| cjohnston | Greetings.. Has anyone successfully installed skype on +1 yet? | 00:02 |
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| coz_ | hey all | 00:39 |
| BUGabundo_noX | hey coz | 00:54 |
| Ian_Corne | ok so with kernel .38 I get the 2 finger scrolling available to click | 01:09 |
| Ian_Corne | but it's still not working :p | 01:09 |
| === Amaranth_ is now known as Amaranth | ||
| histo | !info xfce | 03:26 |
| ubottu | Package xfce does not exist in natty | 03:26 |
| histo | !info xfce4 | 03:26 |
| ubottu | xfce4 (source: xfce4): Meta-package for the Xfce Lightweight Desktop Environment. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.8.0~ubuntu1 (natty), package size 4 kB, installed size 40 kB | 03:26 |
| alex_mayorga | messed up pannels on classic desktop anyone? | 04:03 |
| alex_mayorga | the clock/calendar is gone :( | 04:03 |
| === Amaranth_ is now known as Amaranth | ||
| alex_mayorga | the latests kernel update borks X over here :( | 04:35 |
| SheeEttin | about those X upgrades | 05:35 |
| SheeEttin | is there anything I can do about -evdev segfaulting X, or do I just have to wait for more upgrades? | 05:35 |
| rww | report a bug? | 05:37 |
| SheeEttin | I assumed it was just a partial ABI-breakage upgrade, should it be working? | 05:38 |
| hifi | got an EXA crash with latest xorg stuff from xorg-edgers ppa | 07:01 |
| charliemac | Any recommendations for a quicker combo (DM/DE) than GDM and Gnome? I was thinking of lubuntu because my laptop's at least 5 years old, but I really couldn't figure out how to do a network installation of Lubuntu, so I had to go with natty | 08:14 |
| charliemac | How can I adjust screen resolution when monitor is unknown? | 08:44 |
| Severian | Howdy. Is it likely that the alpha-2 cd images will fit on a blank CDR? Or, does that work come later? My test system is a pretty good machine, but only has a CD burner for optical media. | 08:48 |
| bazhang | Severian, does it boot from usb? | 08:50 |
| Severian | I suspect it does, but I have not tried. I did not see a image file to download. I thought those went away. I'll boot the system and check the bios now. | 08:52 |
| yofel | you can use usb-creator to create bootable usb driver from the cd images (that's why the usb images went away) | 08:53 |
| yofel | *usb drives | 08:53 |
| Severian | That would seem to me to be a chicken and egg problem. I have to install natty first to use it's usb creator, don't I? In a previous release, I could not create a USB installer with an older version of Ubuntu. | 08:55 |
| bazhang | or just use unetbootin to create it | 08:55 |
| yofel | usb-creator is available in older releases too (or use unetbootin, right) | 08:57 |
| Severian | I have an Intel D865GBF motherboard and it looks like it has good USB boot support. | 08:58 |
| Severian | First, does anyone know the answer to my question about when the work on making the images fit a CDR gets done? I'd still like to know that. Second, are you saying that I can use USB creator in Maverick to make a natty USB drive? One or two releases back, I tried a similar thing and it did not work. It may be better now, or it may be the alternate installers did not work well with USB creator. I need the alternate installer t | 09:02 |
| Severian | o setup my disk drive right. | 09:02 |
| yofel | ah, not sure about the alternate images, as for the size: I don't know, but they usually try to make the alpha* images actually testable, so they should be only slightly oversized if they can't fit it completely | 09:03 |
| Severian | The alternate image is 4 MB too big. So, it is close. The regular install is 14 MB too big. | 09:09 |
| yofel | try overburning the disk? 4M should probably fit | 09:10 |
| Severian | I did not see a way to do that with k3b. I'll see what google can tell me. | 09:12 |
| bazhang | k3b does have that option iirc | 09:12 |
| twager | yofel, I tried an overburn a week or so ago to give to a neighbour but it did not work..Had to take a usb stick | 09:14 |
| Severian | There is a setting to allow overburning. I'll try a burn. | 09:14 |
| Severian | Well, it is installing. Now, I'll cross my fingers that grub will install and make it a bootable system. I was testing with a VM until I gave up on making it bootable after an upgrade came in. No complaints, though as it is a test system and I know things break. | 09:56 |
| bazhang | nicely done :) | 09:57 |
| charliemac1 | #ubuntu-beginners here? | 10:00 |
| charliemac | How can I make natty 'lighter?' | 11:16 |
| === yofel_ is now known as yofel | ||
| charliemac | How can I use wine to run an exe file (windows format) | 11:33 |
| UndiFineD | charliemac: with wine | 11:33 |
| charliemac | not really sure how to make wine successful; I just had to do a force quit on the wine configuration app | 11:34 |
| UndiFineD | try #wine or #wine-hq | 11:34 |
| === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan | ||
| charliemac | UndiFineD: ahah thanks; i think it's actually #winehq | 11:36 |
| Severian | Oh well, Alternate Installer fails on real hardware as well as a VM. I updated bug 705755 and I don't see anything else to try at the moment. | 11:57 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 705755 in debian-installer (Ubuntu) "Natty Testing--Alternate OEM Install, grub-pc/grub2 failed to install" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/705755 | 11:57 |
| cjohnston | Has anyone had success getting Skype to work on natty? | 12:02 |
| matrixa1 | yes | 12:14 |
| matrixa1 | did not have to do anything magical to get it working | 12:15 |
| matrixa1 | although that might have changed with some recent updates, will check later today | 12:16 |
| charliemac | How can I activate laptop speakers? | 12:33 |
| * penguin42 saw a film the other day on Nawhal hunting; apparently their skin is very high in Vitamin C | 13:38 | |
| scotty^ | G'day all. Will the DRM kernel patches for the (non-Cayman) Radeon HD 6000 series cards be backported to Natty's 2.6.37 kernel? Apparently they aren't too invasive. | 13:39 |
| scotty^ | penguin42 - interesting | 13:39 |
| penguin42 | scotty^: I don't know; you could try asking in #ubuntu-x and #ubuntu-kernel but I'm not sure, I think NN is due to have 2.6.38 so if they land in that there is a good chance | 13:40 |
| scotty^ | Yeah, they have been pulled into 2.6.38 but I wasn't sure if that kernel will make it into Natty given it is only at 2.6.38-rc2 and it is getting late in Natty's development. | 13:42 |
| scotty^ | Will try asking in #ubuntu-kernel | 13:42 |
| scotty^ | they come and they go :) | 13:45 |
| Ian_Corne | 2.6.38 is in the repo atm | 14:12 |
| scotty^ | It is? | 14:20 |
| * scotty^ checks | 14:21 | |
| coz_ | hey all | 14:21 |
| scotty^ | 22 hours ago. Cool! | 14:23 |
| BluesKaj | Hi folks | 14:40 |
| coz_ | hey guys,, any issues with current updates? | 14:43 |
| charlie-tca | My Xubuntu seems real slow after updating 10 hours ago | 14:50 |
| coz_ | apparenlty no issues...:) | 14:52 |
| === MichealH is now known as MH0 | ||
| BUGabundo | hey | 14:55 |
| BUGabundo | FINALLY got my X fixed! | 14:55 |
| coz_ | that darn grab handle is really irritating | 14:55 |
| coz_ | BUGabundo, ` cool :) | 14:55 |
| BUGabundo | I just did wtat the MAN said not to | 14:55 |
| BUGabundo | upgraded ALL lol | 14:55 |
| coz_ | lol | 14:55 |
| BUGabundo | missing a few metapacakges | 14:55 |
| BUGabundo | but its working | 14:55 |
| BUGabundo | compiz is dead :( | 14:55 |
| coz_ | ooo | 14:55 |
| BUGabundo | but already was soo..... | 14:55 |
| coz_ | oh on natty? Unity? | 14:55 |
| BUGabundo | natty OFC | 14:56 |
| BUGabundo | Classic desktop | 14:56 |
| coz_ | BUGabundo, oh ,,, mmm ... I compiled the regular 0.9.x I dont use the default one ,,, I guess I could try it | 14:58 |
| BUGabundo | chromium is acting up .... again | 14:58 |
| BluesKaj | BUGabundo, chromium is not my fav anymore since I started using our tv as a monitor ..it's toolbar and boomarkbar , and tab fonts don't integrate with either gnome or kde settings which have to be much higher on a 1920x1080 scrn | 15:12 |
| BluesKaj | gotta use FF , which works fine | 15:14 |
| BluesKaj | BUGabundo, how is chromium acting up? | 15:17 |
| BUGabundo | it freezes seconds after 1st opening | 15:18 |
| Daekdroom | And X server suddenly decide to not work :P | 15:30 |
| Daekdroom | I know. Alpha software. | 15:30 |
| BUGabundo | naa | 15:31 |
| BUGabundo | its like that for 4 days | 15:31 |
| BUGabundo | I fixed mine today | 15:31 |
| Daekdroom | My monitor enters powersaving state when X starts :( | 15:32 |
| Daekdroom | and it was working earlier today and no updates and all. | 15:32 |
| Daekdroom | I'll reinstall natty later. | 15:32 |
| zniavre_ | topic | 15:43 |
| === eric is now known as Guest17963 | ||
| === Guest17963 is now known as ebischoff | ||
| galamar | hey i am having trouble with synaptic when i try to install some apps (opera) it says its installing for like 2seconds and then just stops without error (just the install not synaptic) | 17:13 |
| BluesKaj | galamar, did you add the repos ppa? | 17:30 |
| Bauldrick | hello - I have this error with python2.7-minimal in upgrading to natty and get past it - pycompile:240: Requested versions are not installed - what do I need do? | 17:41 |
| galamar | it only happens with software i download from their websites. my repos dont contain opera? | 17:46 |
| BluesKaj | galamar, the opera deb file is self installing , just click on the file you downloaded | 17:53 |
| galamar | i do and it opens with synaptic | 17:54 |
| === wzssyqa is now known as Guest84036 | ||
| Guest84036 | Upgraded today, purge packages which can be autoremoved, but now, I can not start gdm now | 17:56 |
| Guest84036 | Any idea? | 17:57 |
| Kongstad | I have an issue with installing Natty on VirtualBox. I have tried with A1 + Latest Nighty. Earlier I had it working, but during Yesterday I lost access to it due to an update. Any one with an advice. | 18:05 |
| Guest84036 | Kongstan you upgraded kernel? | 18:07 |
| Volkodav | lilo | 18:07 |
| Volkodav | and grub2 | 18:07 |
| Kongstad | Yes | 18:07 |
| Guest84036 | Kongstad it seems that the new 38 kernel doesn't work well with vb now | 18:08 |
| Kongstad | But not only, The old kernel could not start up either. Can it be a change in udev? | 18:09 |
| Bauldrick | I have tied post 9 in bug report #689306 , but I am faced with the same problem as last post in bug #689615 - any tips ? | 18:39 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 689615 in python2.7 (Ubuntu) "pycompile fixes needed for maverick" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/689615 | 18:39 |
| Bauldrick | hoorah, don't know if it's correct, but it's got my upgrade moving again - fix /usr/share/python/debpython/version.py to say SUPPORTED = [(2, 6), (2, 7)] | 18:55 |
| dupondje | VirtualBox is broken it seems | 19:08 |
| charlie-tca | duanedesign: 4.0? | 19:10 |
| dupondje | charlie-tca: no, the version in natty itself | 19:10 |
| charlie-tca | That's been broken for a while | 19:11 |
| dupondje | 4.0 is in some ppa ? | 19:11 |
| leifw | since upgrading to natty, evolution just hangs (sits at 0%) when it tries to connect to a local imap server (dovecot). I haven't changed settings since the upgrade, and both offlineimap and alpine can still connect to it, it's just evolution that doesn't do anything | 19:19 |
| leifw | can't really get any good debugging information | 19:21 |
| charlie-tca | dupondje: Not that I know of | 19:22 |
| leifw | does anyone know, at the least, what component (apt package or something) to investigate about this, or how to make evolution spit out better debugging information? | 19:22 |
| charlie-tca | dupondje: I downloaded it direct from Oracle. All you need is to the source to /etc/apt/sources.list | 19:22 |
| charlie-tca | then you can run apt-get update and install it just like any other app | 19:22 |
| cjohnston | matrixa1: When I double click the .deb, the mouse goes to the little clock and then nothing else happens | 19:30 |
| cjohnston | (skype) sorry for taking so long to get back.. didnt see it | 19:31 |
| cjohnston | matrixa1: http://www.chimerarevo.com/2011/01/27/come-installare-skype-su-ubuntu-11-04-natty/ seemed to work | 19:34 |
| Kongstad | leifw: Maybe try #evolution, but for sure you need to install packages evolution-dbg and evolution-data-server-dbg. | 19:36 |
| Kongstad | leifw: and start gdb /usr/bin/evolution | 19:38 |
| leifw | some logging information seems more useful | 19:38 |
| leifw | I don't think gdb is going to help me solve a connectivity problem, at least, not quickly | 19:39 |
| Kongstad | http://projects.gnome.org/evolution/bugs.shtml | 19:39 |
| leifw | ok | 19:39 |
| Kongstad | leifw: Maybe this will solve your issue CAMEL_DEBUG=all evolution >& evo.log | 19:41 |
| leifw | this is some interesting output, thanks | 19:42 |
| magicianlord | is 11.04 worth waiting for and passing on 10.10? | 20:07 |
| charlie-tca | anyone seeing a drastic slowdown with the latest updates? I can type my name before the c prints now | 20:31 |
| penguin42 | 1ouch | 20:32 |
| penguin42 | charlie-tca: This machine seems OK, and it was updated and rebooted a few hours or so ago | 20:32 |
| charlie-tca | Thank you | 20:33 |
| BUGabundo | charlie-tca: its fine here | 20:37 |
| BUGabundo | what kernel? | 20:37 |
| BUGabundo | .38 ? | 20:37 |
| penguin42 | still 37 here | 20:37 |
| yofel | 38 here | 20:38 |
| penguin42 | hmm | 20:38 |
| charlie-tca | 38 | 20:38 |
| yofel | suspend seems to have killed my touchpad though, thankfully thinkpads have a trackpoint | 20:38 |
| yofel | and dmesg tells me nothing except that synptics loaded fine on resume... | 20:39 |
| BUGabundo | yofel: one of you is lying :P | 20:39 |
| yofel | hm... | 20:39 |
| yofel | [ 91100.311] (EE) PreInit returned NULL for "SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad" | 20:39 |
| yofel | and that's it for useful error messages | 20:40 |
| charlie-tca | well, then, I guess I will troubleshoot after my user days session tonight | 20:42 |
| nysosym | Thank you for the improved notification system, NOW it makes sense | 20:44 |
| BUGabundo | it does????? | 20:44 |
| BUGabundo | mine are just STUPID old bubbles | 20:44 |
| BUGabundo | spent two cycles getting used to the new ones | 20:44 |
| BUGabundo | and now im back on the old :/ | 20:44 |
| charlie-tca | heh | 20:45 |
| charlie-tca | xubuntu | 20:45 |
| nysosym | yeah xubuntu sry | 20:45 |
| charlie-tca | +1 for xubuntu | 20:46 |
| nysosym | with themes and preferences just amazing :) | 20:46 |
| Kongstad2 | Xfce 4.8? charlie-tca | 20:46 |
| nysosym | jep | 20:46 |
| charlie-tca | of course | 20:47 |
| Kongstad2 | Is it a big step forward compared to 4.6? | 20:48 |
| nysosym | it's a big step | 20:50 |
| charlie-tca | um, yes, it is | 20:51 |
| penguin42 | hmm, compiz keeps crashing on me in classic mode | 21:11 |
| edgy | Hi, the latest updates broke X server. My card is ati radeon HD 5850. I removed fgrlx and rebooted but still can't boot. tried recovery and fail X safe but won't boot also, how can I fix this, please? | 21:19 |
| penguin42 | edgy: You say it doesn't boot - how far does it get? | 21:20 |
| edgy | penguin42: it gave me grub menu but won't reach display manager | 21:20 |
| penguin42 | what does the failsafe from grub do? | 21:22 |
| edgy | penguin42: black screen | 21:24 |
| charlie-tca | edgy: I get that black screen, but after 3-5 minutes, I get the login screen. | 21:24 |
| edgy | charlie-tca: and you have ati card? | 21:26 |
| edgy | charlie-tca: I really haven't waited for 3 mins | 21:26 |
| * penguin42 has had a ~90s hang on this machine for a few months | 21:27 | |
| charlie-tca | I have, and it is quite frustrating to wait that long for anything to show up. The only way I know it didn't fail is the monitor light stays on | 21:28 |
| penguin42 | edgy: Try removing the set gfxpayload= in the grub stansa and then go for the recovert one or take off the quiet splash vt.handoff-=7 and see if you can get any progress info | 21:29 |
| edgy | penguin42: good point, I will do reboot now and report back. please hang around for 6 mins ;) | 21:30 |
| penguin42 | sure | 21:30 |
| nekoCAT | I am using xubuntu natty daily. I have some questions and comments. | 21:45 |
| nysosym | just ask/comment ;) | 21:46 |
| penguin42 | ask the questions | 21:46 |
| nekoCAT | First, Gnumeric shows up twice in the menu. Once in office and once in science. | 21:46 |
| nysosym | sure it matches in these menus :) | 21:47 |
| charlie-tca | yes, | 21:47 |
| penguin42 | why in science? | 21:47 |
| charlie-tca | and it is used by both. You can file a bug for it, though | 21:47 |
| nekoCAT | Second I like the new look but the menu icon is rather small. | 21:48 |
| charlie-tca | because it is used for spreadsheets for scientific data gathering? | 21:48 |
| penguin42 | I guess so, but scientists use word processors and make presentations as well, I'd still put it as office | 21:48 |
| charlie-tca | I don't know | 21:48 |
| charlie-tca | nekoCAT: yeah, the icon should have stayed the same, didn't it? | 21:48 |
| charlie-tca | you should file a bug using "ubuntu-bug gnumeric" for the double menu entry | 21:49 |
| nekoCAT | I remember there being text after the menu icon in previous versions. Its been a while since I used xubuntu so its new to me. | 21:50 |
| edgy | hi, I now rebooted the pc and removed those splash quite vt... and it works! penguin42 | 21:50 |
| nekoCAT | Third thing, what is the triangle thing in the lower right of the screen? | 21:51 |
| charlie-tca | yes, it was the icon with "applications" after it | 21:51 |
| charlie-tca | the triangle thingy is reported already. It is a gtk3 "resize grip" | 21:52 |
| charlie-tca | It will show in almost every window that is not maximized, as 3 slashes in the lower right corner | 21:52 |
| BUGabundo | humm | 21:52 |
| nekoCAT | Oh, thanks about the triangle thing. I hope it gets fixed. | 21:53 |
| BUGabundo | touchpad is tooooo fast | 21:53 |
| penguin42 | edgy: Now split and figure out which one broke it - I'd bet on the gfx_mode thing | 21:53 |
| BluesKaj | hmm, last update took away the western alphabet , setting locales etc didn't help , also it looks like the nvidia driver upgrade broke X as well. Anyone else experience this prob? | 21:53 |
| nysosym | - | 21:53 |
| penguin42 | western alphabet? | 21:54 |
| charlie-tca | no, my nvidia upgraded fine | 21:54 |
| charlie-tca | well, maybe it didn't and that is what is wrong now. I didn't troubleshoot yet | 21:54 |
| BluesKaj | yeah, all I have is what seems to to be arabic or hindi script ...very strange | 21:54 |
| BluesKaj | penguin42: I'm ssh'd into the affected media pc from my den pc , but no updates or upgrades are helping ... booting into recovery mode or setting nomodeset in grub doesn't work either | 21:57 |
| nekoCAT | I will report the gnumeric bug. Thank you for your help. | 21:58 |
| penguin42 | BluesKaj: OK, that's damn odd - do you actually think it's real script or just corrupt? | 21:58 |
| BluesKaj | penguin42: I can say or sure that it looked like arabic or someother eastern script | 21:58 |
| BluesKaj | for sure | 21:59 |
| penguin42 | got a camera? | 21:59 |
| edgy_ | btw ubuntuforums.org is down! may be an X issue ;) | 21:59 |
| penguin42 | is it in X or at console? | 21:59 |
| BluesKaj | I can't boot in to take a picture , X is broken as well , penguin42...I''ssh'd in thekonsole from my other pc | 22:00 |
| BluesKaj | I haven't upgraded or rebooted on this pc yet ...don't think I will either | 22:01 |
| penguin42 | BluesKaj: OK, hmm you could do a ps -eaf and grep for X or gdm to see if X is running | 22:01 |
| penguin42 | BluesKaj: You could try chvt 1 to switch to a text console | 22:02 |
| BUGabundo | BluesKaj: AHAHAHA | 22:04 |
| BluesKaj | penguin42: I am ssh'd into the affected pc console ..i'm there , kdm is stopped | 22:05 |
| BUGabundo | BluesKaj: /topic ? :P | 22:05 |
| BUGabundo | I had to add x-edgers ppa | 22:05 |
| BUGabundo | and aptitude full-upgraded | 22:05 |
| BluesKaj | BUGabundo: I knew that but thought we were already past the X upgrade after yesterday | 22:06 |
| BUGabundo | yeah, me too :\ | 22:06 |
| BluesKaj | ok BUGabundo got a x-edgers ppa ur;? | 22:07 |
| BluesKaj | url | 22:07 |
| BluesKaj | I can add it from here | 22:07 |
| BUGabundo | # deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/xorg-edgers/nouveau/ubuntu natty main #nouveau | 22:07 |
| BUGabundo | # deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/xorg-edgers/ppa/ubuntu natty main #xorg-edgers | 22:07 |
| BluesKaj | cool BUGabundo thanks | 22:08 |
| Daekdroom | I bumped into that X issue too :( | 22:09 |
| Daekdroom | I reinstalled natty and then it happened again after the updates. Should have tried xorg-edgers before :P | 22:09 |
| BluesKaj | BUGabundo: the upgrade is going to remove 6 xserver-xorg packages , did you experience that ? | 22:16 |
| BUGabundo | the metapackages? | 22:17 |
| BUGabundo | yeah | 22:17 |
| penguin42 | hmm, so I seem to have both libreoffice and openffice installed now | 22:21 |
| penguin42 | although it's going to take me a while to stop reading it as lib-reoffice | 22:21 |
| BUGabundo | ahaha | 22:25 |
| BUGabundo | is it in the archive ?? | 22:25 |
| BUGabundo | oh it is | 22:26 |
| * BUGabundo install | 22:26 | |
| penguin42 | it installed it automatically for me | 22:27 |
| BUGabundo | libreoffice-l10n-pt-br | 22:29 |
| BUGabundo | eeeeeeeeewwwww | 22:29 |
| penguin42 | eew? | 22:30 |
| BUGabundo | pt-br.... but no pt-pt | 22:33 |
| Daekdroom | There is a libreoffice-l10n-pt package iirc | 22:33 |
| BUGabundo | libreoffice-l10n-pt | 22:34 |
| BUGabundo | yeah it installed it | 22:34 |
| BUGabundo | darn quick filter sorts are weird | 22:34 |
| Daekdroom | I have no idea why the pt-br translation sticks with the BrOffice branding | 22:35 |
| Daekdroom | I don't think there'll be any problem in using the LibreOffice brand in Brazil. | 22:35 |
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