[01:52] anyone around ? [01:55] What's up [01:55] ? [01:56] got a small problem [01:56] I have an usb headset , ms lifechat [01:56] phonon detected it [01:56] but now I plugged it [01:56] and is grayed [01:56] can't used it [01:57] any idea how I can do a "rescan" of audio devices or something like that ? [01:57] the headset is seen as an usb sound card [01:57] have you tryed Google or #kubuntu ? [01:57] This is a devel channel and not a support channel. [01:57] well ... I am on natty :D [01:57] ok , I'll ask on #kubuntu [01:57] ahhhh. [01:58] btw , kubuntu natty is awesome [01:58] I mean kde is moving better than ever :D [01:58] :) Thanks [01:59] I always had issues with kwin performance , but works great now [02:00] Thanks for the support. :) [02:21] hey jjesse [02:22] hey darkwing [02:22] How are things in MI? [02:22] good snowing [02:22] hehehe [02:23] It's 68* here [02:23] I'm having one helluva time installing 11.04 on my VM [02:23] really? [02:24] i did a do-dist-upgrade -d or whatever on a maverick one [02:24] running vbox [02:24] for windows thought [02:24] ahhhh [02:25] * DarkwingDuck will do that. [02:26] New computer new setups [02:27] umm runn vbox 4.0 or whatever thats what i'm ding [02:28] Yeah, I'm running that [02:33] bzr info [02:33] BAH [02:39] hrmm now my vm is black [02:47] Hmmz [02:47] valorie: ping [02:55] DarkwingDuck: pong [02:58] Yay! [02:58] valorie: did you still want to be editor in chief like we talked about in FL? [02:58] EDITOR IN CHIEF? [02:58] XD [02:58] editor in chief? [02:58] whatchoo talkin' bout, willis? [02:58] what? [02:59] LOL [02:59] A couple of cycles ago [02:59] I'm a good editor [02:59] we had someone who would go through docs when they were finished and check spelling, grammer ect [02:59] but so far from knowing enough to be In Chief of anything here [02:59] yet [02:59] I don't remember who that was [02:59] :P [03:00] You want to still being the editor for the docs? [03:00] copy-editing is good [03:00] sure [03:00] Do you know how to use bzr? [03:00] editor in chief makes bigger decisions than spelling [03:00] lol [03:00] not at all [03:00] :P [03:00] I know how to clone and pull from git [03:00] My bad on the term useage for jjesse who was freaking out :P [03:01] valorie: sudo apt-get instal bzr [03:01] is it a bit like that (I hope) [03:01] Close [03:01] ok [03:02] that's cookin' [03:02] I'm still updating my VM [03:03] I love me a new system but... it takes forever to get things back the way they were. [03:03] for sure [03:16] i am the EDITOR A SLEEP [03:16] or the editor not around :) [03:18] or NOT EVEN AN EDITOR [03:18] you should come back and help out :) [03:18] no thanks [03:18] to much has to change for me to do that [03:18] yes there is [03:19] trust me [03:19] sabdfl would have to get on his knees and apologize, and just hope i don't kick him in his teeth for fucking me [03:19] nixternal: every time I find some BAD, which must be CHANGED [03:19] I'll just blame you! [03:19] everyone else does :) [03:19] :-) [03:20] i never understood why you and sabdfl fell out of love [03:20] I was just gonna ask [03:21] he fucked me out of a job because I said "blue headed step child" or "2nd class citizen" during open week [03:22] wow really? [03:22] a job @ canonical or another company [03:22] i made it all the way to the top and was supposed to have my last interview with him and the vp of whatever it was i was going to do, and neither of them called me or even emailed me to tell me anything [03:22] wow that sucks [03:22] i contacted their shitty secretary and she said she would find out, but never did [03:23] ouch [03:23] and you never found anything out? [03:23] seems jcastro and jono knew all about it, but weren't man enough to say it to me, just man enough to tell everyone else about it [03:23] really? that doesn't sound like jcastro and jono [03:23] from what i know [03:23] yeah, i found out through the grapevine because jono and jorge couldn't keep their mouths shut [03:23] and then they act like friends the whole time, fuck that, i don't need friends like that [03:24] wow that totally sucks dude [03:24] i wondered why you disappeared [03:25] well there you have it...i think that is the first time i ever told anyone [03:25] oh, and rick spencer fucked me too, but not as bad [03:25] wow [03:25] what did rick do? [03:25] i never got along w/ rick it seemed [03:26] supposedly had me lined up for a position, i send him everything he needs to know...and he was like yeah, kde this, kde that...and i never heard back on that one either...of course they hired a gnometard for that position [03:26] oh bummer dude [03:26] where you working these days? [03:26] i did, rick hooked me up in the past, he is a really great guy...i can't put the blame all on rick as i am sure their were strings being pulled in the background, but the fact they never have the balls to speak up is bitch if you ask me [03:27] for microsoft [03:27] that does suck they never told you what was wrong [03:27] what you doing for MS [03:27] planning the open source community attack [03:27] nice [03:28] heh, actually i am not working for ms...you couldn't have fallen for that one [03:28] i totally didn't [03:28] i almost did...but i decided it would be in my best interest not to get tied in to something. i wouldn't mind working for them, but the nda was stupid [03:29] they are actually planning on an open source attack with shit like Office, IE, and more of their codeplex stuff [03:29] nice [03:29] they are actually going to license some Office stuff GPL3 in the future according to them [03:29] and the nice thing, they hooked me up with a sweet ass desktop running the oh so not awesome windows 7 :D [03:30] hey i have no problems w/ win 7 :) [03:31] either do i, i just hate the apps out there that people swear by [03:31] like notepad++ [03:31] what a joke [03:32] putty, another joke (ssh) [03:32] notepad++ stinks [03:32] though i do have to say, calibre works on windows and sucks in ubuntu [03:32] and there is way to much clicking in windows [03:33] though now I am running launch bound to alt+f2 so I don't have to do much :) [03:33] and running synergy+ and sharing my laptop keyboard and mouse on the desktop which is pretty sweet [03:33] sounds pretty cool [03:35] i've been running my VMs in seamless mode in virtualbox and its pretty cool [03:36] yeah, i have always used seamless mode in vbox [03:37] heh, i had someone ask me if this laptop was a hackintosh because i had os x and windows 7 running in it as guests and arch as a host [03:37] nice [03:37] you an arch guy these days? [03:37] i am whatever intel works on guy these days [03:38] going to give nutty a try and see how that goes [03:38] kde natty works great on my dell mini [03:38] love it [03:39] ooh, forgot i still have that piece of crap netbook [03:39] * nixternal downloads nutty now for it [10:39] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1675894 wibble [10:44] yeah packagekit needs a safe resolver that doesn't mindlessly kill packages [10:48] Looks like everyone is looking at the same bug :P [10:49] Riddell: possibly add a warning on the release page? [10:51] well, I did ask on bug 708151 if they have kdebase-workspace-data installed [10:51] Launchpad bug 708151 in Kubuntu PPA "can't log in to KDE after upgrading to 4.6" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/708151 [10:51] Yep.. [10:51] agateau: what's the status of the libindicate-qt api port? pidgin doesn't appear in the message indicator anymore :( [11:00] droidslayer: could do although I'd rather we just worked out what the issue is [11:01] hm, post #12 on that thread - I did get a kdmrc merge request from dpkg here, so maybe that needed updating and kpk just kept the old one? [11:01] Ok.... [11:01] I'm sure I didn't edit the kdmrc here though [11:01] more like, I installed this system a week ago, so I definitely didn't edit it [11:16] Riddell: do you have time to sponsor a few packages? === yofel_ is now known as yofel [11:30] debfx: yo can do [11:31] yofel: the only change in kdmrc is the wallpaper [11:32] but kde.desktop is now plasma.desktop so they will have to select that [11:32] Riddell: http://people.ubuntu.com/~debfx/phonon-backend-gstreamer_4.7.0really4.4.4-0ubuntu3.debdiff [11:32] http://people.ubuntu.com/~debfx/kdesudo_3.4.2.3-2ubuntu3.debdiff [11:33] and amarok from bzr [11:34] yeah, I did get the warning for the session being invalid, but selecting the new one worked fine here === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan === droidslayer_ is now known as droidslayer [12:09] - dh --with kde $@ [12:09] + dh $@ --with kde [12:09] debfx: what's the significance of that? [12:13] those three uploaded === starcraftman is now known as starcraft [12:33] Riddell: dh8 needs the options behind the $@ [12:34] dh8 already?! [12:34] * In v8 mode, dh expects the sequence to run is always its first parameter. [12:34] (Ie, use "dh $@ --foo", not "dh --foo $@") [12:34] This avoids ambiguities when parsing options to be passed on to debhelper [12:34] commands. (See #570039) [12:35] from the debhelper changelog [12:52] JontheEchidna: ping [12:52] Riddell: around? [13:14] hi ari-tczew [13:16] Riddell: PM possible? [13:17] ari-tczew: using the /msg command I believe [13:20] :) === starcraft is now known as starcraftman [14:50] Oh greatg [14:50] Something killed my X [14:51] :/ [14:52] Wololol segfaults at X [14:53] Quintasan|Droid: natty? [14:53] ari-tczew: yup [14:55] How do I revert? [14:56] ari-tczew: ^ [14:57] Quintasan|Droid: install packages which you had before updating system :> [14:58] Easier said then done [15:00] ari-tczew: what was the exact version before upgrade? [15:00] Quintasan|Droid: of which package? [15:01] ari-tczew: xserver-xorg-core [15:03] Quintasan|Droid: last upload to natty: xorg-server (2:1.9.0.902-1ubuntu4) Thu, 06 Jan 2011 14:35:59 -0800 [15:03] doubt that this is due to this package [15:06] Hmm [15:06] Maybe it is the new kernel [15:07] Hmm it is not [15:20] shadeslayer_: well Im stuck, segfaults on X === Nightrose2 is now known as Nightrose [15:25] Quintasan|Droid: hahaha [15:25] #ubuntu-x ? === shadeslayer_ is now known as shadeslayer [15:34] shadeslayer: like hell anyone there know what they upload [15:36] lol [15:39] ... [15:39] Quintasan|Droid: tried xorg edgers? [15:40] shadeslayer: paste me the ppa line pls [15:41] Quintasan|Droid: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/xorg-edgers/ppa/ubuntu natty main [15:41] * Quintasan|Droid loves when someone uploads something without testing it [15:43] Lol massive breakage [15:43] o_o [15:43] Quintasan|Droid: whut whut? === jjesse_ is now known as jjesse [15:44] Wants to uninstall every x pacakge [15:44] Something was noy built in the ppa probably [15:45] Evdev is broken [15:45] shadeslayer: what version of xorg-xserver-input-evdev you have? [15:45] In /var/cache/apt/archives [15:45] i haz maverick [15:46] no such package :P [15:46] ... :/ [15:46] !find xorg-xserver-input-evdev maverick [15:46] Package/file xorg-xserver-input-evdev does not exist in maverick [15:46] Xsever-xorg actually [15:47] !find xserver-org [15:47] Package/file xserver-org does not exist in maverick [15:47] Drderp [15:47] !find xserver-xorg-input-evdev [15:47] Found: xserver-xorg-input-evdev, xserver-xorg-input-evdev-dev [15:51] Quintasan: X back on? [15:51] also [15:51] kdebindings foo [15:53] derp [15:53] shadeslayer: they broke evdev [15:53] yayy [15:53] Quintasan: so your system uses evdev? [15:53] i dont even know what that is [15:53] every system probably uses evdev for something [15:54] oooohhh it has a wikipedia page [15:54] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evdev [15:55] * Quintasan compiles telepathy [16:18] * Quintasan thought he would have to use Pidgin [16:27] ScottK: I think I need your arm builders to sort out the sodding .symbols files for qtmobility, how do I log in again? [16:34] !find tCore4.so' [16:34] Package/file tCore4.so does not exist in maverick [16:36] my visa application has been processed! [16:36] I wonder what the result will be [16:37] wheee [16:56] Oh crud visa... thanks for reminding me Riddell... I need to get my passport fixed [17:00] DarkwingDuck: going somewhere? [17:00] Hopefully UDS [17:01] yum, Hungary [17:01] But, my passport still says "Offical US Government" on it [17:01] GreyGeek: I was just thinking about you last night... [17:02] unlike the nonofficial US government? [17:02] Yeah... When I was in the military they gave me one for Offical US travel... [17:03] But, now that I'm out I need to get one as a civilian [17:03] any ideas on this FTBFS http://paste.kde.org/3626/ [17:03] Them little buggers cost enough [17:10] DarkwingDuck: In Natty's repository are 10 GUI RADs, 19 IDE's and about 8 web tools. Two don't appear to be supported any more: Gazpacho and SPE [17:11] DarkwingDuck: I've been writing up descriptions of each tool and giving their home websites. [17:11] GreyGeek: Sweet. :) You are going nice and deep. +1 [17:12] DarkwingDuck: I wanted it to be complete, BUT, I don't think that it is a place for specific API information [17:14] GreyGeek: No, currently we have been using mostly what come with Kubuntu installed. My dream is a quick overview of what other options there are. [17:14] GreyGeek you ole coot, do you ever slow down? [17:14] DarkwingDuck: That was my thought, too. [17:15] * claydoh gets tired watching you go [17:15] * claydoh gets tired just watcing you go, that is [17:15] claydoh: Slow down, at my age I can't afford to stop... if I did I'd never get going again! ;-) [17:15] GreyGeek: what doc ar you working on? [17:15] ;) [17:16] GreyGeek: lol i can only dream of having that much energy, but [17:16] i am working on it [17:16] claydoh: 3 young kids seem to give you energy [17:16] DarkwingDuck: Kubuntu Documentation --> Kubuntu System Documentation --> Development Tools [17:17] DarkwingDuck: no, not goung that route [17:17] :) [17:17] But 3 young grandkids can wear you out! [17:17] GreyGeek: thanks! [17:17] claydoh: Heh! they keep you young. [17:18] i substitute working with young folks for that [17:18] DarkWingDuck: My goal is to fairly describe each tool and its specific uses, but not get into programming details. [17:18] but that often makes me feel older than I am [17:19] jjesse: ping [17:19] DarkWingDuck: I logged on to ask if anyone knew if Gazpacho was being used significantly and if not why was it on the CD? [17:19] GreyGeek: a quick overview and maybe how to obtain it would be good. Then a deeper overview of what comes pre-loaded with Natty [17:20] DarkwingDuck: Ditto for SPE [17:20] GreyGeek: That, I do not know. [17:21] DarkwingDuck: I used the current Natty repository to identify all the programming tools. So far I include a description of each tool and its home page. [17:21] GreyGeek: I <3 you :P:P [17:22] Well I more than three you! [17:22] DarkwingDuck: Gazpacho's home page is a dead link and it is a Glade tool anyway, so discussing Glade is probably enough. [17:22] GreyGeek: should be [17:22] DarkwingDuck: Since SPE and Gazpacho are in the repository I thought that their space on the CD could be better used. [17:23] SPE and Gazpacho are included on the CD? [17:23] Riddell: ^^^^^^ [17:24] DarkwingDuck: Also, as probably everyone knows, I am no fan of Mono (IF Windows API becomes the default on Linux then what is the point of Linux?) [17:24] DarkwingDuck: but, it deserves a fair representation. [17:25] GreyGeek: that will be one of those topics that goes on for ages [17:25] Riddell: Opps, my bad! Neither is on the CD. I forgot that I used the repository, NOT the CD, to determine what tools to document. Sorry. (Seel what you've got to look forward to: Sometimers!) [17:26] [17:27] DarkwingDuck: Basically, what I was going to mention that the WinForms, ADO and similar .NET cloned stuff was NOT under ECMA 334 or 335 [17:28] * DarkwingDuck nods [17:28] DarkwingDuck: and the "Promise" only covers ECMA technology, so folks who use all of Mono's GUI capabilities should be aware of the risks. [17:28] Correct [17:29] DarkwingDuck: Ok, then. I' [17:29] DarkwingDuck: opps, fat fingers -- Ok, then, I'll get back to scribbling. [17:29] GreyGeek: I have a computer back so I will be more accessable [17:29] don't hesitate to email [17:30] DarkwingDuck: Well, I've been spending a lot of time with the family and grandkids over the holidays. I'm just now getting back into the saddle. [17:30] My computer fried out about a month ago.. I just got a new one so I feel ya on that. [17:31] DarkwingDuck: what kind of box did you get? [17:31] hah [17:31] apachelogger: http://paste.kde.org/3636 [17:31] Laptop. Lenovo W700 [17:32] I guy I do work with donated it. [17:32] DarkwingDuck: I'll have to google it so I can determine if I have the appropriate amount of envy! ;-) [17:33] Quad core 2.56Ghz, 8Gig ram 17"TFT scren, blueray [17:33] dang! [17:33] the works [17:33] * claydoh droools [17:33] DarkwingDuck: My wife "donated" her 15" Acer Aspire 3004Li to our youngest grandson (almost 5) and I bought her an Acer Aspire One A-0521. It is an awesome little box! [17:34] sweet [17:34] DarkwingDuck: never mind the google, I'm drooling already..... [17:34] * claydoh is upgrading from a p4-m to a less old dell core2 duo [17:34] DarkwingDuck: Are you sure it will be fast enough for you? lol [17:35] LOL Its better then the Celron 1.3 I *was* using [17:35] it should be able to calculate the paths to the multiverse [17:35] LOL [17:35] Well, I can run VMs now [17:36] Although... I'm getting this crazy VM bug when I try to install Natty in a VM [17:36] It's driving me nuts [17:36] But, I think it has to do with ext4 [17:37] DarkwingDuck: I'm running Natty in VB. What's your problem? [17:38] Around 80% it give a kernal/ext4 error... I'm DLing Natty again and will try it again in about 45 minutes [17:38] If it tags again I'll file a bug [17:38] Well, I've got a form to check and docs to write... See ya. Everyone take care! [17:39] Thanks again GreyGeek [17:39] jjesse: ping [19:27] apachelogger: who is Charles Weber? [19:28] like ... IRC Nick [19:29] Who is = IRC nick lol [19:29] :P [19:29] shadeslayer: who is that? [19:29] yofel: dunno [19:30] i got a friend request from him on fb [19:30] skfin: i know people from their IRC nicks :P [19:30] s/know/recognize [19:31] knowing a person = knowing his irc nick [19:33] * claydoh is charles (clay) weber shadeslayer [19:33] lol [19:33] ahh [19:33] * shadeslayer clicks accept [19:33] hehe [19:34] btw anyone have digikam on maverick installed? [19:34] * claydoh is rejoining fb after a hiatus, will soon get his old 'claydoh' fb url he hopes [19:34] jep [19:34] try starting it up .... does it crash for you? [19:34] shadeslayer: one moment [19:34] sure [19:35] shadeslayer: no, but was the first start, lemme try the second [19:35] ok [19:35] shadeslayer: no crash [19:35] hmm [19:36] yofel: ^^ [19:36] weirdness [19:36] neversfelde: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=264769 [19:36] KDE bug 264769 in general "digikam crash on startup" [Crash,Unconfirmed] [19:36] wait, that's the wrong version... [19:37] * yofel goes looking for others [19:37] whut? [19:37] shadeslayer: this is digikam 1.4 [19:37] ahh ^^ [19:37] see [19:37] neversfelde: my fault, I searched [19:37] someone who has digikam 1.8? [19:37] do we have a backport somewhere? [19:37] I do [19:37] neversfelde: yep ... its in backports [19:38] shadeslayer: k, I will upgrade [19:38] ok :) [19:38] neversfelde: it also has KDE 4.6 [19:38] shadeslayer: I have both libmarbles and it doesnt crash [19:38] yes [19:38] :S [19:38] mhh, lp is not reachable atm for me [19:39] doesnt crash even after 10 times [19:40] doesnt crash for me too [19:42] i just sent Andrew a mail back [21:06] go go maco [21:06] :D [22:18] Riddell: put http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/flashplayer10/flashplayer10_2_p3_64bit_linux_111710.tar.gz in your ~/.mozilla/plugins folder [22:18] no more flash issues ;( [22:18] erm [22:18] ;) [22:19] [ assuming you have a 64 bit system ] [22:25] * DarkwingDuck sighs [22:28] Why does my VM hate me?