[02:17] <doctormo> akgraner: Tonight was my turn to make baggetts, (last night was wife's) they came out really good too.
[02:18] <doctormo> I'm just afraid now that wife will ask for fresh bread when she comes home from work.
[02:18] <doctormo> Or worse, don an apron and have a filled cocktail glass waiting.
[02:19] <akgraner> doctormo - pgraner cooks and cleans for me :-)  treats me like a queen  but shhhh don't tell him I said that...
[02:19] <nigelb> haha
[02:19] <akgraner> I think queen is only half of the name he uses for me - but we won't go there :-P
[02:20] <doctormo> akgraner: I already clean, but I can't cook, wife needs to, it's her thing.
[02:20] <doctormo> But I get to sort, do all the laundry and buy rations. Not quite the same, but meh.
[02:21] <akgraner> awww....the first year Pete and I were married I cooked so badly he just cooked from then on...:-)
[02:21] <akgraner> muahahaha
[02:21] <doctormo> lol! You used my tactic!
[02:22] <doctormo> Actually I know how to cook, it's just I cook not on recipes but on concepts.
[02:22] <akgraner> but that was almost 20 years ago...be figured me out  - I have to cook now every once in a while
[02:23] <akgraner> doctormo, I'm working on a inkscape poster - and I am sucking at it :-(
[02:23] <akgraner> I am going to figure this out yet...
[02:24] <doctormo> akgraner: Need any help?
[02:24] <doctormo> I can guide as well as art.
[02:25] <akgraner> yes  - but I can't work on it now til after Monday
[02:25] <doctormo> akgraner: How fast is your internet connection?
[02:25] <akgraner> I can send you a pic of my drawing that I am trying to work out on inkscape and see if you have suggestions
[02:26] <akgraner> not fast at my parents won't have the fast connection back til sometime next week
[02:27] <doctormo> akgraner: We can desktop share if your internet connection is faster than 6Mb/s or so. The up needs to be 1Mb/s you see.
[02:28] <akgraner> oh ok - will you have some time next week?  I have to finish some $work for day job right now...
[02:29] <doctormo> akgraner: Hopefully, just prod me when you're ready.
[02:30] <akgraner> k - I'll send you the drawing maybe you'll have some artsy suggestions I haven't thought about
[02:31] <akgraner> I want to turn the picture into a poster and then into both bookmarks and thankyou cards to send to people once the house is finished
[02:41] <doctormo> akgraner: sounds great, would gladly help. :-)
[06:36] <nigelb> ddecator: Hey! Its been a while :)
[08:16] <dholbach> good morning
[08:17] <pleia2> good evening, dholbach!
[08:17] <dholbach> hey pleia2
[08:27] <nigelb> Morning dholbach
[08:27] <dholbach> hi nigelb
[08:28] <dholbach> kim0, are you there?
[09:02] <nigelb> pleia2: oh, you're still up!
[09:02] <nigelb> dholbach: Met a bunch of Canonical folks yesterday :) GOod fun
[09:03] <dpm> morning al
[09:03] <dpm> all
[09:04] <nigelb> Hey dpm
[09:04] <dpm> hi nigelb
[09:04] <dholbach> nigelb, nice
[09:04] <dholbach> hola dpm
[09:04] <dpm> hey dholbach
[09:06] <nigelb> erm, kim0 is blacked out? :(
[09:07] <dholbach> nigelb, that's why I asked
[09:08] <nigelb> dholbach: It just dawned on me.
[09:13] <dholbach> I just hope he's safe
[09:17] <nigelb> Yeah.
[09:26] <czajkowski> Re Egypt http://twitter.com/#!/glynmoody/status/30919408784244736
[10:06] <mvo> hi, a quick question for the planet and wordpress literates: I posted a entry about software-center to http://mvogt.wordpress.com/ but planet.ubuntu.com picks it up incompelte (no screenshot, link in heading does not point to blog entry). does anyone have a idea what might be wrong?
[10:12]  * nigelb looks
[10:12] <nigelb> mvo: ok, your wordpress feed setting is not set to full
[10:13] <mvo> nigelb: thanks, how do I fix that ? something on my side or in the planet config?
[10:13] <nigelb> mvo: its on your side
[10:13] <nigelb> login to wordpress admin
[10:13] <mvo> ok
[10:14] <nigelb> on the left you'll ahve the control panel, go to settings and click on reading
[10:14] <nigelb> the settings heading would be the last one and reading should be third under settings
[10:15] <nigelb> "For each article in a feed, show" --> make that full text
[10:16] <mvo> thanks nigelb, it appears it is already set to this
[10:16] <nigelb> mvo: ah, your feeds are by tags
[10:17] <nigelb> I think you'll fare better by category
[10:17] <nigelb> we all use category
[10:17] <nigelb> in the planet config file
[10:17] <mvo> thanks, I will fix that now
[10:18] <nigelb> mvo: you'll have to create a new category and provide the appropriate feed link
[10:19] <nigelb> mvo: you can perhaps look at mine http://justanothertriager.wordpress.com/category/ubuntu-planet/feed/?mrss=off to get an idea :)
[10:19] <mvo> what does mrss=off mean?
[10:20] <nigelb> the planet instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PlanetUbuntu ask us to do that
[10:24] <mvo> thanks a lot for your help! updated now, lets see if that fixes it
[10:25] <nigelb> :)
[10:30] <dpm> mvo, I like your blog's tagline. "I like tea and free software", that's definitely very you :)
[10:32] <mvo> dpm: haha, thanks :)
[10:50] <nigelb> mvo: It works!
[10:50] <mvo> sweet! thanks nigelb
[10:50] <nigelb> :)
[11:26] <jussi> Ooh, I just got 10 new invites to diaspora (the real one) - if anyone wants one, PM me
[11:38] <daker> hey kim0 , still alive !!
[11:39] <duanedesign> morning all
[11:46] <daker> hi duanedesign
[11:50] <nigelb> http://twitter.com/#!/SultanAlQassemi looks interesting re:Egypt situation
[12:01] <duanedesign> nigelb: cool link
[12:01] <duanedesign> or i should say interesting link
[12:02] <duanedesign> nothing 'cool' about what is going on
[12:02] <duanedesign> does kim0 still have internet?
[12:03] <daker> i don't know
[12:04] <daker> i think it's the irssi session on his server
[12:05] <daker> nigelb, note that the Tunisian revolution is copylefted, so feel free to reuse it ツ
[12:05] <duanedesign> sounds like only Coke, Nestle, and other large multi-national corporations are the only ones with internet
[12:05] <nigelb> daker: hah
[12:06] <nigelb> duanedesign: I saw the graphs of internet access.  Scary.
[12:06] <daker> VERY Scary!!
[12:06] <duanedesign> :\
[12:06] <duanedesign> brb, reboot
[13:24] <daker> nigelb, http://english.aljazeera.net/watch_now/
[13:44] <doctormo> nigelb: ping
[14:39] <jcastro> whoops
[14:41]  * JFo sings I always feel like somebody's watching me ;-)
[15:33] <jcastro> dholbach: have you done a "how to fix a bug in ubuntu" thing lately?
[15:33] <dholbach> what kind of thing?
[15:34] <jcastro> like an irc session or a screencast?
[15:35] <dholbach> no
[15:40] <popey> reminds me, i need to write my session for tomorrow
[16:36] <nigelb> doctormo: pong
[16:37] <doctormo> nigelb: panic over, how are you?
[16:37] <nigelb> doctormo: I'm good :)
[16:38] <doctormo> nigelb: India still there, is it?
[16:40] <nigelb> doctormo: oh yes.  We even had Canonical come down here ;)
[16:41] <jcastro> PICS OR IT DIDNT HAPPEN!
[16:41] <nigelb> gah, the pics are on colleagues cam :(
[16:41]  * nigelb calls
[16:43] <nigelb> gah
[16:43] <nigelb> can't get it for another 2 hours :(
[16:44] <JFo> likely story ;)
[16:44] <jcastro> heh
[16:45] <doctormo> nigelb: It didn't happen for another 2 hours then.
[16:45] <popey> \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/
[16:45] <popey> That is all.
[16:45] <popey> doctormo: on the subject of tea! I am really getting into Twinings Chai Teabags
[16:45] <popey> omety nomety nom
[16:46] <jcastro> now that I know taco bell meat is fake I think I want some
[16:46] <JFo> :D\-<
[16:46] <JFo> :D|-<
[16:46] <JFo> :D/-<
[16:46] <nigelb> Also, good thing about UDD
[16:46] <nigelb> The UDS will be at Corinthia HOtel.
[16:47] <popey> Taco bell meat is "meat"?
[16:48] <jcastro> no
[16:48] <jcastro> this week people found out it's some meat filler thing
[16:48] <jcastro> which is probably why it's so DELICIOUS
[16:48]  * JFo thinks it is tasty 'S'meat'
[16:48]  * JFo ^5's jcastro 
[16:48] <popey> I have never been to taco bell
[16:48] <popey> oh, no, I have!
[16:48] <jcastro> what?
[16:48] <popey> I florida
[16:49] <jcastro> man dude
[16:49] <jcastro> sometimes I wonder how you guys ever became an Empire
[16:49] <doctormo> popey: As much as I dislike Twinings, their Chai isn't hald bad.
[16:49] <doctormo> half*
[16:49] <jcastro> I remember the first time we took Jono to White Castle
[16:49] <jcastro> omg
[16:49] <JFo> hahaha
[16:49] <popey> I pulled out of Taco Bell onto international drive, (first time driving on the wrong side of the road) and pulled out not far enough, into oncoming traffic!
[16:49] <popey> I pulled onto the median, and a pick-up drove past me shouting "God damnned asshole"
[16:49] <nigelb> jcastro: is that how that movie came about?
[16:50] <nigelb> Jono and Jorge go to white castle :p
[16:50] <popey> I responded in my best of british "Yes, very sorry chap!"
[16:50] <jcastro> heh
[16:50] <doctormo> jcastro: Empire through owning a bunch of countries and being better at them at snobbery.
[16:50] <JFo> popey, my kingdom for some film footage of that
[16:50] <JFo> :)
[16:50] <popey> heh
[16:50] <popey> yeah, only in my mind luckily
[16:50] <JFo> I think we should recreate that
[16:50] <popey> as a cultural collaboration?
[16:51] <doctormo> A film! I demand a film!
[16:51] <JFo> popey, errr, yes
[16:51] <JFo> :)
[16:51] <popey> doctormo: I do find my self having to use two chai bags, not strong enough
[16:51] <popey> I have become a lover of Starbucks chai
[16:51] <JFo> kinky
[16:51] <popey> but if I drink that stuff all day I'll be:-
[16:51] <popey> a) Fat(er)
[16:51] <popey> b) Bankrupt
[16:52] <JFo> c) all of the above
[16:52] <popey> e) Where did d go!?
[16:52] <popey> d) Ah, there it is.
[16:52] <JFo> d) profit!?!?!
[16:52] <doctormo> popey: Oh dear! Now that's bad.
[16:52] <JFo> oh, sorry
[16:52] <doctormo> popey: I remember living in Surrey with a Guturati guy. The best chai tea evar.
[16:53] <popey> :)
[16:53] <popey> Surrey! That's dangerously close to me.
[16:53]  * popey raises the drawbridge and lowers the portcullis
[16:53] <doctormo> popey: Nah, it was in Red Hill, no where near anything.
[16:53] <popey> Oh, unlucky
[16:53] <popey> I used to work over that way in Haywards Heath
[16:53] <popey> had to get the choo choo from near home
[16:53]  * JFo readies the trebuchet
[16:54] <popey> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farnborough_North_railway_station  <_ from there
[16:54] <popey> choo choo!
[16:54] <doctormo> I dunno, Mertham is kinda quiet and the rent isn't too high. Train goes to London Victoria. Not terrible IMO.
[16:54] <popey> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:NSE_EMU_at_Farnborough_North.jpg proper trains1
[16:55] <doctormo> I always loved the train maps down there, there a metric ton of train lines.
[16:55] <doctormo> Up north, you're lucky if you can get from town A to town B without 3 busses and a mule.
[16:55] <popey> yeah, I turned into a bit of a train nerd when I travelled on them
[16:55] <popey> I would see the ID numbers on the trains as they arrive and know all kinds of very sad info about them before I got on
[16:56] <popey> but that railway line is tinged with sadness, it's where my brompton was stonlen :'(
[16:56] <popey> *stolen
[16:58] <doctormo> popey: You had an entire tow... oh you mean bike. right. the folding ones?
[16:58]  * czajkowski really needs to get to know UK areas better and stop living off maps 
[16:58] <popey> \o/ maps
[16:58] <popey> I _love_ maps
[16:58] <popey> I am beginning to sound like I have ADHD in this channel aren't I?
[16:58] <popey> I LOVE CHAI!, TRAINS ARE ACE, I LOVE MAPS!
[16:58] <popey> etc
[16:59]  * popey calms down a bit
[16:59] <Pici> yikes.
[16:59]  * czajkowski pours popey a cuppa tea
[16:59]  * JanC loves old maps
[16:59] <doctormo> popey: Don't be scared of who you really are! embrace your inner nerd!
[16:59] <Pici> I like neat graphs
[17:00] <JanC> have an original map of the "Expo 58" world exhibition in Brussels hanging on the wall above my desk  ☺
[17:01] <doctormo> although I don't think it's the 'I like trains' part that's nerdy, it's the 'I can tell you when this train was commissioned from it'd id' thing which sets popey apart.
[17:03] <jcastro> I love trains
[17:04] <popey> \o/ I think we're really making progress here group, well done!
[17:04] <popey> Same time next week?
[17:04] <nigelb> jcastro: <3 Me too
[17:11] <doctormo> nigelb: Shame openttd doesn't do network play.
[17:11] <nigelb> darn
[17:12] <popey> \o/ minecraft trains :)
[17:13]  * czajkowski does wonder about this channel at times 
[17:21] <jono> jcastro, can I hop the phone with you quickly?
[17:21] <jono> well, Skype
[17:21] <jcastro> yep, give me a tick
[17:21] <jono> cheers, pal
[17:22] <jcastro> ok all set
[17:22] <jcastro> jono: ^
[17:48] <jcastro> bah
[17:48] <jcastro> wiki syntax for attachment is ... ?
[17:49] <czajkowski> [[attachment: filename]] isn't it ?
[17:49] <jcastro> ta
[17:49] <czajkowski> jcastro: should show you at the end of the page
[17:49] <czajkowski> once you've uploaded it
[17:49] <nigelb> {{attachment:ubuntu.png}}
[17:49] <nigelb> jcastro ^^
[17:55] <jcastro> http://uds.ubuntu.com/
[17:55] <jcastro> ok I've reset the uds page for budapest, if anyone eagle eyes any errors, let me know
[17:56] <nigelb> \o/
[17:56] <AlanBell> http://uds.ubuntu.com/participate/
[17:56] <nigelb> jcastro: sigh, styles broke again
[17:56] <AlanBell> Join us in Orlando
[17:57] <jcastro> oh yarrrrgh, an image
[17:57] <AlanBell> big and inaccessible image with text on it
[17:58] <AlanBell> and the site as a whole isn't using the ubuntu font
[17:58] <AlanBell> body { font-family: "Lucida Grande", "Lucida Sans Unicode", "Lucida Sans", Verdana, Tahoma, sans-serif; }
[17:59] <AlanBell> Image fails at http://uds.ubuntu.com/participate/community/ http://uds.ubuntu.com/participate/upstreams/ http://uds.ubuntu.com/participate/vendors/
[18:00] <AlanBell> http://uds.ubuntu.com/participate/sponsorship/ has a link to http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-n/
[18:00] <AlanBell> linaro top link goes to https://wiki.linaro.org/Events/2010-10-LDS
[18:01] <AlanBell> schedule link goes to http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-n/
[18:01] <AlanBell> other than that, full of awesome \o/
[18:02] <jcastro> heh
[18:05] <jcastro> Daviey: do you happen to know if uds.u.c/schedule a redirect?
[18:06] <AlanBell> jcastro: the ubuntu font is now available as a webfont as well
[18:07] <AlanBell> http://font.ubuntu.com/web/
[18:10] <jcastro> ok got everything but the pics and the font
[18:10]  * jcastro gets on the font
[18:11] <jcastro> Ubuntu Loco Light Theme 0.2-rc by Stas Sușcov
[18:11] <jcastro> is what we're using right now
[18:11] <jcastro> do themes not autoupdate?
[18:12] <jcastro> oh nm, I found the CSS editor thing
[18:13] <jcastro> ah bummer, no write permission
[18:16] <jcastro> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-website/+bug/709395
[18:16] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 709395 in ubuntu-website "uds.ubuntu.com needs the use the Ubuntu font" [Undecided,New]
[18:16] <jcastro> can someone confirm my bug please?
[18:17] <AlanBell> done
[18:17] <nigelb> jcastro: doesn't that bug just get assigned to you? ;)
[18:17] <jcastro> no
[18:17]  * AlanBell just published http://ubuntuaccessibility.wordpress.com/2011/01/27/meet-faisal/
[18:17] <jcastro> they just give me an account on wordpress and I'm in charge of the content
[18:17] <jcastro> not the design or anything
[18:17] <jcastro> ok, time to go get tacos
[18:18] <jcastro> AlanBell: there has to be some cool CSS way we can do those images without making images right?
[18:18] <jcastro> like, a background, and then just text over it that we can edit?
[18:18] <AlanBell> yes
[18:18] <AlanBell> do the background, add the text on top
[18:19]  * jcastro will think about that as he gets tacos
[18:19] <dholbach> I'm calling it a day - have a great weekend!
[18:19] <nigelb> night dholbach
[18:19] <dholbach> bye nigelb
[18:21] <jcastro> http://adweek.blogs.com/adfreak/2011/01/taco-bell-response-to-beef-lawsuit-sarcasm.html
[18:21] <jcastro> hahah man
[18:21] <jcastro> what are the chances they put this out
[18:21] <jcastro> just as I prepare for a taco bonanza
[18:53] <cjohnston> jcastro: unity !fail :-/
[18:59] <jcastro> cjohnston: ?
[18:59] <jcastro> AlanBell: ooh, nice work on that blog post
[19:00] <cjohnston> when I have terminal open, but not maximized, and move my mouse to the top bar, the menu (file, ....) partially covers the word terminal
[19:00] <cjohnston> trying to find a bug report on it
[19:01] <jcastro> dude that's just a bug
[19:01] <cjohnston> I know
[19:01] <jcastro> "fail" would be like, it formatted your disk
[19:01] <cjohnston> but that was my first impression
[19:01] <jcastro> "unity kicked my dog"
[19:01] <cjohnston> poor dog
[19:01] <cjohnston> ll
[19:01] <cjohnston> lol
[19:01] <paultag> yeah, it kicked my dog, that's for sure
[19:01] <paultag> anytime I hear unity, I cringe
[19:02] <cjohnston> lol
[19:02] <paultag> cjohnston: not joking, man
[19:02] <cjohnston> im sure a lot of people feel that way
[19:03] <paultag> when it renders my system unsable, I'm not happy
[19:03] <cjohnston> ya.. that'd be a problem
[19:03] <jcastro> says the tiling window manager guy
[19:03] <cjohnston> so far, after about 15 minutes, I'm doing ok
[19:03] <AlanBell> thanks jcastro, I think it is a good project and I have a slightly different slant on it than other persona projects that are about
[19:03] <paultag> jcastro: I don't using a tiling window manager, dude :)
[19:03] <paultag> jcastro: have you ever used Fluxbox? ;)
[19:03] <jcastro> AlanBell: *nod*
[19:04] <doctormo> paultag! My friend! Can I ask a favour?
[19:04] <jcastro> paultag: I have transcended window manager arguments
[19:04] <jcastro> though if you think about it, if you moved the unity launcher to the right we'd be windowmaker!
[19:05] <doctormo> jcastro has transcended argument full stop.
[19:05] <paultag> doctormo: yeah, what's up
[19:05] <doctormo> paultag: Visit http://www.livestream.com/technicallyaclassroom?t=358762 and tell me if you see or hear anything
[19:05] <paultag> jcastro: dude, it broke my netbook. I upgraded to Ubuntu 10.10 UNR, and Unity made that machine chry
[19:05] <paultag> cry *
[19:05] <doctormo> I'm trying to see if I can get webcam studio and livestream to talk nicely in time for tomorrows inkscape session.
[19:05] <paultag> Mutter is a sack of junk
[19:05] <jcastro> oh dude on 10.10?
[19:06] <jcastro> yeah screw that, do unity2d dude
[19:06] <paultag> jcastro: yeah, I know it's not using Mutter anymore
[19:06] <doctormo> paultag: Why do you think it was junked for compiz?
[19:06] <paultag> doctormo: because it sucks
[19:06] <paultag> doctormo: i'm there but it's offline
[19:06] <doctormo> Ask a stupid question...
[19:06] <paultag> doctormo: now I have to sit through a 30 second ad
[19:06] <jcastro> http://askubuntu.com/questions/21686/how-do-i-install-the-unity-2d-desktop
[19:06] <doctormo> paultag: Give licestream a second,
[19:06] <jcastro> there you go bro
[19:06] <jcastro> that's the way to make 10.10 UNR rock again
[19:07] <paultag> jcastro: it's cool. I don't muchly care for it, I'll just stick to GNOME / Fluxbox
[19:07] <paultag> doctormo: kk, I'm up and waiting
[19:07] <doctormo> It was interesting, the 10.10 normal install + netbook-launcher + 3d = suck, but netbook-launcher + 2d = awesome. I guess it's a legacy package now, but I thought it was better than unity on 10.10
[19:09] <doctormo> paultag: What can you see/hear?
[19:12] <doctormo> jcastro: Can you test my livestream please? It's for user days tomorrow.
[19:12] <jcastro> sure
[19:12] <jcastro> one sec
[19:12] <paultag> doctormo: http://i.imgur.com/MIV2a.png
[19:12] <paultag> doctormo: it's ugly
[19:12] <jcastro> it says offline
[19:12] <jcastro> but works
[19:13] <doctormo> It's offline but works?
[19:13] <jcastro> I see an ad with susan sarandon now
[19:13] <jcastro> are you broadcasting?
[19:13] <doctormo> yes
[19:13] <jcastro> then no, it's not working for me
[19:14] <paultag> not here either
[19:14] <doctormo> Retrying, stand by mission control.
[19:14] <paultag> roger
[19:14] <jcastro> this is ground control to doctormo
[19:15] <JFo> lol
[19:16] <doctormo> OK it says it's recording and online
[19:16] <jcastro> there we go
[19:16] <jcastro> yep
[19:16] <paultag> Ah there we are doctormo
[19:16]  * JFo wants to play too :-(
[19:16] <jcastro> text is a bit hard to read
[19:16] <paultag> doctormo: it looks a bit shitty
[19:16] <JFo> can haz link?
[19:16] <paultag> JFo: http://www.livestream.com/technicallyaclassroom?t=358762
[19:16] <JFo> thanks paultag :)
[19:16] <jcastro> much better!
[19:17] <jcastro> yes
[19:17] <paultag> JFo: sure :)
[19:17] <paultag> doctormo: right
[19:17] <jcastro> yeah but now the text is unreadable again
[19:17] <paultag> doctormo: I see very little righ tnow
[19:18] <jcastro> too zoomed in
[19:18] <paultag> doctormo: I can't see shit
[19:19]  * JFo is having technical difficulty
[19:19] <jcastro> you sound fine
[19:19] <paultag> doctormo: we can
[19:19] <paultag> doctormo: sec, realoading
[19:19] <paultag> damn, the video keeps freezing on me
[19:20] <paultag> wonder if it's my net line
[19:20] <jcastro> it's stuck on that 640x480 bit
[19:20] <paultag> +1 jcastro
[19:20] <doctormo> The video has frozen here too, I just wanted to know if it was still going you rend
[19:20] <paultag> doctormo: We can hear you
[19:20] <paultag> doctormo: have no idea why you're typing ;)
[19:21]  * JFo sees offline now
[19:21] <JFo> d'oh
[19:21] <JFo> there it goes
[19:21] <paultag> doctormo: damn, looks like hell
[19:21] <JFo> I see my typing :-D
[19:21] <paultag> doctormo: ja :)
[19:22] <JFo> yep
[19:22] <paultag> doctormo: looks like we're back in the 50's
[19:24] <doctormo> OK guys, thanks for your help
[19:24] <paultag> roger doger
[19:24] <doctormo> I'll investigate what can be done to increase the resolution. Until then, over and out.
[19:25] <JFo> coolness
[19:25] <jcastro> cool idea though
[19:25] <jcastro> it'll be nice if you get it sorted, I've always wanted to live-desktopcast
[19:27] <jcastro> AlanBell: how you liking alfresco?
[19:27] <AlanBell> bloody great monolithic java heap of steaming
[19:27] <AlanBell> it is great jcastro :)
[19:28] <jcastro> hahaha
[19:28] <jcastro> "enterprise"
[19:28] <AlanBell> just needs better import tools
[19:28] <doctormo> JanC: You took _ages_ to leapfrog on askubuntu ;-)
[19:28] <JanC> doctormo: heh, I haven't been very active recently  ;)
[19:34] <doctormo> OK managed to convince it to do 480x270, slightly heigher than the 340x220.
[20:08] <Technoviking> jcastro: any reason to save any of the ubuntu dev release forums other than the last 2? http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=237
[20:08] <jcastro> I wouldn't think so
[20:08] <jcastro> kill them with fire!
[20:24] <jcastro> jono: where's that tweet functionality?
[20:25] <jono> jcastro, ratings and reviews :-)
[20:25] <jono> in Natty
[20:25] <jcastro> yeah
[20:25] <jcastro> I did one for shutter
[20:25] <jono> when you leave a review
[20:25] <jono> there is a check box
[20:25] <jcastro> I just can't find the tweet button
[20:25] <jcastro> hmm, maybe I missed it the first time, let me write another
[20:26] <jono> :-)
[20:27] <jcastro> oh I get it
[20:27] <jcastro> it's connected to gwibber
[20:28] <jono> yup
[20:29] <JFo> jono! ;-)
[20:29] <JFo> heh
[20:29] <jcastro> which of course, crashes
[20:33] <jono> JFo, yo!
[20:34] <JFo> hey buddy
[20:41] <JFo> dude, I just now found https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/
[20:41] <JFo> why aren't we shouting this from the rooftops?
[20:42] <JFo> :)
[20:42] <jcastro> because it's not very good. :)
[20:42] <jcastro> actually it's linked from the firefox home page
[20:42] <JFo> cool
[20:42] <JFo> I didn't even know it was there
[20:43]  * JFo is not very observant
[20:43] <AlanBell> https://help.ubuntu.com/ 10.10 to 6.06
[20:44] <jcastro> http://twitter.com/#!/castrojo/status/31090047763615745
[20:44] <jcastro> YEAH!
[20:45] <JFo> heh
[20:46]  * czajkowski tickles #ubuntu-community-team 
[20:46]  * jcastro jiggles
[20:51] <JFo> :-|
[20:51] <czajkowski> JFo: less face pulling, so not pleasing
[20:52] <czajkowski> jcastro: howdy !
[20:52] <JFo> ?
[20:52] <czajkowski> JFo: the face :-|
[20:52] <JFo> uh huh
[21:00] <jono> Technoviking, is there a wiki page that outlines what someone should do if they want to raise an issue with a forum member's conduct?
[21:01] <jono> e.g. posting slurs and nasty comments
[21:03] <czajkowski> jono: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ForumsFAQ#How do I report bad posts or bad behavior on the forums?
[21:03] <czajkowski> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ForumsGovernance
[21:03] <jono> thanks czajkowski
[21:04] <czajkowski> np
[21:50] <czajkowski> anyone hear from kim0 ?
[21:52] <jcastro> jono: did someone talk bad about severed fifth or something?
[21:53] <jono> jcastro, eh?
[21:53] <jcastro> wrt. reporting someone on the forums?
[21:53] <jcastro> oops, I left off the :)
[21:53] <jono> jcastro, lol
[21:53] <jono> no just someone who was saying that he experienced some negative comments on there
[21:53] <paultag> hey doctormo, did you hash out anything for the ubuntustudio-controls GUI?
[21:54] <jcastro> yeah people have been very negative lately
[21:54] <paultag> jcastro: people always suck
[21:56] <jcastro> jono: I was thinking of having a few sessions about this at UDS, the mailing lists are turning into hostile territory as well
[21:56] <jono> jcastro, yeah
[21:57] <czajkowski> jcastro: well oonly sounder and user
[21:57] <czajkowski> jcastro: which is a small section and doesnt I think represent the large community, lcoo contacts never gets like that
[21:58] <jcastro> true, but loco-contacts is more of a leader list, the people have more of a stake in the project
[21:58] <czajkowski> nods
[21:58] <jcastro> plus I can't remember the last time someone was like "man I can't wait to check out -devel-discuss, the quality of discussion there is SO HIGH."
[21:59] <czajkowski> -doc is one I find bad
[21:59] <jcastro> which brings me to another point
[21:59] <jcastro> we have too many lists
[22:00] <czajkowski> +1
[22:00] <czajkowski> jcastro: and yet for annoucing and planning UDS we don't have one place
[22:00] <czajkowski> :(
[22:01] <jcastro> yeah, I've always wondered why we don't have -project
[22:01] <jcastro> for "soft" like things
[22:01] <czajkowski> for annoucments?
[22:01] <doctormo> paultag: I'm waiting on ubuntu studio to decide what it is it wants.
[22:01] <czajkowski> liek Ubuntu -NEXTRELEASE
[22:01] <czajkowski> *like
[22:01] <jcastro> well, we have -devel-announce
[22:01] <czajkowski> jcastro: but not everyone wants to be on a devel mailing list
[22:01] <jcastro> nod
[22:01] <czajkowski> I know I'm usually shitless posting to that one tbh
[22:02] <czajkowski> as I know the developers are on it and while the majority are lovely
[22:02] <czajkowski> there are a few who are rather rude
[22:02] <doctormo> jcastro: How many people in this room are active on these mailing lists and in the forums?
[22:02] <doctormo> We have a core of people who protect and stand by the Code of Conduct.
[22:02] <paultag> doctormo: let's roll with my framework and get it done
[22:02] <jcastro> I am active on 2 subforums and mostly read-only on mailing lists
[22:03] <paultag> doctormo: a working beta is better segfaulting final product
[22:03] <doctormo> I just don't think we do enough to be visible, and part of that is of course that we're very busy getting things done.
[22:03] <doctormo> paultag: Got that wiki with field names?
[22:04] <paultag> doctormo: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/SettingsApp/Redux
[22:07] <daker> czajkowski, no his last tweet was yesterday
[22:07] <doctormo> paultag: I need to you to review those in the list and format them into fields. I.e. text/bool/number/enum. Just tell me what data you want out of the user and I'll organise it.
[22:07] <JanC> it's mostly only 2 or 3 people who are almost always negative on sounder
[22:07] <czajkowski> daker: ok
[22:07] <czajkowski> daker: thanks
[22:07] <paultag> doctormo: OK. I'll do that tonight -- can you whip up some logo action while that's going?
[22:08] <doctormo> paultag: Ubuntu studio already has a logo. :-/
[22:08] <paultag> doctormo: no, for the interface and such
[22:08] <czajkowski> whoo nice lot of Ubuntu community at FOSDEM next weekend https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fosdem/2011
[22:08] <czajkowski> :D
[22:08] <czajkowski> jono: can you tweet if anyone in Ubuntu community will be at FOSDEM to add their name to the wiki if they want to meet up, please.
[22:14] <doctormo> paultag: I've either made you an icon, or created kubuntu studio http://imagebin.org/134909
[22:14] <paultag> doctormo: I really like that logo, a lot, actually
[22:14] <paultag> ScottL: prod
[22:14] <paultag> ScottL: http://imagebin.org/134909  <-- doctormo's doodle
[22:15] <paultag> doctormo: I'm grooving off the speaker-esque center bit
[22:15] <paultag> I love the waves thrown off on the right
[22:15] <doctormo> paultag: You've seen the ubuntu studio icon, right?
[22:16]  * doctormo doesn't want to take credit for that.
[22:16] <paultag> doctormo: yeah, but I've never looked that deep into it -- I glaze over most details
[22:18] <jcastro> and now
[22:18] <jcastro> weekend time
[22:18] <jcastro> paultag: make sure you behave while I am gone
[22:18] <paultag> jcastro: <3
[22:19] <paultag> BBl, wine time right now. Much love!
[22:20] <AlanBell> nice
[22:20] <jcastro> wine?
[22:20] <jcastro> you don't seem like a wine person
[22:20] <AlanBell> I was going to have a hot chocolate, but now I think I will add a little something to it
[22:21] <paultag> jcastro: srsly?
[22:21] <paultag> jcastro: I'm an i-tal, dude
[22:22] <jcastro> you strike me as more of a wine /cooler/ kind of guy
[22:22] <jcastro> heh
[22:22] <jcastro> see what I did there
[22:22] <paultag> hahaha
[22:22] <paultag> heyo!
[22:23] <paultag> jcastro: you should go on tour, dude
[22:23] <doctormo> paultag: You're in italia?
[22:24] <paultag> doctormo: c'mon *tagliamonte*
[22:26] <doctormo> paultag: But you sounds American
[22:26] <paultag> doctormo: my family, dude. I was born and raised in the US
[22:26] <paultag> doctormo: http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/hs016.snc6/166600_1312299727860_1241640381_31326082_7044428_n.jpg  <-- for christ's sake
[22:26] <czajkowski> that's like saying I'm polish!
[22:26] <czajkowski> :)
[22:27] <paultag> czajkowski: no one says they are american in america -- they always identify with where their family is from
[22:27] <AlanBell> you are English!
[22:27] <paultag> AlanBell: actually, yeah -- 1 / 4
[22:27] <czajkowski> paultag: odd
[22:27] <czajkowski> AlanBell: I am not!
[22:27] <paultag> AlanBell: 1/4 english, 1/4 austrian, 1/2 italian
[22:27] <paultag>  = 1 badass
[22:27] <AlanBell> czajkowski: just following your logic
[22:27] <paultag> ohh. czajkowski
[22:27] <paultag> yeah, czajkowski is english as hell
[22:28]  * czajkowski hugs the Shamrock! 
[22:28] <jcastro> she's about as english as I am australian
[22:28] <paultag> jcastro: soooo, lots?
[22:28] <czajkowski> 31 years in Ireland and 4 months in UK my dears :)
[22:28] <jcastro> heh
[22:29] <paultag> OK, for real
[22:29] <paultag> wine time
[22:29] <paultag> love ya'll much
[22:51] <jussi> paultag: no, 1/4 english, 1/4 austrian, 1/2 italian = 1 scary paultag :D
[23:27] <jcastro> jono: jfo: I just found the coolest thing
[23:27] <jcastro> http://jtab.tardate.com/