| DarkwingDuck | jjesse: ping | 00:20 |
|---|---|---|
| apachelogger | I am getting to old for staying out all night and getting wasted | 00:22 |
| apachelogger | life is rather cruel | 00:23 |
| DarkwingDuck | lol Hey apachelogger | 00:23 |
| DarkwingDuck | Natty hate VirtualBox on my system | 00:23 |
| apachelogger | yo DarkwingDuck | 00:23 |
| stalcup | my computer hates linux :( | 00:23 |
| DarkwingDuck | :( | 00:23 |
| * stalcup wants a new computer | 00:24 | |
| DarkwingDuck | Linux runs just fine... it's VirtualBox that hates me | 00:24 |
| DarkwingDuck | I swear | 00:24 |
| apachelogger | use qemu | 00:24 |
| DarkwingDuck | qemu? | 00:24 |
| apachelogger | stalcup: join some price game thing? | 00:24 |
| stalcup | I have to use virtual box to do my linux stuff | 00:24 |
| stalcup | apachelogger: good idear | 00:24 |
| apachelogger | DarkwingDuck: not-oracle virtualisation ;) | 00:24 |
| DarkwingDuck | Oh nice | 00:25 |
| * apachelogger thinks he needs another round of drugs | 00:25 | |
| stalcup | ohmy | 00:25 |
| DarkwingDuck | apachelogger: anything non-oracle would be good | 00:25 |
| apachelogger | trying all day to recover from last night | 00:25 |
| DarkwingDuck | apachelogger: is it in the repository? | 00:25 |
| apachelogger | qemu? | 00:26 |
| apachelogger | sure | 00:26 |
| apachelogger | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VciwWFpDwY | 00:27 |
| apachelogger | one day I will get an alarm clock that throws depeche mode at me | 00:27 |
| apachelogger | oh, imagine how awesome waking up must be like that... | 00:27 |
| jjesse | just write a script so amarok does it for you :P | 00:27 |
| apachelogger | sure | 00:28 |
| apachelogger | and then amarok crashes or memleaks and stuff | 00:28 |
| apachelogger | and then I do not wake up and stuff | 00:28 |
| apachelogger | I'd rather trust shadeslayer with all my money | 00:28 |
| === stalcup is now known as vorian | ||
| apachelogger | ooh | 00:28 |
| === vorian is now known as v | ||
| apachelogger | seems I missed LinuxTag call for papers thanks to drinking | 00:29 |
| * v waits for maco comment on nick changes | 00:29 | |
| === v is now known as stalcup | ||
| stalcup | done, i promise | 00:33 |
| DarkwingDuck | ohhh goody.... something more involved | 00:39 |
| * DarkwingDuck goes to read up on qemu | 00:39 | |
| jjesse | DarkwingDuck working on something fuN? | 00:54 |
| DarkwingDuck | jjesse: trying to get Natty to run in a VM | 00:54 |
| jjesse | me 2 | 00:55 |
| jjesse | i can get ubuntu natty to run but right now my kubuntu natty boots to a black screen | 00:56 |
| DarkwingDuck | yeah, that's what mine was doing. | 00:57 |
| apachelogger | I recon the new xorg arrived :P | 00:57 |
| DarkwingDuck | I'm reinstalling it as the pure Alpha1 and try it from there. | 00:58 |
| jjesse | yup, now on updated ubuntu natty it goes to black screen | 00:58 |
| jjesse | that was the most current daily + update | 00:58 |
| DarkwingDuck | So, do not update theh xorg package... Got ya | 00:58 |
| jjesse | apparently | 01:05 |
| jjesse | would be nice if there was notification someplace | 01:06 |
| * DarkwingDuck agrees | 01:10 | |
| DarkwingDuck | If only we had a tool tha we could use to tell people when things like this happened... | 01:11 |
| jjesse | hrmm like twitter? | 01:12 |
| DarkwingDuck | Or something that would send a message out to everyone | 01:12 |
| DarkwingDuck | Like a mailing list... </sarcasm> | 01:12 |
| jjesse | like a mailing list :) | 01:12 |
| DarkwingDuck | :D | 01:12 |
| DarkwingDuck | Why does the Doc maillist get the user help emails? | 01:16 |
| jjesse | because of the way the help section is written i believe | 01:22 |
| DarkwingDuck | Sweet mother of god. | 01:22 |
| DarkwingDuck | Here is that wonderful error | 01:22 |
| jjesse | in X? | 01:23 |
| DarkwingDuck | No, the alpha1 | 01:23 |
| DarkwingDuck | console-setup is in a broken state | 01:23 |
| * DarkwingDuck sighs | 01:24 | |
| DarkwingDuck | jjesse: in VirtualBox how would I trigger tty1? | 01:26 |
| jjesse | hrmm if you have full control of the vm same as normal right? | 01:26 |
| DarkwingDuck | Just the mouseover control | 01:27 |
| jjesse | hrm | 01:27 |
| DarkwingDuck | It triggers the host. | 01:27 |
| jjesse | don't know then off the top of my head | 01:27 |
| DarkwingDuck | :/ | 01:28 |
| DarkwingDuck | hmz | 01:36 |
| DarkwingDuck | Well, it's a good thing I didn't install 11.04 on my lappy | 01:38 |
| apachelogger | DarkwingDuck: X change was announced on either ubuntu-devel or ubuntu-devel-announce | 01:41 |
| DarkwingDuck | ahhhhh, the side I'm not subscribed to... | 01:42 |
| * DarkwingDuck goes to subscribe to those lists. | 01:42 | |
| aditirex | did something broke in kernel on today's updates ? | 02:45 |
| jjesse | nope its X | 02:46 |
| aditirex | or X ... | 02:46 |
| aditirex | so how can I revert it ? | 02:47 |
| jjesse | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2011-January/032355.html | 02:48 |
| aditirex | thks | 02:54 |
| DarkwingDuck | Okay, that link explain what was going on but for those of us testing with black screens... Is there way to fix it for now or, wait for the fix? | 05:03 |
| valorie | hey DarkwingDuck | 05:55 |
| DarkwingDuck | Hye valorie | 05:56 |
| valorie | you got as far last night as telling me to install bzr | 05:56 |
| valorie | which I did | 05:56 |
| DarkwingDuck | don't update your alpha 1 | 05:56 |
| DarkwingDuck | :P | 05:56 |
| valorie | anything special I should be reading, or ? | 05:56 |
| valorie | i'm not brave enough for Natty yet | 05:56 |
| valorie | I gotta USE this puter | 05:56 |
| valorie | and VMs -- no luck so far | 05:57 |
| valorie | I mean I got one set up, but never installed kub. successfully in it | 05:57 |
| * DarkwingDuck nods | 05:57 | |
| valorie | turns out that was due to a bug, but that's as far as I ever got, testing | 05:57 |
| DarkwingDuck | valorie: gimme a sec | 05:58 |
| DarkwingDuck | valorie: you know anything about HTML? | 06:06 |
| valorie | yes, I'm reasonably good | 06:10 |
| valorie | I code my pages by hand, etc. | 06:11 |
| DarkwingDuck | okay good. | 06:13 |
| DarkwingDuck | make a folder for kubuntu docs where you will find it. | 06:13 |
| valorie | done | 06:14 |
| DarkwingDuck | navigate to it in konsole | 06:15 |
| valorie | ok, there | 06:17 |
| valorie | :~/Documents/KubuntuDocs$ | 06:17 |
| DarkwingDuck | now | 06:18 |
| DarkwingDuck | type the following: bzr branch lp:kubuntu-docs | 06:18 |
| valorie | You have not informed bzr of your Launchpad ID, and you must do this to | 06:20 |
| valorie | write to Launchpad or access private data. See "bzr help launchpad-login". | 06:20 |
| valorie | it is downloading, though | 06:20 |
| valorie | I think I have a lp id | 06:20 |
| valorie | I have an account | 06:20 |
| DarkwingDuck | It's okay... you wont be uploading anything from there. | 06:21 |
| valorie | https://launchpad.net/~valorie-zimmerman | 06:21 |
| valorie | ok | 06:21 |
| valorie | alrighty, it's done downloading | 06:22 |
| valorie | Branched 199 revision(s). | 06:22 |
| DarkwingDuck | Yup | 06:22 |
| DarkwingDuck | Before you check spells, grammer ect you will want to check for new revisions. | 06:23 |
| DarkwingDuck | each time. | 06:23 |
| DarkwingDuck | the command for that is bzr update | 06:23 |
| DarkwingDuck | in cd docs is where the docs are listed. | 06:23 |
| valorie | so cd to kubdocs, and bzr update | 06:23 |
| DarkwingDuck | yup | 06:24 |
| DarkwingDuck | current revision is 199 | 06:24 |
| DarkwingDuck | They are XML files. | 06:24 |
| DarkwingDuck | so, the about file is under about/C/about.xml | 06:24 |
| DarkwingDuck | When you open and edit them the simpliest thigns to do is to edit them and save them to a secondary spot to email to myself or jjesse | 06:25 |
| DarkwingDuck | So you don't mess up your revisions | 06:25 |
| valorie | email to both of you, or ? | 06:26 |
| DarkwingDuck | One of the other | 06:26 |
| DarkwingDuck | of/or | 06:26 |
| valorie | ok, so maybe ask who is available | 06:27 |
| DarkwingDuck | my email is david.wonderly@kubuntu.org | 06:27 |
| valorie | and jjesse? | 06:27 |
| DarkwingDuck | uhhhhh.... I'll have to look it up | 06:27 |
| valorie | I can email from valorie.zimmerman@kubuntu.org if that will help keep everything ship-shape | 06:28 |
| DarkwingDuck | jjesse[@]gmail | 06:28 |
| DarkwingDuck | Now, when we file a doc as DONE in https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo/Natty thats when it's ready for review | 06:29 |
| DarkwingDuck | :D | 06:30 |
| DarkwingDuck | I need to figure out over the next couple days what docs are done and what needs to be done. | 06:30 |
| DarkwingDuck | So we can update that page. | 06:30 |
| DarkwingDuck | and with that.. the wife is calling... I bid thee all g'night | 06:31 |
| valorie | niters | 06:31 |
| DarkwingDuck | too confusing valorie? | 06:31 |
| valorie | well, I don't know how to access the docs | 06:31 |
| valorie | or edit them | 06:32 |
| valorie | use kate? | 06:32 |
| DarkwingDuck | kubuntu-docs/docs/topicfolder/C/docname.xml | 06:32 |
| DarkwingDuck | Yes, you can use kate | 06:32 |
| DarkwingDuck | So, example of the about.xml doc... it will be in kubuntu-docs/about/C/about.xml | 06:33 |
| valorie | question -- I now have the above doc open in kate | 06:35 |
| DarkwingDuck | Aye | 06:35 |
| valorie | where can I see what that doc looks like as published? | 06:36 |
| valorie | I'm keeping notes about this in kate, as well | 06:37 |
| valorie | and no, so far nothing is confusing | 06:37 |
| valorie | oh, sec | 06:38 |
| DarkwingDuck | ?? | 06:38 |
| valorie | sorry, when the old dog wants out of bed, it has to be now | 06:43 |
| DarkwingDuck | :D | 06:43 |
| valorie | or it means a cleanup job | 06:43 |
| DarkwingDuck | I'll catch ya tomorrow night. | 06:43 |
| valorie | and I've already done that once tonight! | 06:43 |
| valorie | he just turned 16 | 06:43 |
| valorie | niters -- I'll poke around a bit | 06:44 |
| valorie | thanks for the help | 06:44 |
| DarkwingDuck | Anytime valorie | 06:45 |
| jussi | Morning all | 07:23 |
| jussi | DarkwingDuck: long time no see! | 07:23 |
| jussi | So, Im on the kde 4.6 from the ppa, (4.5.95 - beta 2) and I'm getting the following error with kajong: * kajongg is not correctly installed: modules: No module named animation | 07:27 |
| valorie | I get the same error, jussi | 07:28 |
| jussi | do we think its a packaging, or upstream error? | 07:28 |
| valorie | I've never started it up before, so no clue here | 07:29 |
| yofel | hm, happens too here in natty http://paste.kde.org/3685/ | 07:29 |
| valorie | maybe #kde will know? | 07:29 |
| valorie | heh, #kde-devel , I should have said | 07:32 |
| yofel | the source has animation.py | 07:34 |
| yofel | I'll check what list-missing shows | 07:35 |
| jussi | yofel: thanks :) | 07:41 |
| jussi | (I miss my mahjong ) | 07:41 |
| yofel | yeap | 07:48 |
| yofel | -./usr/share/kde4/apps/kajongg/animation.py | 07:48 |
| yofel | not the only one it seems | 07:48 |
| yofel | they drown a bit in the .pyc list :S http://paste.kde.org/3686/ | 07:48 |
| yofel | better | 08:23 |
| yofel | no, still fails.. | 08:24 |
| === fenris- is now known as ejat | ||
| === yofel_ is now known as yofel | ||
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: i'd be spending all your moniez on neon and conf.kde.in | 13:21 |
| apachelogger | :O | 13:24 |
| apachelogger | scary | 13:24 |
| shadeslayer | i hope they aren't space bucks | 13:24 |
| shadeslayer | oh maybe buy some more bandwidth for myself too :P | 13:25 |
| apachelogger | you are a selfish person | 13:25 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: i have like ... 256kbps of bandwidth | 13:25 |
| shadeslayer | took me 3 hours to download alll of neon | 13:26 |
| shadeslayer | -l | 13:26 |
| apachelogger | because you are not lzmaing it | 13:26 |
| shadeslayer | actually we are | 13:26 |
| shadeslayer | im pretty sure we use lzma compression in rules | 13:26 |
| apachelogger | then you did something wrong | 13:27 |
| apachelogger | also my feet are cold | 13:27 |
| apachelogger | also I am hungry | 13:27 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: thats why the download is 500 MB and the install size is 1.5GB | 13:27 |
| * apachelogger shall go out find something to eat | 13:27 | |
| * shadeslayer passes some chips to apachelogger | 13:27 | |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: dh_builddeb -- -Z lzma | 13:27 |
| shadeslayer | we have that in our rules file | 13:28 |
| apachelogger | you only have one rules file? :O | 13:28 |
| shadeslayer | thats all that is needed ... one debian/rules | 13:29 |
| shadeslayer | [ for each package ] | 13:29 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: your brand new thinkpad has a bazillion fingerprints :S | 14:00 |
| shadeslayer | or is it the lighting | 14:01 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: he probably already had tea on it and stuff :P | 15:05 |
| apachelogger | I sure would have ^^ | 15:05 |
| shadeslayer | hahaha :D | 15:05 |
| shadeslayer | now i have to write a article on Net neutrality | 15:06 |
| shadeslayer | *sigh | 15:06 |
| apachelogger | oh | 15:07 |
| apachelogger | ah | 15:07 |
| apachelogger | why is it that mvo has a shitty looking software center | 15:07 |
| apachelogger | that is a bit scary | 15:07 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: what is net neutrality? | 15:07 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: its ISP's being evil and charging you for each GB of pr0n you download | 15:09 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2010/12/its-here-fcc-adopts-net-neutrality-lite.ars | 15:09 |
| shadeslayer | its come to india as well | 15:10 |
| shadeslayer | and im once again in the future | 15:10 |
| apachelogger | what what what? | 15:12 |
| apachelogger | charging you per pr0n?!?!?! | 15:12 |
| apachelogger | wtf | 15:12 |
| apachelogger | that is death of the intarwebs right there | 15:12 |
| shadeslayer | yes it is | 15:12 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: google it and you'll see loads of articles | 15:13 |
| apachelogger | I do not like reading | 15:13 |
| apachelogger | also I think I will play a computer game | 15:13 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: a friend is interested in Java + KDE | 15:14 |
| shadeslayer | any suggestions ? | 15:14 |
| apachelogger | yep | 15:15 |
| apachelogger | lock him away | 15:15 |
| apachelogger | hold on | 15:15 |
| apachelogger | that was not english, was it? | 15:15 |
| apachelogger | s/away/up | 15:15 |
| apachelogger | sounds better anyway | 15:15 |
| apachelogger | so | 15:15 |
| shadeslayer | hehe | 15:15 |
| * apachelogger looks for game to play | 15:15 | |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: Steam | 15:16 |
| JontheEchidna | http://i.imgur.com/otzaP.png | 16:46 |
| JontheEchidna | http://i.imgur.com/Zstz0.png | 16:47 |
| shadeslayer | i prefer the oxygen icons for debs | 16:48 |
| shadeslayer | call me old fashioned ... but i just like them P | 16:49 |
| shadeslayer | :P | 16:49 |
| JontheEchidna | those are the oxygen icons for .debs since 4.6 | 16:49 |
| yofel | indeed, look odd | 16:50 |
| yofel | where did you get the icon extraction from? | 16:50 |
| JontheEchidna | https://projects.kde.org/projects/extragear/sysadmin/libqapt/repository/revisions/master/changes/src/debfile.cpp | 16:51 |
| JontheEchidna | It takes the app icon and then overlays it against the application-x-deb mimetype icon | 16:51 |
| JontheEchidna | I'm contemplating whether or not I want to have the mimetype icon in the background at all, or just have the app icon by itself | 16:52 |
| JontheEchidna | better link: https://projects.kde.org/projects/extragear/sysadmin/libqapt/repository/revisions/master/entry/src/debfile.cpp | 16:52 |
| JontheEchidna | oh, it seems like the kde plugin system automatically gives me an overlay of the mimetype icon in the bottom right corner: http://i.imgur.com/80N7o.png | 16:54 |
| JontheEchidna | looks better now I think: http://i.imgur.com/OM5F5.png | 17:01 |
| shadeslayer | i still prefer my deb icons | 17:02 |
| shadeslayer | :P | 17:02 |
| ximion | JontheEchidna: cool! | 17:11 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: how is performance? | 17:12 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: tried out Neon yet? | 17:13 |
| JontheEchidna | apachelogger: it got through 108 files in under 5 seconds, so pretty good I think | 17:13 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: no, I am developing windows nowadays | 17:13 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: sweet | 17:13 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: rm -rf /media/Windows -> now thats Development | 17:14 |
| JontheEchidna | I'm still playing with the thumbnail picture | 17:14 |
| JontheEchidna | xpm's don't like being scaled, though: http://i.imgur.com/fiOcJ.png | 17:15 |
| JontheEchidna | I'm thinking I should only use those as a fallback | 17:15 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: most definitely | 17:18 |
| apachelogger | stupid xpm is way too horrible :P | 17:18 |
| ximion | JontheEchidna: have you heard of the AppStream project already? | 17:19 |
| JontheEchidna | ximion: I saw glatzor's blog about it | 17:19 |
| ximion | ah | 17:20 |
| ximion | at the miniconf, it was decided to use the USC as cross-distro software-center... | 17:21 |
| JontheEchidna | yeah, that's great for the gnomes I guess | 17:21 |
| ximion | since USC is for GNOME, I took a look at how MSC works... | 17:21 |
| apachelogger | usc? | 17:21 |
| ximion | you don't use Xapian directly, do you? | 17:21 |
| ximion | usc => ubuntu software center | 17:22 |
| JontheEchidna | only for package searching | 17:22 |
| apachelogger | kk | 17:22 |
| JontheEchidna | otherwise I use the .desktop files in app-install-data | 17:22 |
| JontheEchidna | iirc USC has some xapian indexer plugin that goes over those .desktop files | 17:22 |
| JontheEchidna | and uses xapian for everything | 17:22 |
| JontheEchidna | but | 17:22 |
| JontheEchidna | MSC is faster than USC, so... ;=) | 17:23 |
| JontheEchidna | *;-) | 17:23 |
| * yofel wonders if that's what keeps usc running for minutes using 100% CPU after closing it... | 17:23 | |
| ximion | ok... hmm, this makes it difficult to use it as cross-distro software center :P (I'm just playing with all this stuff at time to find sane solutions to handle 3rd-party apps...) | 17:24 |
| ximion | yofel: Might be the aptdaemon python tool | 17:24 |
| ximion | btw: http://blogs.gnome.org/hughsie/2011/01/24/application-installer-miniconf-trip-report/ | 17:24 |
| ximion | AppStream will become awesome, if everything works out as planned :) | 17:24 |
| ximion | JontheEchidna: MSC definitely is faster, but I thought it was because of C++ vs. Python... | 17:25 |
| JontheEchidna | well, there's that too of course :P | 17:25 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: around? | 17:25 |
| shadeslayer | i need some advice | 17:25 |
| JontheEchidna | though xapian is pretty fast for searching, maybe it is just the pyth0rn | 17:25 |
| shadeslayer | how do i check if there is form data on a page? | 17:25 |
| shadeslayer | darn it ... why did i not see KWebWallet::acceptSaveFormDataRequest earlier | 17:26 |
| JontheEchidna | Comparing the time it takes in each app to open the "Installed Software" view would be a pretty good comparison between xapian query and my C++ class for Application data | 17:28 |
| JontheEchidna | apachelogger: oh and btw, I've finished the backend bits needed for adding .debs that you downloaded from another computer to the cache, so that you can install things without internet access | 17:30 |
| JontheEchidna | For a frontend, I plan on adding a menu item for the internetless computer to export a list of packages to download, and a GUI for the internet'd computer to download them to the USB stick | 17:32 |
| JontheEchidna | and then a menu item to open up a dialog to add archives from the USB stick | 17:32 |
| JontheEchidna | it'll be much better than Synaptic's wget script :P | 17:33 |
| shadeslayer | <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: oh and btw, I've finished the backend bits needed for adding .debs that you downloaded from another computer to the cache, so that you can install things without internet access | 17:34 |
| shadeslayer | AWESOME ^^^ | 17:34 |
| === rdieter_ is now known as rdieter | ||
| DarkwingDuck | jussi: ping | 17:55 |
| Quintasan_ | Riddell, shadeslayer, yofel: I'm ill, don't count on me on anything at least till Wednesday | 17:57 |
| yofel | oh, get well soon :) | 17:58 |
| jussi | DarkwingDuck: yes? | 18:00 |
| DarkwingDuck | jussi: long time no see back at ya! :P:P | 18:01 |
| jussi | yofel: any luck with kahjongg? | 18:01 |
| DarkwingDuck | jussi: I've been without a working computer for a bit... back now though | 18:01 |
| jussi | excellent. mhows the GMS going? | 18:01 |
| DarkwingDuck | jussi: seeing that I got this thing less then a week ago I'm still trying to get things built back onto it. | 18:03 |
| yofel | no, I messed the package I had up, so had to start fresh, but even with all installed filed added it still doesn't work, so it seems the install script for kajongg is broken | 18:04 |
| yofel | s/filed/files/ | 18:04 |
| kubotu | yofel meant: "no, I messed the package I had up, so had to start fresh, but even with all installed files added it still doesn't work, so it seems the install script for kajongg is broken" | 18:04 |
| shadeslayer | Quintasan_: get well soon :) | 18:05 |
| yofel | jussi: thanks for reminding me though, I'll look at it again | 18:07 |
| afiestas | what d I have to install to get video thumbnails? (I'm using Natty) | 18:16 |
| shadeslayer | afiestas: one sec | 18:16 |
| shadeslayer | afiestas: ffmpegthumbnailer | 18:17 |
| shadeslayer | or rather kffmpegthumbnailer | 18:17 |
| afiestas | ookiz, thanks | 18:18 |
| mgraesslin | shadeslayer: are you using graphicssystem raster as default, now? | 18:18 |
| shadeslayer | nopety nope | 18:19 |
| shadeslayer | openoffice doesnt like raster | 18:19 |
| mgraesslin | good | 18:19 |
| shadeslayer | buggy? | 18:19 |
| mgraesslin | also not in the 4.6 ppa for Maverick? | 18:19 |
| mgraesslin | causing mavock with Intel drivers | 18:19 |
| shadeslayer | ah | 18:19 |
| mgraesslin | and we have several ubuntu reports | 18:20 |
| JontheEchidna | it is default in natty. should we revert? | 18:20 |
| mgraesslin | that's why I asked | 18:20 |
| shadeslayer | JontheEchidna: wait .. it is? | 18:20 |
| shadeslayer | im on maverick | 18:20 |
| afiestas | on Natty it is | 18:20 |
| JontheEchidna | yes, we were testing it out for natty and were waiting for feedback | 18:20 |
| yofel | how does one check if it's enabled? | 18:20 |
| JontheEchidna | looks like we have feedback :o) | 18:20 |
| shadeslayer | aha ... then there's your feedback :P | 18:20 |
| yofel | ah QT_GRAPHICSSYSTEM=raster | 18:21 |
| mgraesslin | bug 264259 | 18:21 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 264259 in Critic@ Engine "Add an image zoomer feature" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/264259 | 18:21 |
| shadeslayer | kde bug 264259 | 18:21 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 264259 in general "Window content not updated after changes" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=264259 | 18:22 |
| yofel | well, I can't find anything yet that crashes here | 18:22 |
| shadeslayer | mgraesslin: ^^ that one? | 18:22 |
| mgraesslin | yes | 18:22 |
| mgraesslin | but we have more | 18:22 |
| mgraesslin | I am just going through my bug mails | 18:22 |
| shadeslayer | i dont have QT_GRAPHICSSYSTEM set anywhere | 18:22 |
| mgraesslin | it's probably set at compile time | 18:23 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: maybe break some more stuff in neon and set that var? :D | 18:23 |
| JontheEchidna | we have an xsession script in kubuntu-default-settings in natty that sets the env var | 18:24 |
| yofel | sure, add it, can't really get any worse ^^ | 18:24 |
| shadeslayer | mgraesslin: were enabling that 'feature' in neon .. so you'll still get bug reports .. but from devs :D | 18:24 |
| mgraesslin | which is not much of a help as we know it's broken ;-) | 18:25 |
| shadeslayer | hahah... :P | 18:25 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: maybe we could have something like : breakmyneon | 18:26 |
| mgraesslin | we just have a confirmance in #kwin from a gentoo user that switching to native fixed the issue | 18:26 |
| shadeslayer | that enables all sorts of experimental stuff | 18:26 |
| mgraesslin | Sput: did switching to native fix the issue you mentioned yesterday for you? | 18:27 |
| yofel | rather a config option somewhere | 18:27 |
| shadeslayer | mgraesslin: raster might have landed in backports | 18:27 |
| shadeslayer | JontheEchidna: ^^ ideas on that | 18:27 |
| mgraesslin | given the bug reports I would assume so | 18:28 |
| JontheEchidna | I don't think it would have unless you backported kubuntu-default-settings | 18:28 |
| shadeslayer | JontheEchidna: thats what im checking | 18:28 |
| shadeslayer | mgraesslin: or they could be using apachelogger KCM module to switch stuff | 18:28 |
| mgraesslin | yes could be | 18:28 |
| shadeslayer | s/apachelogger/apachelogger's | 18:28 |
| CIA-40 | [ubuntu] Jonathan Thomas <echidnaman@kubuntu.org> * echidnaman@kubuntu.org-20110130182909-h5vxfa2372u9004m * (etc/X11/Xsession.d/80qtgraphicssystem debian/changelog) Remove etc/X11/Xsession.d/80qtgraphicssystem, as upstream has reported it to cause "havoc" with the intel drivers | 18:29 |
| shadeslayer | nope | 18:29 |
| shadeslayer | mgraesslin: by default its still disabled in maverick | 18:29 |
| mgraesslin | so they probably used the KCM | 18:29 |
| shadeslayer | yep | 18:29 |
| shadeslayer | or all of them are running natty :P | 18:30 |
| yofel | hm... I need to use my eeePC more, that has natty and intel, but didn't seem broken to me... | 18:30 |
| JontheEchidna | I've done an upload disabling the env var being set in natty | 18:30 |
| mgraesslin | unlikely | 18:30 |
| JontheEchidna | gotta go in to town now, bbiab | 18:30 |
| shadeslayer | ciao | 18:30 |
| shadeslayer | im sleeping as well | 18:30 |
| apachelogger | hmmhmm | 18:38 |
| apachelogger | what does not cause havoc with teh intel drivers? | 18:38 |
| apachelogger | stupid intel -.- | 18:38 |
| yofel | everything | 18:40 |
| yofel | my eeePC even gives me 256 color depth today | 18:40 |
| afiestas | the current stack in Natty works very well here | 18:40 |
| yofel | call yourself lucky then | 18:41 |
| afiestas | in fact, my kde never worked so well and smooth | 18:41 |
| === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan | ||
| debfx | any kubuntu-devs around? apachelogger? | 19:05 |
| apachelogger | debfx: no | 19:30 |
| debfx | :P | 19:32 |
| debfx | apachelogger: could you please upload http://people.ubuntu.com/~debfx/synaptiks_0.4.0-1ubuntu3.debdiff | 19:33 |
| debfx | the package has been empty since the last upload but no one noticed it ^^ | 19:34 |
| apachelogger | debfx: not on a linux box right now | 19:35 |
| Quintasan | shadeslayer: The email on ML about libmarblewidget | 19:57 |
| Quintasan | did you get it sorted out | 19:57 |
| Quintasan | ? | 19:57 |
| JontheEchidna | yay, the 2.6.38 kernel can handle my laptop screen brightness properly | 20:28 |
| debfx | Quintasan: do you want your new upload powers to sponsor synaptiks? :) | 20:29 |
| ari-tczew | JontheEchidna: do you know whether 2.6.38 will be in natty? | 20:33 |
| JontheEchidna | ari-tczew: it's in right now | 20:39 |
| * ari-tczew is thinking why 2.6.37 still is in his natty. | 20:39 | |
| JontheEchidna | dunno. I have it and I'm even out of date :P http://i.imgur.com/ikF7V.png | 20:40 |
| apachelogger | arrr | 21:29 |
| apachelogger | debfx: did ye plunder get uploaded? | 21:29 |
| ryanakca | Could someone please use their superpowers and confirm/subscribe ubuntu-archive to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/knmap/+bug/710358 ? | 21:47 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 710358 in knmap (Ubuntu) "Please remove knmap from the archives" [Undecided,New] | 21:47 |
| debfx | apachelogger: thanks for uploading | 21:57 |
| debfx | ryanakca: done | 21:57 |
| ryanakca | debfx: Thanks | 22:05 |
| Riddell | debfx: seen http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/synaptiks?content=114270 ? | 22:39 |
| Riddell | being discussed in #debian-qt-kde | 22:39 |
| debfx | Riddell: rewritten in python, that's a package for apachelogger ;) | 22:47 |
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