=== q_a_z_steve|afk is now known as q_a_z_steve [02:53] <`DT`> any particular reason that a fresh install of 9.10 would work fine prior to a reboot and be unable to long in after? [02:54] <`DT`> i get the login screen, login, splash screen, flash black, see the busy cursor for the mouse, more flashing to black, splash screen back to login screen [02:55] <`DT`> i can however login to xterm with no problem but have no network access [03:37] Where are Xubuntu's wallpapers located? === Deet is now known as `DT`` === `DT`` is now known as `Dt` === `Dt` is now known as `DT` [04:57] anybody know how to change the mouse speed for a laptop touchpad? [09:50] Anyone have any idea why my cycle-windows doesnt work? It is, as far as i can see only binded to alt+tab, but doesnt work. It works on the other hand when i bind it to super+tab [09:52] maybe you have something else bound to alt-tab? [09:53] I dont think so, not that i can see [10:07] J_DawG: use xev in terminal to check that your keyboard map has alt mapped right [10:13] I get: FocusOut event, serial 35, synthetic NO, window 0x4c00001 and FocusIn event, serial 35, synthetic NO, window 0x4c00001, and KeymapNotify event, serial 35, synthetic NO, window 0x0, when i press Alt (after i wrote xev in terminal) [10:18] it should mention something about keysym [10:21] KeyPress event, serial 27, synthetic NO, window 0x1600001, [10:21] root 0xb3, subw 0x0, time 12274627, (438,443), root:(441,446), [10:21] state 0x10, keycode 64 (keysym 0xffe9, Alt_L), same_screen YES, [10:21] something like ^ J_DawG [11:39] Hello! please do you know any application that allows me to customize the panels on my desktop (xubuntu 10.10). The current default panels are not customizable a lot. [11:46] ok thanks i found it [11:47] cairo-dock-core is what i was looking for [11:47] by the way is this the only xubuntu help channel? [12:51] how do I use on screen keyboard XFCE, xubuntu? [12:51] install and start and use [12:54] run onboard [12:57] kyosp: how do i do that from the terminal? [12:59] type "onboard" [12:59] and press enter [13:21] hello [13:22] could someone please tell me how to make xubuntu not start with x and be command line only till i start x? [13:23] !nox [13:23] To start your system in text-only mode append 'text' (without the quotes) to the kernel line in the grub menu. You can access the grub menu by pressing Esc (Grub legacy) or Shift (Grub2) during boot. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Text%20Mode [13:23] thanks [13:23] welcome [13:25] will xubuntu work on ancient mmx technology [13:27] you mean MMX 166MHZ? [13:27] ok so im remotely connecting to my ubuntu machine, is there a config file i can edit to make it start without X? there used to be a grub conf file but i dont know how to edit this new setup [13:27] yes [13:28] i cant do the shift or esc to get the grub menu [13:29] NativeAngels:how many memory? [13:29] i know its really old but this is the spec Toshiba Satellite Pro 480CDT Notebook (233-MHz Pentium MMX, 64 MB RAM, 4 GB hard drive) [13:30] ive tried slackware,puppy,bsd [13:30] and dsl [13:30] its just a project to see what i can get working [13:30] try lubuntu [13:30] I tried in the virtualbox, it can only run the text mode only. [13:31] i tried but for some reason it dont like kernal 2.6 [13:32] I can imagine xubuntu would struggle with only 64MB of RAM [13:32] and a pcmcia wireless card [13:32] text based stuff is ok [13:33] dont know about ubuntu server [13:33] there's been some pentium3 stuff removed from the kernel lately so a mmx chip might be too old for the newer kernels [13:33] what about older versions of xubuntu ? [13:33] ubuntu server is more or less ubuntu desktop without X mainly and mostly server apps + server kernel [13:34] does that make it any lighter [13:34] older xubuntu versions may leave you out of support, notably when talking about 2.4.x series kernels [13:34] it would for sure yes, but usability-wise for a linux beginner, no [13:34] dsl was ok [13:35] dsl uses 2.4 kernels iirc [13:35] bsd is a nightmare [13:35] freebsd? [13:35] i tried open,free and netbsd [13:36] thing is it dosnt have eithernet port [13:36] I'd stick with dsl for a comp that old [13:36] well afaik freebsd, the same is pretty much as ubuntu server, ncurses based installer and then after all the installation is done it'll leave you with a shell prompt. I just noticed you've tinkered with slackware as well. ubuntu-server will be more or less the same :) [13:37] slackware was ok [13:37] basically im just seing what lite distros work on really old kit [13:38] you need to find a compatible kernel and work from there [13:39] gone through quite a few cds in the process lol [13:39] heh [13:39] it's a fun but time consuming hobby [13:40] i have a stack of old towers to fix and parts etc [13:42] does any one using xfce 4.8? [13:43] kyosp: archlinux users are having some issues with it, it's not quite ready yet [15:44] Hello! Please the "paste" feature is completely disabled in my XUbuntu 10 system. Even in administrative mode. Any ideas please? [15:45] "paste" feature? [15:45] what is that? [15:45] Maybe describe what you are doing, what do you expect to happen and what happens. [15:47] yes sure! am not able to copy and paste throughout files or anything. [15:47] am able to copy but the paste is always disabled [15:47] even in the root mode [15:47] do you have write access to where you are trying to paste? [15:48] is that only for a specific disk or directory, or is it anywhere? [15:48] if i am the administrator i must be able to paste anywhere is it? [15:48] yes i think so [15:48] no [15:48] even admin can't write to read-only devices, for example [15:48] can you create new files? [15:49] or directories [15:50] yes am able to create files and the paste feature was working from couple of days. I am the only user on the system. [15:50] am able to delete files as well [18:06] Xubuntu spanish?? [18:10] as in speaking here or using spanish in xubuntu? [18:10] speaking spanish [18:10] !spanish [18:10] En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter. [18:10] The #ubuntu-es can help with Xubuntu too [19:26] hi everyone howzit [19:27] i had joined this channel a few months ago to ask about the shutdown issue with systems which had older bios [19:27] it seems that there is only workarounds for shutting down older systems running xubuntu [19:28] or perhaps workaround isn't the right word [19:29] charlie-tca: congrats, btw [19:29] if you're running an older system you hit the shutdown button in xubuntu but still have to physically press the power button once the system is halted [19:29] the thing is that if you logout of xubuntu, then click the shutdown button from xfce, the system will completely halt and power off on its own [19:30] so my question is why does the xfce shutdown command succeed where the xubuntu shutdown does not? [19:30] um, it doesn't [19:30] That should be the login screen with the button? [19:30] correct [19:30] That would be GDM, not Xfce [19:30] from the login screen [19:30] i see [19:30] the xfce button is in the panel in the desktop [19:30] ah [19:31] and, I see your point, but I don't know the answer [19:31] i have it backwards then -- i've been referring to that one as the xubuntu [19:31] anyway [19:31] it manages to completely unmount and halt everything [19:31] I wish I could tell you. It should not work any different, unless there is something in the gui that is blocking the shutdown [19:32] from what i can see in the forums and elsewhere there are a lot of people saying the gui doesn't allow the complete shutdown [19:32] At the GDM screen (login), you have less of the X server running, maybe that is what is blocking things [19:32] what version? [19:33] 10.10 [19:34] Is there a bug report? [19:34] could LTS be better with older HW? [19:35] depends on the hardware [19:35] i have not seen a report [19:35] some hardware needs the latest kernel modules, some needs the stuff that went obsolete [19:35] i've seen the same issue come up for other versions [19:35] they all have bios older than 2000...(?) [19:36] hm, things seldom get fixed that aren't reported [19:36] lol i can follow that logic [19:36] Have they tried updating the bios itself? [19:36] i would be happy to submit whatever [19:36] I know that fixed it for a lot of users [19:36] no actually [19:36] ok that's on today's agenda [19:37] Many board companies updated the bios after y2k [20:16] before i have to shut down thanks a lot folks for lending me an ear [20:16] i'd hate to submit a duplicate ticket but I think this issue hasn't been reported - and xubuntu is very popular for some of these machines (which might be older than god) so i [20:17] will do that later if these suggestions don't work out [20:17] thanks again [20:20] by all means, file the bug. We will mark it if it is a duplicate [22:00] !requirements [22:00] Hardware requirements to install, boot and comfortably use Xubuntu are listed at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingXubuntu [22:01] Hey! it's not on there. I am looking for something like this: "The Recommended Minimum System Requirements, here, should allow even an inexperienced user to easily install a usable system with enough room to be comfortable. A good "rule of thumb" is that machines that could run XP, Vista, Windows 7 or x86 OS X will almost always be a lot faster with Ubuntu. Simply try Ubuntu CD as a Live CD first to check the hardware works." [22:03] you mean, like the page you download from has ? see http://xubuntu.org/get [22:04] or maybe you didn't read enough - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements#Lightweight%20GUI%20alternative%20(Xubuntu) [22:05] or maybe that statement doesn't need repeating on other pages === bazhang_ is now known as bazhang