[08:07] <skiwithpete> ola
[19:38] <skiwithpete> Hey
[20:23] <rhpot1991> !ask | skiwithpete
[20:23] <Zinn> skiwithpete: Please don't ask if anyone is around or if it is alright to ask a question.  Many people check back periodically and may answer your question when they see it.  IRC is not normally an instant fix so check back often for an answer.
[21:57] <tom3p> i have an antenna and a converter which i think is ATSC to NTSC ( the boxes that were 40$ a few years ago, when to gov changed the signals) .
[21:58] <tom3p>  I want to use MythBuntu, what inexpensive hardware will get me TV and FM radio?
[21:58] <tom3p>  I have a rage128 with antenna in, but i bet its NTSC
[21:58] <tom3p> i've been all day looking at the web about this, and just discovered the ATSC vs NTSC thing.
[21:59] <tom3p> very confused, sorry
[22:05] <rhpot1991> tom3p: well the switchover was to enable your old tv to work with the new antenna
[22:06] <rhpot1991> so new antennas will be ASTC
[22:06] <rhpot1991> sorry ATSC
[22:06] <rhpot1991> what I would recommend would be getting a tuner that will work with your antenna, and forget the converter
[22:06] <rhpot1991> something like the HD Homerun
[22:07] <rhpot1991> http://mythtv.org/wiki/Silicondust_HDHomeRun
[22:07] <Zinn> [mythtv.org] Silicondust HDHomeRun - MythTV
[22:08] <tom3p> ok, looking that up now, will it attach to an analog tv? i was hoping to just use svga lcd monitor
[22:13] <rhpot1991> tom3p: well you'd hook the tuner up to your mythtv box, and then you'd go out to the tv from your video card
[22:13] <rhpot1991> to give you an idea of hardware: http://www.baablogic.net/drupal/node/13
[22:13] <Zinn> [www.baablogic.net] My MythTV Setup | www.baablogic.net
[22:13] <rhpot1991> thats my setup, which is most likely overkill for you
[22:16] <tom3p> wow, well you certainly have a system there, meaning parts that are integrated an working
[22:17] <tom3p> do you have a low budget setup suggestion?
[22:17] <tom3p> i'll scrap whats needed, seems i have a pile of ancient boxes & cards
[22:23] <uW> rhpot1991: animal!
[22:23] <uW> rhpot1991: but i want that setup..lol
[22:24] <rhpot1991> tom3p: well it really depends what your needs are, HD or SD playback?
[22:29] <tom3p> haha I have to go lookup HD and SD, i think HD is Hidef but the counterpart is South Dakota to me :)
[22:30] <rhpot1991> ya high definition or standard definition
[22:30] <rhpot1991> uW: feel free to copy, but you are on your own for buying it :)
[22:31] <tom3p> ok, what i want is to watch tv ( my antenna system with ATSC converter has over 24 stations here in Chicago)
[22:31] <tom3p> and listen to FM radio
[22:31] <uW> rhpot1991: ohhhh...damn..almost
[22:31] <Zinn> uW: Please watch your language.
[22:32] <rhpot1991> tom3p: FM radio may be a losing battle at this point
[22:32] <rhpot1991> HD or SD over your antenna?
[22:32] <rhpot1991> errr is your TV HD or SD?
[22:32] <uW> rhpot1991: have u tried hulu videos or any other flash sites..
[22:33] <rhpot1991> uW: once long ago I did the hulu linux player
[22:33] <uW> rhpot1991: thanks!..i think ive just found my new frontend..
[22:34] <rhpot1991> uW: I'm not sure hulu would run well on the ion boxes
[22:34] <rhpot1991> I only ever ran it on my backend/frontend and it was sluggish there, I haven't tried since it was first released either
[22:34] <tom3p> I get stations that say they are HD and the pic is better ( all over then antenna thru AccessHD DTA-1080D Digital Converter Box ) to magnavox TV
[22:35] <tom3p> sorry, ^^^  for rhpot1991
[22:35] <rhpot1991> uW: you could ask on the mailing list what people are doing for that, I'd venture most people aren't running it on ions and are waiting for better linux flash support for the broadcom crystal HD cards
[22:36] <rhpot1991> !mailing%
[22:36] <Zinn> The MythTV Users mailing list is located at: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/
[22:36] <rhpot1991> uW: ^
[22:36] <rhpot1991> tom3p: ok so its converting those down to SD most likely
[22:36] <rhpot1991> tom3p: well I gotta run but I'll give you a few options you can research first
[22:36] <tom3p> rhpot1991, the same stations are available SD and HD nad  can view both
[22:36] <tom3p> thx
[22:37] <rhpot1991> 1. find a cheap used hauppauge pvr-150 card (aren't made anymore, check ebay and such).  You can use this with your converter box to capture tv
[22:37] <rhpot1991> 2. get the HDHR, I think newegg has refurbs for under $80
[22:38] <rhpot1991> 2 is future proof, can do HD right from your antenna, so you can use that if you get a HD TV ever
[22:38] <rhpot1991> that would skip your converter box as well
[22:38] <rhpot1991> then you will need to look at what kind of PC you have around, if it isn't powerful enough to do the video rendering on its own you will want to get a vdpau capable video card to offload that work
[22:38] <rhpot1991> !vdpau
[22:38] <Zinn> http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/VDPAU
[22:38] <rhpot1991> and make sure it can hook up to your tv
[22:39] <rhpot1991> then add some hard drives and you should be good to start
[22:39] <tom3p> ok, thanks
[22:39] <rhpot1991> tom3p: feel free to look around at things, I'll be awol all weekend but maybe others can answer you here, if not yell for me next week and I'll help you out some more
[22:40] <rhpot1991> and you can always hit that mailing list I showed uW, lots of helpful people on there
[22:40] <qwebirc36691> My Mythbuntu 9.10 live CD boots but not the 10.10. I burned 2 copies and checked the MD5sum. Suggestions for next thing to check/do?
[22:40] <rhpot1991> and #mythtv-users as well
[22:40] <rhpot1991> good luck tom3p
[22:42] <tom3p> ok, lots to read :) thx
[22:42] <tom3p> i think im shooting myself in the foot keeping this tank of a crt tv
[22:45] <skiwithpete> ok, everything works - except it doesn't
[22:45] <skiwithpete> here's the situation
[22:46] <skiwithpete> I've installed the mythtv-backend and myth-web
[22:46] <skiwithpete> I've configured mythtv-backend - it found the tv-card
[22:47] <skiwithpete> I scanned for channels - it found a bunch. I found an XMLTV listing and configured that to give MythTV a complete listing in the backend
[22:48] <skiwithpete> then I configured the recording outputs to the Videos directory of home
[22:48] <skiwithpete> Went on to Mythweb - selected my show to record.
[22:49] <skiwithpete> And - it didn't record.
[22:49] <skiwithpete> It lists it as a size of 'B' which I assume means 0bytes
[22:50] <skiwithpete> I even have a show right now meant to be recording...  it says "in progress" and its size is still "B"
[22:50] <skiwithpete> what now?
[22:53] <skiwithpete> I'm on 10.04 - I'm using an HDhomerun
[22:53] <skiwithpete> when I click on the recording for direct download it says: http://192.168.0.101//mythweb/pl/stream/1007/1296252000
[22:54] <skiwithpete> no it doesn't: it says 1007_20110129110000.mpg does not exist in any recognized storage group directories for this host.
[23:01] <uW> rhpot1991: no for sure..thanks!
[23:06] <skiwithpete> more hints: As my HDhomerun is on the network, I can usually see the heavy traffic created by it on the lights of the modem - however, during scheduled recordings, there is no indication of traffic on either device
[23:09] <rhpot1991> !logs | skiwithpete
[23:09] <Zinn> skiwithpete: MythTV logs are stored in /var/log/mythtv/   You can use mythbuntu-log-grabber from the Applications menu to automatically post the most relevant logs to our pastebin.
[23:10] <rhpot1991> check your backend logs
[23:10] <rhpot1991> sounds like you don't have the HDHR configured correctly
[23:11] <skiwithpete> dammit - I've just set the recordings to go back to the original location (/var/lib/mythtv/recordings) and it appears to now be recording
[23:15] <qwebirc36691> For future searchers, this was helpful http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1625985
[23:15] <Zinn> [ubuntuforums.org] [ubuntu] Ubuntu 10.10 live cd problems - Ubuntu Forums