[00:20] <DarkwingDuck> jjesse: ping
[00:22] <apachelogger> I am getting to old for staying out all night and getting wasted
[00:23] <apachelogger> life is rather cruel
[00:23] <DarkwingDuck> lol Hey apachelogger 
[00:23] <DarkwingDuck> Natty hate VirtualBox on my system
[00:23] <apachelogger> yo DarkwingDuck
[00:23] <stalcup> my computer hates linux :(
[00:23] <DarkwingDuck> :(
[00:24]  * stalcup wants a new computer
[00:24] <DarkwingDuck> Linux runs just fine... it's VirtualBox that hates me
[00:24] <DarkwingDuck> I swear
[00:24] <apachelogger> use qemu
[00:24] <DarkwingDuck> qemu?
[00:24] <apachelogger> stalcup: join some price game thing?
[00:24] <stalcup> I have to use virtual box to do my linux stuff
[00:24] <stalcup> apachelogger: good idear
[00:24] <apachelogger> DarkwingDuck: not-oracle virtualisation ;)
[00:25] <DarkwingDuck> Oh nice
[00:25]  * apachelogger thinks he needs another round of drugs
[00:25] <stalcup> ohmy
[00:25] <DarkwingDuck> apachelogger: anything non-oracle would be good
[00:25] <apachelogger> trying all day to recover from last night
[00:25] <DarkwingDuck> apachelogger: is it in the repository?
[00:26] <apachelogger> qemu?
[00:26] <apachelogger> sure
[00:27] <apachelogger> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VciwWFpDwY
[00:27] <apachelogger> one day I will get an alarm clock that throws depeche mode at me
[00:27] <apachelogger> oh, imagine how awesome waking up must be like that...
[00:27] <jjesse> just write a script so amarok does it for you :P
[00:28] <apachelogger> sure
[00:28] <apachelogger> and then amarok crashes or memleaks and stuff
[00:28] <apachelogger> and then I do not wake up and stuff
[00:28] <apachelogger> I'd rather trust shadeslayer with all my money
[00:28] <apachelogger> ooh
[00:29] <apachelogger> seems I missed LinuxTag call for papers thanks to drinking
[00:29]  * v waits for maco comment on nick changes
[00:33] <stalcup> done, i promise
[00:39] <DarkwingDuck> ohhh goody.... something more involved
[00:39]  * DarkwingDuck goes to read up on qemu
[00:54] <jjesse> DarkwingDuck working on something fuN?
[00:54] <DarkwingDuck> jjesse: trying to get Natty to run in a VM
[00:55] <jjesse> me 2
[00:56] <jjesse> i can get ubuntu natty to run but right now my kubuntu natty boots to a black screen
[00:57] <DarkwingDuck> yeah, that's what mine was doing.
[00:57] <apachelogger> I recon the new xorg arrived :P
[00:58] <DarkwingDuck> I'm reinstalling it as the pure Alpha1 and try it from there.
[00:58] <jjesse> yup, now on updated ubuntu natty it goes to black screen
[00:58] <jjesse> that was the most current daily + update
[00:58] <DarkwingDuck> So, do not update theh xorg package... Got ya
[01:05] <jjesse> apparently
[01:06] <jjesse> would be nice if there was notification someplace
[01:10]  * DarkwingDuck agrees
[01:11] <DarkwingDuck> If only we had a tool tha we could use to tell people when things like this happened...
[01:12] <jjesse> hrmm like twitter?
[01:12] <DarkwingDuck> Or something that would send a message out to everyone
[01:12] <DarkwingDuck> Like a mailing list... </sarcasm>
[01:12] <jjesse> like a mailing list :)
[01:12] <DarkwingDuck> :D
[01:16] <DarkwingDuck> Why does the Doc maillist get the user help emails?
[01:22] <jjesse> because of the way the help section is written i believe
[01:22] <DarkwingDuck> Sweet mother of god.
[01:22] <DarkwingDuck> Here is that wonderful error
[01:23] <jjesse> in X?
[01:23] <DarkwingDuck> No, the alpha1
[01:23] <DarkwingDuck> console-setup is in a broken state
[01:24]  * DarkwingDuck sighs
[01:26] <DarkwingDuck> jjesse: in VirtualBox how would I trigger tty1?
[01:26] <jjesse> hrmm if you have full control of the vm same as normal right?
[01:27] <DarkwingDuck> Just the mouseover control
[01:27] <jjesse> hrm
[01:27] <DarkwingDuck> It triggers the host.
[01:27] <jjesse> don't know then off the top of my head
[01:28] <DarkwingDuck> :/
[01:36] <DarkwingDuck> hmz
[01:38] <DarkwingDuck> Well, it's a good thing I didn't install 11.04 on my lappy
[01:41] <apachelogger> DarkwingDuck: X change was announced on either ubuntu-devel or ubuntu-devel-announce
[01:42] <DarkwingDuck> ahhhhh, the side I'm not subscribed to...
[01:42]  * DarkwingDuck goes to subscribe to those lists.
[02:45] <aditirex> did something broke in kernel on today's updates ?
[02:46] <jjesse> nope its X
[02:46] <aditirex> or X ...
[02:47] <aditirex> so how can I revert it ?
[02:48] <jjesse> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2011-January/032355.html
[02:54] <aditirex> thks
[05:03] <DarkwingDuck> Okay, that link explain what was going on but for those of us testing with black screens... Is there way to fix it for now or, wait for the fix?
[05:55] <valorie> hey DarkwingDuck
[05:56] <DarkwingDuck> Hye valorie 
[05:56] <valorie> you got as far last night as telling me to install bzr
[05:56] <valorie> which I did
[05:56] <DarkwingDuck> don't update your alpha 1
[05:56] <DarkwingDuck> :P
[05:56] <valorie> anything special I should be reading, or ?
[05:56] <valorie> i'm not brave enough for Natty yet
[05:56] <valorie> I gotta USE this puter
[05:57] <valorie> and VMs -- no luck so far
[05:57] <valorie> I mean I got one set up, but never installed kub. successfully in it
[05:57]  * DarkwingDuck nods
[05:57] <valorie> turns out that was due to a bug, but that's as far as I ever got, testing
[05:58] <DarkwingDuck> valorie: gimme a sec
[06:06] <DarkwingDuck> valorie: you know anything about HTML?
[06:10] <valorie> yes, I'm reasonably good
[06:11] <valorie> I code my pages by hand, etc.
[06:13] <DarkwingDuck> okay good.
[06:13] <DarkwingDuck> make a folder for kubuntu docs where you will find it.
[06:14] <valorie> done
[06:15] <DarkwingDuck> navigate to it in konsole
[06:17] <valorie> ok, there
[06:17] <valorie> :~/Documents/KubuntuDocs$ 
[06:18] <DarkwingDuck> now
[06:18] <DarkwingDuck> type the following: bzr branch lp:kubuntu-docs
[06:20] <valorie> You have not informed bzr of your Launchpad ID, and you must do this to
[06:20] <valorie> write to Launchpad or access private data.  See "bzr help launchpad-login".
[06:20] <valorie> it is downloading, though
[06:20] <valorie> I think I have a lp id
[06:20] <valorie> I have an account
[06:21] <DarkwingDuck> It's okay... you wont be uploading anything from there.
[06:21] <valorie> https://launchpad.net/~valorie-zimmerman
[06:21] <valorie> ok
[06:22] <valorie> alrighty, it's done downloading
[06:22] <valorie> Branched 199 revision(s). 
[06:22] <DarkwingDuck> Yup
[06:23] <DarkwingDuck> Before you check spells, grammer ect you will want to check for new revisions.
[06:23] <DarkwingDuck> each time.
[06:23] <DarkwingDuck> the command for that is bzr update
[06:23] <DarkwingDuck> in cd docs is where the docs are listed.
[06:23] <valorie> so cd to kubdocs, and bzr update
[06:24] <DarkwingDuck> yup
[06:24] <DarkwingDuck> current revision is 199
[06:24] <DarkwingDuck> They are XML files.
[06:24] <DarkwingDuck> so, the about file is under about/C/about.xml
[06:25] <DarkwingDuck> When you open and edit them the simpliest thigns to do is to edit them and save them to a secondary spot to email to myself or jjesse
[06:25] <DarkwingDuck> So you don't mess up your revisions
[06:26] <valorie> email to both of you, or ?
[06:26] <DarkwingDuck> One of the other 
[06:26] <DarkwingDuck> of/or
[06:27] <valorie> ok, so maybe ask who is available
[06:27] <DarkwingDuck> my email is david.wonderly@kubuntu.org
[06:27] <valorie> and jjesse?
[06:27] <DarkwingDuck> uhhhhh.... I'll have to look it up
[06:28] <valorie> I can email from valorie.zimmerman@kubuntu.org if that will help keep everything ship-shape
[06:28] <DarkwingDuck> jjesse[@]gmail
[06:29] <DarkwingDuck> Now, when we file a doc as DONE in https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo/Natty thats when it's ready for review
[06:30] <DarkwingDuck> :D
[06:30] <DarkwingDuck> I need to figure out over the next couple days what docs are done and what needs to be done.
[06:30] <DarkwingDuck> So we can update that page.
[06:31] <DarkwingDuck> and with that.. the wife is calling... I bid thee all g'night
[06:31] <valorie> niters
[06:31] <DarkwingDuck> too confusing valorie?
[06:31] <valorie> well, I don't know how to access the docs
[06:32] <valorie> or edit them
[06:32] <valorie> use kate?
[06:32] <DarkwingDuck> kubuntu-docs/docs/topicfolder/C/docname.xml
[06:32] <DarkwingDuck> Yes, you can use kate
[06:33] <DarkwingDuck> So, example of the about.xml doc... it will be in kubuntu-docs/about/C/about.xml
[06:35] <valorie> question -- I now have the above doc open in kate
[06:35] <DarkwingDuck> Aye
[06:36] <valorie> where can I see what that doc looks like as published?
[06:37] <valorie> I'm keeping notes about this in kate, as well
[06:37] <valorie> and no, so far nothing is confusing
[06:38] <valorie> oh, sec
[06:38] <DarkwingDuck> ??
[06:43] <valorie> sorry, when the old dog wants out of bed, it has to be now
[06:43] <DarkwingDuck> :D
[06:43] <valorie> or it means a cleanup job
[06:43] <DarkwingDuck> I'll catch ya tomorrow night.
[06:43] <valorie> and I've already done that once tonight!
[06:43] <valorie> he just turned 16
[06:44] <valorie> niters -- I'll poke around a bit
[06:44] <valorie> thanks for the help
[06:45] <DarkwingDuck> Anytime valorie 
[07:23] <jussi> Morning all
[07:23] <jussi> DarkwingDuck: long time no see!
[07:27] <jussi> So, Im on the kde 4.6 from the ppa, (4.5.95 - beta 2) and I'm getting the following error with kajong:  * kajongg is not correctly installed: modules: No module named animation
[07:28] <valorie> I get the same error, jussi
[07:28] <jussi> do we think its a packaging, or upstream error?
[07:29] <valorie> I've never started it up before, so no clue here
[07:29] <yofel> hm, happens too here in natty http://paste.kde.org/3685/
[07:29] <valorie> maybe #kde will know?
[07:32] <valorie> heh, #kde-devel , I should have said
[07:34] <yofel> the source has animation.py
[07:35] <yofel> I'll check what list-missing shows
[07:41] <jussi> yofel: thanks :)
[07:41] <jussi> (I miss my mahjong )
[07:48] <yofel> yeap
[07:48] <yofel> -./usr/share/kde4/apps/kajongg/animation.py
[07:48] <yofel> not the only one it seems
[07:48] <yofel> they drown a bit in the .pyc list :S http://paste.kde.org/3686/
[08:23] <yofel> better
[08:24] <yofel> no, still fails..
[13:21] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: i'd be spending all your moniez on neon and conf.kde.in
[13:24] <apachelogger> :O
[13:24] <apachelogger> scary
[13:24] <shadeslayer> i hope they aren't space bucks
[13:25] <shadeslayer> oh maybe buy some more bandwidth for myself too :P
[13:25] <apachelogger> you are a selfish person
[13:25] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: i have like ... 256kbps of bandwidth
[13:26] <shadeslayer> took me 3 hours to download alll of neon
[13:26] <shadeslayer> -l
[13:26] <apachelogger> because you are not lzmaing it
[13:26] <shadeslayer> actually we are
[13:26] <shadeslayer> im pretty sure we use lzma compression in rules
[13:27] <apachelogger> then you did something wrong
[13:27] <apachelogger> also my feet are cold
[13:27] <apachelogger> also I am hungry
[13:27] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: thats why the download is 500 MB and the install size is 1.5GB
[13:27]  * apachelogger shall go out find something to eat
[13:27]  * shadeslayer passes some chips to apachelogger
[13:27] <shadeslayer> apachelogger:         dh_builddeb -- -Z lzma
[13:28] <shadeslayer> we have that in our rules file
[13:28] <apachelogger> you only have one rules file? :O
[13:29] <shadeslayer> thats all that is needed ... one debian/rules
[13:29] <shadeslayer> [ for each package ]
[14:00] <shadeslayer> Riddell: your brand new thinkpad has a bazillion fingerprints :S
[14:01] <shadeslayer> or is it the lighting
[15:05] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: he probably already had tea on it and stuff :P
[15:05] <apachelogger> I sure would have ^^
[15:05] <shadeslayer> hahaha :D
[15:06] <shadeslayer> now i have to write a article on Net neutrality
[15:06] <shadeslayer> *sigh
[15:07] <apachelogger> oh
[15:07] <apachelogger> ah
[15:07] <apachelogger> why is it that mvo has a shitty looking software center
[15:07] <apachelogger> that is a bit scary
[15:07] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: what is net neutrality?
[15:09] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: its ISP's being evil and charging you for each GB of pr0n you download
[15:09] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2010/12/its-here-fcc-adopts-net-neutrality-lite.ars
[15:10] <shadeslayer> its come to india as well
[15:10] <shadeslayer> and im once again in the future
[15:12] <apachelogger> what what what?
[15:12] <apachelogger> charging you per pr0n?!?!?!
[15:12] <apachelogger> wtf
[15:12] <apachelogger> that is death of the intarwebs right there
[15:12] <shadeslayer> yes it is
[15:13] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: google it and you'll see loads of articles
[15:13] <apachelogger> I do not like reading
[15:13] <apachelogger> also I think I will play a computer game
[15:14] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: a friend is interested in Java + KDE
[15:14] <shadeslayer> any suggestions ?
[15:15] <apachelogger> yep
[15:15] <apachelogger> lock him away
[15:15] <apachelogger> hold on
[15:15] <apachelogger> that was not english, was it?
[15:15] <apachelogger> s/away/up
[15:15] <apachelogger> sounds better anyway
[15:15] <apachelogger> so
[15:15] <shadeslayer> hehe
[15:15]  * apachelogger looks for game to play
[15:16] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: Steam
[16:46] <JontheEchidna> http://i.imgur.com/otzaP.png
[16:47] <JontheEchidna> http://i.imgur.com/Zstz0.png
[16:48] <shadeslayer> i prefer the oxygen icons for debs
[16:49] <shadeslayer> call me old fashioned ... but i just like them P
[16:49] <shadeslayer> :P
[16:49] <JontheEchidna> those are the oxygen icons for .debs since 4.6
[16:50] <yofel> indeed, look odd
[16:50] <yofel> where did you get the icon extraction from?
[16:51] <JontheEchidna> https://projects.kde.org/projects/extragear/sysadmin/libqapt/repository/revisions/master/changes/src/debfile.cpp
[16:51] <JontheEchidna> It takes the app icon and then overlays it against the application-x-deb mimetype icon
[16:52] <JontheEchidna> I'm contemplating whether or not I want to have the mimetype icon in the background at all, or just have the app icon by itself
[16:52] <JontheEchidna> better link: https://projects.kde.org/projects/extragear/sysadmin/libqapt/repository/revisions/master/entry/src/debfile.cpp
[16:54] <JontheEchidna> oh, it seems like the kde plugin system automatically gives me an overlay of the mimetype icon in the bottom right corner: http://i.imgur.com/80N7o.png
[17:01] <JontheEchidna> looks better now I think: http://i.imgur.com/OM5F5.png
[17:02] <shadeslayer> i still prefer my deb icons
[17:02] <shadeslayer> :P
[17:11] <ximion> JontheEchidna: cool!
[17:12] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: how is performance?
[17:13] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: tried out Neon yet?
[17:13] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: it got through 108 files in under 5 seconds, so pretty good I think
[17:13] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: no, I am developing windows nowadays
[17:13] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: sweet
[17:14] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: rm -rf /media/Windows -> now thats Development
[17:14] <JontheEchidna> I'm still playing with the thumbnail picture
[17:15] <JontheEchidna> xpm's don't like being scaled, though: http://i.imgur.com/fiOcJ.png
[17:15] <JontheEchidna> I'm thinking I should only use those as a fallback
[17:18] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: most definitely
[17:18] <apachelogger> stupid xpm is way too horrible :P
[17:19] <ximion> JontheEchidna: have you heard of the AppStream project already?
[17:19] <JontheEchidna> ximion: I saw glatzor's blog about it
[17:20] <ximion> ah
[17:21] <ximion> at the miniconf, it was decided to use the USC as cross-distro software-center...
[17:21] <JontheEchidna> yeah, that's great for the gnomes I guess
[17:21] <ximion> since USC is for GNOME, I took a look at how MSC works...
[17:21] <apachelogger> usc?
[17:21] <ximion> you don't use Xapian directly, do you?
[17:22] <ximion> usc => ubuntu software center
[17:22] <JontheEchidna> only for package searching
[17:22] <apachelogger> kk
[17:22] <JontheEchidna> otherwise I use the .desktop files in app-install-data
[17:22] <JontheEchidna> iirc USC has some xapian indexer plugin that goes over those .desktop files
[17:22] <JontheEchidna> and uses xapian for everything
[17:22] <JontheEchidna> but
[17:23] <JontheEchidna> MSC is faster than USC, so... ;=)
[17:23] <JontheEchidna> *;-)
[17:23]  * yofel wonders if that's what keeps usc running for minutes using 100% CPU after closing it...
[17:24] <ximion> ok... hmm, this makes it difficult to use it as cross-distro software center :P (I'm just playing with all this stuff at time to find sane solutions to handle 3rd-party apps...)
[17:24] <ximion> yofel: Might be the aptdaemon python tool
[17:24] <ximion> btw: http://blogs.gnome.org/hughsie/2011/01/24/application-installer-miniconf-trip-report/
[17:24] <ximion> AppStream will become awesome, if everything works out as planned :)
[17:25] <ximion> JontheEchidna: MSC definitely is faster, but I thought it was because of C++ vs. Python...
[17:25] <JontheEchidna> well, there's that too of course :P
[17:25] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: around?
[17:25] <shadeslayer> i need some advice
[17:25] <JontheEchidna> though xapian is pretty fast for searching, maybe it is just the pyth0rn
[17:25] <shadeslayer> how do i check if there is form data on a page?
[17:26] <shadeslayer> darn it ... why did i not see  KWebWallet::acceptSaveFormDataRequest earlier
[17:28] <JontheEchidna> Comparing the time it takes in each app to open the "Installed Software" view would be a pretty good comparison between xapian query and my C++ class for Application data
[17:30] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: oh and btw, I've finished the backend bits needed for adding .debs that you downloaded from another computer to the cache, so that you can install things without internet access
[17:32] <JontheEchidna> For a frontend, I plan on adding a menu item for the internetless computer to export a list of packages to download, and a GUI for the internet'd computer to download them to the USB stick
[17:32] <JontheEchidna> and then a menu item to open up a dialog to add archives from the USB stick
[17:33] <JontheEchidna> it'll be much better than Synaptic's wget script :P
 apachelogger: oh and btw, I've finished the backend bits needed for adding .debs that you downloaded from another computer to the cache, so that you can install things without internet access
[17:34] <shadeslayer> AWESOME ^^^
[17:55] <DarkwingDuck> jussi: ping
[17:57] <Quintasan_> Riddell, shadeslayer, yofel: I'm ill, don't count on me on anything at least till Wednesday
[17:58] <yofel> oh, get well soon :)
[18:00] <jussi> DarkwingDuck: yes? 
[18:01] <DarkwingDuck> jussi: long time no see back at ya! :P:P
[18:01] <jussi> yofel: any luck with kahjongg? 
[18:01] <DarkwingDuck> jussi: I've been without a working computer for a bit... back now though
[18:01] <jussi> excellent. mhows the GMS  going? 
[18:03] <DarkwingDuck> jussi: seeing that I got this thing less then a week ago I'm still trying to get things built back onto it.
[18:04] <yofel> no, I messed the package I had up, so had to start fresh, but even with all installed filed added it still doesn't work, so it seems the install script for kajongg is broken
[18:04] <yofel> s/filed/files/
[18:04] <kubotu> yofel meant: "no, I messed the package I had up, so had to start fresh, but even with all installed files added it still doesn't work, so it seems the install script for kajongg is broken"
[18:05] <shadeslayer> Quintasan_: get well soon :)
[18:07] <yofel> jussi: thanks for reminding me though, I'll look at it again
[18:16] <afiestas> what d I have to install to get video thumbnails? (I'm using Natty)
[18:16] <shadeslayer> afiestas: one sec
[18:17] <shadeslayer> afiestas: ffmpegthumbnailer
[18:17] <shadeslayer> or rather kffmpegthumbnailer
[18:18] <afiestas> ookiz, thanks
[18:18] <mgraesslin> shadeslayer: are you using graphicssystem raster as default, now?
[18:19] <shadeslayer> nopety nope
[18:19] <shadeslayer> openoffice doesnt like raster
[18:19] <mgraesslin> good
[18:19] <shadeslayer> buggy?
[18:19] <mgraesslin> also not in the 4.6 ppa for Maverick?
[18:19] <mgraesslin> causing mavock with Intel drivers
[18:19] <shadeslayer> ah
[18:20] <mgraesslin> and we have several ubuntu reports
[18:20] <JontheEchidna> it is default in natty. should we revert?
[18:20] <mgraesslin> that's why I asked
[18:20] <shadeslayer> JontheEchidna: wait .. it is? 
[18:20] <shadeslayer> im on maverick
[18:20] <afiestas> on Natty it is
[18:20] <JontheEchidna> yes, we were testing it out for natty and were waiting for feedback
[18:20] <yofel> how does one check if it's enabled?
[18:20] <JontheEchidna> looks like we have feedback :o)
[18:20] <shadeslayer> aha ... then there's your feedback :P
[18:21] <yofel> ah QT_GRAPHICSSYSTEM=raster
[18:21] <mgraesslin> bug 264259
[18:21] <shadeslayer> kde bug 264259
[18:22] <yofel> well, I can't find anything yet that crashes here
[18:22] <shadeslayer> mgraesslin: ^^ that one?
[18:22] <mgraesslin> yes
[18:22] <mgraesslin> but we have more
[18:22] <mgraesslin> I am just going through my bug mails
[18:22] <shadeslayer> i dont have QT_GRAPHICSSYSTEM set anywhere
[18:23] <mgraesslin> it's probably set at compile time
[18:23] <shadeslayer> yofel: maybe break some more stuff in neon and set that var? :D
[18:24] <JontheEchidna> we have an xsession script in kubuntu-default-settings in natty that sets the env var
[18:24] <yofel> sure, add it, can't really get any worse ^^
[18:24] <shadeslayer> mgraesslin: were enabling that 'feature' in neon .. so you'll still get bug reports .. but from devs :D
[18:25] <mgraesslin> which is not much of a help as we know it's broken ;-)
[18:25] <shadeslayer> hahah... :P
[18:26] <shadeslayer> yofel: maybe we could have something like : breakmyneon
[18:26] <mgraesslin> we just have a confirmance in #kwin from a gentoo user that switching to native fixed the issue
[18:26] <shadeslayer> that enables all sorts of experimental stuff
[18:27] <mgraesslin> Sput: did switching to native fix the issue you mentioned yesterday for you?
[18:27] <yofel> rather a config option somewhere
[18:27] <shadeslayer> mgraesslin: raster might have landed in backports
[18:27] <shadeslayer> JontheEchidna: ^^ ideas on that
[18:28] <mgraesslin> given the bug reports I would assume so
[18:28] <JontheEchidna> I don't think it would have unless you backported kubuntu-default-settings
[18:28] <shadeslayer> JontheEchidna: thats what im checking
[18:28] <shadeslayer> mgraesslin: or they could be using apachelogger KCM module to switch stuff
[18:28] <mgraesslin> yes could be
[18:28] <shadeslayer> s/apachelogger/apachelogger's
[18:29] <CIA-40> [ubuntu] Jonathan Thomas <echidnaman@kubuntu.org> * echidnaman@kubuntu.org-20110130182909-h5vxfa2372u9004m * (etc/X11/Xsession.d/80qtgraphicssystem debian/changelog) Remove etc/X11/Xsession.d/80qtgraphicssystem, as upstream has reported it to cause "havoc" with the intel drivers
[18:29] <shadeslayer> nope
[18:29] <shadeslayer> mgraesslin: by default its still disabled in maverick
[18:29] <mgraesslin> so they probably used the KCM
[18:29] <shadeslayer> yep
[18:30] <shadeslayer> or all of them are running natty :P
[18:30] <yofel> hm... I need to use my eeePC more, that has natty and intel, but didn't seem broken to me...
[18:30] <JontheEchidna> I've done an upload disabling the env var being set in natty
[18:30] <mgraesslin> unlikely
[18:30] <JontheEchidna> gotta go in to town now, bbiab
[18:30] <shadeslayer> ciao
[18:30] <shadeslayer> im sleeping as well
[18:38] <apachelogger> hmmhmm
[18:38] <apachelogger> what does not cause havoc with teh intel drivers?
[18:38] <apachelogger> stupid intel -.-
[18:40] <yofel> everything
[18:40] <yofel> my eeePC even gives me 256 color depth today
[18:40] <afiestas> the current stack in Natty works very well here
[18:41] <yofel> call yourself lucky then
[18:41] <afiestas> in fact, my kde never worked so well and smooth
[19:05] <debfx> any kubuntu-devs around? apachelogger?
[19:30] <apachelogger> debfx: no
[19:32] <debfx> :P
[19:33] <debfx> apachelogger: could you please upload http://people.ubuntu.com/~debfx/synaptiks_0.4.0-1ubuntu3.debdiff
[19:34] <debfx> the package has been empty since the last upload but no one noticed it ^^
[19:35] <apachelogger> debfx: not on a linux box right now
[19:57] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: The email on ML about libmarblewidget
[19:57] <Quintasan> did you get it sorted out
[19:57] <Quintasan> ?
[20:28] <JontheEchidna> yay, the 2.6.38 kernel can handle my laptop screen brightness properly
[20:29] <debfx> Quintasan: do you want your new upload powers to sponsor synaptiks? :)
[20:33] <ari-tczew> JontheEchidna: do you know whether 2.6.38 will be in natty?
[20:39] <JontheEchidna> ari-tczew: it's in right now
[20:39]  * ari-tczew is thinking why 2.6.37 still is in his natty.
[20:40] <JontheEchidna> dunno. I have it and I'm even out of date :P http://i.imgur.com/ikF7V.png
[21:29] <apachelogger> arrr
[21:29] <apachelogger> debfx: did ye plunder get uploaded?
[21:47] <ryanakca> Could someone please use their superpowers and confirm/subscribe ubuntu-archive to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/knmap/+bug/710358 ?
[21:57] <debfx> apachelogger: thanks for uploading
[21:57] <debfx> ryanakca: done
[22:05] <ryanakca> debfx: Thanks
[22:39] <Riddell> debfx: seen http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/synaptiks?content=114270 ?
[22:39] <Riddell> being discussed in #debian-qt-kde
[22:47] <debfx> Riddell: rewritten in python, that's a package for apachelogger ;)