[09:51] <ara> pitti, hallo!
[09:52] <pitti> hey ara, wie gehts?
[09:52] <ara> pitti, gut, danke :)
[09:52] <ara> pitti, one question about 10.04.2 images
[09:52] <ara> pitti, are they already building from -updates?
[09:53] <pitti> ara: no, still -proposed; it would be good to get some testing with those, to be able to verify eglibc
[09:54] <pitti> ara: I poked hard at -proposed to get as much verified as possible
[09:54]  * pitti looks at http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/pending-sru.html
[09:54] <pitti> casper, consolekit, dovecot, eglibc, grub2, samba, upstart
[09:55] <pitti> those are the ones that we need to verify still
[09:55] <ara> pitti, :(
[09:55] <pitti> doing some testing on the current images would allow us to move casper, eglibc, grub2, and upstart to -update
[09:55] <ara> pitti, we need to start testing full cert for 10.04.2 as soon as possible
[09:55] <pitti> s
[09:55] <pitti> ara: I thought you could do that with the current ones?
[09:56] <pitti> above 4 packages affect new installs as well, so if they work for them, they would be safe
[09:57] <ara> pitti, we would prefer to do cert against -updates, as we need to make sure that we are not testing stuff that won't be in the final CDs
[09:57] <pitti> chicken-egg problem hten
[09:57] <ara> yes
[09:57] <pitti> ara: well, we don't need a full cert run for those
[09:57] <pitti> just some test installs on any hardware
[09:57] <pitti> these aren't very hardware specific
[09:58] <ara> pitti, yes, but we agreed with skaet that we would run full cert against 10.04.2 on all the hw that was certified for 10.04
[09:58] <pitti> right
[09:58] <pitti> and we should
[09:58] <ara> pitti, I will try to find people to verify those 4
[09:59] <pitti> ara: that'd be great
[10:03] <ara> pitti, would it be possible to build the CDs from -updates once debian-installer is verified?
[10:04] <ara> we would run out of time if we can't start today
[10:04] <pitti> yes, definitively; once we know that the current CDs with -proposed work, we'll move base-files and d-i to -updates
[10:04] <pitti> ara: as for certification, the kernel is in -updates and is frozen now
[10:04] <pitti> ara: so with the current set of proposed packages I don't think that it'd hurt too much to do cert on those
[10:05] <pitti> I already killed all packages which won't make it to -updates in the next days
[10:05] <ara> pitti, OK, good, so if we try a installation of the current CDs, would that work?
[10:05] <pitti> they are meant to work, yes
[10:06] <ara> so you are not building from -updates until all those 6 are verified?
[10:06] <cjwatson> pitti: d-i has an explicit bug to verify as well as the regular updates
[10:07] <cjwatson> (DVDs should support installation using the maverick kernel)
[10:07] <cjwatson> so that does need actual testing
[10:07] <pitti> right, but that must be done using the -proposed builds
[10:07] <pitti> otherwise, chicken/egg
[10:07] <cjwatson> yes
[10:08] <cjwatson> I just mean it needs to be added to your list of packages from pending-sru that need verification
[10:13] <pitti> ara: I think we can switch over earlier, but I'd like to at least get d-i and eglibc into -updates (former requires testing proposed CDs, latter might affect certification)
[10:13] <pitti> ara: the rest can follow later, I think
[10:14] <cjwatson> I'd rather not switch until everything on the CDs has been verified
[10:15] <pitti> then we should do cert on the -proposed ones
[10:16] <pitti> I need to run out for ~ 2 hours for some errands
[10:17] <ara> pitti, see you later!, thanks!
[13:39] <apw> cjwatson, presumably a2 freeze is tuesday as normal ?
[13:40] <cjwatson> yeah, afaik
[21:16] <jdstrand> fyi, all main NBS should now either have a bug, is actively being worked on or is waiting on powerpc
[21:16] <jdstrand> s# or # and/or #
[21:49] <jdstrand> re NBS> excepting the kernel of course (previously discussed)
[22:34] <jdstrand> aha
[22:35] <jdstrand> libgdata7 can be removed... for some reason the report said e-d-s needs it, but e-d-s built with libgdata11 on all archs
[22:35] <jdstrand> (removed now)