[01:22] <chibihogoshino> echo
[01:30] <cyberanger>  
[01:30] <cyberanger> command echo not found
[01:31] <chibihogoshino> lol
[01:32] <chibihogoshino> print
[01:34] <chibihogoshino> im really glad they added samba support in the new thunar
[02:00] <cyberanger> chibihogoshino: I'd be more excited if they added sftp support to windows explorer honestly
[02:00]  * cyberanger has seen nothing good come out of samba
[02:01] <chibihogoshino> ssamba
[02:01] <chibihogoshino> samba over ssh
[02:01] <cyberanger> uh.....no
[02:01] <chibihogoshino> lol
[02:01] <chibihogoshino> awwww
[02:02] <cyberanger> sftp and ipp, all the benifits of samba, none of the side effects, like a really nice virus attack vector
[02:02] <cyberanger> just like the lack of autorun in linux (unless tweaked, ugh)
[02:03] <cyberanger> you'd be suprised just how much that gets annoying, the issues samba helps cause
[02:06] <chibihogoshino> who has auto run on in linux
[02:06] <cyberanger> I had an IDS system on my computer at two different hotels, tripped alerts that could only be seeking samba machines, disabled that plugin afterwards, since I don't add any samba utilities on my system and it's linux anyhow
[02:07] <cyberanger> who has it, idk, but it could be done
[02:07] <cyberanger> and I'd assume if you can automount, somebody's coded an autorun mechnisim too
[02:08] <cyberanger> see mp3's fire up vlc, see jpg, fire up gpicview
[02:08] <cyberanger> see text documents, fire up gtext
[02:09] <cyberanger> all extensions based, and could be set as a default in gnome
[02:09] <cyberanger> but I don't recall anything that did that outright
[02:11] <chibihogoshino> yeah its not standard in linux so no one is going to make a virus or worm for it
[02:15] <cyberanger> well, add to it, the exploit is lower, if it's got no excutable on the drive
[02:17] <cyberanger> however, if say vlc were exploitable, irrealvant then
[02:17] <cyberanger> as I will sooner or later play my mp3's
[02:18] <cyberanger> I mean flac's
[02:21] <chibihogoshino> http://tech.slashdot.org/story/11/01/29/0050223/New-Critical-Bug-In-All-Current-Windows-Versions
[03:52] <chibihogoshino> last comment is proof that windows kills everything
[17:28] <cyberanger> chibihogoshino: apperently that includes this channel, oddly quiet
[17:28] <cyberanger> hello orias and KidShenck
[17:28] <KidShenck> Hello!
[17:29] <cyberanger> how's your saturday
[17:32] <cyberanger> I'm just updating my repository mirror here
[17:32] <cyberanger> furthering my plans to host a public mirror in a few months
[17:35]  * cyberanger is having a kinda low key saturday
[17:35] <KidShenck> Lovely.
[17:36] <cyberanger> I'd like to have this as an installfest kit
[17:37] <cyberanger> have a computer configured as a local mirror, and a MinimalCD, any tool a person needs, installed faster than you can say ubuntu
[17:40] <cyberanger> heh, quiet morning again
[17:41] <cyberanger> yikes, I mean afternoon (I can't believe I've been up nearly 9 hours now
[17:42] <KidShenck> Wow
[17:42] <cyberanger> and it's a slow day actually)
[17:42] <KidShenck> That does sound nice.
[17:42] <cyberanger> yeah, something of a force of habit, used to work every saturday, had to be there at 5am
[17:43] <cyberanger> would be leaving the place about now, after clocking out and eating lunch
[17:43] <cyberanger> and thus I guess why it doesn't feel that long today
[17:43] <orias> o/
[17:44]  * orias is working :(
[17:44] <KidShenck> I used to do that, but it was 4 to 11:30, but it was just fast food and years ago.
[17:44] <cyberanger> Donuts, months ago, right before halloween
[17:45] <cyberanger> and I had to be up at 3:45, out the door by 4:30, or I'd cut it real close
[17:45] <cyberanger> orias: well, I did suspect, hostname is comcast bussiness
[17:46]  * cyberanger might as well be working, what I'm doing now is gonna speed up the next work week, hopefully
[17:47] <orias> ahh thats just the makerspace :)
[17:47] <orias> wuah hah hah
[17:49] <cyberanger> next weekend is the makerspace here (well, my workshop more accurately)
[17:49] <orias> :)
[17:49] <cyberanger> that assumes parts arrive in time
[17:50] <cyberanger> gonna mod a solar powered GL
[17:50] <orias> GL?
[17:50] <cyberanger> Linksys WRT54GL
[17:50] <orias> nice
[17:50] <cyberanger> sorry, should have spelled that one out
[17:51] <cyberanger> further down the road, I hope to put an rp-sma jack into my Asus EEE 700
[17:52] <cyberanger> I've been wanting to do this again for so long, it's blueprints in the brain, and shortened to GL, too excited to burn my fingers with a soldering gun to say the whole model number ;-)
[17:56] <orias> what kind of battery are you using for overnight?
[17:58] <cyberanger> I figure I'll use 8 NiZn AA batteries
[17:58] <cyberanger> that's definately 24 hours of juice
[17:58] <cyberanger> I'd expect somewhere between 36-48 hours
[17:58] <orias> very cool
[17:58] <orias> east or west tn?
[17:58] <cyberanger> should insure it never goes down
[17:59] <cyberanger> I've thought of using a SLA battery, but for the decreased portability, and little gain
[17:59] <cyberanger> not worth it for what I'd like
[18:00] <cyberanger> East
[18:00] <orias> where'd you get the cells?
[18:00] <orias> solar*
[18:01] <cyberanger> I haven't yet, but considering the low draw involved, it won't be hard
[18:02] <cyberanger> the AC transformer is capable of feeding it an amp at 12 volts, but the actual draw is much less
[18:02] <cyberanger> 500 mA max
[18:02] <orias> coolness
[18:03] <cyberanger> so talking 2.5 watts as a realistic avg
[18:03] <cyberanger> and 3 watts tops probally
[18:04] <cyberanger> I'm thinking what I'd do is grab a few small panels, say 4 that can grab 1.3 watts
[18:05] <cyberanger> which should be enough to keep it going
[18:05] <cyberanger> but I'd want to upgrade it down the road
[18:05] <cyberanger> higher battery capicity (one week I think)
[18:06] <cyberanger> preferrably with NiZn batteries (as much as an SLA could do it simplisticly, TSA isn't simplistic)
[18:07] <cyberanger> and by doing that, it could run in Haiti without grid access, with the possible exception of monsoon season
[18:09] <cyberanger> at that point one could still have room for a Hughesnet HN7000S modem (nice travelling modem, but they won't tell you that) a BUC and a guide on improvising the actual dish
[18:09]  * cyberanger is an amatuer radio op. with an intrest in emergency communications
[18:10] <orias> very cool
[18:11] <cyberanger> thing is, aside from the router (and excluding all the hughesnet bit, since I've not gotten to it yet) we're talking 20 bucks at most
[18:11] <cyberanger> and vary some bits for a different router, cost is still in that range
[18:12] <cyberanger> no reason everyone couldn't do this
[18:13] <orias> very cool. going to put up links and images?
[18:14] <cyberanger> I figure when I do it I will be
[18:14] <cyberanger> parts are on the way
[18:16] <cyberanger> the parts list isn't much, the router, some wire, a power connector http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2103614&clickid=wish_list
[18:17] <cyberanger> some batteries http://www.amazon.com/PowerGenix-PGX-4AAZiNc-1-6v-Voltage-Rechargeable-Batteries/dp/B0029LHXG2
[18:17] <cyberanger> a nice box or two to put them in http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2062244&clickid=wish_list
[18:18] <cyberanger> and if your wanting to recharge the battries with a solar panel, you'd need that
[18:18] <cyberanger> or you could just swap out the battries too
[18:18] <cyberanger> recharge one set, use another
[18:21] <orias> nice
[18:21] <cyberanger> if you changed the battery type to a SLA (car) battery, this panel would work nice http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=4218514&retainProdsInSession=1&retainProdsInSession=1
[18:22] <cyberanger> the panel has to be paired closely to the batteries, and that's why I'm doing this in sections
[18:23] <cyberanger> easy enough to get it to run in a backpack, and come back to the solar panel when it's a bigger issue
[18:23] <cyberanger> I first want to get it to where TSA won't freak (they shouldn't, but heh)
[18:24] <cyberanger> so get the battries right, wiring short
[18:24] <cyberanger> something along the lines of this http://www.voltsxamps.com/?p=532
[18:24] <cyberanger> I just want to keep things a little more modular than he did
[18:25] <cyberanger> easier to replace a component in the middle of a mess like katrina
[18:25] <cyberanger> and plus, linksys's seals stay intact
[18:26] <cyberanger> so the hardware warrenty should be intact too
[18:28] <cyberanger> and I guess I take back what I said on the cost, I left out the solar panel (but that's still more than all the parts if you wanted to run it off a car, as an example)
[18:33] <cyberanger> the end result is worth it any way you look at it, which is getting communications back up after a communications failure
[18:34] <cyberanger> orias: I take it your midsouth makers?
[18:34] <orias> ya
[18:35]  * orias will hopefully be using the log of this convo to do the same :)
[18:35] <cyberanger> would this be of intrest there
[18:35] <cyberanger> and that answers that
[18:36] <cyberanger> I'm sure sooner or later I'll wind up that way again, could probally assist in this if you'd like
[18:36] <cyberanger> I think this will be the 3rd time I've done this, each time is a bit different
[18:38] <cyberanger> I need to get to each of the cities anyhow, try and further orginize the loco
[18:41] <cyberanger> orias: would that be helpful?
[18:42] <orias> that'd be awesome
[18:42] <cyberanger> I'm not sure how your makerspace runs, but I'd be glad to do that on my next trip
[18:42] <orias> we're pretty informal, we like to soak up any and all info
[18:42] <cyberanger> (which I hope isn't too far out, I'd like to beat natty's release, for another meeting)
[18:42]  * orias is busy at work :(
[18:43] <cyberanger> ah, more or less like the rest
[18:43] <cyberanger> yeah, work :/
[18:44] <orias> its too pretty outside to be stuck working >.<
[18:51] <cyberanger> indeed
[19:08] <orias> one of my co-workers is big into emergency radio/ham in Jackson
[19:11] <cyberanger> cool
[19:11] <cyberanger> he might also want to head to midsouth makers for a meeting ;-)
[19:12] <orias> he's too far out :/
[19:14] <cyberanger> well.....
[19:25] <cyberanger> Jackson to Memphis shouldn't be that far, but anywhere you can squeeze a buck I suppose
[19:27] <vychune_> hey guys
[19:33] <cyberanger> hey vy..........heh short chat