Shift :P [21:42] he's having eternal boot loop as he cant get into grub list [21:43] (re) [21:44] weee, and here comes esing :) [21:44] heh :D [21:44] with 2.6.35 kernel? :D [21:44] it worked booting from the older kernel yeaa [21:44] esing, uname -a [21:44] 31 [21:44] or we dont belieave you [21:44] sec [21:45] core-ThinkPad-T43 2.6.31-02063113-generic #02063113 SMP Fri Jun 4 19:02:37 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux [21:45] :D [21:45] 2.6.31 ^^ [21:45] :D [21:45] o/// [21:45] but I tried to compile yet [21:45] can you now compile [21:45] no ^^ [21:45] *smile* [21:45] it doesnt work? [21:45] I think because of the patches I did? [21:45] cvs it again? [21:45] maybe I should delete everything [21:45] svn [21:45] yes I do again now [21:45] then download it again [21:45] ok [21:45] svn to another dir [21:46] oki [21:46] cd /tmp [21:46] svn asdasdasd [21:46] yus [21:47] I'm waiting, I have to hit the bed [21:49] hmm [21:49] see here http://pastebin.com/4MKAkatZ [21:49] it says Makefile: didnt find directory [21:49] "no rule to create Makefile" [21:49] "exiting directory ..." [21:50] 2 errors [21:50] you should not use sudo for make [21:50] only for make install [21:50] actually [21:50] ah okay [21:51] what should I use instead? [21:51] just make [21:51] without sudo [21:51] okay i try again [21:51] doesnt work [21:51] :((( === quem_ is now known as quem [21:52] time to put hands down and say "that software sucks" [21:52] lol [21:58] bioterror [21:58] maybe because i still have the OS 10.10 [21:59] is it possible to install an older distru apart from 10.10? [21:59] or should I try virtual 9.10 /8.10 [22:01] for what you really need that driver [22:01] stuff [22:01] could you tell me again [22:01] it is to test my dect phone on encryption [22:02] I bought a card plus antenna for this, I dont want to waste that hardware ^^ [22:03] it basically caputeres 1.5 mhz data to pcap and then I have to convert and merge it... and then i can see wheather my calls are encrypted or not [22:03] okay [22:03] bioterror I just downloaded this http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads [22:03] 9.10 [22:04] is this correct for a virtual 9.10 ubuntu? [22:04] I have no idea [22:04] phillw, [22:04] hehe :) [22:05] * bioterror summons phillw [22:06] bioterror np [22:06] I will try tomorrow then [22:06] I go asleep earlier today too [22:06] phillw runs 9.10 [22:06] ah I see [22:06] esing: there is a work around for some of the kernel problems with 3G devices [22:06] :D [22:06] I just remembered [22:06] :D [22:06] phillw, could you would p-p-p-please [22:06] phillw i dont use 3g devices [22:07] :D [22:07] phillw i want to use dedected [22:07] which doesnt work on 10.10 ^^ [22:07] Maybe you could try if it works on your 9.10 os [22:08] esing: that should be reported as a bug [22:08] here you go phillw svn co https://dedected.org/svn/trunk dedected [22:08] phillw it is reported yet [22:08] that made a patch which doesnt work tho [22:08] *they [22:09] cd /dedected/com-on-air_cs-linux [22:09] and then sudo make && sudo make -C tools [22:09] :))) [22:09] nope [22:09] *** make && make -C tools [22:09] just make [22:09] :D [22:09] esing: update the bug, ibugs can only be fixed if the devs know about them :) [22:09] :P [22:09] *smile* [22:09] phillw, dont you start dodging this problem! [22:09] *big smile* [22:09] :D [22:10] me n my mate sz been working with this whole evening [22:10] !! [22:10] hehe [22:10] bioterror: I'm just admin - you h [22:10] haha [22:10] but you have 9.10 [22:10] guys are front line support :) [22:11] my name is phil too in real life [22:11] cmon help me ^^ [22:11] :D [22:11] *g* [22:11] usually I am grumpy, but now I am almost laughing [22:11] bioterror: I run 9.10 ubuntu, no kernel updates for my 3G device, I'm not too sure how I can help? [22:12] phillw, svn the source code, and try to run make [22:12] you're only one with ancient os ;) [22:12] hah :-] [22:13] 9.10 is so old that it have been enbalmed and it almost walks [22:13] hehe [22:14] bioterror i even soldered the transceiver of the pcmcia III card externly so it fits into the II slot [22:14] grml internet cuts sec [22:14] you're working with embedded systems or something? [22:15] esing: I'm sending you an invite [22:15] nah I dont do openBSC, this pcmcia III card (com on air) does only receive the 1.5 mhz dect signals [22:16] I'm off to ed [22:16] bed [22:16] wife went already and was angry :D [22:16] good night [22:16] hehe [22:16] good night to you [22:16] :) [22:16] maybe I'll get more than 4 hours of sleep [22:16] hah :D [22:16] as you said yesterday [22:16] *g* [22:17] phillw does it work? === quem_ is now known as quem