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arch_is_awesomeping17:00
Mkaysipong17:00
arch_is_awesomeAlthough I already wrote it earlier... ping (Mkaysi already ponged)17:01
shadeslayer\o17:02
hakimsheriffis da meeting starting?17:02
arch_is_awesomeYes.17:03
serfusseems like we are not too much, missing some key people, but we'll be fine :)17:03
phillw#help17:04
nisshhshall we start then?17:04
arch_is_awesomeYes.17:04
* MH0 sneaks in17:04
MH0Hia17:04
nisshhok17:04
* arch_is_awesome is Laughing17:04
nisshh#startmeeting17:04
MootBotMeeting started at 11:04. The chair is nisshh.17:04
MootBotCommands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE]17:04
nisshhcan i get a headcount to see who is here then please17:04
serfuso/17:04
Mkaysio/17:04
* phillw here17:04
* arch_is_awesome is ponging17:05
nisshharch_is_awesome, ?17:05
MH0o/17:05
nisshhcool17:05
nisshhok, first topic17:05
MH0arch_is_awesome: Say "o/"17:05
skfino/17:05
shadeslayero/17:05
arch_is_awesomeOops, I just usually use ping pong okay17:05
arch_is_awesomeo/17:05
nisshh[TOPIC]Project(s) Status & Completion Dates17:05
MootBotNew Topic: Project(s) Status & Completion Dates17:05
nisshhnow, i dont know who is actually doing projects, anyone?17:06
shadeslayeri'll be in and out of this channel .... so just ping me if you want something from me :P17:06
nisshhshadeslayer, ok17:06
Kaiao/17:06
hakimsheriffwait i will be back17:06
MH0I can do a few projects17:06
MH0Just need the ideas :)17:06
nisshhserfus, do you know?17:06
arch_is_awesomeI might reboot my computer at some point, I am having problems with peripherals17:07
MH0I can work on that youth.ubnut.com17:07
serfusi think AndrewMC was about to start mentoring17:07
nisshhwas he17:07
nisshhok17:07
MH0serfus: Its okay17:07
skfinnisshh: I have a project about getting planet stable and not to break every day, estimated completion date: never17:07
phillwnisshh: the guy who was going to do the website has had to resign, there is a replacement available, but the council would need to discuss that as it does them access to my server.17:07
nisshhskfin, ok17:07
nisshhphillw, yep, we can talk about that later in -council then17:07
MH0phillw: Can we pijng in -council after meeting? :)17:08
nisshhok, shall we move on then?17:08
MH0nisshh: Yup17:08
nisshhok17:08
phillwof course, the agreement last meeting is that I only give root access to one person.17:08
nisshh[TOPIC]New Members of the Council17:09
MootBotNew Topic: New Members of the Council17:09
nisshhok17:09
nisshhas far as i know, the only changes here17:09
nisshhare two new members17:09
arch_is_awesomeI have never gone to a meeting before.17:09
MH0arch_is_awesome: Stay cool :)17:09
nisshhme and MH017:09
MH0:)17:09
nisshhMH0, michaelh?17:10
MH0nisshh: Yeah Im michealH17:10
nisshhok17:10
serfusi'm quite new as well17:10
nisshhand jasono also got op in -youth17:10
nisshhok, and serfus :)17:10
arch_is_awesomeQuick Question - Does launchpad keep track of members?17:10
MH0So If you need me or ryan I have no issues with people PMing me17:10
MH0arch_is_awesome: Yes17:10
MH0arch_is_awesome: Verified members are added17:11
nisshhok, moving along17:11
arch_is_awesomeOne sec. what is the launchpad page?17:11
serfushttps://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-youth17:11
nisshhhttp://launchpad.net/ubuntu-youth17:11
MootBotLINK received:  http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-youth17:11
nisshhi think17:11
arch_is_awesomehttps://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-youth ?17:11
arch_is_awesomeAhh.17:11
nisshhthats the one yes17:11
nisshhforgot the tilde17:12
serfusarch_is_awesome, seems like you are already a part of the team17:12
arch_is_awesomeFor some reason I am on the list....17:12
arch_is_awesomeThat is what I meant.17:12
nisshharch_is_awesome, i think i accidently approved you the other day, before we got a chance to vote you in :)17:12
arch_is_awesomeMember since: 2010-02-1617:13
hakimsheriffso lets vote now17:13
nisshhoh ok17:13
nisshhok17:13
skfinIs AndrewMC around?17:14
nisshh[VOTE] Membership of arch_is_awesome17:14
MootBotPlease vote on:  Membership of arch_is_awesome.17:14
MootBotPublic votes can be registered by saying +1/-1/+0 in the channel, private votes by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0  to MootBot17:14
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serfusskfin, no he isn't17:14
serfus+117:14
MootBot+1 received from serfus. 1 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 117:14
Mkaysi+117:14
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Muscovy+117:14
MootBot+1 received from Muscovy. 3 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 317:14
nisshh+117:14
MootBot+1 received from nisshh. 4 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 417:14
hakimsheriff+117:14
MootBot+1 received from hakimsheriff. 5 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 517:14
Kaia+117:14
MootBot+1 received from Kaia. 6 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 617:14
skfin+017:14
MootBotAbstention received from skfin. 6 for, 0 against. 1 have abstained. Count is now 617:14
nisshh[ENDVOTE]17:14
MootBotFinal result is 6 for, 0 against. 1 abstained. Total: 617:14
nisshhok17:14
nisshhwelcome to the team arch_is_awesome17:15
serfusarch_is_awesome, welcome aboard!17:15
skfinI dont know enough about him to vote for :)17:15
skfinWelcome anyways!17:15
hakimsheriffWelcome!!!17:15
arch_is_awesomeThanks.17:15
nisshharch_is_awesome, maybe you could tell us a bit about yourself then>17:15
nisshh?17:15
arch_is_awesomeOkay then,17:15
nisshhjust quickly17:15
arch_is_awesomeI usually use chakra or ubuntu linux, I know python and pyqt17:16
skfin+1 :)17:16
arch_is_awesomeAlso I am 12, live in jacksonville, FL USA17:16
phillwarch_is_awesome: having a wiki page is always handy :)17:16
nisshhnice17:16
nisshh+1 to what phillw said17:16
arch_is_awesomeI am in 6th Grade17:16
arch_is_awesomeOkay, all done (for now)17:16
Kaiaarch_is_awesome: you have a launchpad page don't you?17:17
arch_is_awesomehttps://launchpad.net/~stephenmac717:17
Kaia^link to arch_is_awesome17:17
nisshhphillw, do you know anything about the new team process/etc? (the next topic)17:17
nisshhphillw, ?17:18
phillwnisshh: we are recruiting council members, that way there should always be enough around for meetings.17:18
hakimsheriffi want to be 117:18
nisshhok17:18
nisshhhakimsheriff, we offer, not the other way around :)17:18
hakimsheriffokay, sorry17:19
nisshhok, do we have any other new members that need voting on?17:19
phillwthey must have signed the CoC and have a wiki page for them to be considered.17:19
arch_is_awesomeI have seen Zach's wiki page, I am not so sure I can write that much about myself17:20
serfusarch_is_awesome, i will help you, don't worry :)17:20
nisshharch_is_awesome, it doesnt need to be that extensive17:20
nisshhok, moving along17:20
Mkaysiarch_is_awesome: My wikipage is better example. It's so small. http://wiki.ubuntu.com/mkaysi17:20
* pedro3005 appears17:20
arch_is_awesomeI'll take a look,17:20
nisshh[TOPIC]Slightly New Team Process/Ideas17:20
MootBotNew Topic: Slightly New Team Process/Ideas17:20
nisshhok17:21
phillwarch_is_awesome: you ought to try https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw17:21
phillwlol17:21
nisshhso apart from the council recruiting new members17:21
nisshhdoes anyone have any idea's for the team?17:21
arch_is_awesomehttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw is quite extensive :)17:21
nisshhMkaysi, arch_is_awesome, phillw, serfus, ?17:21
hakimsheriffhelping people getting more involved with ubuntu teams17:22
serfusi know about the mentoring plan, tough not enough17:22
nisshhyes17:22
MH0Oop.. Havent been watching17:22
nisshhserfus, we must ask zach about that :)17:22
pedro3005well, if I may, I was discussing that in the channel recently. It seems that there's too much attention to the infrastructure of the team (i.e. bureaucracy) and not much attention to actually doing stuff17:22
arch_is_awesomenisshh: Thinking...17:22
skfinI will be away now on, please ping me if you guys need me->17:22
arch_is_awesomepedro3005, I agree, that is what I was about to say... :)17:22
nisshhpedro3005, yes, the mentoring system will change that soon, although ideas are welcome17:22
phillwI'm pretty full with padawans at the moment, I'd like jasono to get involved to further his knowledge.17:23
nisshhthats cool17:23
serfusi just took arch_is_awesome as my "padawan"17:23
arch_is_awesomeAbout the mentoring system, how exactly is that going to work? Email, Jabber, or what?17:23
nisshharch_is_awesome, tbh, im not sure, its something zkreisse has been working on, i have yet to ask him about it17:24
MkaysiEmail, Jabber or IRC.17:24
nisshhi assume that IRC/email will be used17:24
serfusarch_is_awesome, i will catch you up after the meeting17:24
KaiaCan i be your padawan serfus?17:24
arch_is_awesomequery?17:24
arch_is_awesomeor in some mentoring channel?17:24
arch_is_awesome(If it is IRC)17:24
serfusnot a channel i don't think so17:24
nisshharch_is_awesome, i would say, just in -youth17:24
phillwarch_is_awesome: I finally nagged the UBT council into submission and bioterror is the 1st mentor (I quickly sold his slave to him :P )17:24
nisshhanyone have anything else to say before we move on?17:25
serfusguess not :P17:26
nisshhok17:26
arch_is_awesomeYes, the mentoring, what is the plan (meaning how is it going to work)17:26
phillwnisshh: can you post up the UBT link onto your wiki area?17:26
nisshharch_is_awesome, like i said before, i dont know the details, i will ask zach as soon as i see him though :)17:26
nisshhphillw, what link?17:26
arch_is_awesomeAre the metors going to see what the users know and then build on that?17:26
arch_is_awesomenisshh okay17:26
serfusthere is no a complete plan17:27
serfusyet17:27
arch_is_awesomeOkay, moving on...17:27
nisshharch_is_awesome, basically, as most mentoring systems work, each mentor will be assigned one or more mentee's and then they can sort of guide them17:27
nisshhthats all i know17:27
nisshhrighto17:27
arch_is_awesomeOkay then, that is enough.17:27
nisshh[TOPIC]Any concerns, questions, or ideas? Please, bring them up!17:28
MootBotNew Topic: Any concerns, questions, or ideas? Please, bring them up!17:28
nisshhok, if anyone has any questions, go ahead17:28
MH0nisshh: Right17:28
MkaysiI know that padawans are called as slaves, but they are only joking (but I think that they aren't).17:28
MH0I want to say something17:28
nisshhMH0, go ahead17:28
phillwnisshh: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam/17:28
nisshhphillw, what about it?17:28
MH0Earlier there was a spam attack outside UY, and I think us (the council) needs to defibne what to do as being as some spam links may not be nice to see17:29
MH0We need to think of a policy to deine such a thing17:29
arch_is_awesomeI agree17:29
MH0I think AndrewMC, had one, thoguh17:29
nisshhbut if this attack happened in channels outside of the youth teams, i dont see it as our issue?17:29
MkaysiMH0: evilMichealH +1 supybot with badwords (with URLs) +217:29
nisshhzkriesse, hey17:30
nisshhyou late17:30
nisshhyour*17:30
zkriesseI know17:30
zkriesseInternet troubles17:30
nisshhzkriesse, we are on the last topic :)17:30
Mkaysinisshh: #ubuntu-stack was attacked by spamming.17:30
zkriessenisshh: Who's chairing17:30
MH0zkriesse: Can you +Vv arch_is_awesome In UY17:30
nisshhMkaysi, right, which is not our channel, so i fail to see what it has to do with us17:30
MH0zkriesse: nisshh17:30
phillwMH0: there has been a discussion on the doc email list about spam attacks, the best way is for those who know wiki to subscribe to the pages, that way they get alerted for every change and can see the changes.17:30
Kaiahey zkriesse17:30
serfusi don't think we should involve bans with other channels17:30
nisshhagreed17:31
MH0serfus: But spam links may not be very Touth freindly esp. from spambots17:31
MH0*youth17:31
nisshhMH0, we only need to moderate spam in the youth channels17:31
arch_is_awesomeagreed17:31
phillwMH0: there are so many of us admin to go around!17:31
MkaysiIf spambots are attacking #ubuntu-stack why they couldn't attack #ubuntu-youth ?17:31
serfussure, but we have no sign that he will attack our channel17:32
nisshhoutside of that, its not something the youth team can really control17:32
zkriesseThey haven't, it's not our channel, if they do we'll do something17:32
nisshhexactly17:32
MH0Okies17:32
zkriesseBut until they do we have our own channel to maintain...plus we haven't been ASKED to help that channel17:32
MH0Just a idea :)17:32
hakimsheriffi agree with zkriesse17:32
MkaysiIDEA: Setup supybot with BadWords and add spam URL:s as badwords.17:33
MH0I was talking about a poliy for spams outside UY to be banned inslide UY incase spambots had bad links17:33
nisshhMkaysi, we arent putting your bot in -youth, its way too spammy17:33
serfusi too agree with zkriesse and nisshh17:33
arch_is_awesomeI agree with serfus17:33
nisshhok17:34
Mkaysinisshh: My bot would cause problems, and I am not talking about it.17:34
nisshhheh17:34
nisshhok17:34
nisshhanyone have any other questions?17:34
Mkaysinisshh: Ubot4 is supybot? Couldn't it do that? (BadWords is comes by default in supybot)17:34
nisshhzkriesse, im charing btw17:34
zkriesseOk, while a team opinion is good on such a matter on spambots in other channels, ultimately somthing of that nature would be a council decision17:34
nisshhchairing*17:34
zkriessenisshh: So i've noticed...I appreciate you taking charge17:35
nisshhMkaysi, im not familiar with the bots17:35
nisshhzkriesse, yeah, it was either me or serfus really17:35
MH0nisshh: And me? :P17:35
serfusMH0, you were not here as well17:35
nisshhoh, or MH0 :)17:35
serfuswhen we have started17:35
nisshhMH0, but you werent her at the time :)17:36
zkriesseReally who chairs the meeting for UY is council members17:36
zkriesseNot just anyone17:36
nisshhyeah17:36
serfusanyhows let's continue17:36
nisshhok, so if no one else has anything to add, i will end the meeting?17:36
zkriesseHold on17:37
zkriesseSo all topics have been covered?17:37
arch_is_awesomezkriesse: Yes17:37
Kaiai have nothiing to add17:37
zkriesseOk then17:37
nisshhzkriesse, well, as much as could be without you here, yes17:37
zkriesseWell then let's go through it a bit17:38
zkriesseWe've still got half an hour17:38
nisshhsure17:38
serfusokay17:38
zkriesseOk, back to first topic if you please nisshh17:38
arch_is_awesomeNeed to leave for a sec.17:38
nisshhok17:38
zkriesse#project status(s)17:39
nisshh[TOPIC]Project(s) Status & Completion Dates17:39
MootBotNew Topic: Project(s) Status & Completion Dates17:39
serfuszkriesse, we didn't have much to say about topic 1 and 217:39
nisshhwhat serfus said17:39
zkriesseWell, I kinda wanted to know...how are they progressing17:39
zkriesseOk then, Topic 3 is one I do need to talk about17:39
nisshhi dont even remember who had projects last meeting17:39
MH0zkriesse: I have a new proposition for a project17:39
zkriesseMH0: We'll take care of that in UY17:39
nisshhmaybe we need a projects page on the wiki zkriesse?17:40
MH0In UYC? Its concerning the Website17:40
zkriessenisshh: Indeed you're very right on that17:40
nisshhok17:40
zkriessenisshh: Topic 3 if you please17:40
nisshh[ACTION] nisshh to setup a project summary page on the wiki17:40
MootBotACTION received:  nisshh to setup a project summary page on the wiki17:40
nisshhsure17:40
nisshh[TOPIC]New Membership Process Discussion17:41
MootBotNew Topic: New Membership Process Discussion17:41
nisshhzkriesse, go ahead17:41
zkriesseOk, due to the UY Council growing in size, we will be having a slightly different membership process17:41
MH0Mentorship at last? :)17:41
nisshhMkaysi, serfus, arch_is_awesome, you all listening?17:42
zkriesseFor a while it was simply, "Apply, check the users lp and wiki page(s) if applicable, and then choose an experienced mentor to lead said applicant"17:42
serfussure17:42
zkriesseWell, skip last part17:42
zkriesseJust find em, get them a wiki page, they're in17:42
nisshhyep17:42
nisshhso whats changing?17:42
hakimsheriffdats good17:43
* Mkaysi is listening.17:43
zkriesseBut, since we are getting a sizable council, we should be able to find a few more good experienced folks who are willing to help lead/mentor the inexperienced or those who wish to be mentored in a particular subject17:43
zkriesseNot necissarily will it be the Council doing the leading but us and a few others who ask/and are approved to do so17:43
zkriesseThat make any sense?17:44
serfusso we will get the mentoring project more sorted out17:44
serfusthat's good17:44
zkriesseYes indeed serfus17:44
* hakimsheriff agree with zkriesse completly17:44
nisshhzkriesse, i think once the process gets worked out, a mentoring page in the wiki would be good17:44
arch_is_awesomeGoogle just sent a new computer here, I forgot about it.17:45
arch_is_awesomeI will come to the next meeting.17:45
zkriessenisshh: I was gonna work on that..if you'd like to collaborate with me on that and the project page that'd be awesome17:45
nisshhsure17:45
arch_is_awesomeJust need to get this to work, curiosity is killing me,17:45
serfusarch_is_awesome, sure, i'll update you17:45
nisshhzkriesse, have anything else to add?17:46
zkriessearch_is_awesome: Don't worry, there will be logs17:46
zkriessenisshh: For that topic? Nadah17:46
nisshhok17:46
nisshhany other topic?17:46
zkriesseAnd that somewhat merges into topic four so we're good!17:46
nisshhok17:46
zkriesseIf nobody has anything else to add feel free to end the meeting nisshh17:46
nisshhill end the meeting then17:46
nisshhyep17:46
nisshh#endmeeting17:46
MootBotMeeting finished at 11:46.17:46
zkriesseThanks all for coming, and I appreciate the amazing participation17:47
hakimsheriffbye everyone17:47
serfuswhat zkriesse said :P17:47
nisshhi will post the link to the logs to the mailing list for everyone17:47
hakimsheriffokay thx17:47
zkriesseTen minutes to meeting18:50
zkriesseOk, before it starts can I get a show of hands? Who's here for the Ubuntu Beginners Team (BT) Wiki Focus Group Meeting18:58
MH0Im Lurking18:58
zkriesseOk18:59
zkriesseAnyone else?18:59
zkriesse[startmeeting]18:59
zkriesse#startmeeting18:59
MootBotMeeting started at 12:59. The chair is zkriesse.18:59
MootBotCommands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE]18:59
zkriesseOk, welcome to the BT WIki Focus Group Meeting18:59
zkriesseBeen a while since we've had one of these I know but that is changing18:59
zkriesseIf the wiki will cooperate I shall have a meeting agenda lol19:00
* MH0 hopes the wiki aint playing up19:00
* MH0 gets the boot :P19:00
UndiFineDplenty of bugs in the wiki19:01
zkriesse[Link] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam/FocusGroups/Docs#Meetings19:01
MootBotLINK received:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam/FocusGroups/Docs#Meetings19:01
zkriesseThere's the agenda for the meeting19:01
zkriesseOk, first topic!19:01
zkriesse[TOPIC] Topic 1 - Start of meeting, show of hands etc.19:01
MootBotNew Topic:  Topic 1 - Start of meeting, show of hands etc.19:01
zkriesseOk, so....welcome to the meeting, glad you're here, if yo could just toss out your name and say "Im here!" or something that'd be great!19:02
MH0Im Here o/19:02
UndiFineDsomething that is great19:02
zkriesseUndiFineD: Joker....19:02
zkriessecollinp: You here for the meeting too?19:03
collinpSomewhat.19:03
zkriesseYay!19:03
zkriesseOk, well...moving on then19:03
zkriesse[TOPIC] Topic 2 - Time to get the team back on track...19:03
MootBotNew Topic:  Topic 2 - Time to get the team back on track...19:03
zkriesseAlright, as of late the BT has been going through some restructuring so I've been loathe to make any sudden movements which could possibly upset everything...but now that the boat is stable well, time to get stuff moving again!19:04
zkriesseSince we're almost into Spring (At least we dang well better be...too cold for me :P) I'd like for us to start getting prepared for the Summer of Documentation project19:05
zkriesseIt's a great project, one which is fun, and awesome as it helps do a few things19:05
zkriesseHelps get the Wiki cleaned up and maintained, AND helps those who are interesed in wiki/doc work to learn more about the wiki and how the innards of it works19:06
zkriesseAny suggestions for a jump start to the wiki fg?19:06
MH0Hmm... So for the Summer of oc project19:07
MH0What will happen, all the unedited pages get deleted or?19:07
zkriesseWe will be working more closely with the Ubuntu Documentation Team this year, helping them train new recruits, taking on some of the ones they need to have trained, and overall easing of their workload19:07
zkriesseMH0: Good question, the Summer of Documentation Project is basically the cleaning up/editing/and yes, deleting of old, forgotten pages on the help.ubuntu.com/community and wiki.ubuntu.com pages19:08
MH0Can we start now or is there a perticular date for it?19:08
zkriesseWell the "Summer of Doc" implies that it starts in the summer but the cleaning and maintaining of the wiki is a constant battle19:09
zkriesseSo while there isn't a "Start Date" perce, there is a big "party" for the start of the project19:09
zkriesseUsually on the first day of summer or that19:09
MH0What priority pages will require cleanup?19:09
zkriesseThats another good question19:10
zkriesseIf you take a look at, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Tag19:10
zkriesseYou'll see that it lists a huge amount of "tags" that can be put on the help.ubuntu.com/community pages19:11
zkriesseIf you don't know what the whole "Tag" thing is don't worry19:11
zkriesseThat is easily explained and learned...19:11
MH0I know Tagging :)19:11
zkriesseOn each page you can tag a page, and based upon the tag it will require less or more attention19:11
MH0So the most tagged + main pages are priority?19:12
zkriesseThis is also where I kinda introduced a bug system for this whole thing19:12
zkriesseIt can depend19:12
zkriesseBut usually yes, tagged pages have been truly recognized as "Needing Cleaning" or etc19:12
phillwzkriesse:19:13
zkriessephillw: ?19:13
phillwthis may come as a flood, but from the email list...19:13
phillw> Over the last month or so i have been using the Recent Pages page19:13
phillwhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecentChanges?max_days=7 19:13
phillw<cut>19:13
phillwHi19:13
phillwIf is a persistant problem you can evaluate to introduce a TexCha [1] or19:13
phillwadded in wikiconfig.py more range ip in hosts_deny = [ ]19:13
phillwIn italian wiki we exclude some chinese range ip.19:13
zkriesse!pastebin | phillw19:14
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zkriesseOk, when I mentioned "Bug System" i'm sure some of you were like "Bugs???? For a wiki page? Seriously?"19:14
phillwit is about vandalised pages, I'm sorry that I can not be more active, I'm still on duty shift as my bar staff has a poorly son.19:15
zkriessephillw: It's fine phillw19:15
zkriessephillw: Appreciate the notice19:15
zkriesseWell yes, I was and am serious...I introduced a bug system on the BT Wiki LP page last year for tracking who edits what pages for the SOD (Summer of Documentation) project19:15
zkriesseIf you go to Well yes, I was and am serious...I intro19:15
zkriessedangit19:16
MH0to bad there want a request for adminship becuase I would clearly block vandals ect.19:16
zkriesseMH0: it takes much time and progress to become a Wiki Admin19:16
MH0Yeah19:16
zkriessehttps://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu-beginners-wiki-sod19:16
MH0I fully understand that19:16
zkriesseIf you look at that page you'll see some bugs that are listed19:16
zkriesseThose are old but a very good example of what I'm speaking about19:16
MH0Okies19:17
MH0So when would new bugs apper?19:18
MH0*appear19:18
zkriesseWhen you edit a page on the wiki for the SoD project I usually ask that you go to that page and file a bug...List the Wiki/Community Help page URL, the nature of the "Bug" (General Cleanup, complete overhaul, spell checking/edits, etc) and if it's been triaged, or if it's in progress19:18
MH0So as we look around19:19
MH0We can tag pages for SOD?19:19
zkriesseIf that doesn't make sense, please...ask and I'll explain in more detail19:19
zkriesseYes19:19
zkriesseIf it's an edit for the Summer of Documentation project do that19:19
zkriesseOtherwise do not19:19
zkriesseThis is just for the SoD project alone19:19
MH0zkriesse: It didnt make sence19:19
phillwzkriesse: you will getting two extra people for the next SOD, possibly 3 :)19:19
zkriessephillw: Rad my man19:19
MH0What pages are under sod?19:20
zkriesseAll wiki/community help pages19:20
phillwany page that needs updating19:20
zkriesseOk, lemme say it this way19:20
MH0oh so all help.ubuntu.com?19:20
zkriessehelp.ubuntu.com/COMMUNITY19:20
zkriesseand wiki.ubuntu.com19:21
MH0Yeah19:21
MH0Duh I amskign too many Q's19:21
MH0So when will the switchover to the new theme take?19:21
zkriesseWhen the SoD project starts, and say, Bobby wants to edit help.ubuntu.com/community/examplepage for the SoD project, he would file a bug on the https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu-beginners-wiki-sod page, list the page URL, the nature of the bug/edit, and then list if it's been triaged, work in progress, etc19:22
MH0on help.ubuntu.com19:22
zkriesseThat is a question which I have no answer atm19:22
MH0Triaged = Ready for SoD to work on?19:22
zkriesseTriaged is it's been taken care of19:23
zkriesseOr is being worked on19:23
phillwit may be worth mentioning that currently the italics is not working on the new scheme19:23
MH0pI noticed19:23
MH0phillw: ^^19:24
phillwthe bug has been assigned to AlanBell19:24
zkriesseOr you can do "In Progress, Fix Committed, Confirmed, Invalid, Incomplete, Fix Released"19:24
zkriesseThose are the main ones I request ya use19:24
UndiFineDso we need more tagging, bugfiling and fixups19:24
zkriesseBut if in doubt contact me or someone else who's done one19:24
zkriesseUndiFineD: BTW I got your request to join, pm me after meeting and we'll discuss it19:24
UndiFineD:)19:25
MH0https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PhpBB2 << This will be Outdated?19:25
MH0Its now PhpBB3 isnt it?19:25
zkriesseWell I imagine that some use PhpBB2 still so it's not current19:26
phillwMH0: some people still run it, but phpbb3 is the current version.19:26
zkriesseBut neither is it outdated19:26
MH0Marked as Cleanup?19:26
zkriesseIt would just be good to leave the page/check it for errors, and put an notice on the page either at the top or the bottom that phpBB3 is the current version and that it's page can be found at "foo"19:27
phillwMH0: the page would simply need a mention that there is now phpbb3 and a link.19:27
zkriesseAfter that it'd be fine to leave19:28
MH0zkriesse: Need to learn these TAAAGGGS off by heart :P19:28
zkriesseJust bookmark the page19:28
zkriesseAs each tag links to a separate page with all the pages that have been tagged with that particular tag19:28
MH0Okies19:29
MH0Got the 2 wiki ninjas with me ;D19:29
MH0So, Anything else I would need to do as per SoD?19:29
zkriesseAnd if i page has been marked for removal OR you think it should be removed, don't do ANYTHING without first consulting phillw or myself19:29
zkriesseMH0: Just the usual after that, stay safe and curteous in editing as it's other peoples work that you're changing, make sure you edit correctly and always follow wiki guidelines19:30
phillw+1 I promised Phil Bull that I will retain a copy on my system and my server.19:30
zkriesseAnd always, ALWAYS talk to me or phillw if yo have a question19:31
MH0It says before adding Tags I need to consult Doc team?19:31
zkriesseYes..you always should....or you can ask me or phillw and we'll find out for you19:31
zkriesseWhich is why we hang out in #ubuntu-doc19:31
phillwMH0: yes you do need to do so.19:31
MH0 /joinign19:31
MH0Gah! keyboard19:31
zkriessephillw: BTW can I have you join #ubuntu-beginners-wiki ?19:32
zkriesseThat's pretty much topic 219:32
zkriesseBefore I jump onto topic 3 any questions?19:32
MH0It only took 20 mins *chuckle*19:32
phillwzkriesse: ....... yeah I will, but there is only so much of me to around the teams.19:32
zkriessephillw: I just like to have yo there is all19:33
zkriesse[TOPIC] Topic - 3 Whos still around?19:34
MootBotNew Topic:  Topic - 3 Whos still around?19:34
UndiFineDo/19:34
MH0o/ Im new, In a way19:34
zkriesseI figured i'd ask...is anyone around from last year in the team?19:34
zkriesseMH0: Yes...you're very new19:34
phillwzkriesse: done, and added to autojoin19:34
zkriessephillw: Ty my good man19:35
UndiFineDand for me the same as phillw is having19:35
zkriesseOk....i gues on to topic four then19:36
zkriesse[TOPIC] Topic 4 - Ideas/Suggestions and Q&A19:36
MootBotNew Topic:  Topic 4 - Ideas/Suggestions and Q&A19:36
zkriesseI think the topic speaks for itself, any ideas? Bring em up...any suggestions? We buy those too...and we always sell Q&A19:37
zkriesseAnything? Anything at all?19:38
UndiFineDno you were quite clear :)19:40
zkriesseWell then I guess I shall end it the meeting19:40
zkriesseThanks all for showing, I appreciate you coming and all the questions...afterwards ya can find me in #ubuntu-beginners-wiki for wiki/doc related matters19:40
zkriesse#endmeeting19:41
MootBotMeeting finished at 13:41.19:41
* MH0 slacks19:43
MH0Meh, getting ready for Tour Meeting19:44
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