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dscasselBack!00:49
dscasseljoeoshawa: Sort of, yeah. It's a new UI. But going back to the old UI is pretty easy.00:51
dscasselAnd none of the applications change.00:51
dscassel(any more than usual)00:51
joeoshawayeah actually the old one is still there i think if you don't have a 3d card aparently its just ubuntu00:52
joeoshawagnome00:52
joeoshawadon't know how true that is but apparently its just a layer on gnome itsself00:52
dscasselThat's not true.  It's a reimplementation of the shell.00:57
dscasselGTK is still there. And the gnome apps...00:58
dscasselAnd it's built on compiz, which is controlling most of your window stuff right now if your machine can handle it.00:58
dscasselBut it's a new UI. The old panels are gone.00:59
dscassel11.10 will probably see the fallback to gnome2 for 3d environments go away.00:59
dscasselThat hasn't been officially announced yet, but they're working on a 2d version of Unity.00:59
dscasselNon-3d environments, I mean.01:00
dscasselBy 12.04 they want to have all the wrinkles smoothed out.01:01
dscasselSince that's LTS.01:01
joeoshawacool so what was the last lts 10.401:21
dscasselYeah.02:42
dscasselEvery two years.02:42
joeoshawaubuntu 10.04 never would install on three machines for me two dells and my custom the custom was due to it not seeing or accessing my hdd properly dunno why it was different from 9.10 to 10.04 as for the dells well dell what do you want lol02:59
joeoshawa10.10 sees and uses hdd fine just like 9.1002:59
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BluesKajHi folks14:40
crondello14:48
BobJonkmanHi all - just want to send out a reminder of Ubuntu User Days https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDays , with lectures and such on irc://irc.freenode.net/#ubuntu-classroom and questions and discussion on irc://irc.freenode.net/#ubuntu-classroom-chat17:18
BobJonkmanIt's pretty quiet in there now, though17:19
dscasselThanks, Bob. :)17:21
dscasselI'd forgotten.17:21
* dscassel doesn't have time to join in, however. ^^;17:21
BluesKaji find those clas room chats so closely censord in terms of so called advisors fielding questions or ignoring them to "protect Mark Shuttleworth form negativity that the converstaion bcomes so bland and scripted looking it's ajoke.17:24
* BluesKaj doesn't mean to be negative , but that's been my experience so far monitoring those classrooms17:26
BluesKajdunno why canonical doesn't just put out a press release instead with the latest developments soi far17:28
hakimsheriffhey dscassel  you there?17:51
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dscasselhakimsheriff: Yup, I'm here.19:01
dscasselWhat's up?19:01
dscasselTomas: Hey. :)19:01
dscasseltxwikinger: You around?19:02
txwikingerdscassel: Yes19:03
dscasselAwesome.19:04
dscasseltxwikinger: meet Tomas :)19:04
dscasselI still can't find the SSH IP for the server.19:04
BobJonkmanImpromptu IRC meeting?19:05
dscasselTomas, what do you need? You you just need admin access to drupal or do you need access to the server?19:05
dscasselBobJonkman: Sort of. Tomas offered to help with the website.19:05
dscasselTomas: ie., what do you want to fix first?19:06
* dscassel will intermittently disappear to put away groceries and things...19:07
txwikingerdscassel: I think you currently still need to use the old domain19:07
txwikingerI guess I should change that19:07
dscasselubuntu-ca.jankeconsulting.ca?19:08
hakimsheriffhey dscassel19:08
hakimsheriffI stillm cant access the website19:08
hakimsheriffi cant log in19:08
dscasselhakimsheriff: meet txwikinger :D19:08
hakimsheriffit says i need to verify my e-mail19:08
txwikingerhakimsheriff: You can't login into what?19:09
hakimsheriffthe website19:09
txwikingerAh.. in the web-interface19:09
hakimsheriffit says i need to validate my e-,ail address19:09
txwikingerhow do you try to login?19:10
txwikingerDid anybody setup an account for you?19:10
dscasselYeah, me19:11
hakimsheriffda log in button on the left sidebar at the top19:11
dscasselSort of'19:11
dscasselI don't know what I'm doing19:11
dscasselI turned off the "only admins can create accounts" thing and had hakimsheriff and BobJonkman log in.19:11
dscasselThen I turned it back on again.19:12
hakimsheriffit never worked for me19:12
hakimsheriffeven when you turend it off19:12
dscasselhakimsheriff: You have an account now, it's just not validated, I guess.19:12
hakimsheriffhow do I validate it19:12
dscasselI know almost nothing about drupal. :D19:13
hakimsheriffit said it sent me a conformation e-mail that I never reiceived19:13
BobJonkmanStill doesn't work for me.  I get OpenID redirects, then return to the error message "You must validate your email address for this account before logging in via OpenID"19:14
hakimsheriffsame here19:14
dscasselConsistency is good.19:14
txwikingerAh.. yes.. I had the same problem19:14
txwikingerit is because it expects the canonical openid account to be entered in a particular way19:15
txwikingerdscassel: btw... the ssh is still the same19:15
txwikingerI just tested it19:15
txwikingerit works with both, the old and the new domain19:15
* txwikinger is trying to remember how the openid needs to be furnished19:15
dscasselIs it on a non-standard port?19:16
txwikingeryes19:16
txwikingerbut that has always been like that19:16
txwikingerI don't want the brute-force attacks that are done on the standard port all the time19:17
* hakimsheriff is in a hurry, but is waiting patiently without saying anything19:17
dscasselSensible19:17
txwikingerok.. the openid format is username.openidprovider.com19:19
txwikingerusername is the launchpad username19:19
txwikingerthe rest I have to look up19:20
hakimsheriffbtw.. you someone should fix the link to the irc channel on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CanadianTeam/Meetings19:21
hakimsheriffit brings to the wrong channel19:21
dscasselhakimsheriff: what is the right URL, do you know?19:23
hakimsheriffnot really19:23
dscasselI don't have anything on my system that takes irc: urls.19:23
dscasselThe webchat link works...19:24
hakimsheriffthe irc link brings me to #%23ubuntu-ca19:24
txwikingerdscassel: I forgot. You did that as well before me. DOn't you remember the ubuntu openid servername?19:25
txwikingerhakimsheriff: the entry in openid in your user account looks correct to me19:26
hakimsherifflet me try again19:26
hakimsheriffsame problem19:26
hakimsheriffwhen i log in with my open id it only takes my username and not my e-mail19:27
hakimsheriffthe first time i loged it asked me for my e-mail so i entered it19:27
hakimsheriffit then said that it sent a conformation link to my e-mail that i never reiceived19:27
dscasseltxwikinger: I have no idea what I did when we were setting up. I only vaguely recall I had problems logging in initially.19:28
txwikingerWell.. it took me a long time to get openid fixed for my account19:28
dscasselI don't think it was email validation problems, but I don't remember well enough to say for certain.19:28
txwikingerhakimsheriff: I think the confirmation e-mail might be blocked so you should not receive it19:29
txwikingerhakimsheriff: your account is active so you don't need to confirm anything19:30
dscasselThe email validation thing might be because they created their own accounts.19:30
hakimsheriffIt says: You must validate your email address for this account before logging in via OpenID19:31
txwikingerok.. let me try to send the message again19:32
txwikingerhakimsheriff: try again.. I removed the confirmation requirement in the settings19:33
hakimsheriffIt WORKS!!!!!!19:35
hakimsheriff!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!19:35
txwikingerok19:35
txwikingerdscassel: The problem was the checkbox where you switched between users can register and only admins can create accounts19:35
txwikingerbecause we don't allow login accept of openid login from launchpad19:36
Tomasdscassel: hey how are you19:40
dscasseltxwikinger: Ah.19:42
dscasselTomas: Hi. :)19:42
dscasselTomas: Meet txwikinger  :)19:42
hakimsheriffan i allowed to creae content on the website19:42
Tomasnice too meet u:)19:42
Tomasguys19:43
dscasselTomas: So, like I was saying, what do you need? Just drupal website access or server access?19:43
dscasselMore to the point, what do you want to do (first)?19:43
dscasselhakimsheriff: You should be able to, yeah.19:44
txwikingerhi Tomas19:44
Tomashi txwikinger...19:44
Tomaswell want to fix that page what's up side bar...19:44
Tomaslooks like there are some issues with the layout....css...19:45
dscasselTomas: Yeah, true.19:45
hakimsheriffwe should change the maverick countdown to natty19:46
Tomasand mess with the Planet page as well the bubbles are kind of....well going nuts19:46
txwikingerWell.. that is part of the theming19:46
txwikingerhakimsheriff: the countdown is done by a module19:47
txwikingerit should change by itself when the new one exists19:47
hakimsheriffcool19:47
hakimsheriffwhere did you get the module?19:47
Tomasare you guys intersted by putting some slider on top on the main page...that it looks the same as ubuntu.com19:47
Tomasinterested put on main page some slider...19:48
txwikingerTomas: How much experience with drupal theming do you have?19:48
Tomaslike ubuntu.com19:48
TomasI'm not doing it for living19:48
Tomasbut converting any psd layout to drupal is not a problem....19:49
Tomascan't really do customization of modules....19:49
Tomasbut all regarding design and css layouts etc is not a problem19:49
txwikingerTomas: I think the best way to do what you are talking about is to take the current theme and make a new one based on that19:49
txwikingerthis is best done on a test site, not the live site19:50
txwikingerwhen you have done it, we can put in the new theme19:50
Tomasyes exactly thats what I was thinking that maybe u are able to give me the theme what you have right now....19:50
* txwikinger wonders however, if it would make sense to make a drupal7 theme instead of putting work into drupal619:51
Tomasand then I add the stuff19:51
Tomassend it to you and...19:51
txwikingerTomas: no problem, I can do that19:51
Tomasi would think so...19:51
Tomasits the latest one....I dont know how many holes it has...:)19:51
Tomasbut I didn't have any problems with it so far...19:52
txwikingerI haven't tested out all the modules we have yet, but I don't think there is a big problem19:52
txwikingerI intend to push the site to drupal7 as soon as possible19:52
txwikingerhowever, I need a drupal7 theme for that19:52
txwikingerand I did not have the time for it yet (even I do drupal professionally)19:53
* txwikinger need to move the kubuntu-de.org server the next 3 weeks19:53
Tomasthats the problem when you do it professionally you have other problems that you have to deal with....19:53
txwikingerWell.. I have too many FLOSS projects that also need some care19:54
Tomastxwikinger: sound like lot of funn :)19:55
Tomasfor you at least...19:55
txwikingerhehe.. well... too much work not enough time19:55
txwikingerSo I would really appreciate if you could at least start with the drupal7 theme19:55
Tomassure no problem...19:56
Tomasill put it somewhere on my server so you can see whats the progress....ill send you link....when I'll put it online19:56
Tomason my server i mean19:56
Tomasso if you can send me the theme files...19:57
Tomasplz19:57
* dscassel is heading to kwartzlab. Latrz!19:57
txwikingerTomas: ok.. where shall I send them20:00
txwikingerdscassel: What is going on there?20:00
Tomastry to email it to me tomas.lichy@gmail.com....how big is it?20:00
txwikingerlet me have a look20:00
txwikingerTomas: uncompressed 840k20:02
Tomasthat should go through gmail...try it ;)20:03
txwikinger350k20:04
txwikingerTomas: sent!20:07
Tomasgot it :)20:07
Tomasthank you20:09
Tomastxwikinger.....I'll work on it and then let you know when I'll make some bigger progress on it...email you etc.20:10
txwikingerok20:14
txwikingerif I don't answer email, ping me here, Tomas20:15
Tomasok i will20:18
Tomasthx20:18

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