[15:02] <Omega> Meeting meeting meeting!
[15:13] <MH0> Its not that time yet?
[15:13] <MH0> :P
[15:39] <Omega> :<
[15:51] <MH0> heh, 2 meeting s for me this evening
[15:52] <MH0> 20:00 GMT
[15:52] <MH0> and I have a UY one at 17:00
[16:38] <MH0> &hi | Muscovy
[16:38] <MH0> !hi | Muscovy
[16:38] <TourBot> Muscovy: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu-tour! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines . Enjoy your stay!
[16:39] <MH0> I get all confused over bots :P
[16:39] <MH0> 4 is enough
[16:41] <Muscovy> Hello.
[16:56] <Silasle> MH0: Are you michealh?
[17:04] <MH0> Yeah
[17:04] <MH0> 3 letter nicks are awesome
[17:04] <MH0> and they have their benifits
[17:04] <MH0> Silasle: ^^
[17:05] <Omega> Hey Muscovy
[17:05] <Muscovy> Hello.
[17:05] <MH0> 3 hpurs
[17:05] <MH0> till meeting
[17:06] <MH0> Muscovy: Meeitn in-meeting for you
[17:06] <MH0> >:|
[19:57] <Muscovy> I may be a few minutes late for our meeting.
[20:11] <samuel> Is the meeting held on this channel?
[20:15] <Muscovy> I believe.
[20:16] <Muscovy> Sorry about the lack of details, samuel, MichealH declared an impromptu meeting.
[20:17] <samuel> ok
[20:18] <Muscovy> The meeting is 40 minutes from now, I think.
[20:19]  * MH0 sneaks in
[20:19] <MH0> Meeting on?
[20:19] <MH0> Okies
[20:19] <MH0> It should be this hour but, I am busy
[20:19] <MH0> So gimme a sec
[20:49] <MH0> Right, so 10mins
[20:54] <UndiFineD> MH0: when will you rename to "Face of Bo"?
[20:54] <MH0> Hm?
[20:55] <MH0> There are benifits to a three character nick :P
[20:55] <MH0> So no tabbing
[20:55] <MH0> No tab mistakes ect.
[20:55] <MH0> Its nice
[20:55] <MH0> Its a cool nick, tooo
[20:55] <UndiFineD> m<tab><tab><tab><tab><tab><tab><tab><tab><tab><tab><tab><tab><tab>
[20:55] <MH0> :P
[20:55] <MH0> Like I just say mh0
[20:55] <MH0> Done
[20:56] <UndiFineD> but you should watch dr who
[20:56] <UndiFineD> and rename to "Face of Bo"?
[20:57] <MH0> Hi U<tab>
[20:57] <MH0> :P
[20:57] <MH0> Why? Im not old :P
[20:58] <UndiFineD> Micheal Harker becomes Face of Bo
[20:58] <MH0> Huh? Its Capt'n Jack that does in DrWho
[20:58] <MH0> I have sussed it :P
[20:59] <MH0> Right, we ready to start?
[20:59] <MH0> #startmeeting
[20:59] <meetingology> Meeting started Sat Jan 29 20:59:12 2011 UTC.  The chair is MH0. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell.
[20:59] <meetingology> Useful Commands: #topic #action #link #idea #voters #vote #chair #action #agreed #help #info #endmeeting.
[20:59] <MH0> Muscovy: Omega UndiFineD AndrewMC & everyone else Ping
[20:59] <MH0> #topic Please Mark your Presence with a "o/"
[20:59] <meetingology> TOPIC: Please Mark your Presence with a "o/"
[20:59] <MH0> o/
[21:00] <samuel> o/
[21:00] <MH0> Hi samuel :)
[21:00] <UndiFineD> right i have other meetings to attend to
[21:00] <MH0> Okies UndiFineD
[21:00] <UndiFineD> ping me when needed
[21:00] <MH0> Do pop in :)
[21:00] <MH0> Muscovy: Here?
[21:00] <MH0> We need at least 2 admins here
[21:00] <MH0> tbh
[21:00] <MH0> :)
[21:02] <MH0> Omega: PIng?
[21:02] <MH0> Right, Lets just get started :)
[21:02] <MH0> Okay so...
[21:02] <Muscovy> I'm here!
[21:02] <MH0> #topic Ubuntu Tour Website
[21:02] <meetingology> TOPIC: Ubuntu Tour Website
[21:02] <MH0> Muscovy: :)
[21:03] <MH0> I have made a progress since we last met up
[21:03] <MH0> I will be getting Dynamacy in but for the sake of It here is the dummy site:
[21:03] <Muscovy> I can apply the new style whenever, so just let me know when you've "finished" the beta site. :D
[21:03] <MH0> #link http://www.ubuntutour.org/beta/
[21:04] <MH0> So, We need to think of features
[21:04] <MH0> I have a Developers Blog and Maybe a forum?
[21:04] <Muscovy> Hmm.
[21:04] <Muscovy> A blog could be useful.
[21:05] <MH0> Yeah
[21:05] <Muscovy> I'm not sure if a forum would, because most of its functionality would be covered in the blog and LP bug reports.
[21:05] <MH0> Like a Little Update of progress here at UT
[21:05] <MH0> (If I do refer to UT UT == Ubuntu Tour)
[21:05] <Muscovy> Gotcha.
[21:05] <MH0> Muscovy: Yup
[21:06] <MH0> I have TourBot here and Maybe I will have the RSS implemneted
[21:06] <MH0> If my Blog system does RSS (It should)
[21:06] <MH0> Right
[21:06] <Muscovy> When do you think the general design will be done by?
[21:07] <MH0> I think at least End of Feb
[21:07] <MH0> I want it done by March 3rd
[21:07] <Muscovy> Alright.
[21:07] <MH0> It would be a nice acheivement to get it done before my birthday and release on the 3rd :)
[21:07] <Muscovy> I'm not great with CSS and little details, but let me know if I can help.
[21:07] <MH0> (3/3 = MH0's bday)
[21:07] <MH0> Okies
[21:07] <MH0> #topic IRC Bot
[21:07] <meetingology> TOPIC: IRC Bot
[21:08] <MH0> Any features you think the bot can have?
[21:08] <MH0> At the moment There are these plugins in it
[21:08] <MH0> @list
[21:08] <TourBot> MH0: Admin, Channel, Config, Encyclopedia, Misc, Owner, User, and Web
[21:08] <meetingology> MH0: Admin, Channel, Config, MeetBot, Misc, Owner, and User
[21:08] <MH0> meetingology: Not You!
[21:08] <meetingology> MH0: Error: "Not" is not a valid command.
[21:08] <Muscovy> The main thing I'd like to see in a bot is bug report info from LP, like Ubottu.
[21:08] <MH0> Muscovy: Okies That seems a good Idea :)
[21:09] <Muscovy> I like just being able to say bug 1234 or whatever and get info on it.
[21:09] <MH0> At the moment it acts a little like ubottu anyway
[21:09] <MH0> !hi | Muscovy
[21:09] <TourBot> Muscovy: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu-tour! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines . Enjoy your stay!
[21:09] <MH0> !botsnack
[21:09] <TourBot> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[21:09] <MH0> Feel free to play anytime
[21:10] <Muscovy> What's the bot written in?
[21:10] <MH0> Python
[21:10] <MH0> Its a Sypybot
[21:10] <MH0> *Supybot
[21:11] <Muscovy> Next topic?
[21:11] <MH0> Muscovy: Any Topics you want to add?
[21:11] <Muscovy> Hmm.
[21:11] <Muscovy> I suppose I can start with the home page.
[21:11] <MH0> Oh sec
[21:12] <MH0> Instead of ubot we have Tourbot
[21:12] <MH0> This brings a massivae advantage to us, too
[21:12] <Muscovy> We've been tossing around the idea of having some sort of home/menu page.
[21:12] <MH0> And I may put it in for a official ubuntu bot
[21:12] <MH0> So yeah
[21:12] <MH0> #topic home Screen in UT
[21:12] <meetingology> TOPIC: home Screen in UT
[21:12] <Muscovy> Here's the wiki page I made: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuTour/StartPage
[21:12] <TourBot> Title: UbuntuTour/StartPage - Ubuntu Wiki (at wiki.ubuntu.com)
[21:13] <Muscovy> So we can have a place to plan.
[21:13] <MH0> Okay, HTML, CSS People
[21:13] <MH0> And we need Madness to add a functionality for the screen
[21:14] <Muscovy> Thinking of our head coder, someone suggested the other day that we need support for larger images,
[21:14] <MH0> Like SVG?
[21:14] <Muscovy> which we can't use at the moment because of scaling.
[21:14] <MH0> So we need SVG Images?
[21:14] <Muscovy> I don't think we could svg screenshots though.
[21:15] <samuel> no - they're vectors
[21:15] <Muscovy> The problem is that there's not a way to show images full sized.
[21:15] <Muscovy> You know how when you click on them you get a larger preview?
[21:16] <MH0> Yeah
[21:16] <samuel> On the current build?
[21:16] <Muscovy> I think there should be a button there to open it in the image viewer, so it can be full sized.
[21:16] <samuel> I think that would somewhat ruin the experience
[21:17] <MH0> Muscovy: I will sory of +0 It seems good, but It could make the tour slower, Not good forsomeone in a rush
[21:17] <Muscovy> Here's an example of where image size is a problem: http://i.imgur.com/OQYZz.png
[21:17] <Muscovy> I think that page needs a "full size" button by the close button or something.
[21:17] <MH0> I see,
[21:17] <Muscovy> In that image, you can't read the page.
[21:17] <MH0> Its all pixelated
[21:17] <MH0> Yeah
[21:18] <MH0> Were gonna have fun with MadnessRed
[21:18] <MH0> ;D
[21:18] <Muscovy> Yeah, webkit doesn't anti-aliase.
[21:18] <Muscovy> Only other coding thing I can think of, is it would be _nice_ if images using percentage for size don't go over 100%.
[21:19] <Muscovy> That makes scaling images by percent feasible.
[21:19] <MH0> Yeah
[21:19] <Muscovy> RIght now we can't, because it'll look horrid if you have a big enough screen.
[21:20] <Muscovy> But the home page is a coding priority.
[21:20] <Muscovy> MadnessRed and anyone else brave can probbaly start the framework long before we decide what's on the page.
[21:20] <Muscovy> I need to make another mockup or two for different concepts.
[21:20] <MH0> So, Lets set some action Items
[21:21] <MH0> #topic Actions
[21:21] <meetingology> TOPIC: Actions
[21:21] <MH0> #action MichealH to finish the website soon
[21:21] <meetingology> ACTION: MichealH to finish the website soon
[21:21] <Muscovy> I'll bug report percentage scaling and needing a way t see full sized images.
[21:21] <MH0> #action IRCBot to be improved a little
[21:21] <meetingology> ACTION: IRCBot to be improved a little
[21:21] <Muscovy> We should send out an email about the home page.
[21:22] <MH0> #action MadnessRed to Do Homepage and Fix some bugs That Muscovy will file
[21:22] <meetingology> ACTION: MadnessRed to Do Homepage and Fix some bugs That Muscovy will file
[21:22] <MH0> #topic Wrapping up
[21:22] <meetingology> TOPIC: Wrapping up
[21:22] <MH0> So... Anything else?
[21:22] <Muscovy> I believe that's it for present.
[21:23] <MH0> So, Were done?
[21:23] <MH0> Okies
[21:23] <MH0> Going
[21:23] <MH0> Going
[21:23] <MH0> Gone
[21:23] <MH0> #endmeeting
[21:23] <meetingology> Meeting ended Sat Jan 29 21:23:25 2011 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell . (v 0.1.4)
[21:23] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://mootbot.libertus.co.uk/ubuntu-tour/2011/ubuntu-tour.2011-01-29-20.59.moin.txt
[21:23] <TourBot> Title: Alan Bell - Ubuntu Wiki (at wiki.ubuntu.com)
[23:21] <samuel> Is this planned for release before 11.04 in April? We seem to have a lot of articles/screenshots of 10.04 which will soon be outdated - especially with the switch to Unity?
[23:22] <samuel> Sorry - I meant 10.10
[23:24] <UndiFineD> samuel: do not worry about the screenshots, we are much more concerned of content
[23:24] <Muscovy> Yes.
[23:24] <Muscovy> The UI and art is also liable to change a lot.
[23:25] <samuel> UndiFineD: I meant content as well - everything which involves the desktop and software centre etc will likely be outdated
[23:26] <Muscovy> I see your point, but same issue - rapid change.
[23:27] <UndiFineD> samuel: it is easy enough to set up a machine running an alpha release of unity, but, every is waiting for the UI freeze
[23:27] <Muscovy> Unity is a larger issue than individual app changes.
[23:27] <UndiFineD> everyone*
[23:27] <Muscovy> We'll manage, since there's only 1 long chapter on it.
[23:27] <samuel> I suppose things like Banshee can be covered - and Libreoffice
[23:27] <Muscovy> A lot of Unity details liek dash and people are still in the mockup stage.
[23:27] <samuel> they wont change a lot
[23:27] <UndiFineD> 2011/03/24
[23:27] <UndiFineD> UI Freeze
[23:27] <Muscovy> Yes, we could certainly start those now.
[23:28] <UndiFineD> that is very near 11.04
[23:28] <UndiFineD> so until that time focus on the completeness of current content
[23:29] <samuel> Will GTK be used in Unity?
[23:29] <UndiFineD> yes
[23:29] <Muscovy> Yes.
[23:29] <samuel> Good - I was half way through an article on themes and got worried :D
[23:29] <Muscovy> Unity is a "shell" which means it's basically just top level UI stuff that changes.
[23:48] <Omega> Also MadnessRed already added support for the startpage
[23:50] <Muscovy> :D
[23:58] <Omega> Someone just needs to make one