[00:06] hi trying to share the directory in 10.10 running on vmware player under XP host. [00:06] i can ping the XP host from ubuntu and access the internet though vmware NAT setup. [00:06] but can not ping from the XP to ubuntu. ? is there any firewall by default. how to change that [01:15] hmmm, I appear to be getting DOS and Port Scans from freenode :/ [01:15] anyone else getting this? [01:16] or at least I'm guessing 85.190.0.3 is freenode... [01:18] HazRPG: how do you figure it's a DoS? [01:23] Azelphur: My router logged and reported it as such [01:24] logged like 10 times [01:24] routers are generally stupid [01:24] my old one would continually log me playing TF2 as a DoS attack [01:24] my internet also went down not long after it logged those [01:24] it's probably just freenode scanning for open proxies, a lot of networks do that [01:25] yeah I know freenode does that - I remember reading it somewhere on their website under the terms of use or something like that [01:27] :) [01:27] * HazRPG always reads the fine print ;) [01:28] I was just checking to make sure it was a false negative on my router's part [01:28] might see if I can set up a rule to ignore that IP as a DoS [01:30] I really have a sudden urge to wipe my server... I blame hak5 for that lol [01:30] o.O [01:31] By the face I'm guessing you don't know what hak5 is then xD [01:31] hak5.org <== mega awesome sauce of a web-show [01:31] it's some tech blog? [01:31] sort of ... but in video form ;) [01:32] I've learned so much from these guys ever since they started up in 2005 [01:33] I highly recommend season 6-7. [01:33] Think there's a torrent on their forum to grab the older episodes [01:33] cool :) [01:35] new stuff so far is CES conference stuff mainly, which has some awesome new gadgets n stuff coming out - but the thing that's really got me going is the cool project they've got going - making some a VPS of your own - and making a cluster of them too [01:35] [thus the reason I want to format my server haha] [01:37] That, and the fact that I REALLY want to get my hands dirty with some ubuntu server stuff [01:37] or debian - whichever [01:37] HazRPG: I already have a big ubuntu server :) [01:38] Azelphur: nice :P [01:38] HazRPG: http://game.azelphur.com/forum/low-down-new-server [01:39] poser ;/ [01:41] wow [01:42] :D [01:42] do your players help fund it? [01:42] HazRPG: yea [01:43] I get a bit off adsense too. [01:43] I mean I know that's a pretty decent price for that kind of server, but its not exactly pocket change :P [01:43] ah cool [01:43] HazRPG: you can see donation stats on the left [01:43] they include adsense too [01:43] cool [01:44] pretty impressive use of drupal there I must say :) [01:44] ty :D [01:44] theme hand coded? [01:44] HazRPG: I quite like the server status thing in the top left too [01:44] nope, the theme is pixture_reloaded [01:45] but the donations and server status thing is custom code [01:45] yeah I was going to say I've not seen those two before [01:45] ^^, [01:45] :) [01:45] the game servers have a plugin that updates their status in MySQL as it changes [01:45] and the website just pulls from that [01:45] how long does stuff from boffer take to arrive azel? [01:46] hamitron: dunno, like a week? [01:46] cool [01:46] :) [01:46] I got the pack of skype keyboards [01:46] hehe [01:47] boffer? [01:47] HazRPG: I have my own mini qdb/bash.org too in drupal :P [01:47] heh nice :P [01:48] never really messed around with drupal much, feel inspired to do so for my next rendition of my portfolio site [01:48] it's a great tool :) [01:48] my current one became more of a code template then an actual portfolio site :P [01:48] http://www.hazrpg.co.uk/ [01:49] :) [01:49] should forward you to /port_mine/ [01:49] yea [01:49] since / is my original one and it looks really dated now [01:50] for you to really get a feel of the template you'd have to see the proper php side of the code - however I also tried to make a nicely structured html side too [01:51] that way it could /potentially/ fit into any website [01:51] css-wise I mean [01:54] hehe :) [01:57] wow, I started that site in 2008 xD [01:58] it was used for this project http://www.hazrpg.co.uk/bat/ and they were quite happy with it, however hasn't been merged to the main site yet [02:00] :D [02:06] cos it was a "project" for uni to work for a company for free :/ [02:06] it was me an 3 other dudes [02:06] I was doing the site, someone else did designs and another grabbed and formatted the content [02:06] I had the hard job basically - but well I'm good at it, or at least I'd say I was [02:07] and well, the content guy failed the year, so he's re-doing it [02:07] and well he's decided to continue doing the same project :/ [02:07] which I think is a dumb move [02:07] since he's not a coder, by any means [02:07] but well whatever [02:08] it will, hopefully, replace this: http://borderairtraining.com/ [02:08] which, sadly, looks a mess [02:09] I think I talk to much sometimes [02:09] too* [02:09] * HazRPG sits quietly [02:13] :) [02:14] hamitron: sup dude :) [02:16] just chilling [02:16] literally [02:16] cold again :/ [02:21] same [02:21] can't wait for spring [07:39] can someone help me figure out why I can not access my home netwrok http server [07:40] from external [07:58] morning all [07:58] matelot: sounds like something you need to set up on your router [07:59] AlanBell I did port-forwarding, let me show [08:00] http running: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/328610/ [08:03] port forwardiong: http://i.imgur.com/3gAQ6.jpg [08:14] matelot: I think that your http server is bound to localhost [08:15] AlanBell oh really , how to fix that ? [08:15] you have given it a port, but not an IP address [08:15] iI can see the page locally like : http://192.168.1.102:8080/ [08:16] that's where I port-forwarding to (192.168.1.102) [08:18] oh ok, maybe it is working [08:19] so you can see it from another machine on your local network [08:19] the router settings look ok (although you are currently forwarding all ports from 80 to 8080 to that machine) [08:20] how are you testing it from the outside? [08:42] AlanBell: sorry just back now - I test from my workplace PC via RDP [08:50] fair enough [08:52] that should work [09:17] Morning all - quiet in here isn't it? [09:22] BOO [09:27] Aloha [09:29] would never have put you as an in the night garden fan czajkowski [09:29] thats it [09:29] iggle piggle and the tombelyboos and so on [09:29] more amusing is the mickey mouse and his tool kit game [09:30] yes [09:30] dora the explorer is also good, but a bit advanced for a 2 year old [09:30] ¡Hola! [09:35] :s [09:38] OUCH MY LEGS [09:38] (http://goo.gl/maps/BjXC) [10:08] hello! [10:12] Im using the touchpad of my laptop.why do i feel the mouse goes faster horizontal than vertical? [10:13] because there are more pixels horizontally and it's compensating? [10:14] also, humans are biased -- up/down things always seem smaller than left/right ones :) [10:14] :) [10:15] i dunno...it just feels wierd...it looks that whrn i go left/right goes faster...i dont have this feeling on windows or mac [10:15] I don't know what it could be [10:19] btw,i'm loving being a linux guy finally :P [10:19] nice to hear [10:20] morning all! [10:20] * MartijnVdS upgrades laptop to natty [10:20] popey: morning! [10:23] Morning [10:26] Morning all [10:26] everyone's waking up :) [10:26] Heh [10:27] Is there a way to tell how much video memory is being used? [10:28] Or more specifically, how much is available [10:28] DJones: good question :) [10:29] I have no idea how to look that up [10:33] One updates finish, I'll try installing sysinfo & hardinfo [10:34] s/One/Once [10:34] DJones,this might help u http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1398776 [10:35] MartijnVdS: Use lspci to find you device then lspci -v -s 00:02.0 where the number represents the address of your video device [10:36] Hmmh, Memory at fecf0000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K] [10:40] DJones,sry,i just "googled" that,the link does not answer [10:40] gabrieluk: No worries, I've found one that might help, but I think the answer is the 4K [10:40] actually, maybe not [10:44] Is there a link with cool clt commands that i can "play" around to learn ubuntu?not a beginners guide,just a list with cool and usefull commands [10:45] DJones: This is a nice one grep: -i ram /var/log/Xorg.0.log; grep -i mem /var/log/Xorg.0.log [10:47] Thingymebob: Thanks, 131072 KB [10:49] look what i found,it might be usefull http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1543783 [10:53] gabrieluk: "clt" commands, was that meant to be "cli" commands? [10:54] lol,yes and no.clt ,control line terminal [10:55] cli,control line interface,right? [10:58] !cli [10:58] The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE). Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal or type in it: man intro [10:58] Maybe something useful in that [11:05] thanks,i dont know where i heard clt..lol [11:07] !clt [11:08] who da heck told me clt...o myy [11:27] gabrieluk: http://www.commandlinefu.com/ [11:38] morning all. [11:40] bbc news have killed click again, for other stuff, :( [11:45] popey: there's a fun little rollercoaster near the spawn point now :) === nik0 is now known as niko [13:03] Aloha [13:04] afternoonings czajkowski [13:09] hiya czajkowski [13:28] good afternoon ubunteros [13:28] afternoonings jacobw [13:29] hey hey [13:29] afternoonings HazRPG [13:29] brobostigon: o/ :) [13:29] guys quick question is there something similar to nero i can download? [13:30] brassero burns CDs and things [13:30] Brasero is included in the default install [13:30] Gringo: for ubuntu? Use brassero [13:30] depensd how similar you're after. There is a pay-for Nero for Linux. Else K3B is quite close, and brasero less so but easier [13:30] HazRPG: :) o/ [13:30] K3B involves a whole bunch of additional libraries that you'd probably rather not need to install [13:31] brassero anygood? already in ubunto or i need to apt-get? [13:31] I'd give Brasero a go first, seen as its in the default install it should meet the needs of most users [13:31] already there, but I think it goes by "CD burning" or something in the menu [13:31] Gringo: already in there dude ;) [13:31] tried it but it broze on me [13:31] i put wreritable disc dragged few mp3's and broze up [13:31] froze you mean? [13:32] yes, sorry [13:33] says starting recording but my dvd drive aint doing nothing [13:34] give it a moment, it'll start burning - are you making an audio CD? [13:34] if it is, it'll be normalising audio/etc [13:34] i dragged few mp3,s to it, itsre-writeble disc === cferthorney is now known as cferthorney|afk [13:36] hmm, not sure - never tried a used a rewritable [13:36] says burning audio cd, and starting to record under the the bar that goes across but the bar is stuck in the middle [13:36] help.ubuntu.com/community might be worth a look. [13:37] any other program [13:37] Gringo: which version of ubuntu are you using? [13:37] latest [13:37] 10.10 ? [13:37] 11.04? [13:38] 10.04 (lucid) [13:39] 64bit [13:39] Gringo: the reason brobostigon asks is because 10.10 is the last version released and 11.04 is the latest but still in alpha stages [13:40] Gringo: have you downloaded all the lastest updates/patches? [13:40] however 10.04 was the last LTS i believe, [13:40] brobostigon: yeah :) [13:40] Gringo: LTS = Long Term Support [13:40] ah thanx, i downloaded it few days ago using wibi so i thought i had latest, how do i get 1010? [13:41] Gringo: you can either download an ISO for the latest from: http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/download [13:41] what happens with the short term support? [13:42] Gringo: the way ubuntu works is, a new version is released every 6 months [13:42] which is where you get the version numbers "." [13:43] so 10.10 = 2010 October [13:43] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases [13:43] you can upgrade 10.04 to 10.10 [13:43] the short version will we still get support? if not what happens after 6 months [13:43] the LTS versions of ubuntu will be updated for 5 years I think [13:43] it won't prompt you to do so until the next LTS though [13:43] and after 5 years? ubuntu no more? [13:44] Gringo: its describes the support periods onthe site mentioned. [13:44] sorry guys im new to ubuntu always used windows [13:44] Gringo: its cool dude, don't worry - we were all there at one point too ;) [13:44] definatly, :) [13:44] we are here to help,Gringo :) [13:44] regular versions of ubuntu (not LTS) will still get updates for a year or 2 years I think? [13:45] oh, its 3 years [13:45] my mistake [13:45] so regular = 3 years support, LTS = 5 year support [13:45] there is a nice chart explaining it somewhere [13:45] AlanBell: yeah I was trying to find it :P [13:45] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases [13:45] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS [13:46] AlanBell: On the ball there dude ;) [13:46] after 3 years what does that exactly mean? we dont get ubuntu updates? [13:46] correct, but you have new versions you can upgrade to [13:47] Gringo: basically yeah - but after 3 years, there will have been 6 versions of ubuntu been released [13:47] updates are things like security fixes, small things that fix the versions of applications you already have [13:47] oh i see but then u can upgrade to a new version and have further updates? [13:47] releases will take a load of applications up a full version level and could have more substantial changes [13:48] how do i get 10.10 within ubuntu? package manager? [13:49] update manager [13:49] which is in the system menu somewhere [13:49] then go to the settings button [13:50] third tab is updates [13:50] however as its lts,dontyou have to tell it to allow upgrades to normalversios, and not just lts's. [13:50] at the bottom there is a dropdown "show new distribution releases" [13:50] guys 1 more quick question, just click on the update manager and check for updates it found 3 but its saying not authenticated you are about to install software that cant be authenticated, is this safe? [13:50] change that from "Long term support releases only" to "normal releases" [13:51] ah, i just noticed, :) [13:51] Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but the difference between a linux distro (e.g. ubuntu) and a microsoft release (e.g. Windows) is that linux is ever changing to fix bugs, errors, security, visuals of how things look, etc... so you'll find that updates for your system will happen almost daily or weekly of some kind. [13:51] HazRPG: nope, you are wrong :) [13:51] HazRPG: or even by minute or hour. [13:52] xD [13:52] guys this updates are ok? not authenticated [13:52] Gringo: yeah, it is OK [13:52] Gringo: yeah dude, you won't have to worry as much as you do on a windows machine [13:52] thanx guys i will try to upgrade and report back, thanx again guys , i appreciate your help [13:53] Gringo: pleasebackup, justtobe safe,before hand. [13:53] if you change that dropdown then update manager should offer a distribution upgrade to 10.10 [13:53] Gringo: btw, another way to upgrade is by downloading the ISO and using the burned CD to upgrade [13:53] i dont need firewall or antivirus? im only using firewall from my router [13:53] HazRPG: only the alternate CD [13:53] !firewall [13:53] Ubuntu, like any other Linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'ufw' command - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW | An alternative to ufw is the 'iptables' command - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo | GUI frontends such as Firestarter/Gufw (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE) also exist. [13:54] !virus [13:54] Antivirus is something you don't need on !Linux, except where files are then passed to windows computers (perhaps using samba), See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Antivirus [13:54] AlanBell: does ubuntu not accept upgrades from CD anymore? [13:54] HazRPG: not the live CD as it doesn't contain the packaged packages as such [13:54] ie, proper debian packages. [13:54] AlanBell: oh, heh I thought it worked on both [13:57] AlanBell: I'm sure back in 6.06 I upgrade to 6.10 via a LiveCD :s [13:57] upgraded* [13:58] HazRPG: was it ncurses or live installation ? [14:00] brobostigon: ? [14:00] HazRPG: the installation cd method, you used. [14:01] I could have sworn when I popped the LiveCD back then of 6.10 it asked if I wanted to use it as a repo, and then update-manager suggested an upgrade using the disc [14:01] HazRPG: as the ncurses,ie alternate installer has proper debian packages. however the live cd doesnt. [14:01] it still had to download a few files during install - but was handy [14:02] you know, could easily have been the alt-CD but I didn't realise [14:02] (I always download all versions, since I can distribute it around to people :)) [14:02] I think the live CD has about 3 packages on it so it does prompt you but it doesn't actually do much [14:03] brobostigon: personally I find it's easier to keep /home on a separate partition and just re-install the whole O/S from scratch ^^, [14:03] HazRPG: i test both ways, sometimes it works better than others, [14:04] personally i prefer, the alternate cd, as i like the ncurses debian installer. [14:04] contents of the /pool directory on 10.04 LTS http://paste.ubuntu.com/559896/ [14:05] you can do a magic trick where you do an over the top install without nuking /home and without separate partitions [14:06] really? [14:06] AlanBell: you own omg ubuntu? [14:06] I think popey may have written about it somewhere [14:06] Azelphur: gah, no [14:06] haha [14:07] * Nafallo waits for btrfs to land instead [14:07] d00d and humphreybc do [14:07] Azelphur: why on earth would you think that? [14:07] I see :) [14:07] your recent twitter post says "Our exclusive interview with Linus Torvalds" and links to omgubuntu [14:07] xD [14:08] links to a post on OMG entitled "Our exclusive interview with Linus Torvalds" [14:08] hehe [14:09] http://www.ohso.co/about.html [14:10] fun :p [14:10] sigh, x freeze again :( [14:11] haha, thats interesting [14:11] since X crashed twice in a matter of minutes i decided to reboot [14:11] popey is now running a session in #ubuntu-classroom and #ubuntu-classroom-chat [14:11] Thingymebob: that's total video memory, not "in use" or "unused" :) [14:12] now it says device /home is busy [14:12] do go watch/heckle [14:12] ^^^^^^ actually don't do that bit [14:12] xD [14:13] The session is called "How to fix a broken machine" [14:13] there, got my PC back up after the X crash now :P [14:16] sounds like Azelphur could use popey's session... [14:17] haha [14:17] Pendulum: I doubt his session will cover quad screen setups which cause X instability [14:17] fair enough [14:17] I am in there though :D === MichealH is now known as MH0 [15:03] wish i had more time to cover more stuff [15:04] it was good [15:04] and I appreciated the chicken hilight in it :) [15:04] hehe :) [15:14] * czajkowski has some fillet steak in, pepper sauce and potato gratins [15:14] just made some white chocolate buns :D [15:16] they do look nice [15:16] :D [15:21] hmmm, anyone know if its costly to use a CNC machine? [15:22] OMG HE'S GOING TO MAKE A PORTAL SHIRT! [15:22] :O :O :O :O :O :O :O :O :O :O !!!!!!!! [15:23] czajkowski: you're getting far too domestic :P Where's the JD? [15:23] Pendulum: bottle of wine [15:23] heh, that was meant for a different chat... but still! [15:24] * HazRPG watching The Ben Heck Show [15:24] engineering ftw! [15:24] Pendulum: Red and white [16:22] * Neoti now has ubuntu 10.10 on my new system!!! \0/ [16:22] :) [16:23] hey brobostigon. hows u [16:24] Neoti: alittlecool, myhip and backhurt, but otherwise good. how about you? [16:24] i have a couple broken nails my leg hurts .... just put a bed up .... can sleep a lot better tonight !! yey ... [16:26] * brobostigon gets Neoti a drink, [16:27] * Neoti accepts drink!!..... suggests a coffee for us both!! [16:27] ;p [16:27] * czajkowski grins at AlanBell [16:27] scp --- Pot of coffee ------ Neoti's Hand [16:28] Nice!!! .... [16:28] * Neoti off to make a well deserved coffee..... [16:28] whts this about [16:29] samuel: we are the uk ubuntu loco itc channel. [16:29] irc* [16:30] righty ho, im quite new to ubuntu and ll [16:31] Neoti: on 1st read, I thought you had broken a couple of nails while installing Ubuntu 10.10 [16:32] samuel: welcome, :) [16:32] thanks :) [16:32] :) [16:33] forgive me for being dumb but whats an irc channel [16:34] This is [16:34] yes. [16:34] #ubuntu-uk is an IRC channel [16:34] onthe network freenode [16:35] yes i see. [16:35] Freenode is a network of IRC servers. Within that network, you have thousands of channels [16:35] irc = internet relay chat [16:35] what does it get used for? [16:35] samuel: you name it. [16:35] Conversations such as this :) [16:35] :0) [16:36] would i be right in saying that it one could use it for I.T support?? [16:37] samuel: yes, :) [16:37] like here, :) [16:37] thats cool [16:37] samuel: delayed, but welcome :) [16:37] that is the primary function of this channel [16:38] indeed [16:38] Well, within the realms of Ubuntu anyways [16:38] -s [16:38] one of the many frequents of this channel should be able to help with most problems ubuntu related - if not, we try our best to see if we can find a solution somewhere [16:39] it isn't a guarantee though, everybody here is a volunteer and isn't obliged to answer any given question [16:39] but most people try to answer most questions [16:40] seems convenient [16:40] oh, don't feel insulted if no one replies straight away, remember some people are logged in on here from work, home, etc so some of them might not be around when you asked the question straight away - but they do try their best as soon as they do become available [16:42] some people might have also seen the question and have started looking it up for you, and will reply when they've found a solution - all depends on the type of people [16:43] ok well thankyou all and thanks for the warm welcome [16:43] no problem, hope to see you around :) [16:44] I find it odd that we only really get like 152 people in this channel [16:44] or sometimes a bit more [16:44] would have thought there was more people in the UK using ubuntu than that [16:44] anyone in/around london want to buy a relatively new msi wind u230 netbook? :D [16:45] * HazRPG lives far north [16:45] * brobostigon also, kinda,south midlands. [16:46] brb [16:49] * Neoti had a nice cup of coffee.... back now [16:50] * jacobw has also just had a nice cup of coffee [16:50] milk first ftw [16:51] Neoti: me too, a nice coffee aswell. :) [16:53] HazRPG: some people in this channel aren't in the uk at all ;) [16:54] MartijnVdS: then get out! [16:54] (kidding) [16:54] :'( [16:54] MartijnVdS: true... but they are brits though right? [16:54] * MartijnVdS is Dutch [16:54]