[02:53] <`DT`> any particular reason that a fresh install of 9.10 would work fine prior to a reboot and be unable to long in after?
[02:54] <`DT`> i get the login screen, login, splash screen, flash black, see the busy cursor for the mouse, more flashing to black, splash screen back to login screen
[02:55] <`DT`> i can however login to xterm with no problem but have no network access
[03:37] <Snakkah> Where are Xubuntu's wallpapers located?
[04:57] <superglados> anybody know how to change the mouse speed for a laptop touchpad?
[09:50] <J_DawG> Anyone have any idea why my cycle-windows doesnt work? It is, as far as i can see only binded to alt+tab, but doesnt work. It works on the other hand when i bind it to super+tab
[09:52] <TheSheep> maybe you have something else bound to alt-tab?
[09:53] <J_DawG> I dont think so, not that i can see
[10:07] <moetunes> J_DawG:  use xev in terminal to check that your keyboard map has alt mapped right
[10:13] <J_DawG> I get: FocusOut event, serial 35, synthetic NO, window 0x4c00001 and FocusIn event, serial 35, synthetic NO, window 0x4c00001, and KeymapNotify event, serial 35, synthetic NO, window 0x0, when i press Alt (after i wrote xev in terminal)
[10:18] <moetunes> it should mention something about keysym
[10:21] <moetunes> KeyPress event, serial 27, synthetic NO, window 0x1600001,
[10:21] <moetunes>     root 0xb3, subw 0x0, time 12274627, (438,443), root:(441,446),
[10:21] <moetunes>     state 0x10, keycode 64 (keysym 0xffe9, Alt_L), same_screen YES,
[10:21] <moetunes> something like ^ J_DawG
[11:39] <TornadoXubuntu> Hello! please do you know any application that allows me to customize the panels on my desktop (xubuntu 10.10). The current default panels are not customizable a lot.
[11:46] <TornadoXubuntu> ok thanks i found it
[11:47] <TornadoXubuntu> cairo-dock-core is what i was looking for
[11:47] <TornadoXubuntu> by the way is this the only xubuntu help channel?
[12:51] <XFCEgoat> how do I use on screen keyboard XFCE, xubuntu?
[12:51] <Sysi> install and start and use
[12:54] <kyosp> run onboard
[12:57] <XFCEgoat> kyosp: how do i do that from the terminal?
[12:59] <kyosp> type "onboard"
[12:59] <kyosp> and press enter
[13:21] <NativeAngels> hello
[13:22] <Kronusdark> could someone please tell me how to make xubuntu not start with x and be command line only till i start x?
[13:23] <bazhang> !nox
[13:23] <Kronusdark> thanks
[13:23] <bazhang> welcome
[13:25] <NativeAngels> will xubuntu work on ancient mmx technology
[13:27] <kyosp> you mean MMX 166MHZ?
[13:27] <Kronusdark> ok so im remotely connecting to my ubuntu machine, is there a config file i can edit to make it start without X? there used to be a grub conf file but i dont know how to edit this new setup
[13:27] <NativeAngels> yes
[13:28] <Kronusdark> i cant do the shift or esc to get the grub menu
[13:29] <kyosp> NativeAngels:how many memory?
[13:29] <NativeAngels> i know its really old but this is the spec Toshiba Satellite Pro 480CDT Notebook (233-MHz Pentium MMX, 64 MB RAM, 4 GB hard drive)
[13:30] <NativeAngels> ive tried slackware,puppy,bsd
[13:30] <NativeAngels> and dsl
[13:30] <NativeAngels> its just a project to see what i can get working
[13:30] <bazhang> try lubuntu
[13:30] <kyosp> I tried in the virtualbox, it can only run the text mode only.
[13:31] <NativeAngels> i tried but for some reason it dont like kernal 2.6
[13:32] <psycho_oreos> I can imagine xubuntu would struggle with only 64MB of RAM
[13:32] <NativeAngels> and a pcmcia wireless card
[13:32] <NativeAngels> text based stuff is ok
[13:33] <NativeAngels> dont know about ubuntu server
[13:33] <moetunes> there's been some pentium3 stuff removed from the kernel lately so a mmx chip might be too old for the newer kernels
[13:33] <NativeAngels> what about older versions of xubuntu ?
[13:33] <psycho_oreos> ubuntu server is more or less ubuntu desktop without X mainly and mostly server apps + server kernel
[13:34] <NativeAngels> does that make it any lighter
[13:34] <psycho_oreos> older xubuntu versions may leave you out of support, notably when talking about 2.4.x series kernels
[13:34] <psycho_oreos> it would for sure yes, but usability-wise for a linux beginner, no
[13:34] <NativeAngels> dsl was ok
[13:35] <moetunes> dsl uses 2.4 kernels iirc
[13:35] <NativeAngels> bsd is a nightmare
[13:35] <psycho_oreos> freebsd?
[13:35] <NativeAngels> i tried open,free and netbsd
[13:36] <NativeAngels> thing is it dosnt have eithernet port
[13:36] <moetunes> I'd stick with dsl for a comp that old
[13:36] <psycho_oreos> well afaik freebsd, the same is pretty much as ubuntu server, ncurses based installer and then after all the installation is done it'll leave you with a shell prompt. I just noticed you've tinkered with slackware as well. ubuntu-server will be more or less the same :)
[13:37] <NativeAngels> slackware was ok
[13:37] <NativeAngels> basically im just seing what lite distros work on really old kit
[13:38] <moetunes> you need to find a compatible kernel and work from there
[13:39] <NativeAngels> gone through quite a few cds in the process lol
[13:39] <moetunes> heh
[13:39] <moetunes> it's a fun but time consuming hobby
[13:40] <NativeAngels> i have a stack of old towers to fix and parts etc
[13:42] <kyosp> does any one using xfce 4.8?
[13:43] <moetunes> kyosp:  archlinux users are having some issues with it, it's not quite ready yet
[15:44] <TornadoXubuntu> Hello! Please the "paste" feature is completely disabled in my XUbuntu 10 system. Even in administrative mode. Any ideas please?
[15:45] <TheSheep> "paste" feature?
[15:45] <TheSheep> what is that?
[15:45] <TheSheep> Maybe describe what you are doing, what do you expect to happen and what happens.
[15:47] <TornadoXubuntu> yes sure! am not able to copy and paste throughout files or anything.
[15:47] <TornadoXubuntu> am able to copy but the paste is always disabled
[15:47] <TornadoXubuntu> even in the root mode
[15:47] <TheSheep> do you have write access to where you are trying to paste?
[15:48] <TheSheep> is that only for a specific disk or directory, or is it anywhere?
[15:48] <TornadoXubuntu> if i am the administrator i must be able to paste anywhere is it?
[15:48] <TornadoXubuntu> yes i think so
[15:48] <TheSheep> no
[15:48] <TheSheep> even admin can't write to read-only devices, for example
[15:48] <TheSheep> can you create new files?
[15:49] <TheSheep> or directories
[15:50] <TornadoXubuntu> yes am able to create files and the paste feature was working from couple of days. I am the only user on the system.
[15:50] <TornadoXubuntu> am able to delete files as well
[18:06] <Ramir00> Xubuntu spanish??
[18:10] <charlie-tca> as in speaking here or using spanish in xubuntu?
[18:10] <Ramir00> speaking spanish
[18:10] <charlie-tca> !spanish
[18:10] <charlie-tca> The #ubuntu-es can help with Xubuntu too
[19:26] <pdxanna> hi everyone howzit
[19:27] <pdxanna> i had joined this channel a few months ago to ask about the shutdown issue with systems which had older bios
[19:27] <pdxanna> it seems that there is only workarounds for shutting down older systems running xubuntu
[19:28] <pdxanna> or perhaps workaround isn't the right word
[19:29] <mhall119> charlie-tca: congrats, btw
[19:29] <pdxanna> if you're running an older system you hit the shutdown button in xubuntu but still have to physically press the power button once the system is halted
[19:29] <pdxanna> the thing is that if you logout of xubuntu, then click the shutdown button from xfce, the system will completely halt and power off on its own
[19:30] <pdxanna> so my question is why does the xfce shutdown command succeed where the xubuntu shutdown does not?
[19:30] <charlie-tca> um, it doesn't
[19:30] <charlie-tca> That should be the login screen with the button?
[19:30] <pdxanna> correct
[19:30] <charlie-tca> That would be GDM, not Xfce
[19:30] <pdxanna> from the login screen
[19:30] <pdxanna> i see
[19:30] <charlie-tca> the xfce button is in the panel in the desktop
[19:30] <pdxanna> ah
[19:31] <charlie-tca> and, I see your point, but I don't know the answer
[19:31] <pdxanna> i have it backwards then -- i've been referring to that one as the xubuntu
[19:31] <pdxanna> anyway
[19:31] <pdxanna> it manages to completely unmount and halt everything
[19:31] <charlie-tca> I wish I could tell you. It should not work any different, unless there is something in the gui that is blocking the shutdown
[19:32] <pdxanna> from what i can see in the forums and elsewhere there are a lot of people saying the gui doesn't allow the complete shutdown
[19:32] <charlie-tca> At the GDM screen (login), you have less of the X server running, maybe that is what is blocking things
[19:32] <charlie-tca> what version?
[19:33] <pdxanna> 10.10
[19:34] <charlie-tca> Is there a bug report?
[19:34] <Sysi> could LTS be better with older HW?
[19:35] <charlie-tca> depends on the hardware
[19:35] <pdxanna> i have not seen a report
[19:35] <charlie-tca> some hardware needs the latest kernel modules, some needs the stuff that went obsolete
[19:35] <pdxanna> i've seen the same issue come up for other versions
[19:35] <pdxanna> they all have bios older than 2000...(?)
[19:36] <charlie-tca> hm, things seldom get fixed that aren't reported
[19:36] <pdxanna> lol i can follow that logic
[19:36] <charlie-tca> Have they tried updating the bios itself?
[19:36] <pdxanna> i would be happy to submit whatever
[19:36] <charlie-tca> I know that fixed it for a lot of users
[19:36] <pdxanna> no actually
[19:36] <pdxanna> ok that's on today's agenda
[19:37] <charlie-tca> Many board companies updated the bios after y2k
[20:16] <pdxanna> before i have to shut down thanks a lot folks for lending me an ear
[20:16] <pdxanna> i'd hate to submit a duplicate ticket but I think this issue hasn't been reported - and xubuntu is very popular for some of these machines (which might be older than god) so i
[20:17] <pdxanna> will do that later if these suggestions don't work out
[20:17] <pdxanna> thanks again
[20:20] <charlie-tca> by all means, file the bug. We will mark it if it is a duplicate
[22:00] <tripelb> !requirements
[22:01] <tripelb> Hey! it's not on there. I am looking for something like this: "The Recommended Minimum System Requirements, here, should allow even an inexperienced user to easily install a usable system with enough room to be comfortable. A good "rule of thumb" is that machines that could run XP, Vista, Windows 7 or x86 OS X will almost always be a lot faster with Ubuntu. Simply try Ubuntu CD as a Live CD first to check the hardware works."
[22:03] <charlie-tca> you mean, like the page you download from has ? see http://xubuntu.org/get
[22:04] <charlie-tca> or maybe you didn't read enough - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements#Lightweight%20GUI%20alternative%20(Xubuntu)
[22:05] <charlie-tca> or maybe that statement doesn't need repeating on other pages