=== bjf is now known as bjf[afk] [01:12] RAOF, bryceh hey guys [01:13] rickspencer3: Good $TIME_OF_DAY [01:14] hey dude [01:14] so, I think xorg is acting really screwy on my i965 desktop [01:14] Hm. [01:15] Since the xserver-xorg-video-intel 2.14.0 upload yesterday? [01:15] rickspencer3, this is with current natty? [01:16] hey bryceh, yeah, I updated last night after the new intel driver got in [01:17] rickspencer3, ok, tell us more [01:17] basically, it seems like it just stops painting [01:17] I can switch to a VT [01:17] if I run top, nothing is going crazy [01:17] rickspencer3, and fire off a bug report 'ubuntu-bug xorg' for tracking and so we get logs n'at [01:17] but then I can't really switchback [01:17] here's the thing though ... [01:18] I am also mucking with the menus in a program I am writing [01:18] maybe I should hold off on the bug report and see if I can make the problem occur on my netbook with the same code [01:19] rickspencer3, if you report a bug we can check it to see if there are error messages in the log files that provide some clues [01:19] It sounds like similar symptoms to the page-flip related hangs we had with Maverick. If that were the case, compiz would be in D state waiting on an ioctl. [01:19] or if you'd really prefer not to, pastebin your Xorg.0.log and dmesg [01:19] bryceh, ok, I;ll do it right now [01:20] nah, I just didn't want to spam you guys [01:20] meantime, I think the mouse button on my netbook is wearing out [01:20] like 2 weeks after the warrany expired [01:45] after reading bdrung's blog post it makes me wonder how many of our X bugs are really dying graphics cards [01:50] Some, but I'd wager not many. [01:51] I think the rate of GPU failures is reasonably low, and I don't think our stack is so good that real bugs are less common than failing hardware :) [01:56] hmm...i have a mental model for the symptoms that indicate failing ram. i don't have a model for symptoms that indicate a failing graphics card [01:58] RAOF, I dunno, I got two failed gfx cards here (dead fans), and a third that sounds like it's on its last legs [01:59] bryceh: Maybe I just don't stress my GPUs; none that I've had contact with have died. [01:59] With, perhaps, the exception of my gaming laptop which would overheat, slow down by an order of magnitude, and then reboot. :) [01:59] and just yesterday I threw away a dvi cable with a bent pin (obvious on close investigation, but sounded like one of the many "weird random color" bugs we get) [02:00] Hm. [02:00] We'll certainly have *some* bugs which are due to failing hardware... [02:01] admittedly I swap cards quite a bit so they get more physical stress than normal perhaps [02:01] Maybe I'm severely underestimating their number due to not interacting with broken hardware. [02:02] rats, kernel panic in middle of a natty upgrade. gotta love that [02:03] Oooh, ow. [02:04] came up ok [02:04] this is definitely turning into one of those cases where testing the new driver is taking *way* longer than just packaging it.... [02:04] Ah, the new ati? [02:05] yeah [02:05] Before you upload, have you updated the copy-fb patch to support both 1.9 and 1.10 ABIs? [02:06] (And not have a stupid typo in the 1.10 codepath, like my -intel upload has? ☹) [02:06] ah I wanted to ask if we needed that for radeon too [02:06] Yeah. You'll need to do basically the same as for -intel, but without the “srcn” typo :) [02:06] I split that out as a separate git commit, so it should be easy to see what to do. [02:07] (For future reference, although “srcn” looks quite a lot like “scrn” the C compiler doesn't accept them as synonyms ☺) [02:07] I can update the patch for you though, if you like. [02:08] nah I got it [02:08] bryceh, RAOF here's my bug report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/708998 [02:08] Launchpad bug 708998 in xorg "Desktop freezes intermitently" [Undecided,New] [02:08] sorry I couldn't be any clearer [02:08] I need to step away, but I can check back in a bit later [02:08] rickspencer3_, thanks [02:10] weird, apport collected a make.log.txt but no Xorg.0.log? [02:10] Yeah, that is strange. [02:11] the make.log.txt seems to be from some vbox build issue from last year [02:15] RAOF, hmm no obvious errors in the logs === asac_ is now known as asac === rickspencer3_ is now known as rickspencer3 [02:32] hey bryceh, I uploaded those files [02:32] also, looks like the xorg apport hook crashed [02:33] (I assume that's why the files didn't get uploaded) [02:42] Heh. I see you've been hit with the keyboard-config stick: “Option "xkb_model" "a4techKB21"” [02:43] RAOF, not sure what you're referring to there [02:43] I don't believe that will cause any problems, though. [02:44] I haven't seen any issues on this 'puter [02:44] my netbook thinks I care to swtich to arabic though [02:44] Your Xorg.0.log.old indicates that you've been hit with the keyboard-config upgrade bug, which set the keyboard model incorrectly and added the “af” keymap, among other things. [02:45] glad it's all still working ok [02:45] There don't appear to be any other interesting messages there. [02:46] You _may_ have successfully confused compiz, or possibly hit a damage bug. [02:46] RAOF, is it at all possible that I'm bringing down compiz with this crazy sound menu integration thing? [02:47] like I am sending bad data, and the sound menu barfs,and then so brings down unity, brings down compiz? [02:47] That's possible, yes. [02:49] seems like that shouldn't happen :/ [02:49] maybe I can make a repro case and log a bug against sound menu (if that's what is happening) [02:49] this is what fuzz testing if for ;) [02:49] Did that only happen while you were futzing with the sound menu, or is it independently reproducible? [02:50] RAOF, it's hard to say [02:50] But it doesn't happen *every* time you VT switch, right? [02:50] that's the problem with intermitent bugs [02:50] I don't know [02:50] I only switched VTs to try to see if there was a rogue process to kill or such [02:51] nah, it works fine, just tried it [02:51] Ah, yeah, that's right. The problem manifested itself before the VT switch. [02:51] * RAOF restarts to test new -evdev [02:53] RAOF, feel free to set my report to invalid or what not [02:53] gotsa run === Amaranth__ is now known as Amaranth [06:09] Good morning === tkamppeter_ is now known as tkamppeter [08:04] mvo: good morning, how are you? [08:04] mvo: you broke the CD builds.. :-( [08:04] software-center : Depends: python-piston-mini-client but it is not installable [08:05] mvo: any chance to revert the dependency for now, and wait until the MIR is approved? [08:06] * pitti hugs mvo [08:06] pitti: unfortunately not easily, I could include it in the package itself, but that is not really great [08:07] mvo: could it disable the functionality if it gets an ImportError? [08:08] hm, that might be a option, let me check [08:08] mvo: btw, thanks for the software-properties review; I'll debug the threading hang today [08:08] good morning pitti, mvo! [08:08] that already hit me with usb-creator, it seems GTK doesn't seem to like it very much to run in more than one thread [08:09] hey didrocks, how are you? [08:09] good morning didrocks [08:10] pitti: indeed, might be a bug in the code of s-c, usually I'm very careful about this (hit the gtk ui only from one thread). but that code was contributed [08:10] mvo: for some reason that worked with pygtk, perhaps that did some extra locking or so; but I'll have a look [08:10] if it's a bug in pygobject, I'd like to track it down [08:11] pitti: I'm fine thanks, having compiz crashing only for me at start (same issue than early december) isn't quite fun though :/ [08:11] didrocks: compiz is naughty today indeed, at least under unity; breaks copy&paste and focus-follows-mouse [08:11] didrocks: it didn't crash here, though [08:12] pitti: how breaks copy and paste? [08:12] didrocks: I think the FFM issue could actually be due to global menu bar (I disabled that in my classic session) [08:12] didrocks: well, neither Ctrl+C/V nor left/middle mouse work [08:12] there was no change for FFM [08:12] hum, middle mouse work there [08:12] that might not actually be a compiz issue, of course; could be unity, too [08:12] trying ctrl+C/V [08:13] didrocks: try from firefox to terminals? (that's what I tried) [08:13] ctrl+C/V is fine there too [08:13] ok trying [08:13] (I tried in gedit) [08:13] ctlr c/v still doesn't work even under classic+compiz [08:13] between terminals [08:13] but middle mouse does [08:13] pitti: who is currently doing mirs ? just you and doko? [08:14] pitti: works for me… :/ [08:14] mvo: I left the team a while a go; currently didrocks, doko, mterry, kees [08:14] so didrocks … ;) [08:14] * didrocks hides and handle his card of ETOOWORKANDBUGS :) [08:15] pitti: ok, finishing some triaging and debugging with same, then I'm back to you for copy and paste [08:16] didrocks: no worries, let's track it down later; I'm currently wrestling with 10.04.2 and some urgent emails anyway [08:16] pitti: ok :) [08:23] pitti: I assume downgrading the mini-client thing to a recommends is not enough for the cd builder? [08:23] mvo: recommends works [08:23] it'll be silently ignored then [08:24] component-mismatches will still cry (which is desired) [08:24] ok, that sounds reasonable then [08:24] I will bribe the MIR team as quickly as possible, its a really easy MIR i think [08:25] heh [08:25] mvo: danke! [08:26] danke an dich - und entschuldigung für den ärger .) [08:30] happens, no problem at all [08:30] would just like to have building CDs before a2 :) [09:20] morning [09:23] hey rodrigo_ [09:35] hey didrocks rodrigo_ [09:35] hey seb128 [09:39] chrisccoulson: good morning! [09:39] chrisccoulson: was bug 294187 deliberately targetted to natty? [09:39] Launchpad bug 294187 in firefox "Firefox Locales should install locale specific search plugins" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/294187 === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|cops [10:25] re [10:26] mvo, is ratings different from reviews in s-c? [10:28] mvo, seems reviews are buggy, I can see items with starts and a number of "ratings" [10:28] but they all say "be the first to review" [10:29] like there is nothing at the bottom of the description page [10:33] seb128: parts of that is a bug in the cache invalidation [10:33] seb128: the other part is that if you e.g. on maverick you will see that there are 5 reviews, but they could be from natty so you will not see them (as they are not for a version you can install). [10:34] seb128: that was a design decision, not sure if its final or if mpt wants to tweak it [10:34] mvo, well I'm on natty and I would assume reviews are coming from natty? [10:34] mvo, do you have any example that should show any review? [10:34] just tried abiword, glade and some others [10:34] none has a review [10:36] mvo, hm, that wasn't deliberate [10:38] mvo, maybe the reviews you see, and the average rating you see, should be for all reviews from the latest version you can install and versions before it, not for versions after it? [10:39] mvo: hey, is it me or is does the recomendations thing look like it has no space before the number and no space after the word recommendations [10:39] * fagan is testing out the reviews too btw and they are very nice [10:39] seb128: if you are on natty, that is the cache problem [10:39] mvo, yeah I'm on natty [10:39] mvo, ok [10:41] mpt: ok, thanks for this clarification, I will talk to the server guys about it [10:41] fagan: it is not only you :) but its fixed now, just uploaded a new version [10:41] mvo, sorry, I was asking you what you thought [10:41] oh ok [10:44] mpt: I think ideally we would aggregate the stats so that they represent the availalbe reviews and ratings for the user. its not easy on the server, AFAIK this is why it was changed there. there was a bug about that, let me look for it [10:49] mpt: the trouble seem to be that this is a relatively expensive operation (the stats). but yeah, stats(visible_only) is IMO the ideal solution [10:51] ok === smspillaz is now known as smspillaz|dinner === MacSlow|cops is now known as MacSlow [11:00] I wonder if there's some elegant way to weight ratings for recent versions more heavily than ratings for old versions [11:01] a good idea [11:02] mpt: give the newer version preference over the older one :) the issue is you still want ones marked as useful to surface nearer the top [11:02] davmor2, that's another way of wording it [11:02] We need a mathematician in here [11:03] mvo, what do you think of this to start with: "The average rating for a software item, as shown to someone running a particular Ubuntu release, should be the mean of the latest 50 ratings for versions of the software that are less than or equal to the latest version available for that Ubuntu release." [11:03] That way at least old ratings eventually expire [11:04] pitti - i'm not sure why bug 294187 was targetted to natty, i didn't do that [11:05] Launchpad bug 294187 in firefox "Firefox Locales should install locale specific search plugins" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/294187 [11:05] good morning / afternoon btw :) [11:07] mpt: I think we should not (yet) dive into the details but formulate a high level goal (like weight older versions lower or expire them) and then we can discuss how best to do it with the constrains we have (like that it needs to be fast to do on a db layer etc) [11:08] mpt: bug #709172 for the basic problem [11:08] Launchpad bug 709172 in rnr-server "current reviews-stats is confusing to users" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/709172 [11:08] mpt, mvo: If we work with lucid, maverick, natty, would the simplest way not be to award lucid 25%, maverick 50%, Natty 75%, and let the star rating and usefulness flags take it up the other 25%, and then when O comes out drop lucid to 0% and so on? [11:09] I added the weight as a topic now too [11:09] davmor2, not really, because increasingly there will be multiple versions for the same OS release [11:09] mvo: is there any way to edit your review after you post it? [11:10] * fagan just realised that he made a mistake in his gimp review [11:10] fagan: not yet, its a planned feature. but you can just post a new one (based on the old one) and flag the other as a mistake [11:10] mpt: Sorry I'm mixing versions with distroseries my bag [11:10] oh thats ok [11:11] * mvo is off for a bit to grab some lunch [11:13] mvo: Oh and the title part isnt spell checked [11:13] in the review === smspillaz|dinner is now known as smspillaz [11:15] fagan: *ick* what is wrong? [11:16] * mvo will fix that too after lunch [11:17] mvo: yeah ill let you get some lunch. I was just using the review title bit and it isnt spell checked no biggy [11:17] I miss spelled a word on purpose and checked [11:42] mvo, remember the keywords system we started on, for keywords that aren't mentioned in the package description? Can you remind me where the keywords are stored? === smspillaz is now known as smspillaz|dinner [12:13] good morning everyone! may I have a sponsorship for https://code.launchpad.net/~nataliabidart/ubuntu/natty/ubuntuone-control-panel/ubuntuone-control-panel-0.8.1/+merge/47757 [12:16] mpt: in the desktop file as "X-AppInstall-Keywords" [12:17] mvo, thanks. Dylan McCall was asking about it (but didn't know it exists). [12:27] fagan: hrm, hrm, it looks like gtkspell does not support gtk.Entries, so its not as trivial as I thought. could you please file a bug? looks like this needs some legwork first [12:27] sure no problem [12:29] re [12:29] mvo, do you have any bug number for that caching issue? [12:31] seb128: yes, bug #708841 [12:31] Launchpad bug 708841 in rnr-server "review stats do not update on moderation or removal of reviews" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/708841 [12:32] mvo, thanks [12:34] mvo, ok, so what you are saying is that we have no user reviews yet which went out of moderation? which is moderating those? === oubiwann_ is now known as oubiwann [12:36] seb128: the bug is that if a review goes into moderation the stats are not updated [12:36] chrisccoulson: right, seems like a wishlist thing to me; I'll downgrade [12:36] seb128: into the moderation-queue that is (that means that it becomes invisible until its moderated) [12:37] mvo, but are all comments going in the moderation queue by default before being accepted? [12:38] mvo, and who is moderating the queue? [12:38] mvo, like is there any review which is going to go out of moderation in the next weeks or will they stay there until a team is organized to do reviews? [12:39] seb128: currently we allow all comments [12:39] seb128: and then if someone flags them, they enter moderation queue [12:40] ok [12:40] mvo, so it means basically that nobody did reviews out of testing comments which went to moderation [12:40] seb128: moderation I can do now, but the webui is not great yet, once the new UI lands we can formally put together a team [12:40] so I just need to wait for real user comments to be submitted? [12:40] but with the current UI I'm not sure, its just not good [12:40] seb128: yeah, but there are some real ones [12:41] seb128: like dejadup, audacity, lives thunderbird [12:41] about 50 already [12:41] almost scary [12:41] mvo - i reviewed software center, but i didn't realise reviews weren't anonymous ;) [12:41] lol [12:41] chrisccoulson: you can flag your comment as inappropriate before I read it [12:42] chrisccoulson: better do it now ;) [12:42] lol [12:42] it's ok ;) [12:42] chrisccoulson, audacity has 0 rattings there [12:42] it's not bad, but not a very useful review ;) [12:42] seb128: a cache issue again maybe? its listed here in the stats [12:42] * mvo looks [12:42] mvo, software-center is weird [12:43] the label says "write your own review" [12:43] but there is no star or comment listed [12:43] seb128: oh, for what package? [12:43] software-center [12:43] since chrisccoulson said he reviewed this one I tried it [12:44] seb128: same here, let me debug it [12:44] mvo, thanks [12:45] oh, i can still see my own review for software-center :) === smspillaz|dinner is now known as smspillaz [12:46] libreoffice has a review [12:46] i can see that [12:47] anyone familiar with g-ir-scanner knows how to fix "Unknown namespace for identifier 'midgard_dbus'"? http://launchpadlibrarian.net/60877438/buildlog_ubuntu-natty-i386.midgard2-core_10.05.2-2_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz [12:52] seb128: haha, so the problem appears to be (with the software-center review) - Sofware Center vs Sofware Centre ;) (GB vs US spelling) [12:52] * mvo hugs chrisccoulson for his review text [12:52] oh, doh [12:52] heh :) [12:52] * chrisccoulson hugs mvo [12:53] I file a bug about that [12:55] good morning! [12:59] seb128: do you know a bit about epiphany? Can bug 575610 be fixed with a mere rebuild? [12:59] Launchpad bug 575610 in epiphany-extensions-more "epiphany-extensions-more is not installable in lucid" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/575610 [12:59] hey cyphermox, ca va? [12:59] pitti, not really no [13:00] or rather "dunno" [13:00] pitti, oui, ca va ;) [13:01] hum [13:01] mvo, http://paste.ubuntu.com/559506/ [13:01] is that known? [13:01] it keeps displaying that via apport there [13:03] mvo, when it does that I also don't get the yellow background around the review [13:03] MacSlow, hi, please revisit bug 708491 [13:03] Launchpad bug 708491 in unity "Dash and indicators invisible when compositing is set in Metacity" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/708491 [13:03] seb128: not known, let me check the code [13:03] mvo, I can get it easily like this [13:04] mvo, open s-c, select "installed software", type "glade", double click on the glade line which has a review [13:04] hum, doesn't happen every time [13:04] fta, argl... yeah... really misread that sorry [13:06] MacSlow, it seems it regressed recently (~ when dash landed), because i used to be able to switch between these two modes [13:07] seb128: thanks, I have a look [13:07] seb128: its cool, lots of reviews already [13:07] stuff like shutter [13:08] yeah, I can see those now that I use LANGUAGE=en [13:08] it's a conspiration against french I see [13:08] lol [13:08] be the first ;) [13:08] which makes me think, does the spec handle we wanting to write english reviews? [13:09] or will those be flagged as french? [13:09] it looks like there is a russion review for vlc, if someone can read russia, would be nice to know whats written there [13:09] "app_name": "Медиапроигрыватель VLC", [13:09] seb128: if you are using a french locale it will assume you write french reviews [13:09] seb128: and display you french ones [13:10] seb128: there was a bit of a debate over this at UDS, I initially thought we should display native lang, english [13:10] mvo - google translate just translates that russian review to "VLC media player" [13:10] but then, amazon does not display you english reviews for the german site and my dad would not understand it [13:10] chrisccoulson: great idea to use that, thanks [13:11] mvo, I guess having $locale and a "show english review" the same way you do for technical items would be nice [13:11] someone reviewed libirrlich!?! [13:11] seb128: yeah, good point [13:12] mvo, ok, so schedule for the day is to get popcorns and sit in front of s-c to read the reviews coming in ;-) [13:12] s/popcorns/tea/ [13:12] and YES [13:13] even unity has a review already [13:13] mvo, I get the stacktrace from before often and it's like displaying every second when it happens [13:13] the review list doesn't get its yellow rectangle when that happens [13:13] do you want a bug about that? [13:14] fagan gets a badge for reviewing so many items already [13:14] seb128: please [13:14] ;-) [13:14] mvo, ok, will open one [13:17] mvo: wrt to X-AppInstall-Keywords I've asked you about some time ago - update-software-center scans only desktop files from /usr/share/app-install/desktop, so I have to add it there, right? When I do everything works as expected. [13:20] kklimonda: if you add it to the package, it will be picked up automatically when the archive-crawler runs next time (about every week) [13:20] or every two weeks, no fixed cron job [13:21] mvo: ah, that makes more sense then modifying it directly :) [13:22] yep, it will probably become a freedesktop standard too btw [13:22] (without the x-appinstall- in front ;) [13:22] great, I can push it upstream after that :) [13:25] yep [13:25] hey mterry! thanks for your reviews and for deja-dup with a utf8 in the appname, that helped finding/fixing a encoding bug in the server [13:26] mvo, heh, awesome. At first I thought you guys had maybe added an anti-review-your-own-app feature ;) [13:29] lol [13:30] mterry: no, he just blacklisted your app, as easy as that :-) [13:30] hey mterry btw ;) [13:30] hello mterry [13:30] didrocks: blacklisted stuff that sounds french actually [13:30] is deja-dup supposed to have a review? [13:31] mvo: yeah yeah, I understand :) [13:31] seb128: it has one for me [13:31] didrocks, seb128: hi :) [13:31] seb128: but submit will give a error (also the review makes it acually) [13:31] mvo, well it doesn't here even in english [13:31] weird [13:32] like "the application is awesome… unfortunatly, it sounds french…" [13:32] seb128, I hit a bug with my English review too, it was the title of the app that was causing the bug [13:34] "But I do love it, and it saved all my data when I accidentally erased my hard drive." [13:34] how did you manage that? ;) [13:34] I'm curious to know if users will turn reviews in bug reports [13:34] bugfix is in bzr, but will probably take a little bit until its rolled out to the server though [13:34] seb128: well, "flag" :) [13:34] ;-) [13:39] chrisccoulson, ah, the review did go through it seems. I was testing 10.10 install CDs, and picked the wrong drive. :-/ === MacSlow is now known as lunch-break === lunch-break is now known as MacSlow|lunch [13:50] * bcurtiswx_ waves to room [13:51] * kenvandine waves back [13:52] hey kenvandine, bcurtiswx_ [13:52] hey didrocks [13:59] hey didrocks [14:00] hey bcurtiswx_ kenvandine [14:00] hey seb128 [14:00] hey seb128 [14:00] kenvandine, ronoc rolled a new indicator-sound tarball which fixes the build [14:01] kenvandine, if you want to do the update [14:01] seb128, great [14:01] i was going to ask him for that [14:01] seb128, but... it won't build either i bet [14:01] why? [14:01] looks like ted broke the api [14:01] indicator-sound.c:191:3: error: passing argument 3 of 'dbusmenu_client_add_type_handler' from incompatible pointer type [14:01] /usr/include/libdbusmenu-0.4/libdbusmenu-glib/client.h:141:22: note: expected 'DbusmenuClientTypeHandler' but argument is of type 'gboolean (*)(struct DbusmenuMenuitem *, struct DbusmenuMenuitem *, struct DbusmenuClient *)' [14:01] make[4]: *** [libsoundmenu_la-indicator-sound.lo] Error 1 [14:02] right, that's why it failed to build, seems ronoc updated the indicator-sound api use [14:02] well I pointed him to the build log [14:02] oh... ok [14:02] seb128, last night it had failed to build because of timestamps [14:02] at least i thought [14:02] kenvandine, isn't the lib using a .symbols? [14:02] no... we really need to change that [14:02] in fact [14:02] how come neither of you did notice the api break? [14:02] i will do that today [14:02] thanks [14:02] i looked at the headers that changed [14:02] it looked fine [14:03] i thought [14:03] kenvandine: hey! I wanted to let you know that Ubuntu One will be in the messaging menu since we will be reporting user-oriented messages (we talked about this with Neil in Dallas). So no need to hard code us in the me menu :-) [14:03] well reading the indicator-sound debdiff not sure it' using public apis [14:03] (hello all!) [14:03] those are not prefixing with the lib scheming [14:03] hey nessita [14:03] hi seb128, how are you? [14:03] I'm fine thanks, how are you? [14:04] nessita, when you are ready for me to remove it from the me menu, file a bug please and assign it to me [14:04] I'm looking forward to the weekend! I need to do some stuff away from the computer [14:04] kenvandine: if you (or someone else) could sponsor https://code.launchpad.net/~nataliabidart/ubuntu/natty/ubuntuone-control-panel/ubuntuone-control-panel-0.8.1/+merge/47757, is done! [14:05] nessita, oh, away from the computer? ;-) [14:05] seb128, ugh... the new tarball has the timestamps in the future again [14:06] kenvandine, how much in the future? [14:06] seb128: yes, I need that. My wrists are starting to hurt a bit... [14:06] seb128, this is why the build had failed yesterday... the buildds don't seem to be happy with that [14:06] 18554.174733228s [14:06] seb128: just a quick question, the bug about the surface_mask_cache - that happend relatively quickly after startup? [14:06] i love how specific that is [14:06] seb128: I think its done, but it appears to be a race [14:07] kenvandine, hum, enough to still be an issue [14:07] seb128: and only triggerable quickly after statup of s-c [14:07] seb128, i guess he is still having trouble with his clock... we couldn't set it in dallas [14:07] which was very weird [14:07] mvo, well, I ran it, searching for glade and double clicked on it [14:07] mvo, so yeah, less than 10 seconds [14:07] seb128, yesterday's built for me in pbuilder but failed on the buildds [14:07] kenvandine, well if it build locally upload [14:08] kenvandine, we will retry on the buildds in some hours when it will be over that timestamps [14:08] i would rather maybe get the tarball recreated :) [14:08] kenvandine, ronoc is travelling to the office, he should be back online rsn [14:09] kenvandine, you got tedg to complain meanwhile if you want ;-) [14:09] hey tedg [14:09] seb128: ok, should be fixed in trunk now [14:09] mvo, ok, so no need to open a bug? [14:09] seb128: no [14:09] seb128, Hmm, not sure I like that introduction to the channel :) [14:09] mvo, great, thanks [14:09] yw [14:09] tedg, howdy, how are you ;-) [14:09]