[00:06] <hggdh> folks, quick Q -- what would you like to be tested on Hardy/Dapper/etc re. server?
[00:06] <SpamapS> hggdh: upgrades to lucid :)
[00:06] <hggdh> SpamapS: now that's unfair ;-)
[00:07]  * hggdh carefully agrees, though
[00:07] <SpamapS> You talking about SRU stuff or just in general?
[00:10] <twb> I think what I want most is for you to not break them
[00:14] <hallyn> Brdavs: yeah, the good news is natty should fix those
[00:22] <hggdh> SpamapS: SRU, both server packages and kernel
[00:26] <Brdavs> hallyn: hahaha...
[00:27] <Brdavs> hallyn: natty, orphan, prancing etc... They might as well be replaced by freebsd by then.
[00:28] <Brdavs> Jails - i hear - work.
[00:29] <Brdavs> Anyway... take care, buys...
[00:29] <Brdavs> guys I mean
[00:29] <Brdavs> bye!
[01:08] <RichW> Please can someone help me with my IPv6 Networking problem, I have a thread at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1676715 but nobody has replied and I have provided a detailed explanation.
[01:09] <RichW> I am really stuck.
[01:46] <Bilge> My server just rebooted twice unexpectedly
[01:46] <Bilge> In the syslog I see
[02:00] <ascheel> question about Ubuntu server 10.10.  Fresh installation, it's only Ubuntu Server meaning it's only booting to a CLI anyhow, but the video is not displaying.  It worked just fine during the entire installation of server, but the video is not working at all right now.  Anybody know what I can try to modify to get it to recognize this video adapter/
[02:01] <ascheel> Related, the screen blacks out also during part of the Ubuntu Desktop installation.  it displays the initial splash screen, you can see it flicker like it's changing video modes to the next step, but then VGA signal is lost.
[02:01] <sushi_> Amigos. Is this an ideal sources.list for Ubuntu LTS server http://www.usefuljaja.com/assets/2007/4/19/sources.list.txt
[02:02] <sushi_> Or should I just leave the sources.list to what I got be default.
[02:02] <ascheel> dapper isn't LTS anymore
[02:02] <ascheel> 10.04 is LTS
[02:02] <niles> sushi_: leave it alone
[02:02] <sushi_> ascheel: Thanks. This dude consfused me http://www.usefuljaja.com/2007/4/ubuntu-setup-page-2
[02:02] <niles> it shoule be fine
[02:02] <sushi_> niles: Yeah. IT's fine already. Just wanted second opinion
[02:03] <niles> kk
[02:17] <niles> postinst probally didnt start with #!/bin/sh
[02:20] <niles> dpkg can be a real pain sometimes, it always screws up my repository
[03:29] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: hmm
[03:29] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: i'm getting: PowerNap will take the following action in [6] seconds: [/usr/sbin/powernap]
[03:29] <kirkland> To cancel this operation, press any key in any terminal
[03:29] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: but it's never taking the action (powersave)
[04:07] <ascheel> I've got a working install of server 10.10 running off of a CF card so I can use all 4 SATA ports as an array using adm.  Obviously it's a bit slow.  To speed it up, I want to move directories that get written to the most moved off to the array.  The largest part of that is apt-get.  Where does aptitude download the .deb files prior to dpkg when using apt-get?
[04:17] <shauno> ascheel: /var/cache/apt/
[04:28] <ascheel> shauno thank you very much
[04:34] <ehnde> how can i identify which network card is eth0, eth1, eth2?
[04:34] <ehnde> i have my nics plugged into a patch panel
[04:34] <ehnde> i want to label the ports on the patch panel
[04:35] <ehnde> i've found no correlating information between lspci and ifconfig
[04:37] <twister004> hi guys... im writing a script to copy a folder to a location,  zip the  folder and then move it to some other location.. can i write these commands in sequence and will they work without any issue?... im doing this on my ubuntu-server 8.04
[04:40] <twister004> basically, I want the copy command to complete... and only then should the compression start.. and then the move
[04:59] <shauno> twister004: the usual way to do that is with '&&'.  chain each command together eg copy /that/file here && gzip file && mv file.gz /somewhereelse/.
[05:00] <shauno> if any step fails, the chain breaks and the next step(s) don't run.
[05:00] <twb> Or set -e
[05:00] <shauno> (if failure is okay, you can use ; instead)
[05:00] <twb> See also #bash
[05:05] <twister004> shauno.. gr8!
[05:05] <twister004> ill use &&
[05:05] <twister004> shauno.. do u suggest i use gzip or bzip2?
[05:09] <shauno> I've no real preference between them really.  as long as I know bzip2 is going to be available at the destination too.
[05:15] <SpamapS> twister004: gzip is faster, bzip2 is more tolerant of corruption.
[05:15] <SpamapS> and achieves a bit higher compression ratios on certain types of data (like source code :)
[05:15]  * SpamapS would love to resurrect his multi-threaded bzip2 compressor project.. :-P
[05:18] <fakhir> hello. ubuntu server 10.10. i have "@reboot /root/firewall.sh > /dev/null 2>&1" in crontab. the script works fine but does not run at boot.
[05:20] <gobbe> if you want run script in boot crontab is not correct place, you place your script to init
[05:23] <fakhir> gobbe, ok thanks
[05:39] <jetole> Hey guys. Does anyone know how I can do a automatic do-release-upgrade without being prompted to answer any questions?
[07:24] <twister004> hi guys... I'm "tar'ring a linux directory.. but the tar file is 0KB is size
[07:24] <twister004> not sure what's going on
[07:25] <twister004> im checking the size as the tar command is being executed.. the tar file size doesn't increase.. it's 0KB
[07:25] <twister004> please advise here
[07:26] <twister004> the command im running is " tar -cf folder_`date "+%Y-%m-%d_%H-%M"`.tar /mnt/images"
[07:29] <reisi> has anyone ever had luck turning a kubuntu-desktop install into "headless" (by removing kubuntu-desktop metapackage)?
[07:40]  * twb encourages date --rfc-3339=seconds
[07:40] <twb> twister004: is /mnt/images a symlink?
[07:41] <KristianDK> Hello! Is there any way to use an interval in cron jobs? Like 8-21, or do i have to make a commalist like 8,9,10 .. 21?
[07:41] <twb> KristianDK: you can say "every Nth" -- */10
[07:42] <twb> For something like "9 AM to 5PM", I usually see scripts that run every hour, and the script will start by checking the current time and exiting if it's outside that window
[07:42] <KristianDK> twb, thats what i do now, but there is absolutely no reason to run it, while our company is closed ;)
[07:42] <twb> Shrug.
[07:42] <KristianDK> but i guess i could use your solution as well, scriptside
[07:50] <shauno> KristianDK: 8-21 should work just fine
[07:50] <KristianDK> shauno, great, thanks :)
[10:10] <lau> chmod issue on usb stick ext4 ,
[10:10] <lau> /dev/sdb1 on /mnt/flash type ext4 (rw)
[10:10] <lau> -rw-r--r-- 1 lau lau 32505856 2011-01-28 10:30 disk-crypt.img
[10:10] <lau> chmod u+x disk-crypt.img
[10:10] <lau> ls -lsa returns the same
[10:11] <lau> -rw-r--r-- 1 lau lau 32505856 2011-01-28 10:30 disk-crypt.img
[10:13] <lau> fixed !
[10:38] <iclebyte> is there a release date for the next LTS edition?
[10:39] <iclebyte> 2012
[10:42] <twb> iclebyte: just so
[10:42] <twb> iclebyte: Ubuntu release schedule is every six months, of which every fourth release is an LTS
[10:43] <iclebyte> cool thanks.
[10:43] <iclebyte> just trying to assertain if it's worth jumping from 8.04 to 10.04
[10:43] <iclebyte> i'm leaning towards yes
[10:47] <twb> NEVER upgrade unless you NEED a feature/bugfix/security patch that you KNOW the new version will provide.
[11:06] <iclebyte> has any one experienced trouble with software RAID 1 on 10.04?
[11:08] <Ken> Hi all. I have two locations, one with three computers another with seven. The location with seven has a "file sever*" for sharing files between all of the Windows XP machines. (*It's actually just a Windows XP with a shared network drive. Don't ask.) I'm trying to encourage the migration to Linux Server and one of the winning points would be if we could set it up so we have remote access to the same folders over the in
[11:08] <iclebyte> it just wont boot. gives me the grub error no such disk. if i run the rescue cd, mount md1 then reboot it starts up fine. as soon as i power off the machine and do a cold boot it fails. I suspect it's something to do with LVM's uid's changing so I updated /etc/fstab to reflect /dev/md1 and /dev/md0 instead of the UID's however I still get the same issue. should I update grub.conf to point to /dev/md0 and /dev/md1 also?
[11:08] <iclebyte> Ken, you can use a VPN to achieve what you want.
[11:09] <iclebyte> look at openvpn
[11:09] <Ken> iclebyte: Thanks for the confirmation. I really appreciate the help.
[11:11] <iclebyte> most welcome.
[11:12] <iclebyte> Ken, i've also found cost to be a pretty good one to convince management to move to linux for servers
[11:16] <Ken> Iclebyte: I've expressed that it's free and the reasons why but they were very much "Oh, but free stuff must be insecure"
[11:16] <Ken> I've had that debate with them too. I think the winner would be to show them it in action.
[11:23] <Ken> Thanks again for the assistance.
[12:37] <aliverius> i am doing a frish install on a disk with raid and gtp
[12:37] <aliverius> with the boot bios partition
[12:38] <aliverius> it goes fine
[12:38] <aliverius> i enter the os for the 1st time and i do, what else, an update with apt
[12:38] <aliverius> the system wont boot afterwards
[12:39] <aliverius> it reboot indefinitely
[12:40] <aliverius> i have reinstalled the OS many times and it always happens
[12:49] <iclebyte> aliverius, 10.04?
[13:30] <aliverius> iclebyte: yes
[13:31] <aliverius> 10.04.1
[13:31] <aliverius> is it a known bug?
[13:34] <iclebyte> aliverius, I'm having exactly the same issue
[13:34] <iclebyte> out of interest did you previously have a raid1 software array on those disks?
[13:34] <aliverius> yes
[13:34] <iclebyte> welcome to the club
[13:35] <iclebyte> what i thought strange was that the installer didnt sync the disks
[13:35] <aliverius> hehe, if it is a global problem there is more hope for a solution
[13:35] <aliverius> i am not experienced with raid 1
[13:35] <iclebyte> i know this because under gentoo when i built my array it took over 2 hours to sync 1tb
[13:35] <aliverius> it makes sense
[13:35] <iclebyte> i've been working on this all morning with no avail
[13:35] <iclebyte> what im trying right now is destroying everything on the disks then building it from scratch
[13:36] <iclebyte> i'm about half way through..
[13:41] <JenniferB2> hi folks.. I have installed a minimum version of ubuntu server ... and I would like to now install a minimum version of the gnome desktop on it.. without all the extra crap .. any tips on how I can do this ?
[13:42] <iclebyte> JenniferB2, do you actually want the gnome-desktop or just the ability to run gnome apps?
[13:43] <JenniferB2> i want the gnome user interface.. it's not going to be a server, but is my laptop
[13:44] <JenniferB2> the ubuntu desktop edition includes lots of software and an altered gnome desktop
[13:45] <JenniferB2> I want the core gnome without all that fluff.. a minimal version..
[14:07] <RoAkSoAx> morning all
[14:15] <SpamapS> RoAkSoAx: once again I am up too early. g'morning
[14:16] <zul> SpamapS: hah
[14:20] <izinucs> I think I just backed up my mysql database using mysqldump -u USER -pPASS --single-transaction -Q --databases foo bar .. looked like it went smoothly.. but where does it put the file(s)?  or am I missreading the command and at the end have two database names.. the secondary being the backup with path location?
[14:22] <SpamapS> izinucs: it spits the backup out to stdout as SQL and DDL
[14:24] <izinucs> SpamapS: I'm pretty novice with mysql.. what I would like to to is backup my joomla database on my home server and reuse it on some commercial space I bought.  Can you help with a link/method?
[14:25] <SpamapS> izinucs: so when you run that mysqldump, you need to add on the end   > backupfile.sql
[14:26] <SpamapS> izinucs: then just transfer that backup file to your server and import it with   mysql -uUSER -pPASS < backupfile.sql
[14:26] <izinucs> SpamapS: seems almost too easy :) .. thanks
[14:31] <diabolicalone> Question about the lamp package installed. I just reinstalled the package via Tasksel, I had been using the lamp package via tasksel that i installed long ago. However this time upon install extensions such as Curl, were not included I do understand they are different versions but why are they not included this time around, Secondly where do you got the curl extensions and the missing others
[14:31] <gobbe> what is curl extension?
[14:32] <diabolicalone> I mean it is not an older version that i just installed, Secondly it is not deperciated, and not marked unsafe
[14:32] <diabolicalone> http://us2.php.net/manual/en/intro.curl.php
[14:33] <RoAkSoAx> SpamapS: morning!! I just hope you sleeping well my friend >P
[14:33] <diabolicalone> prior to this came all rolled into one now such functions as header redirects and curl and such other things fail
[14:34] <RoAkSoAx> zul: howdy!! So I'm still waiting for upstream to release new cluster-agents. The fixes for bashisms plus lots of other fixes to those RA's are in the new upstream. so it is either wait a bit more, or patch the files completely, ideas?
[14:34] <zul> wait a bit more
[14:35] <SpamapS> izinucs: you should note that if you are using MyISAM tables, and your database was being written to in any way while you run mysqldump, the backup may not be complete
[14:36] <pmatulis> does anyone have an opinion on the 'proxmox ve' kvm/libvirt environment?
[14:36] <RoAkSoAx> zul: ok :)
[14:37] <zul> RoAkSoAx: i rather have more bugs fixed than one little bashim but we know about
[14:37] <izinucs> SpamapS: how do I tell what type of tables are being used?
[14:40] <RoAkSoAx> zul: indeed!
[14:42] <SpamapS> izinucs: you can look in INFORMATION_SCHEMA or just 'show create table X'
[14:44] <SpamapS> izinucs: select engine,count(*) from INFORMATION_SCHEMA.TABLES group by engine;
[14:44]  * SpamapS just noticed that one of his wordpresses is on MyISAM.. doh
[14:45] <SpamapS> no wonder its so fast.. hopefully it never crashes. :)
[14:46] <izinucs> SpamapS: thanks again for the help.
[14:50] <hallyn> SpamapS: can you comment in bug 708172 about the proposed upstream solution?
[14:51] <hallyn> SpamapS: kirkland: I'll send an email to ubuntu-server+devel, but want to look up what upstream is doing in more detail first.
[14:51] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: howdy!! What do you mean powernap does not take the action?
[14:53] <diabolicalone> what is the phpmyadmin "Like" package for PGSql ? I forget the name of it :(
[14:54] <diabolicalone> phppgmyadmin right ?
[14:54] <SpamapS> hallyn: I was going to bring it up today when we're all here.. I agree w/ kirkland that this should go to ubuntu-devel and ubuntu-server (and probably upstart-devel)
[14:55] <hallyn> SpamapS: ok, do you want to send the intro email?
[14:56] <hallyn> SpamapS: what was it you said upstream was proposing as a solution?
[14:56] <hallyn> i just want to read up a bit
[14:58] <SpamapS> hallyn: upstream is actively working on providing override files
[14:59] <SpamapS> hallyn: so /etc/init/libvirt.override
[14:59] <SpamapS> or libvirt-bin
[14:59] <SpamapS> hallyn: these would never be conffiles
[15:00] <SpamapS> hallyn: so if /etc/init/libvirt-bin.conf had   env LIBVIRT_BIN_ARGS="-d" .. and the ovveride had env LIBVIRT_BIN_ARGS="-d --foo" .. the args are overriden to be -d --foo
[15:00] <zul> Daviey: ping
 i'm about half way through..
[15:00] <aliverius> do you seem to have some success? ^^
[15:01] <hallyn> SpamapS: and how do those files avoid the overhead of a stat?
[15:02] <SpamapS> hallyn: they are loaded all at once at boot time
[15:02] <SpamapS> hallyn: ureadahead is told to pre-cache /etc/init
[15:02] <SpamapS> hallyn: or maybe not actually.. but the point is to avoid *random* IO
[15:03] <hallyn> got it
[15:04]  * SpamapS afk
[15:06] <Daviey> zul, o/
[15:06] <zul> Daviey: so im looking at the axis2c bug and apparently axis2c builds how does that mess with eucalyptus?
[15:06] <Daviey> ooo
[15:06] <Daviey> it now builds?
[15:06] <Daviey> awesome
[15:07] <Daviey> that is fine for euca
[15:07] <Daviey> it was working before, just wouldn't rebuild
[15:08] <zul> so upload dokos version?
[15:14] <zul> Daviey SpamapS: on another note im going to prune the source in the cobbler bzr tree
[15:15] <RoAkSoAx> So does anyone have any idea of what am I doing wrong with the packaging that when I'm purging a package it shows: "dpkg: warning: while removing powernap-common, directory '/usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/powernap' not empty so not removed." (I'm using python-central)
[15:17] <SpamapS> zul: prune it back to the setup.py dist level?
[15:18] <zul> SpamapS: yep
[15:18] <zul> SpamapS: so it would acutally build in a nightly
[15:23] <izinucs> SpamapS: one more question if you're around.. when using 'mysql -uUSER -pPASS < backupfile.sql'  how do I designate a specific database?
[15:40] <apw> kirkland, about ?
[15:40] <kirkland> apw: yo
[15:40] <apw> about this long filenamy thing for ecryptfs
[15:41] <apw> it seems to me that the changes are going to be pretty big, and
[15:41] <apw> if upstream don't expedite them we are unlikely to have working support
[15:41] <apw> for natty ...
[15:41] <apw> now as this is not a regression, but it does cause issues
[15:41] <apw> we might want to be in a position to disable it by default in new installs
[15:42] <apw> i was thinking of bringing this up for discussion at the release meeting ... what do you think
[15:42] <kirkland> apw: hmm
[15:42] <apw> my position is approximatly that we should prepare for the possibility that we want to turn it off
[15:42] <apw> and decide at A3
[15:43] <kirkland> apw: so what do you need from upstream?  commits of jjohansen's stuff to the ecryptfs branch?
[15:43] <kirkland> apw: once the changes are agreed upon?
[15:43] <apw> that would pre-supposed that his stuff was a fully featured solution and its not even that yet
[15:43] <apw> so even if its perfect in say 3 weeks time, thats very close to the wire
[15:44] <kirkland> apw: yeah, no kidding
[15:44] <kirkland> apw: so i mean, worst case is that we keep chugging as we are, dropping errno 36
[15:44] <kirkland> apw: right?
[15:44] <apw> (as i understand it we cna only have one long name pointing at a file in this solution currently etc)
[15:44] <jjohansen> no
[15:44] <apw> right ... so the question is are we ok with the status quo, or should we disable it, if jjohansen's patches arn't ready
[15:45] <apw> hey jjohansen you're with ius
[15:45] <jjohansen> just sat down
[15:45] <apw> whats your feeling on whether they will be production ready by A3 ?
[15:45] <jjohansen> I think there is a good chance
[15:45] <Error404NotFound> I have 3 webservers which need a directory to be synced across each other. What would be the best solution here?Host it on an nfs server and share it from there?
[15:45] <kirkland> apw: if his patches aren't ready, then they just don't make natty, and we keep chugging with long file name failurs
[15:45] <apw> ok so i am just trying to work out if there is anything needed if that isn't true
[15:46] <apw> ie there are 3 outcomes working support/status quo/turn off
[15:46] <apw> and if 1 is not available do we continue with 2 or recommend 3
[15:46] <apw> kirkland, so you vote 2 i take it, i  am abivalent i guess 2 is easier
[15:47] <apw> jjohansen, any reaction to your patches from upstream?
[15:47] <kirkland> apw: i've haven't seen the code so i don't know how easy it would be to "turn off"
[15:48] <kirkland> apw: i think i understood jjohansen to be working on an option where those could be turned off at mount time
[15:48] <kirkland> apw: which would be great
[15:48] <apw> kirkland, i thought it was a mount option or something
[15:48] <jjohansen> apw: not yet, yes mount time option
[15:48] <apw> jjohansen, ok so for 3) we need a patch for that as well ... as well as installer changes
[15:49] <apw> so unless someone is pushing for 3) i am saying nothing :)
[15:50] <Fidelix> Please help! My server name resolution is REEEEALLY slow, like 15 seconds! What can I do to fix this?
[15:52] <kirkland> apw: i'm not pushing for 3
[15:52] <kirkland> apw: but i'm not against 3 either
[15:53] <apw> kirkland, yeah i think i'll wait for guidance from release before worrying about that
[15:53] <RoAkSoAx> SpamapS: btw.. IIRC, this kind of warnings are lintian related due to upstart jobs right? "W: powernap: script-in-etc-init.d-not-registered-via-update-rc.d /etc/init.d/powernap"
[15:54] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: hmm, what version of lintian are you running?
[15:54] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: i just fixed that
[15:55] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: maverick :)
[15:55] <kirkland> 50 lashes with a wet noodle
[15:55] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: hehe I was gonna upgrade yesterday but SpamapS convinced me not to >P
[15:56] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: btw.. what's the issue you have with powernap not taking the action?? I tested it this morning from archive's in a natty laptop and no issues whatsoever
[15:56] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: i don't know yet
[15:57] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: ok, this is what it should show when in powersave mode: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/559541/
[15:59] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: hmm, well, i'm not seeing my cpu's go offline
[16:01] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: hmmm does tail -f /var/log/pm-powersave.log show's any errors after performing powersave action?
[16:02] <zul> Daviey: so if you are ok with it il upload the new axis2c today
[16:03] <zul> Daviey: so after this release meeting you will never hear about it again ;)
[16:04] <shubbar> how can i test printing from ssh? it seems the default printer is to pdf.
[16:08] <zul> kirkland: cobbler just has some new power features that im uploading today
[16:14] <kirkland> zul: okay
[16:20] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: roaksoax@shift:~$ tail -f /var/log/powernap.err
[16:20] <RoAkSoAx> exec: 60: /usr/bin/pm-powersave: not found
[16:22] <Error404NotFound> I have 3 webservers which need a directory to be synced across each other. What would be the best solution here? Host it on an nfs server and share it?
[16:22] <zul> SpamapS: have you ever used func?
[16:23] <SpamapS> zul: please baby, I invented the func
[16:23]  * SpamapS wants the func
[16:23] <SpamapS> gotta have that func
[16:23] <SpamapS> zul: no what is it?
[16:24] <zul> fedora unified network controller
[16:24] <maswan> Error404NotFound: Either that, or rsync
[16:24] <oCean> func is ok
[16:25] <Error404NotFound> maswan: hmmmm...
[16:29] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: it's /usr/sbin/pm-powersave
[16:30] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: but yet
[16:30] <kirkland> exec: 60: /usr/bin/pm-powersave: not found
[16:30] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: yeah! Fixed in the branch already :)
[16:30] <RoAkSoAx> s/branch/trunk
[16:30] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: k, i'll test, pull, upload
[16:31] <geekbri> is there an apt-get of adding a repository as an apt-get source, but have it disabled by default and then specifying on command line when i want it used?  IE simliar to yums --enablerepo=repo
[16:45] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: i think we need a config option to disable the wall message
[16:47] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: sure
[16:47] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: i'm running powernap on my laptop now, with absent=30, grace=5
[16:47] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: and i'll just let it sleep and wake up as much as it wants
[16:47] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: but i don't want a wall message every time
[16:49] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: I'll add an option "WARN" default to "y" which will enable/disable wall messages
[16:49] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: cool
[16:49] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: I guess that in the future we can add other warning types such as email the administrator or etc etc
[17:01] <smoser> Daviey, kirkland around ?
[17:01] <smoser> can one of you please take a look at my debconf config file: http://pastebin.com/xYWHTAe7
[17:15] <geekbri> if im installing sun's java instead of openjdk, it seems to want to install a milliion other things i have no need for (such as x11-common)  is there a package within partners that will just install the java enviroment and not allt his extra junk?
[17:15] <kirkland> smoser: yo
[17:16] <smoser> http://pastebin.com/xYWHTAe7
[17:16] <kirkland> smoser: looking now
[17:16] <smoser> ah.
[17:16] <smoser> forgot i'd typed already
[17:16] <bcessa> hi there, I'm having problems getting UTF8 characters on my server, I check using: echo $LANG and I get an empty line, in another server where it do works I get this: en_US.UTF-8, any ideas on how/where to configure this on the first server? :O
[17:18] <EvilPhoenix> maybe this: dpkg-reconfigure locales
[17:18] <EvilPhoenix> bcessa:  ^
[17:19] <EvilPhoenix> for the record though, i've never had taht problem on ubuntu servers
[17:19] <kirkland> smoser: okay, i've digested it
[17:19] <EvilPhoenix> cept for an openvz image for a VPS
[17:19] <kirkland> smoser: what's your question(s)?
[17:19] <bcessa> I'm using in fact a virtual server with openvz
[17:20] <smoser> does it look sane ?
[17:20] <smoser> or is it absolutely wrong to try wget/curl in config there.
[17:20] <kirkland> smoser: well, that part is a little strange
[17:20] <kirkland> smoser: but i get what you're doing
[17:21] <kirkland> smoser: having sane timeouts is pretty essential
[17:21] <bcessa> this may be obvious but I'm guessing a reboot is required after the reconfigure right, I just run it without any problems
[17:21] <smoser> ok. then i'm going with that.
[17:21] <smoser> thanks for review
[17:26] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: done! WARN option added
[17:26] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: sweet ;-)
[17:26] <kirkland> smoser: sure thing man
[17:26] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: i'll pull and test in a few minutes
[17:27] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: cool :)
[17:34] <bcessa> solved, the /etc/default/locale file was missing, thnx a ton
[17:59]  * RoAkSoAx off to lunch
[18:20] <Fidelix> Please help! My server name resolution is REEEEALLY slow, like 15 seconds! What can I do to fix this?
[18:25] <evilsushi> anyone using cacti and snmpv3? I am having trouble getting the user generated
[18:25] <evilsushi>  snmpwalk -v 3 -n '' -l authPriv -u user -A passw0rd localhost IF-MIB::ifName
[18:25] <evilsushi> snmpwalk: USM generic error
[18:29] <phsi> I need to call a script via upstart when the _first_ HDD finished fsck/mounting.
[18:30] <phsi> Is there a trigger or something? mountall is pretty late
[18:40] <genii-around> phsi: Perhaps filesystem
[18:41] <phsi> genii-around: Tried that, seems to be the same as mountall?
[18:42] <genii-around> hmm. No other idea offahnd then
[18:42] <SpamapS> argh.. I hate updating ssl certs
[18:44] <genii-around> phsi: I'm not sure if plymouth still runs up to end of fsck
[18:48] <JanC> phsi: you might be able to use the "mounted" event for that
[18:48] <JanC> see mounted(7)
[18:50] <SpamapS> phsi: curious, whats the use case here?
[19:04] <phsi> Thanks, that looks pretty good JanC
[19:05] <phsi> SpamapS: Speeding up boot on a machine that can't use ureadahead. I call preload on started cryptdisks-enabled for now.
[19:06] <phsi> SpamapS: /home/ is on LUKS but thhe rest isn't, so waiting for mountall is silly.
[19:06] <SpamapS> phsi: interesting
[19:07] <phsi> Yeah it did _nothing_ while waiting for the correct passphrase.
[19:07] <phsi> Since almost everything waits for mountall apparently.
[19:07] <phsi> Which makes sense :p
[19:08] <MTecknology> can I force logrotate to run?
[19:08] <MTecknology> dumb question.. better question.. how?
[19:09] <phsi> MTecknology: logrotate -f -v /etc/logrotate.d/
[19:09] <MTecknology> thanks :)
[19:14] <RoAkSoAx> SpamapS: zul any ideas:
[19:14] <RoAkSoAx> sudo cobbler check
[19:14] <RoAkSoAx> httpd does not appear to be running and proxying cobbler
[19:15] <zul> sudo a2enmod proxy_http
[19:16] <RoAkSoAx> zul: oh lol was enabling just proxy
[19:26] <SpamapS> RoAkSoAx: that one has gotten me too
[19:26] <zul> SpamapS: ill fix it soon
[19:29] <zul> SpamapS: in theory we can just run it in the postinst
[19:30] <Roasted> hey there guys
[19:30] <Roasted> anybody set up a freeradius server before?
[19:33] <bencer> Roasted: have a look at the radius module of Zentyal, maybe helps http://doc.zentyal.org/en/radius.html
[19:34] <Roasted> bencer, never heard of zentyal. What is it? A distro?
[19:34] <bencer> Roasted: a web based configuration tool which runs on top of ubuntu server
[19:35] <Roasted> bencer, I see. I see something here regarding a subscription though. Is this application free?
[19:35] <bencer> is gpl
[19:35] <bencer> packages in universe are a bit old, just add the ppa and install it
[19:35] <Roasted> bencer, nice. Is its only purpose to be a config tool for freeradius or does it have other uses?
[19:35] <bencer> https://launchpad.net/~zentyal
[19:36] <bencer> you can configure many many things
[19:36] <Roasted> bencer, is this gizmo kind of like ebox?
[19:36] <bencer> zentyal is the new name of ebox
[19:36] <Roasted> lol. no kidding??
[19:36] <bencer> was renamed on september
[19:36] <bencer> sure
[19:36] <bencer> :)
[19:36] <Roasted> I love ebox.
[19:36] <Roasted> bencer, last question. you specified "ubuntu server" . it can run on ubuntu, right?
[19:37] <Roasted> cause I'm running the desktop edition in this setup
[19:37] <bencer> sure
[19:37] <Roasted> bencer, thank you for your time.
[19:37] <bencer> installer is based on server flavour installer, but that's it
[19:37] <bencer> no problem, enjoy
[19:39] <Roasted> bencer, ehh bit of confusion here.
[19:39] <Roasted> zentyal is coming down as an ISO...
[19:40] <RoAkSoAx> zul: are you guys working in cobbler only or also in koan?
[19:40] <zul> RoAkSoAx: cobbler mostly
[19:40] <bencer> you can download the installer, or install from ppa: http://trac.zentyal.org/wiki/Document/Documentation/InstallationGuide
[19:40] <RoAkSoAx> zul: cause just found couple bugs in koan
[19:40] <RoAkSoAx> zul: related to modules that do not exist in ubuntu
[19:41] <zul> RoAkSoAx: sure file them away
[19:41] <RoAkSoAx> zul: one is yum >P
[19:41] <zul> RoAkSoAx: gah
[19:42] <RoAkSoAx> zul: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/559669/
[19:42] <SpamapS> zul: I don't want to enable the proxy module by default
[19:42] <SpamapS> zul: I think we could add a reminder in the cobbler check..
[19:42] <SpamapS> zul: proxy is dangerous ;)
[19:43] <zul> SpamapS: why is it dangerous?
[19:43] <zul> RoAkSoAx: yeah koan is still very rh specific
[19:43] <SpamapS> zul: without checking their configuration, users may accidentally expose their network to abuse w/ proxy
[19:44] <Tophat> Ive setup exim4 to use gmail to send messages from my server for alerts in Opsview-- any ideas on how to test it to make sure it is able to send an email?
[19:44] <SpamapS> Tophat: mail someaddress@somewhere.com
[19:44] <SpamapS> Tophat: then check /var/log/mail.log
[19:45] <zul> SpamapS: so something like "httpd does not appear to be running and proxying cobbler...did you enable proxy_http"  ?
[19:46] <SpamapS> zul: "right.. and a clear set of instructions in README.Debian
[19:46] <RoAkSoAx> has anyone been able to netbook a KVM
[19:46] <RoAkSoAx> ?
[19:46] <zul> SpamapS: sounds reasonable to me
[19:47] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: around?
[19:49] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: yes
[19:49] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: what up? :)
[19:50] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: skype?
[19:50] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland:
[19:50] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: sure
[19:53] <Tophat> thank you spamaps
[19:59] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland:
[19:59] <RoAkSoAx> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  9 2011-01-28 08:38 usb-Primax_Electronics_Dynex_Wireless_Optical_Mouse-event-mouse -> ../event5
[19:59] <RoAkSoAx> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  9 2011-01-28 08:38 usb-Primax_Electronics_Dynex_Wireless_Optical_Mouse-mouse -> ../mouse0
[20:02] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/559677/
[20:13] <genii-around> That bug would be unfortunate if it was on a remote box
[20:20] <Tophat> how can i add a user to mail ?
[20:20] <Tophat> Cannot open mailbox /var/mail/nagios: Permission denied
[20:24] <Angryfurby> question i am trying to configure sendmail on ubuntu 10.10 and i am getting a reject on relay
[20:30] <JFo> Angryfurby, I'd say that was more of a statement :)
[20:31] <Angryfurby> this is true n00d  of me
[20:31] <gobbe> !sendmail
[20:31] <gobbe> there's nice tutorial, wait
[20:32] <gobbe> https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/email-services.html
[20:34] <Angryfurby> thxs
[20:35] <Tophat> i have opsview running, and root can use mail, but the nagios user gets a permission denied error.  there is no /var/mail/nagios ..how can i add the user to mail?
[20:36] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: yeah /dev/input/mice tracks every single mouse connected... I just wished there was one work keyboards...
[20:36] <Tophat> using exim4 if that makes a difference
[20:37] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: sweet
[20:37] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: that should be enabled, then
[20:39] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: what can be done for keyboards, is use a keyboard = y, that will attempt to find a keyboard in /dev/input/by-id by searching for a kdb or keyboard regex... though that doesn't ensure that all devices create symlinks with kdb or keyboard names
[20:41] <genii-around> Tophat: I'd probably instead send it to root with   nagios: root                 in /etc/aliases
[20:41] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: hmm, okay
[20:42] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: okay, i'm going to shut down, pull my battery, and see if and how much powernap is saving on my laptop
[20:43] <Tophat> genii-around thanks, will this work if its the nagios user thats sending the email?
[20:44] <genii-around> Tophat: I'm not sure what the parent process is there
[20:44] <genii-around> ( I don't use nagios )
[20:44] <Tophat> lucky you :P
[20:57] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland, Another option is to restrict the InputMonitor for keyboard/mouse only then... and the config will default to "mouse = y" and "keyboard = y" (the latter will attempt to detect keyboard automatically)
[21:24] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: oh, another thing ...
[21:24] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: i think we need a timestamp in front of "PowerNap will take the following action in [6] seconds: [/usr/sbin/powernap]"
[21:25] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: so that if you miss this message in real time, you know when it *was* delivered ;-)
[21:30] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: ok ;)... btw what do you think about making the InputMonitor only for mouse/keyboard as explained above?
[21:35] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: i think that sounds better
[21:36] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: btw.. doesn't your logging show date/time like mine?? 2011-01-28_15:33:52 WARNING  PowerNap will take the following action in [5] seconds: [/usr/sbin/powernap]
[21:36] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: i meant in the warn message
[21:37] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: oh ok lol!! >P
[21:37] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: ;-)
[21:37] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: the logging looks great
[21:38] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: yeah!! everything works very neatly!!
[21:38] <wizardslovak> what would be cons to use dns server in my private server?
[21:38] <wizardslovak> i mean pros hehe
[21:41] <RoyK> http://lol.is/?skoda=10602
[21:42] <wizardslovak> RoyK, hahahahah
[21:44] <patdk-lap> wizardslovak,  what kind of dns server?
[21:45] <wizardslovak> patdk-lap, BIND? well i am just curious what would be beneficiares of it
[21:47] <patdk-lap> a dns server? or a dns recursor?
[21:48] <wizardslovak> server
[21:48] <RoyK> patdk-lap: most dns servers can recurse
[21:49] <patdk-lap> well,I'mjust asking :)
[21:49] <patdk-lap> what he wants to use it for
[21:49] <RoyK> wizardslovak: for a dns server, bind is the most used software on the net - it's a little hard to get used to, but it works well
[21:49] <zul> SpamapS: ping
[21:49] <SpamapS> zul: pong sup?
[21:49] <SpamapS> zul: note, have to go in about 10 min
[21:50] <zul> SpamapS: heh im already gone
[21:50] <zul> but 5.3.5 is the only changelog entry the CVE
[21:50] <zul> ?
[21:50] <SpamapS> hrm.. maybe not sure
[21:50] <SpamapS> I TOTALLY forgot that we already had 5.3.4
[21:51] <zul> because if its just a CVE then we basically have 5.3.5
[21:51] <SpamapS> zul: yeah. I think so. :-P
[21:51] <SpamapS> zul: well damn now I feel silly. ;)
[21:51]  * SpamapS got all excited to triage a bug today
[21:51] <zul> :P
[21:51] <zul> yes i noticed
[21:51] <SpamapS> ok well its still nice to have :)
[21:52] <zul> yes well ill let mdeslaur worry about it then ;)
[21:52] <SpamapS> zul: have a nice weekend.. :)
[21:53]  * SpamapS disappears too
[22:19] <GatorAlli> What is the best way to recover overwritten data, I accidentally overwrote some scripts a couple of minutes ago. Please help :(
[22:24] <guntbert> GatorAlli: pulll them from your backup :-)
[22:25] <GatorAlli> Is the backup provided with the service?
[22:25] <GatorAlli> or the OS?
[22:26] <guntbert> GatorAlli: what service?
[22:26] <GatorAlli> singlehop
[22:27] <guntbert> !crosspost | GatorAlli
[22:40] <iclebyte> i've got ssh key based login running from one machine to a server no problem. for some reason the same process wont let me login from the actual host which i want to connect to
[22:41] <iclebyte> i.e. ssh root@localhost
[22:41] <iclebyte> i've enabled root login in /etc/ssh/sshd_conf
[22:42] <guntbert> iclebyte: did you put the pub key into /root/.ssh/authorized_keys?
[22:42] <iclebyte> yup. say the server is machineA - I can get to it from machine B no problems, but when I try to connect from machine A to machine A it fails
[22:43] <iclebyte> ask's me for a password everytime...
[22:43] <iclebyte> i've added the public key from the convirture user to roots authorized_keys
[22:47] <fluvvell> iclebyte: using ssh-copy-id is often better
[22:47] <pmatulis> iclebyte: check your logs
[22:48] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: I don't think we should enable by default any InputMonitor given that not everybody will have a USB keyboard/mouse connected
[22:51] <iclebyte> pmatulis, don't see anything unusual
[22:54] <iclebyte> using ssh root@localhost -v helped
[22:54] <iclebyte> thanks chaps.
[22:55] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: hmm
[22:57] <hallyn> SpamapS: the neat thing about bzr is you coudl just branch my trivial tree, make your trivial fixes, and merge your own :)
[22:58] <hallyn> I sometimes feel that by sticking too much to the 'classic' review model, we really slow down quality fixes
[22:59] <binaryhat> im reading https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM/Networking#bridgednetworking but i dont have /etc/vmbuilder/libvirt/libvirtxml.tmpl  on 10.10
[23:03] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: can't we detect that
[23:10] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: everything is possible >P but let me think first how can I do that without breaking the simplicity of loading the config file >P
[23:12] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: ack
[23:14] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: ok so it would be something like: In config, left keyboard/mouse = y, however, if regex for mouse/kbd in /dev/input/by-id exists, then create monitors, otherwise don't
[23:14] <RoAkSoAx> s/left/leave
[23:14] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: sounds complex
[23:43] <shaggy2> hello I need help with bind9 I have my dns server running fine, everything works correctly, only problem is, I need to change the time it take to use a newly created subdomain/domain
[23:43] <shaggy2> how do I do that?
[23:59] <tallis_> hi to all