[00:49] <dscassel> Back!
[00:51] <dscassel> joeoshawa: Sort of, yeah. It's a new UI. But going back to the old UI is pretty easy.
[00:51] <dscassel> And none of the applications change.
[00:51] <dscassel> (any more than usual)
[00:52] <joeoshawa> yeah actually the old one is still there i think if you don't have a 3d card aparently its just ubuntu
[00:52] <joeoshawa> gnome
[00:52] <joeoshawa> don't know how true that is but apparently its just a layer on gnome itsself
[00:57] <dscassel> That's not true.  It's a reimplementation of the shell.
[00:58] <dscassel> GTK is still there. And the gnome apps...
[00:58] <dscassel> And it's built on compiz, which is controlling most of your window stuff right now if your machine can handle it.
[00:59] <dscassel> But it's a new UI. The old panels are gone.
[00:59] <dscassel> 11.10 will probably see the fallback to gnome2 for 3d environments go away.
[00:59] <dscassel> That hasn't been officially announced yet, but they're working on a 2d version of Unity.
[01:00] <dscassel> Non-3d environments, I mean.
[01:01] <dscassel> By 12.04 they want to have all the wrinkles smoothed out.
[01:01] <dscassel> Since that's LTS.
[01:21] <joeoshawa> cool so what was the last lts 10.4
[02:42] <dscassel> Yeah.
[02:42] <dscassel> Every two years.
[02:59] <joeoshawa> ubuntu 10.04 never would install on three machines for me two dells and my custom the custom was due to it not seeing or accessing my hdd properly dunno why it was different from 9.10 to 10.04 as for the dells well dell what do you want lol
[02:59] <joeoshawa> 10.10 sees and uses hdd fine just like 9.10
[14:40] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[14:48] <crond> ello
[17:18] <BobJonkman> Hi all - just want to send out a reminder of Ubuntu User Days https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDays , with lectures and such on irc://irc.freenode.net/#ubuntu-classroom and questions and discussion on irc://irc.freenode.net/#ubuntu-classroom-chat
[17:19] <BobJonkman> It's pretty quiet in there now, though
[17:21] <dscassel> Thanks, Bob. :)
[17:21] <dscassel> I'd forgotten.
[17:21]  * dscassel doesn't have time to join in, however. ^^;
[17:24] <BluesKaj> i find those clas room chats so closely censord in terms of so called advisors fielding questions or ignoring them to "protect Mark Shuttleworth form negativity that the converstaion bcomes so bland and scripted looking it's ajoke.
[17:26]  * BluesKaj doesn't mean to be negative , but that's been my experience so far monitoring those classrooms
[17:28] <BluesKaj> dunno why canonical doesn't just put out a press release instead with the latest developments soi far
[17:51] <hakimsheriff> hey dscassel  you there?
[19:01] <dscassel> hakimsheriff: Yup, I'm here.
[19:01] <dscassel> What's up?
[19:01] <dscassel> Tomas: Hey. :)
[19:02] <dscassel> txwikinger: You around?
[19:03] <txwikinger> dscassel: Yes
[19:04] <dscassel> Awesome.
[19:04] <dscassel> txwikinger: meet Tomas :)
[19:04] <dscassel> I still can't find the SSH IP for the server.
[19:05] <BobJonkman> Impromptu IRC meeting?
[19:05] <dscassel> Tomas, what do you need? You you just need admin access to drupal or do you need access to the server?
[19:05] <dscassel> BobJonkman: Sort of. Tomas offered to help with the website.
[19:06] <dscassel> Tomas: ie., what do you want to fix first?
[19:07]  * dscassel will intermittently disappear to put away groceries and things...
[19:07] <txwikinger> dscassel: I think you currently still need to use the old domain
[19:07] <txwikinger> I guess I should change that
[19:08] <dscassel> ubuntu-ca.jankeconsulting.ca?
[19:08] <hakimsheriff> hey dscassel
[19:08] <hakimsheriff> I stillm cant access the website
[19:08] <hakimsheriff> i cant log in
[19:08] <dscassel> hakimsheriff: meet txwikinger :D
[19:08] <hakimsheriff> it says i need to verify my e-mail
[19:09] <txwikinger> hakimsheriff: You can't login into what?
[19:09] <hakimsheriff> the website
[19:09] <txwikinger> Ah.. in the web-interface
[19:09] <hakimsheriff> it says i need to validate my e-,ail address
[19:10] <txwikinger> how do you try to login?
[19:10] <txwikinger> Did anybody setup an account for you?
[19:11] <dscassel> Yeah, me
[19:11] <hakimsheriff> da log in button on the left sidebar at the top
[19:11] <dscassel> Sort of'
[19:11] <dscassel> I don't know what I'm doing
[19:11] <dscassel> I turned off the "only admins can create accounts" thing and had hakimsheriff and BobJonkman log in.
[19:12] <dscassel> Then I turned it back on again.
[19:12] <hakimsheriff> it never worked for me
[19:12] <hakimsheriff> even when you turend it off
[19:12] <dscassel> hakimsheriff: You have an account now, it's just not validated, I guess.
[19:12] <hakimsheriff> how do I validate it
[19:13] <dscassel> I know almost nothing about drupal. :D
[19:13] <hakimsheriff> it said it sent me a conformation e-mail that I never reiceived
[19:14] <BobJonkman> Still doesn't work for me.  I get OpenID redirects, then return to the error message "You must validate your email address for this account before logging in via OpenID"
[19:14] <hakimsheriff> same here
[19:14] <dscassel> Consistency is good.
[19:14] <txwikinger> Ah.. yes.. I had the same problem
[19:15] <txwikinger> it is because it expects the canonical openid account to be entered in a particular way
[19:15] <txwikinger> dscassel: btw... the ssh is still the same
[19:15] <txwikinger> I just tested it
[19:15] <txwikinger> it works with both, the old and the new domain
[19:15]  * txwikinger is trying to remember how the openid needs to be furnished
[19:16] <dscassel> Is it on a non-standard port?
[19:16] <txwikinger> yes
[19:16] <txwikinger> but that has always been like that
[19:17] <txwikinger> I don't want the brute-force attacks that are done on the standard port all the time
[19:17]  * hakimsheriff is in a hurry, but is waiting patiently without saying anything
[19:17] <dscassel> Sensible
[19:19] <txwikinger> ok.. the openid format is username.openidprovider.com
[19:19] <txwikinger> username is the launchpad username
[19:20] <txwikinger> the rest I have to look up
[19:21] <hakimsheriff> btw.. you someone should fix the link to the irc channel on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CanadianTeam/Meetings
[19:21] <hakimsheriff> it brings to the wrong channel
[19:23] <dscassel> hakimsheriff: what is the right URL, do you know?
[19:23] <hakimsheriff> not really
[19:23] <dscassel> I don't have anything on my system that takes irc: urls.
[19:24] <dscassel> The webchat link works...
[19:24] <hakimsheriff> the irc link brings me to #%23ubuntu-ca
[19:25] <txwikinger> dscassel: I forgot. You did that as well before me. DOn't you remember the ubuntu openid servername?
[19:26] <txwikinger> hakimsheriff: the entry in openid in your user account looks correct to me
[19:26] <hakimsheriff> let me try again
[19:26] <hakimsheriff> same problem
[19:27] <hakimsheriff> when i log in with my open id it only takes my username and not my e-mail
[19:27] <hakimsheriff> the first time i loged it asked me for my e-mail so i entered it
[19:27] <hakimsheriff> it then said that it sent a conformation link to my e-mail that i never reiceived
[19:28] <dscassel> txwikinger: I have no idea what I did when we were setting up. I only vaguely recall I had problems logging in initially.
[19:28] <txwikinger> Well.. it took me a long time to get openid fixed for my account
[19:28] <dscassel> I don't think it was email validation problems, but I don't remember well enough to say for certain.
[19:29] <txwikinger> hakimsheriff: I think the confirmation e-mail might be blocked so you should not receive it
[19:30] <txwikinger> hakimsheriff: your account is active so you don't need to confirm anything
[19:30] <dscassel> The email validation thing might be because they created their own accounts.
[19:31] <hakimsheriff> It says: You must validate your email address for this account before logging in via OpenID
[19:32] <txwikinger> ok.. let me try to send the message again
[19:33] <txwikinger> hakimsheriff: try again.. I removed the confirmation requirement in the settings
[19:35] <hakimsheriff> It WORKS!!!!!!
[19:35] <hakimsheriff> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[19:35] <txwikinger> ok
[19:35] <txwikinger> dscassel: The problem was the checkbox where you switched between users can register and only admins can create accounts
[19:36] <txwikinger> because we don't allow login accept of openid login from launchpad
[19:40] <Tomas> dscassel: hey how are you
[19:42] <dscassel> txwikinger: Ah.
[19:42] <dscassel> Tomas: Hi. :)
[19:42] <dscassel> Tomas: Meet txwikinger  :)
[19:42] <hakimsheriff> an i allowed to creae content on the website
[19:42] <Tomas> nice too meet u:)
[19:43] <Tomas> guys
[19:43] <dscassel> Tomas: So, like I was saying, what do you need? Just drupal website access or server access?
[19:43] <dscassel> More to the point, what do you want to do (first)?
[19:44] <dscassel> hakimsheriff: You should be able to, yeah.
[19:44] <txwikinger> hi Tomas
[19:44] <Tomas> hi txwikinger...
[19:44] <Tomas> well want to fix that page what's up side bar...
[19:45] <Tomas> looks like there are some issues with the layout....css...
[19:45] <dscassel> Tomas: Yeah, true.
[19:46] <hakimsheriff> we should change the maverick countdown to natty
[19:46] <Tomas> and mess with the Planet page as well the bubbles are kind of....well going nuts
[19:46] <txwikinger> Well.. that is part of the theming
[19:47] <txwikinger> hakimsheriff: the countdown is done by a module
[19:47] <txwikinger> it should change by itself when the new one exists
[19:47] <hakimsheriff> cool
[19:47] <hakimsheriff> where did you get the module?
[19:47] <Tomas> are you guys intersted by putting some slider on top on the main page...that it looks the same as ubuntu.com
[19:48] <Tomas> interested put on main page some slider...
[19:48] <txwikinger> Tomas: How much experience with drupal theming do you have?
[19:48] <Tomas> like ubuntu.com
[19:48] <Tomas> I'm not doing it for living
[19:49] <Tomas> but converting any psd layout to drupal is not a problem....
[19:49] <Tomas> can't really do customization of modules....
[19:49] <Tomas> but all regarding design and css layouts etc is not a problem
[19:49] <txwikinger> Tomas: I think the best way to do what you are talking about is to take the current theme and make a new one based on that
[19:50] <txwikinger> this is best done on a test site, not the live site
[19:50] <txwikinger> when you have done it, we can put in the new theme
[19:50] <Tomas> yes exactly thats what I was thinking that maybe u are able to give me the theme what you have right now....
[19:51]  * txwikinger wonders however, if it would make sense to make a drupal7 theme instead of putting work into drupal6
[19:51] <Tomas> and then I add the stuff
[19:51] <Tomas> send it to you and...
[19:51] <txwikinger> Tomas: no problem, I can do that
[19:51] <Tomas> i would think so...
[19:51] <Tomas> its the latest one....I dont know how many holes it has...:)
[19:52] <Tomas> but I didn't have any problems with it so far...
[19:52] <txwikinger> I haven't tested out all the modules we have yet, but I don't think there is a big problem
[19:52] <txwikinger> I intend to push the site to drupal7 as soon as possible
[19:52] <txwikinger> however, I need a drupal7 theme for that
[19:53] <txwikinger> and I did not have the time for it yet (even I do drupal professionally)
[19:53]  * txwikinger need to move the kubuntu-de.org server the next 3 weeks
[19:53] <Tomas> thats the problem when you do it professionally you have other problems that you have to deal with....
[19:54] <txwikinger> Well.. I have too many FLOSS projects that also need some care
[19:55] <Tomas> txwikinger: sound like lot of funn :)
[19:55] <Tomas> for you at least...
[19:55] <txwikinger> hehe.. well... too much work not enough time
[19:55] <txwikinger> So I would really appreciate if you could at least start with the drupal7 theme
[19:56] <Tomas> sure no problem...
[19:56] <Tomas> ill put it somewhere on my server so you can see whats the progress....ill send you link....when I'll put it online
[19:56] <Tomas> on my server i mean
[19:57] <Tomas> so if you can send me the theme files...
[19:57] <Tomas> plz
[19:57]  * dscassel is heading to kwartzlab. Latrz!
[20:00] <txwikinger> Tomas: ok.. where shall I send them
[20:00] <txwikinger> dscassel: What is going on there?
[20:00] <Tomas> try to email it to me tomas.lichy@gmail.com....how big is it?
[20:00] <txwikinger> let me have a look
[20:02] <txwikinger> Tomas: uncompressed 840k
[20:03] <Tomas> that should go through gmail...try it ;)
[20:04] <txwikinger> 350k
[20:07] <txwikinger> Tomas: sent!
[20:07] <Tomas> got it :)
[20:09] <Tomas> thank you
[20:10] <Tomas> txwikinger.....I'll work on it and then let you know when I'll make some bigger progress on it...email you etc.
[20:14] <txwikinger> ok
[20:15] <txwikinger> if I don't answer email, ping me here, Tomas
[20:18] <Tomas> ok i will
[20:18] <Tomas> thx