[00:45] <rbnswartz> Hey jcastro you around?
[01:28] <arow> does anyone here know much about registering a program to the soundmenu?
[01:28] <arow> I've already read the soundmenu wiki page back to front
[01:29] <arow> and my program seems to do everything it says there to register, yet it doesn't appear on the soundmenu
[01:34] <jcastro> rbnswartz: hi
[01:34] <jcastro> what's up
[01:35] <rbnswartz> Do you know what happend to DBO? And I have a question regaurding proper programming.
[01:36] <jcastro> he's usually not around on weekends
[01:36] <jcastro> I recommend mailing ayatana-dev in this case
[01:37] <jcastro> though he'll be around in like an hour and a half for our #ubuntu-classroom session
[01:37] <rbnswartz> I sent him an email but his email inbox must be rather large.
[01:38] <rbnswartz> Anyway onto my proper programming question.
[01:44] <rbnswartz> I'm hoping the bug I was working on a month ago is still open though it is marked as in progress ( hence my need to get a hold of DBO to find out if it is marked a such for me). I need to be able to change a private variable in one class from another. What would be the best method? Change it to public or make a function to change it?
[01:47] <rbnswartz> jcastro ^^
[01:47] <jcastro> no clue
[01:49] <rbnswartz> on what part?
[02:01] <rbnswartz> jcastro ?
[02:21] <arow> does anyone know when ronoc is usually around?
[12:26] <coz_> good day all
[14:45] <brad_> bluetooth keyboard and mouse will pair, but won't control the Unity interface.  Is there additional setup required?
[16:54] <smspillaz> Amaranth: the gap between the window and the launcher is caused by unity-window-decorator
[16:54] <smspillaz> Amaranth: since it has to expand the frame window that the client is reparented into
[16:54] <Amaranth> smspillaz: arg
[16:54] <smspillaz> Amaranth: what I'm going to do is tweak the decoration property spec somewhat to allow for a frame requested area and an "effective" input area
[16:54] <smspillaz> well, I've done that
[16:54] <smspillaz> I just need to work out the bugs
[16:54] <smspillaz> so hopefully that will make A2
[16:55] <smspillaz> Amaranth: it will also fix the problem where the window visually "shifts" as the decoration gets created
[16:55] <smspillaz> because right now it shifts once and then shifts again
[17:20] <nexeh> Hello, im not sure if this channel is the best place for this question but lets give it a shot
[17:20] <nexeh> I have no sound in Ubuntu 10.04. Hardware shows up in sound preferences but nothing under input or output tabs. this was working previously and is something i most likely messed up... i could use some help. i have attached useful info here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/560302/
[17:22] <spikeb> #ubuntu would be better
[17:23] <nexeh> Bummer, im in there to.. the last couple days there hasnt been much support in there.. i end up awnsering more questions then anything else... which i dont mind at all but can't find anyone to even acknoledge my question
[17:24] <arow> nexeh: if you don't mind a somewhat drastic solution, you could try replacing alsa with oss4
[17:25] <arow> though you'd probably be better figuring out what it is you messed up
[17:25] <arow> unless you really want oss4
[17:25] <nexeh> you know... i think i was messing around in that area tring to get a game to start working.. so maybe im stuck between oss and alsa
[17:25] <nexeh> im not to picky
[17:26] <nexeh> i and google the differences but and tricky things i should know about making the switch?
[17:27] <arow> well, I think it's become more integrated since I last used it (haven't on this install (maverick))
[17:28] <arow> though I dunno if it works with pulseaudio now or not
[17:29] <arow> aside from compatibility with a few programs though, most users shouldn't notice the difference with oss4
[17:29] <arow> most of the differences are behind the scenes
[17:30] <arow> though some people say oss4 has better sound quality, and there are some enthusiast sound cards that require
[17:30] <arow> *it
[20:24] <akshatj> how to I manually start the panel and launcher?
[20:29] <arow> you could try the command gnome-panel
[20:30] <arow> if you can't access the terminal, press alt+f2 to open a "run" dialog
[20:30] <akshatj> arow: but it starts the normal panel and I want the unity panel and launcher
[20:30] <arow> oh
[20:30] <arow> you can do it from the login screen
[20:31] <akshatj> arow: I am logged in to the unity session in natty and the panel and launcher are not showing up
[20:32] <arow> akshatj: that's strange, have you changed any settings since the last time it worked?
[20:32] <arow> or is this the first time you're running natty?
[20:33] <akshatj> arow: I just updated and the X segfaulted
[20:33] <akshatj> so I switched to an older version
[20:33] <akshatj> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1677834&page=2
[20:45] <arow> akshatj: I'm afraid this is probably out of my scope
[20:47] <arow> my only guess, and it's not a very educated one, is that some settings may have been changed when the system couldn't find the version of X it was looking for
[20:48] <arow> I hope someone else here can help you, sorry
[21:25] <m_conley_away> chrisccoulson: ping
[21:26] <chrisccoulson> hi m_conley_away
[21:26] <m_conley_away> chrisccoulson: hey - I've got some info on that segfault
[21:26] <chrisccoulson> oh, excellent :)
[21:26] <m_conley_away> chrisccoulson: (for the globalmenu-extension w Lightning)
[21:27] <m_conley_away> chrisccoulson: so the extension seems to go through the menubar nodes, addign menuSeparators, menuItems, etc
[21:27] <m_conley_away> but if it sees something it doesn't recognize - for example, an observes tag, it flips out.
[21:28] <chrisccoulson> ah, i did think that it would fall over if it hits a node that it can't handle
[21:28] <m_conley_away> chrisccoulson:  It's a small fix - cool if I submit a patch on Launchpad?
[21:28] <chrisccoulson> but i didn't realise that we were already hitting that
[21:28] <m_conley_away> chrisccoulson: (not too familiar with patch submission with you Canonical folk.  :) )
[21:28] <chrisccoulson> yeah, sure. that would be great.
[21:29] <chrisccoulson> you can branch it, and then propose a merge
[21:29] <chrisccoulson> thanks! :-)
[21:29] <m_conley> chrisccoulson: np.  Were you hitting any other issues with it?  After I got it working, it's pretty slick.  :)  Good work!
[21:30] <chrisccoulson> i haven't really hit any other issues yet. the only thing i need to look at this week is bug 710149, but that only really affects firefox
[21:31] <chrisccoulson> and i think that's really a bug in another part of the stack, but i'm not entirely sure yet
[21:32] <chrisccoulson> we basically have to embed the mnemonics in the menu label (eg, "_File"), but if we really have an underscore in the label, there doesn't seem to be a way to actually display it as an underscore
[21:33] <m_conley> I see
[21:33] <m_conley> did you want me to look at that?
[21:33] <chrisccoulson> yeah, feel free to if you have time :)
[21:34] <chrisccoulson> i bet if you have a look on launchpad through the bugs for appmenu-gtk or indicator-appmenu, you might already find that a similar bug affects other browsers (like epiphany)
[21:34] <chrisccoulson> i'm sure someone else must have experienced it before
[21:34] <chrisccoulson> but it would be good to fix it
[21:35] <m_conley> chrisccoulson: Alright, cool - I'll take a peek.
[21:35] <chrisccoulson> excellent, thanks!
[21:35] <m_conley> chrisccoulson: np
[21:36] <chrisccoulson> also, if you have any questions about other parts of the stack, tedg is a good person to talk to. he normally hangs out here during the week
[21:36] <m_conley> awesome, thanks. :)
[21:36] <chrisccoulson> we should probably ask him about that bug first - he might have an answer for it already ;)
[21:37] <m_conley> alright, will do
[22:26] <chrisccoulson> hmmmm, i've got 2 dead buttons on my launcher in unity now, after running unity-2d earlier :/
[22:26] <chrisccoulson> anyone knows where unity stores those?
[22:26] <chrisccoulson> it's not in dconf is it?
[23:10] <nmarques> How can I debug if Unity is loading all the required compiz plugins and the best way to launch it from a gnome2 session ?