[00:25] is it posible to add a button to the panel that when clicked will mute my mic? === szczur_ is now known as szczur [03:23] Hello all. Can someone please tell me what the recommended partition size for root and swap partition is for a new install please? [03:33] Anyone? [03:41] Unguided: Root partition has to be at least 2.6 Gbs, recommended 10Gbs. [03:42] Unguided: Swap space should be 1.5x your RAM. [03:43] JackyAlcine: OK. I can do that. I read the recommendation somewhere but i could not remember. Thank You so much for the help. [03:44] Unguided: No problem, always free free to ask questions here. [03:45] JackyAlcine: any other partitions you would recommend and if so what size. I know home is where the user files are stored and this is n=my first full install on an older laptop. [03:48] Well, normally it's safe to install everything onto one partition, but to ensure data integrity after a (God forbid) system failure that won't hopefully harm your home directory, you can split the root partition into two parts; I recommend at least 70 Gbs for /home (your home folder) and 30 Gbs for your root directory (/) [03:48] This can be done in the Advanced Settings in the Ubiquity dialog (installation screen), Unguided. [03:49] Ensure that after those two resizing, you still have 1.5xRAM Gbs of space for swap. [03:51] So what do you recommend for a 40gb HD. the laptop is an older Gateway. its a 2.4ghz with 512mb ram and 40 gb hard drive [04:03] hm, if you've got an external drive you can easy backup /home to, I wouldn't seperate them in that case, and go with 1-2G swap and the rest for / [04:04] if you really want to seperate them, 5-10G for / should be enough, depending how much software you plan to install [04:07] Yofel: ok thanks. Ive been debating on buying a bigger HD but cant justify buying an IDE drive for it. [04:27] Off to sleep. Good night all. [05:08] hey all. just installed ubuntu on my buddy's laptop, and GRUB doesn't see windows 7 for some reason. win7 is still there, how can i get grub to 'see' it? [05:10] sudo update-grub maybe [05:10] arrrghhh: ^^ [05:10] it should just see it [05:10] try that, and note the output [05:11] holstein, i did try that... it sees itself (obviously) but no other partitions. [05:11] i have a "os" entry in the places menu [05:11] check and make sure its still there [05:11] and when i click it, i see my windows drive basically. [05:11] OH [05:11] ok [05:11] isn't that good enough? [05:11] lol [05:11] you can add it manually i suppose [05:11] in grub2 [05:12] how can i add it manually? [05:12] i was thinking about tryin that... i've honestly never had grub not see windows. [05:12] yeah, me either [05:13] so how can i add the entry to grub2 manually? [05:13] i would think you would add something to /boot/grub/grub.cfg [05:13] id probably google [05:13] and poke around on the grub2 wiki a bit [05:13] lol ok [05:13] surely this has come up on a forum somewheres [05:14] at least with xp [05:16] grub2 is complicated [05:16] you cannot just add to it like that [05:16] there are special files you have to change and then update it [05:16] in theory, you can [05:16] but you really shouldnt [05:16] if you do, it just reverts later [05:17] or, shouldnt have to [05:17] jiohdi, how can i fix this? [05:17] depends on what you change [05:17] jiohdi: if you add it to /etc/grub.d/40_custom, it won't [05:17] * holstein high-fives yofel [05:17] arrrghhh, you can run this script to get a what is where on the computer, pastebin it if needed if your near the computer. http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/ [05:17] yofel: yes, thats one of the ones you fix [05:18] might be missing a windows boot file if a partition was removed [05:19] nit-wit, yea that's probably what happened. [05:20] arrrghhh, I suspect it can be fixed without manually hacking grub2 [05:21] nit-wit, good news. i'll paste that output in a sec [05:21] arrrghhh, I have a script with the correct files if you don't know what to look for.:) [05:22] holstein, just seeing whats up.:) [05:22] nit-wit, i wouldn't consider myself a beginner, but i feel like one after this! [05:22] arrrghhh, I am to. [05:26] nit-wit, http://pastebin.com/qV5KQjci [05:27] arrrghhh, easy fix hold on. [05:28] arrrghhh, look at sda3 and notice the missing here is what it should look like /bootmgr /Boot/BCD /Windows/System32/winload.exe [05:28] arrrghhh, this is missing /bootmgr /Boot/BCD [05:29] ok... how do i fix it? [05:29] arrrghhh, the bootflag is on sda1 should be on sda3 [05:29] but GRUB is on sda1? [05:30] arrrghhh, you can put the bootflag on sda3 ten boot the recovery disc and run the autorepair three times or go to the command and run bootrec.exe /fixboot [05:30] arrrghhh, grub ias not the problem nor does it need a bootflag [05:30] *is [05:30] oic [05:30] ok [05:31] so i boot to the win7 recovery disc [05:31] and run bootrec.exe /fixboot [05:31] arrrghhh, one or the other I would just let the repair run you will just reload grub to the mbr its easy I wil lhelp you. [05:32] ok booting to recovery win7 now [05:32] arrrghhh, repair or the command not both [05:32] k [05:32] doin the command [05:32] haven't done repair [05:33] hrm. where do i run that command from? [05:33] arrrghhh, sometimes the repair command doesn't compete and the repair does so well those are the two methods. [05:34] arrrghhh, choose the languga then repiar the get to the repair section hold on I will get you w windows 7 visual link [05:34] ok [05:34] i am and the cmd prompt [05:34] from repair [05:34] arrrghhh, here is a visual to the command line http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/20864-mbr-restore-windows-7-master-boot-record.html [05:35] the is a command terminal in repair [05:35] *there [05:35] arrrghhh, the link is for just getting to the terminal. [05:36] oh i'm at the terminal [05:36] arrrghhh, if you run the command reboot to Ubuntu and run update-grub [05:36] nit-wit, i'm at the win7 terminal [05:36] arrrghhh, hold on [05:36] from system recovery options i chose command prompt [05:36] np [05:37] arrrghhh, I was just making sure I gave you the correct command [05:37] arrrghhh, yes command prompt as in the pictures [05:37] yup [05:38] no worries [05:38] i identified the disk [05:38] did cd boot [05:38] and dir [05:38] i have a bootsect.exe [05:39] arrrghhh, BootRec.exe /FixBoot [05:39] i did that before [05:39] "The volume does not contain a recognized file system" [05:40] arrrghhh, that is all you have to do, if thats what you just did one command reboot to ubuntu and run sudo update-grub [05:41] arrrghhh, okay your confusing me, when did you do that before [05:41] nit-wit, that command didn't work [05:41] i ran bootsect.exe /fixboot [05:41] arrrghhh, exsplain [05:41] and it gave me that error [05:42] arrrghhh, did you move the bootflag to sda3 before boot the recovery disc [05:43] crap... skipped that step. [05:43] i installed this debian pkg - linux ssl vpn and i cannot find it on my computer [05:43] arrrghhh, do that reboot and try again, easy mistake no harm done.:) [05:44] it was - ssl vpn installer rpm pkg - got message that says it was installed but i cannot find it on my computer [05:44] brb [05:46] arrrghhh, I assume you know how to use gparted to change the boot flag. [05:46] nit-wit, yup doin that now. [05:46] k ntfs drive now has bootflag [05:47] arrrghhh, cool [05:47] then back to win7 recovery? [05:48] arrrghhh, yeah it should work now, but sometimes it doesn't then you use the repair at the top line on the same screen as the command choice [05:49] arrrghhh, were hoping to slide in the missing files and keep grub in place. [05:49] nit-wit, if i have to re-setup grub it'll be fine [05:50] arrrghhh, loading the mbr is easy [05:55] nit-wit, man i hate windows. my version of win7 is ultimate and his version is home premium, so startup repair is not working. [05:55] making progress tho, at least it sees there is a windows install there :D [05:57] arrrghhh, here is a recovery disc download, it is a ISO. http://neosmart.net/blog/2009/windows-7-system-repair-discs/ [05:57] arrrghhh, every disc is the same they all have all the versions in 32 or 64 bit. [05:58] arrrghhh, the recovery down load is just a small bit of data to get you to the command [05:59] *comman/reair...etc [05:59] *repair [06:11] nit-wit, any other ideas? i just get "BOOTMGR is missing" now. [06:11] arrrghhh, so what have you done exactly [06:12] nit-wit, well enabled that bootflag [06:12] so /dev/sda3 has the bootflag [06:12] arrrghhh, good, and [06:12] tried the bootrec /fixboot [06:12] rebooted, bootmgr not found [06:12] try bootsect /nt60 c: [06:12] reboot, fail [06:13] bootsect /nt60 SYS /mbr [06:13] fail [06:13] arrrghhh, the autorepair wouldn't run? [06:13] nope [06:13] said it failed as well [06:14] although it keeps whining about how it's not the right version [06:14] arrrghhh, what was the actual error as you need to run it 3 times [06:14] arrrghhh, download the recovery disc posted. [06:14] i need to run the bootrec command 3x? [06:15] arrrghhh, no, look at the 4 screen picture on the w& forums link there is a auto repair that is run 3 times [06:15] arrrghhh, 4th scree W7 forums link. [06:17] the command prompt screen? [06:18] arrrghhh, yes at the top is startup repair=3 times [06:18] oh [06:18] hrm [06:18] i guess i'll try it 3x [06:18] it fails every time tho [06:18] arrrghhh, did you try that yet? [06:19] i don't know if i've done it 3x [06:19] i tried startup repair [06:19] and it always fails [06:19] offers to send an error report... [06:19] arrrghhh, okay, but did you run it 3 times in a row without other commands. [06:19] probably not. [06:19] so i run it, reboot, run it, reboot, run it reboot? [06:20] arrrghhh, no run it 3 times before ren=booting [06:21] hrm [06:21] ok [06:21] arrrghhh, If your getting errors with your disc then download the link and burn a disc and use it. [06:22] arrrghhh, errors I mean your description of a mysterious error of your disc not working, you do,t give a exact account here. [06:22] eh this is a windows repair now as i see it [06:23] so i'll just pick this up tomorrow. i do appreicate all your help tho. [06:23] still boggles my mind how ubuntu didn't find win... oy. [06:24] arrrghhh, no problem this if W7 is intact is a easy fix, I help people everyday with just this sort of thing at the Ubuntu forums. [06:26] arrrghhh, Ubuntu didn't find windows due to missing files, somebody removed the partition where they were. It is not Ubuntu or grub here. [06:27] nit-wit, yea i wiped the 'recovery partition' basically [06:28] but i thought that would be OK assuming i left the 'main' partition [06:28] i thought recovery was just to reimage the machine in case something happens... [06:29] arrrghhh, this is where that bootscript will help you in the future, if you had run it you would have seen that you were missing the files on sda3 and inserted them and booted it to make sure it works before removing the recovery. === seidos_ is now known as seidos [06:30] nit-wit, well i removed it and installed ubuntu on that recovery part. did the same thing with several other computers [06:30] arrrghhh, with factory installs the boot bcd can be in up to 3 partitions. [06:31] damn. [06:31] i bet that little fat16 one i blew away... [06:31] i should've left it. bah. [06:32] arrrghhh, no big deal I think the downloaded recovery disc may work, it does all the rest of times, I rarely see failures here if people follow the command or autorepair proptocol correctly. [06:32] ok [06:32] i'll download that iso tomorrow [06:33] arrrghhh, That will probably do it. [08:42] hi is natty narwhal is release or not [08:42] same in english please [08:42] is natty what [08:42] released? [08:45] breaking news! :D [08:46] ??? [08:50] geekosopher: What's the *breaking* news? [08:58] MrChrisDruif: i was referring to the natty release mentioned by bioterror ;) [08:58] yep, never got an answer [08:59] I didn't see that naty release mention...hence my question about the epic news... [08:59] +t [09:00] never mind, was just trying to be 'punny' :) [09:01] Is the second alpha out or something? [09:01] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NattyReleaseSchedule [09:02] Alright....so feb 3rd :) [09:03] Lubuntu has Feb. 3rd too [09:03] Awesome :) [09:24] How do I choose the correct Partitioning option when following ? [09:27] I would have installed #lubuntu, but I couldn't boot from the CD-rom [09:45] how can I change my USER@ for use on IRC, or is it bound to my account name? [09:49] maR3: You mean IRC-nick? [09:50] no, I mean the user in user@host :) [09:50] maR3(marensius@146.80-202-239.nextgentel.com) the "marensius" part :-) [09:51] Isn't that your account name for IRC? :) So I think it can't be changed [09:52] it is my account name in ubuntu yes, however when I blocked port 113 I could manipulate it to whatever I want ,however when I opened 113 for oidentd it got bound to my account name, so now im interessted in manipulating it again ;) changing the user in the .conf didnt help me :( so now I seek help ;) [09:54] Well...I don't know, sorry :) [09:54] np, thanks for trying though ;) [09:55] maR3: as you mentioned, it is your username on that computer [09:55] yep, however, isnt it possible for me to override it? [09:56] I think you can change it in your irc client [09:56] which one are you using? [09:56] I have tried changing it in both Xchat(which I am using now) and Irssi, without positive results [09:56] what did you try in irssi? [09:57] I changed the "user_name" in .irssi/config [09:58] hmmm... let me see [10:00] maR3: it works [10:00] do this: [10:01] when you are in irssi, type "/set user_name " [10:01] then quit irssi [10:01] start again [10:01] maR3: you there? [10:01] that only works for me when I block port 113 for oident :( [10:02] has no effect for me when 113 is open [10:03] don't know much about that though :( [10:03] me neither :p thanks for trying ;D I will experiment some, or just, block 113 again ;) [10:03] np :) === yofel_ is now known as yofel [12:47] I'm configuring a DHCP and DNS server and am unsure what I should do with the following lines in /etc/dhcp3/dhcp.conf: [12:47] # option definitions common to all supported networks... [12:47] option domain-name "http://example.org/"; [12:47] option domain-name-servers http://ns1.example.org/, http://ns2.example.org/; [13:00] hello kezkankrayon [13:01] hello [13:03] am trying to find out what the best practice is for domain name in /etc/dhcp3/dhcp.conf [13:05] i've got hermod.omara.id.au(CNAME) -> http://omara.dyndns-ip.com/ [13:59] hi can anyone help me [14:01] *helpful tip, if for some reason you cant read the topic in a new channel, /topic [14:01] madcSPYnX: Don't ask to ask an question, just ask it! If someone knows it, he will most likely respond :P [14:01] sometimes i cant read the whole thing in irssi [14:02] :) can i open my newly created encrypted file here in my ubuntu to a MS window [14:03] one easy way to find out [14:04] how [14:04] i don't have a mS window oS [14:04] lol [14:04] is it possible to open it in that os [14:04] madcSPYnX: whats the problem then? [14:04] you meant hypothetically? [14:05] * holstein shrugs [14:05] holstein: He wants to know before trying xD [14:05] i want to encrypt my external HDD [14:05] :) [14:05] then i want to sure if i can open it to the dark side OS [14:09] hi [14:09] i want to that right now [14:09] can u help me [14:09] hey [14:09] is that ok to create encrypted fat32 [14:09] madcSPYnX: is this relavant? [14:09] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1667904 [14:09] i was assuming lvm [14:15] i think it's not the same.. [14:16] it = the encryption? [14:17] root@ :/ ...not ideal [14:17] oh well [15:04] how can i open my encrypted user to my root [15:05] hey again madcSPYnX [15:06] i was going to say, its probably not ideal to run chat as root [15:06] anyways, what is your question? [15:06] you have an encrypted user? [15:07] i know that but i can't open my user account [15:07] i want to access my user home folder [15:07] you can log in as that user [15:08] and transfer it to my root account [15:08] i dont do a lot of lvm myself [15:08] but its not supposed to be easy [15:08] i would think you would need to log in as the user in question [15:09] no i want to access my user's file through my root [15:09] the file says encrypted-desktop [15:10] i want to access that how can i decrypt it using my root [15:10] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory [15:10] maybe https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EncryptedHomeFolder [15:11] "Normally fuse only allows access to the user who mounted an encrypted share; this is irrespective of the filesystem permissions. Because we used allow_root, the root user will be able to access your decrypted mount point" [15:12] hehehe i don't understand that [15:13] what do u mean [15:13] madcSPYnX: i just copied that from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EncryptedHomeFolder [15:13] i would assume that a setting somewhere [15:13] allow_root [15:14] ok :) [15:14] ok tnx [15:14] i think its a little conterproductive though [15:14] what is better to use an altenate cd or desktop cd [15:15] you're asking 'dont let anyone but this user open this' [15:15] and if you cahnge that [15:15] then, anyone with a live CD and sudo can access it [15:15] and if you change* [15:15] i mess my system i want to reinstall it [15:16] it =? [15:17] the system? [15:17] with encrypted home? [15:17] you have a passphrase or something right? [15:17] yea i lost my passphrase :( [15:18] i have a passphrase but i lost it [15:18] madcSPYnX: stop dcc sending me as well please [15:18] ok sorry [15:19] madcSPYnX: lvm encryption? [15:19] what is better to use an alternate cd or a desktop ubuntu cd [15:19] i don't knoww [15:20] alternate CD's cannot be used live [15:20] ok [15:20] alternate CD has more options [15:20] i know [15:20] well, *different install options [15:21] madcSPYnX: you know what? [15:21] can that cd automatic connnect me to a wifii [15:21] Is it possible to have a seperate/unique primary partition for the ubuntu swap in stead of a logical partition under the same primary partition as the root? [15:21] madcSPYnX: depends on your hardware [15:22] might need a restricted driver for you wireless card [15:22] but, in theory, yes [15:22] ok [15:23] charliemac: i think you can specify swap where ever you need [15:23] i remember having swap on an external SD card once [15:23] i gave up on the idea thoug [15:23] h [15:23] Ok, thanks! [15:24] is that alternate can install me a server and desktop at the same time? [15:24] like a debian installer [15:24] ubuntuserver = ubuntudesktop [15:24] so yes and no [15:25] you can run whatever servers you want that you would run on ubuntuserver [15:25] while running normal buntu [15:25] both [15:25] or, install gnome/kde or whatever on the server version [15:26] is that what u are saying is in the alternate cd or in desktop [15:26] both [15:27] everything is in the repositories anyways [15:27] ok [15:27] i want to install offline what should i use a dvd set or a cd [15:28] what do you want to end up with ? [15:28] the normal desktop live cd is a good place to start [15:29] a complete installion [15:29] like the 6 sets of dvd of debian [15:30] you can further define what you define as 'complete installation; [15:30] yyess [15:30] Does the /Boot partition have to be primary, or can it be logical? [15:30] charliemac: that im not sure of [15:30] primary [15:31] and must be 100mb only [15:46] What would the mount-point be for a windows/linux shared fat-32 shared space? [16:00] how can I get maven into eclipse by using apt-get? when I have user apt-get install eclipse maven2 I still cant find maven options in my eclipse program, anny suggestions? :) [17:55] maR3: open up eclipse market from within eclipse [19:02] anyone know the chromium ppa by heart? [19:02] dang it, where's mettatron when i need him [19:03] seidos: google knows all [19:03] https://launchpad.net/~chromium-daily/+archive/ppa [19:03] thats the daily one [19:03] be sure you get stable for testing if you prefer [19:15] hi! newbie with update problems.help plz.. [19:15] vangelis_: what OS ? [19:16] ubuntu 10.10 [19:16] whats the error? [19:17] when i try to update i get "failed to lock the package manager" [19:17] vangelis_: you got something else open? [19:17] synaptic? [19:17] nope [19:17] software center? [19:17] nope [19:17] vangelis_: close the update manager [19:17] and whatever else [19:17] open a terminal [19:17] do [19:17] sudo apt-get update [19:17] and sudo apt-get upgrade [19:17] and see if you have any error messages [19:22] could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11: resource temporarily unavailable) and unable to lock directory /var/lib/apt/lists/ [19:22] vangelis_: close synaptic or update manage then try the terminal. [19:23] yeah, thats why you get that error [19:23] when something else is already running [19:23] vangelis_: I'd reboot and then try the above terminal commands. [19:24] again the same messages. ok i'll try reboot. brb!! [19:36] i'm back.the update asks for the disc labeled ubuntu 10.10 (..) but when i press enter it reshows the same message.. pff [19:37] vangelis_: next time you restart [19:37] try those commands [19:37] sudo apt-get update [19:37] that asks for the packages to me updated [19:37] package cache [19:38] sudo apt-get upgrade [19:38] asks for the packages to actually be upgraded [19:38]