[13:17] <pmatulis> has anyone run the CC as KVM guest?  i would like to do this in a way that isolates it from any other cloud on the same network
[15:15] <AndyDoesClouds> hey, I'm copying and AMI from EU to US East. How do I select an aki? I have the list here... http://uec-images.ubuntu.com/query/maverick/server/daily.txt
[15:15] <AndyDoesClouds> and I know I need to ebs, i386 US-East-1
[15:16] <AndyDoesClouds> but that leaves lots of options..
[15:16] <AndyDoesClouds> would any of these work? do i need paravirtual?
[19:22] <kirkland> hallyn: hey
[19:22] <kirkland> hallyn: fyi, aliguori tells me that qemu 0.14 is due out for GA very shortly (within a couple of weeks)
[19:22] <kirkland> hallyn: depending on how quickly Avi releases qemu-kvm, we might be able to get qemu-kvm-0.14 into Natty
[19:22] <hallyn> kirkland: good timing, i was hoping to roll it into alpha3
[19:22] <hallyn> cool
[19:23] <kirkland> hallyn: "it" == qemu 0.14?
[19:23] <hallyn> yeah
[19:23] <kirkland> aliguori: do you have RC's out yet?
[19:23] <kirkland> hallyn: sweet
[19:23] <kirkland> hallyn: well, alpha3 probably won't work
[19:23] <hallyn> though we've done enough bughunting with 0.13.0, that i'm not sure we *should* risk 0.14.0 at the last minute :)
[19:23] <kirkland> hallyn: as we're in alpha3 freeze as of Tuesday
[19:23] <aliguori> Here's my proposal:
[19:23] <aliguori> Stable branch - 2/1
[19:23] <aliguori> 1 or 2 -rcs in between
[19:23] <aliguori> Stable release - 2/15
[19:23] <aliguori> Regards,
[19:23] <aliguori> Anthony Liguori
[19:23] <kirkland> hallyn: so to make alpha3, we'd need an upload by monday-ish
[19:24] <hallyn> kirkland: btw, i still have no idea what's going on with jdstrand's kvm corruption.  dunno if i'ts a kvm, ecryptfs, or hardware fault
[19:24] <kirkland> hallyn: well aliguori's schedule certainly meets our feature freeze
[19:24] <kirkland> hallyn: hmm, yeah, that one worries me
[19:24] <hallyn> aliguori: that was kindo  of formal :)
[19:24] <hallyn> well, we can give it a spin
[19:24] <hallyn> and if your machiens remain available, we can even test 32-bit this time
[19:25] <kirkland> hallyn: i can certainly keep them available
[19:26] <hallyn> awesome
[22:10] <kirkland> smoser: how much have you played around with spice?
[22:11] <smoser> that would be countable in minutes on one hand
[22:13] <kirkland> smoser: hmm, okay
[22:13] <kirkland> smoser: so qemu recently added a -vga qxl
[22:14] <kirkland> smoser: i don't think we have it in Ubuntu yet (but may be in qemu-kvm-0.14)
[22:14] <smoser> what is qxl?
[22:14] <smoser> is that spice ?
[22:14] <kirkland> smoser: anyway, i was curious what magic is required in the Ubuntu guest to run on a spice-capable hypervisor
[22:14] <kirkland> smoser: yeah
[22:14] <kirkland> smoser: I *think* xserver-xorg-video-qxl - X.Org X server -- QXL display driver
[22:15] <kirkland> smoser: i think that's what we need in the guest
[22:15] <smoser> that would make sense.
[22:16] <kirkland> smoser: i was kinda wondering if we might see if the desktop team wants to put that in main and on the CD, if so
[22:16] <kirkland> smoser: we should certainly put it in our cloud desktop images
[22:17] <kirkland> smoser: even if amazon isn't spice ready today, they could blog that they've turned it on at any random time :-)
[22:17] <smoser> well the ddesktiop images at this poith are still really only  main
[22:17] <smoser> so, get it in there.
[22:17] <smoser> amazon wont be spice ready.
[22:17] <smoser> xen i think is not going to happen
[22:17] <smoser> and even then
[22:17] <smoser> not something that make sense in the near term
[22:18] <smoser> as i understand it, spice is a much  more high bandwidth, low latency
[22:18] <smoser> noomachine / freenx / x2go is low bandwidth high latency
[22:18] <smoser> you wont have the former unless you were on amazon campus
[22:18] <smoser> i have to run
[22:18] <kirkland> smoser: k
[22:19] <smoser> i understand that spice is working on things to make it a better lwo bandwidth solution, though
[22:19] <smoser> i have looked at it for more than 5 minutes, but have never seen it functional.
[22:19] <smoser> ie, not much more than 5 minutes
[22:59] <kirkland> smoser: fwiw, i've filed https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-qxl/+bug/709537
[22:59] <kirkland> smoser: i talked to bryceh about it, and he said it sounded reasonable
[23:00] <kirkland> smoser: even if we won't use it for the EC2 images, i think it's a wise thing to have
[23:00] <kirkland> smoser: as people in RH environments will want to use it