[00:00] <Tm_T> BajK_: it does, on hard disk part
[00:00] <Daskreech> FarhanBuriro: install anyone
[00:01] <FarhanBuriro> Daskreech, ok its downloading 245 package files
[00:01] <BajK_> Tm_T: ah kay
[00:01] <BajK_> Tm_T: but not in the ram section though
[00:01] <Daskreech> FarhanBuriro: sounds about right
[00:02] <Daskreech> evilmole: Help FarhanBuriro I gotta go
[00:02] <Daskreech> BajK_: Bye!
[00:02] <evilmole> lol k
[00:02] <Tm_T> BajK_: it can't, and that's only a good thing I'd say
[00:02] <FarhanBuriro> Daskreech, bye
[00:02] <evilmole> FarhanBuriro: i can try to help if u have any questions
[00:03] <evilmole> basically you are installing KDE now...
[00:03] <Daskreech> FarhanBuriro: This is a generally quiet but quite helpful room if you want to ask any Linux questions
[00:03] <BajK_> Daskreech: bye^^
[00:03] <Daskreech> Later!
[00:03] <evilmole> when you reboot now before you log in you will have the option to select whcih environment to load
[00:03] <evilmole> chose KDE and your life will be great
[00:03] <Daskreech> evilmole: should be able to just log out and back in again
[00:03] <evilmole> yeah... reboot method is more fool proof
[00:03] <evilmole> lol
[00:04] <FarhanBuriro> Daskreech, i am sure now i have come on right place for help
[00:04] <BajK_> Tm_T: it doesnt show the ramdrive in the hard disk part, just the individual partitions of both hard disks and where they are mounted as well as the picture card reader and dvd burner
[00:04] <veluxes> hm i cant install kubuntu-resrticted-extras...what do i do now?
[00:04] <veluxes> hm i cant install kubuntu-resrticted-extras...what do i do now?
[00:05] <evilmole> veluxes: i saw your post... shouldn't have quit
[00:05] <evilmole> can you type
[00:05] <Tm_T> BajK_: that's the thing, ramdisk/ramdrive should be just a mounted partition?
[00:05] <BajK_> o.O thoughts of a linux guy..^^
[00:05] <evilmole> sudo apt-get install openjdk-6-jre
[00:06] <tsimpson> BajK_: are you sure you mounted /tmp as a ramdrive?
[00:06] <BajK_> tsimpson: yes
[00:06] <BajK_> tmpfs on /tmp type tmpfs (rw, nosuid, nodev, noatime, mode=1777)
[00:08] <veluxes> its the same error...i also tried sudo apt get -f install but it wont work i allways get dpkg-deb --fsys-tarfile returned error exit status 2
[00:09] <evilmole> veluxes: umm... have you done a apt-get update recently?
[00:10] <evilmole> also you can try this: sudo aptitude install openjdk-6-jre
[00:11] <veluxes> just tried to update and i get that error again
[00:12] <tsimpson> BajK_: looks like KInfoCenter only lists partitions (not mounts)
[00:12] <veluxes> i dont have aptitude and cant install it...
[00:12] <evilmole> veluxes: do u have this installed openjdk-6-jdk
[00:12] <evilmole> possible sudo apt-get remove openjdk-6-jdk
[00:13] <veluxes> no i dont have it..
[00:14] <evilmole> can you install that?
[00:14] <evilmole> possible sudo apt-get install openjdk-6-jdk
[00:14] <veluxes> no same error...
[00:14] <evilmole> try it with aptitude?
[00:15] <evilmole> i can see that -jdk and -jre conflic with each other
[00:16] <evilmole> sudo apt-get remove openjdk-*
[00:16] <evilmole> that might help you start from scratrch
[00:18] <veluxes> no it wont install or remove anything because of this...
[00:20] <evilmole> lol
[00:20] <stalcup> 4
[00:20] <evilmole> and u tried sudo apt-get install -f
[00:22] <evilmole> u can also try this command sudo aptitude why-not openjdk-6-jre
[00:22] <evilmole> not that i've used it.. but might give u a more comprehensible output
[00:22] <stalcup> sudo dpkg -if /var/cache/apt/archives/packagename
[00:26] <stalcup> 2
[00:39] <trialsman> hello
[00:46] <progre55> hi guys. Using kubuntu 10.10, and every time after I run vmware workstation (win xp) my alt key stops working on my host.. even after I shut vmware down.. any suggestions, please?
[00:46] <evilmole> does dmesg spit anything out when you tap the key?
[00:47] <progre55> hmm.. let me see
[00:47] <veluxes> i did the dpkg -f ....openjdk-6-doc and it gives me a package discription but still cant un/install something..
[00:49] <progre55> evilmole: nope.. but apparently the alt key itself works (for instance when backspacing holding alt) but some combinations like "alt+tab" or "alt+f4" dont work..
[00:49] <evilmole> does ctrl+escape do something?
[00:49] <progre55> ctrl+escape opens the task manager..
[00:50] <evilmole> umm, i'm wondering if vmware is crashed out in the background
[00:50] <evilmole> are you sure it's gone from the process list?
[00:50] <progre55> let me check
[00:50] <progre55> oh, apparently not..
[00:51] <evilmole> veluxes... just need to figure out what pacakge to remove... not sure how yet...  maybe some more expert can help
[00:52] <progre55> these are the processes left after I've shut down vmware http://pastie.org/1510382
[00:53] <evilmole> i'm not sure the key combo to release keys from vmware back to kde
[00:53] <evilmole> what is that?
[00:53] <evilmole> did u try using vmware and releasing keys while it's running and trying alt+tab
[00:55] <progre55> the key combo is ctrl+alt
[00:56] <progre55> let me start vmware again, and try releasing the keys..
[00:57] <progre55> nope.. alt+tab works in the guest machine, but not on kde..
[00:58] <evilmole> lol
[00:58] <evilmole> umm
[00:58] <evilmole> sounds like a vmware oddity
[00:58] <evilmole> did u try using qemu and see if u have same problem?
[01:00] <progre55> well, apparently I'm not the only one having this problem ) http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=843410
[01:00] <progre55> let me try reading some posts and googling )
[01:02] <evilmole> yeah definitely sounds like vmware is being mean for sure
[01:02] <evilmole> echo "give me back my keyboard" > /proc/vmware/input
[01:03] <progre55> and will it? ))
[01:07] <progre55> well, "setxkbmap" seems to have returned my alt key back )
[01:07] <progre55> and finally alt+tab works =)
[02:09] <Bloodhawk> I've been having trouble with my sound controls for a couple of days now; when I turn down the master channel to 0%, media continues to produce sound. Muting works fine, but it's causing issues with volume levels, acting as if the master channel is an amplifier beyond normal volumes. Anyone know how I can fix this?
[02:29] <mjobin> anyone playing kpat/spider at hardest difficulty ?
[04:03] <Bloodhawk> I've been having trouble with my sound controls for a couple of days now; when I turn down the master channel to 0%, media continues to produce sound. Muting works fine, but it's causing issues with volume levels, acting as if the master channel is an amplifier beyond normal volumes. Anyone know how I can fix this?
[04:12] <evilmole> Bloodhawk: what are you using for your volume controls?
[04:16] <Bloodhawk> evilmole: sorry, my ISP decided to drop the ball tonight, whole house has been having issues, did my post go through?
[04:17] <c2tarun> can anyone please help me in setting up background for grub menu.
[04:17] <evilmole> no i missed it
[04:17] <Bloodhawk> evilmole: HDA NVidia is what appears at the top of the window.
[04:18] <evilmole> yeah
[04:18] <evilmole> but how are you changing sound... from within kde?
[05:32] <Daughain> Anyone install android sdk under 10.10?
[05:36] <chessclub> can someone help me configure my box to connect to my wireless network.... for some reason it wont connect and it doesnt give me any errors
[05:39] <chessclub> oh i am an idiot
[05:39] <chessclub> fixed it
[07:54] <bigbrovar> Morning folks
[08:23] <tdn> I have just installed Kubuntu 10.10 on my laptop. For some reason wifi does not wokr. I cannot even see knetworkmanager. This has worked out of the box as long as I can remember, but for some reason does not in 10.10.
[08:38] <tdn> How do I make wifi work?
[08:54] <yofel> tdn: maverick uses the network management plasma widget, check in the systray settings if it's enabled
[09:00] <tdn> yofel, there is nothing in the systray about network.
[09:00] <tdn> yofel, what to look for?
[09:01] <yofel> there should be under display -> extra items -> networkmanagement (is plasma-widget-networkmanagement installed?)
[09:02] <yofel> or network-manager-kde ?
[09:18] <tdn> yofel, I had to manually add the widget. Now it is there. I will check if it works.
[09:22] <tdn> yofel, it seems to be working. However, I added the widget myself. So it is not in systray. Just in the panel. I cannot drag it into systray. How do I fix this?
[09:23] <yofel> you need to add it there from the systray settings
[09:25] <tdn> yofel, ok. That gave me two.
[09:26] <yofel> remove the other one then, should leave the one in the systray enabled
[09:26] <tdn> Thanks.
[09:27] <CuBe0wL> hi all! I'm considering migrating my work laptop from debian to kubuntu, though I have a few questions
[09:28] <CuBe0wL> 1: for work purposes, shall I install maverick or natty?
[09:28] <tdn> Appearently 10.10 uses the nouveau driver. This driver makes my laptop very hot. How do I fix this?
[09:28] <tdn> CuBe0wL, depends on what your work is.
[09:28] <CuBe0wL> I know natty is still in development, but I use testing as debian anyway, so I'm ok with some small instability
[09:28] <tdn> CuBe0wL, if stability is important I would say go with lucid. It is LTS.
[09:29] <tdn> CuBe0wL, debian testing is much much more stable than ubuntu.
[09:29] <CuBe0wL> tdn, medical research, mostly it'd be lots of reading of pdf and use of libreoffice
[09:29] <yofel> tdn: run jockey-kde and install the nvidia driver
[09:30] <CuBe0wL> also: can I somehow turn off sudo? dunno why, but I just used to "su"
[09:30] <tdn> yofel, which one? There are two?
[09:30] <yofel> CuBe0wL: while kubuntu natty runs rather fine on my notebook, there is not guarantee that it won't break horribly at any point, natty is more like debian unstable with a bit experimental
[09:30] <yofel> tdn: the one where it says recommended
[09:30] <CuBe0wL> yofel, so I should go with maverick, with 4.6 backports
[09:31] <tdn> yofel, ok. I will try that.
[09:31] <CuBe0wL> my reason for migration is KDE4 4.6 btw.
[09:31] <yofel> CuBe0wL: there is no root password by default for security reasons, while it's not recommended, you can use 'sudo passwd' to set a root password
[09:31] <yofel> CuBe0wL: maverick with 4.6 would probably be better
[09:31] <CuBe0wL> but there's a root user, right?
[09:31] <yofel> you can always upgrade to natty if you want from there
[09:31] <yofel> CuBe0wL: there is, but passwordless by default, thus disabled
[09:32] <CuBe0wL> so after all, if I set sudo passwd, I'll be allowed to log in as root as usual, right?
[09:32] <yofel> sure, su will work then
[09:32] <CuBe0wL> excellent (in Mr. Burns voice)
[09:33] <yofel> :D
[09:33] <CuBe0wL> ok, one final question: is kubuntu free from pulseaudio? I've only heard bad things about it, and when I tried it myself, I wasn't contented with it either (though the concept is nice)
[09:34] <yofel> no, maverick uses pulseaudio by default - you can deinstall it, phonon will use alsa then
[09:34] <CuBe0wL> purge pulseaudio-* the way it is then
[09:34] <CuBe0wL> aptitude purge hehe
[09:35] <CuBe0wL> the chill always goes down my spine when I type in that
[09:35] <CuBe0wL> sometimes that does some major wtf :D
[09:35] <yofel> that will require 'sudo apt-get install aptitude' first... (uses too much cd space... *sigh*)
[09:36] <CuBe0wL> no aptitude by default? odd, iirc that's the recommended now since years in debian
[09:36] <CuBe0wL> after dselect went obsolete
[09:37] <CuBe0wL> I think it's a shame that these are the most "up to date" packages that debian can offer of KDE4: http://qt-kde.debian.net/debian/
[09:37] <yofel> in *debian* yes, but in ubuntu: we already have apt-get, no point in having 2 apps that do the same thing by default
[09:39] <CuBe0wL> yofel, aptitude is more robust, and has better dependency problem solving tools. but I see your point too.
[09:39] <CuBe0wL> anyway, thx for the infos, I think kubuntu will have a new user soon
[09:39] <yofel> they were talking about 4.6 in #debian-qt-kde a while go, but I didn't keep track of the discussion
[09:39] <yofel> sure, aptitude tfw!
[09:40] <yofel> ...
[09:40] <yofel> *ftw!
[09:40] <CuBe0wL> tfw is apropriate sometimes too ;)
[09:40] <CuBe0wL> or the other way around, wtf ;)
[09:41] <yofel> well, true
[09:41] <CuBe0wL> yofel, sure, but updating to 4.6 is crucial for me (it has strigy database save/restore) and I badly need that for my researches
[09:41] <CuBe0wL> I can't wait for debian for weeks :(
[09:42] <CuBe0wL> it's just soooo comfy that I can label and rate any articles I read
[09:42] <CuBe0wL> and with strigi database save/restore, I can move that to other computers
[09:42] <CuBe0wL> that means I can use my database on my desktop at work, save it to a pendrive, and easily restore that on my laptop
[09:43] <CuBe0wL> that way I can work at home too
[09:43] <yofel> hm, haven't tried to test that yet here
[09:43] <CuBe0wL> I'll see anyway ;)
[09:44] <CuBe0wL> ok, thx for the infos, bye now!
[10:10] <tdn> yofel, that seems to work. However, I have two problems: 1) I cannot get picture on my external monitor. 2) Bootup is not very pretty. (#2 is not that important, but #1 is a big problem)
[10:13] <yofel> tdn: try nvidia-settings from the menu (or alt+f2 nvidia-settings) and look if you can set it up there
[10:14] <tdn> yofel, I think I need disper to make it happen more automatically (keyboard shortcut).
[10:14] <tdn> yofel, but disper is not present for apt-get appearantly.
[10:30] <tdn> yofel, I can do it manually from nvidia-settings, however, it is impossible to do when the laptop is docked and closed.
[10:30] <tdn> yofel, why can't it auto detect if a monitor is connected?
[10:31] <yofel> no idea, I rarely use 2 monitors, sorry
[10:35] <tdn> Ok.
[10:46] <tdn> I have just reinstalled Kubuntu 10.10. I restored my entire homedir from backup, so this includes .kde. I expected that my settings would still work. However, keyboard shortcuts and other stuff does not work. How do I fix this?
[10:46] <tdn> For example shortcuts for Konsole does not work.
[11:53] <t3rminat0r_> hey guys I need some help
[11:53] <t3rminat0r_> I downloaded git
[11:53] <t3rminat0r_> I decompressed the archive
[11:53] <t3rminat0r_> but there were only binary there
[11:54] <t3rminat0r_> should I just put it under my path?
[11:54] <t3rminat0r_> (no configuration a priori?)
[12:05] <gr8m8> !info git
[12:05] <gr8m8> where did you get it from?
[12:12] <david__> I put the evolution in Spanish in kde but not to download packages, I come from gnome and was always in Spanish, I can help
[12:14] <david__> :(
[12:17] <david__> or in another language
[12:17] <Syria> I am running ubuntu 10
[12:18] <Syria> I am running ubuntu 10.10 with gnome environment, how can I install the latest version of kde please?
[12:18] <david__> i install kubuntu 10.10
[12:19] <Daughain> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[12:19] <Daughain> I think.
[12:19] <EyesisMine> For what?
[12:19] <Daughain> KDE
[12:19] <Syria> Daughain:  But this will not install the latest version right?
[12:19] <EyesisMine> Uh
[12:19] <EyesisMine> To update don't you just sudo apt-get upgrade?
[12:19] <Daughain> Oh, sorry......Misread.
[12:20] <Daughain> He;s running gnome.
[12:20] <EyesisMine> Oh
[12:20] <EyesisMine> He wants to switch from gnome to kde?
[12:20] <Daughain> Actualy, I dont know what ver of KDE it installs, Syria.
[12:20] <Daughain> I have both.
[12:20] <Syria> I see.
[12:20] <gr8m8> the latest is in a ppa
[12:21] <gr8m8> !ppa
[12:21] <Daughain> And gnome has saved my ass on a few occasions. =)
[12:21] <Syria> EyesisMine:  Yeah, I want to try using the latest version of KDE.
[12:21] <gr8m8> or see kubuntu.org
[12:21] <EyesisMine> Hmm
[12:21] <EyesisMine> I think you have to goto a Ctrl+Alt+F1 screen
[12:22] <EyesisMine> THEN sudo apt-get install kubuntu-dektop
[12:22] <EyesisMine> desktop*
[12:22] <david__> I put the evolution in Spanish in kde but not to download packages, I come from gnome and was always in Spanish, I can help
[12:22] <david__> or in another language
[12:23] <EyesisMine> I'm never sure, I only just started to use Kubuntu this week
[12:23] <Daughain> I just run whats stable.
[12:24] <EyesisMine> LOL, stable
[12:24] <Daughain> Yes, stable.
[12:25] <Daughain> Least on my sys it is. :P
[12:25] <EyesisMine> Ha, I NEVER run stable
[12:25] <EyesisMine> Compiling the 2.6.38 kernel as I chat
[12:26] <david__> like me
[12:26] <david__> was tired of the gnome
[12:26] <Daughain> I have enough hardware issues I need to keep the software as stable as I can. :P
[12:26] <Daughain> :P:
[12:26] <Daughain> LOL, even
[12:36] <SopoLesRa> test
[13:26] <_d4vid> hello people .
[13:27] <_d4vid> my kde-plasma crash at logout or restart etc .. here http://paste.kde.org/3703/
[13:28] <_d4vid> howto fix that? :/
[13:28] <_d4vid> <use kde 4.6 installed from backports.
[14:13] <bewoi> hello
[14:17] <bewoi> Can anybody please tell me how to configure my LAN to autoconnect on startup (yes, i did check the respective box but it won't work anyway)?
[14:25] <notgary> Hey there, I was wondering if someone could answer a question for me. I Ubuntu, I can plug in a USB wireless broadband dongle and immediately be asked what network provider I wish to use.
[14:26] <notgary> IS this the case on Kubuntu, or do I have to configurei t myself?
[14:31] <yofel> that's sadly not implemented in the kde network manager, you'll have to configure it yourself :/
[14:36] <spectr> hello
[14:37] <notgary> Yofel, thanks a lot :)
[15:17] <cole> How do you failsafe boot into kubuntu?
[15:18] <yofel> which release?
[15:18] <BajK> is the new mail notifier widget coming with KDE itself or is it added by kubuntu developers?
[15:19] <cole> maverick
[15:20] <yofel> press the left shift key at the bios screen and hold it pressed until the grub menu comes up. Select recovery mode there
[15:23] <cole> thanks
[15:26] <cole> how do you set the default window manager?
[15:27] <yofel> from systemsettings -> defaul applications
[15:28] <amichair> will libreoffice be available in maverick repos?
[15:34] <cole> how do you set the default window manager from the command line?
[15:36] <EyesIsMine> b
[15:36] <EyesIsMine> Oops, wrong windows
[15:36] <EyesIsMine> window*
[15:39] <ChessTeach> when I installed ubuntu, they never asked me for a password for root. The user they created for me as admin privilidges, how do I find out root's password?
[15:39] <amichair> ChessTeach: I think in ubuntu, by default, root doesn't have a password - you cannot log in as root. Instead, it uses sudo for priviledge escalation.
[15:41] <ChessTeach> ok
[15:41] <ChessTeach> how do i take control of a folder from the command line?
[15:41] <Snowhog> cole: What windows manager do you want to change to?
[15:41] <yofel> which folder? (or rather: what do you want to do?)
[15:41] <ChessTeach> var/www
[15:42] <ChessTeach> i just recently installed a webserver, and i do not want to copy every file in there from the command line
[15:42] <ChessTeach> root owns the folder
[15:43] <james147> ChessTeach: checging the woner of that directory will break apache, or what ever webserrver you have
[15:43] <james147> changing thw owner ^^
[15:43] <ChessTeach> really
[15:43] <ChessTeach> hmm
[15:43] <ChessTeach> how can I move files in there then, without using the command line
[15:43] <yofel> you could give the folder rwx permissions for everyone, if you're not too concerned about who can access it
[15:43] <james147> ChessTeach: since it needs read/write permissions... best to add your self to the group that directory belongs to instead
[15:43] <Snowhog> ChessTeach: Are you running Ubuntu or Kubuntu?
[15:44] <ChessTeach> ubuntu
[15:44] <Snowhog> !#ubuntu | ChessTeach
[15:44] <james147> yofel: ^^ better to add yourself to the group and give that the permissions
[15:44] <yofel> or go james147 way, add yourself to the root group, and give the folder rwx permissions for the group
[15:44] <ChessTeach> Snowhog: how did that help?
[15:44] <yofel> james147: yep, probably better
[15:45] <james147> (note the group "root"  but the group of that folder)
[15:45] <james147> not the ^^
[15:45] <ChessTeach> how do i do that.... i am still learning the command line
[15:45] <yofel> right (it's owned by root:root here, that's why I assumed that)
[15:46] <james147> ChessTeach: first do "ls -l /var | grep www" that should tell you the owner and group
[15:46] <james147> yofel: if it? o , then "ls -l /var/www" and find out who owns the contents
[15:46] <ChessTeach> drwxr-xr-x  2 root root  4096 2011-01-29 17:06 www
[15:47] <james147> yofel: its never a good idea to add yourself to the root group... better to change the group of the folder :p,
[15:47] <ChessTeach> root owns the contents
[15:47] <james147> ChessTeach: but who owns the contents? "ls -l /var/www"
[15:47] <james147> hmm
[15:47] <ChessTeach> root owns all the files
[15:48] <james147> ChessTeach: what web server are you running?
[15:48] <ChessTeach> apache2
[15:48] <yofel> james147: well, usually the root group doesn't have more permissions by default than r-x, but you are right anyway
[15:48] <Snowhog> ChessTeach: You can launch Nautilus 'as root' to do file management on root owned directories/files. From the console just type: gksudo nautilus
[15:48] <james147> ChessTeach: hmm, i thourght apache had its own user/group for folders :p
[15:49] <ChessTeach> Snowhog: good idea
[15:49] <ChessTeach> james147: i don't know, it did all the work
[15:50] <yofel> james147: it's usually www-data, but only for files it creates itself
[15:50] <james147> ChessTeach: o well, first create a group "cat /etc/group" will tell you what groups you already have
[15:50] <james147> ^^ see if there is one like "www" or "www-data"
[15:50] <yofel> as long as the files are owned as root but are readable apache is happy
[15:51] <james147> yofel: yeah, i assumed ubuntu set the folder premissions on /var/www, or at least thats what it did with me i think :S
[15:52] <yofel> didn't here, I think it only does that if the folder doesn't already exist
[15:53] <ChessTeach> james147: i already got it to work.... use nautilus
[15:53] <ChessTeach> *used
[15:56] <c2tarun> If i split yakuake screen in two halves, can anybody please tell me the keyboard shortcut for switching b/w these two halves
[15:58] <james147> c2tarun: ctrl+shift+down  (look in the configure shorcuts window for all the others)
[15:59] <c2tarun> james147: hey :) thanks
[16:02] <lyric> hello, how start kde sessions without having to login?
[16:02] <james147> lyric: ^^ umm, you need to login to the computer to have a session... what are you trying to do?
[16:03] <lyric> yes, but I have only one user
[16:03] <yofel> do you mean auto-login? You can set that somewhere in the kdm settings
[16:03] <lyric> yes
[16:03] <lyric> but I cant find where
[16:04] <lyric> I did that once upon a time
[16:04] <james147> lyric: system settings > login screen > conevence ... note that it is still loging in just not authenticating :)
[16:06] <lyric> I cannot find the 'login screen'-item?
[16:06] <Snowhog> lyric: What version of Kubuntu / KDE?
[16:07] <lyric> is there an icon somewhere?
[16:07] <lyric> 4.2.2
[16:07] <james147> lyric: http://wstaw.org/m/2011/01/30/plasma-desktopoT5220.jpg << thats where it is on kde 4.6, it should be in the same place for 4.5, and might be called login manager for 4.4
[16:07] <james147> lyric: no clue about 4.2... that really old now
[16:08] <Snowhog> lyric: Press Alt+F2 and type: login screen
[16:08] <james147> lyric: you should consider upgrading... the later versions have fixed ALLOT of bugs
[16:08] <lyric> okay
[16:08] <lyric> so I will do that
[16:08] <lyric> thanks
[16:09] <lyric> bye
[16:09] <yofel> hm, 4.2.2 should actually be jaunty, that's EOL, you really should upgrade
[16:09] <yofel> he's gone
[16:10] <mu3en> under 4.6 with kdepim experimental, has anyone got gcal sync in korganizer?
[16:16] <c2tarun> james147: can you please take a look at this error? http://paste.ubuntu.com/560273/
[16:17] <james147> c2tarun: when running what exactly?
[16:17] <yofel> that seems from update-grub o.O
[16:17] <c2tarun> james147: I was trying to configure grub boot menu
[16:17] <c2tarun> this error came update-grub
[16:24] <james147> c2tarun: not sure sorry
[16:34] <mu3en> anyone have working gcal sync with kdepim 4.6 (or 4.5 in fact)?
[16:38] <mime1111> hello all. is there any way to safe my installed os with all files in a memory stick, and just run it with a simple plug?
[16:39] <vanguard> mime1111: There is the creator for a Ubuntu USB Stick right in the start menu
[16:39] <vanguard> mime1111: You can reserve some space there for your personal files as well.
[16:39] <mime1111> thank you
[16:39] <vanguard> mime1111: The computer you run it on has to support USB booting though
[16:40] <mime1111> yeah
[16:40] <vanguard> mime1111: "Startup Disk Creator" in "System"
[16:40] <mime1111> thank you
[16:40] <mime1111> cya
[16:40] <james147> mime1111: you can copy the files to the stick (assuming it has enough space) edit /etc/fstab for the new location then install a boot loader... but thats not recomended, it will ware the disk out fairly quickly wiht all the read/writes an os needs to do... a better way is you create a livecd and install it to the stick (using what vanguard said)
[16:40] <james147> !liveusb | mime1111
[16:41] <james147> :S
[16:42] <james147> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent  and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization might be helpful
[16:49] <GeekMan> where do the podcasts in amarock get saved
[16:50] <james147> GeekMan: probally, but i am not sure, in ~/.kde/share/apps/amarok
[16:51] <GeekMan> thanks
[16:51] <morla_> Hi, a friend has a strange issue: Firefox loads all data *extremely* slow, while other browsers are normally fast. What could be the reason for this?
[16:52] <rogerlays> with many adds?
[16:53] <vanguard> morla_: Add-Ons can slow it down, maybe you have some toolsbars or so? Otherwise, if you have many, many tabs open, FF slows down. Chromium has more stamina in that.
[16:54] <morla_> He doesnt't use add-ons, its bog-standard from kubuntu's apt sources. Also just one tab.
[16:55] <vanguard> morla_: That is kinda stange. You could check out a system monitor to see how much power Firefox draws from the system
[16:55] <vanguard> It it takes like 100% of the CPU and Gigs of RAM all the time, something is way off.
[16:55] <morla_> It's not a firefox issue I think, rendering speed is not the problem; It's really a dog slow network connection (like waiting for an image to load takes ages). But other browsers using the same network are fast
[16:56] <morla_> I tried a clean profile but no luck
[16:57] <morla_> i havent looked at a system monitor yet.. good idea, maybe it's really a cpu thing, but I dont believe it, becausae scrolling and everything is fast
[16:59] <vanguard> morla_: So the page rendering is slow?
[17:02] <Peace-> :)
[17:04] <morla_> vanguard: I don't think it's the rendering, it's the data loading
[17:05] <ArunC> Hi, I'm running Ubuntu 10.10. I have just installed kubuntu-desktop to have a feel of kde 4.6. I got KDM initially. After login, it shows me the gnome-panel and everything is gnome.
[17:05] <morla_> vanguard: like, page skeleton shows up and then 10 minutes later the images are loaded
[17:05] <vanguard> morla_: what happens when you download a file?
[17:05] <ArunC> Do I need to do anything else apart from installing and choosing KDM as the login manager?
[17:05] <vanguard> ArunC: You habe to select KDE as the session in the login screen
[17:06] <vanguard> morla_: The page skeleton is not really a lot of data, just a couple KiB, the Pics are several hundred KiB. I have no idea at the moment.
[17:06] <morla_> vanguard: downwload is slow... IIRC a high downstream speed is displayed, but it's slow non the less
[17:07] <vanguard> morla_: It just does not make too much sense to me at the moment why it should load slow. You don't have any proxy enabled, right?
[17:07] <ArunC> vanguard: Administration->Login Screen->Unlock doesn't work.
[17:07] <ArunC> No idea why.
[17:08] <vanguard> ArunC: When you are logging in after you start the computer, you can select KDE there
[17:08] <morla_> vanguard: jep, thats why i think somwthing is wrong with the network. I'm clueless either. There is no proxy, just a normal router. All apps use the same network connection.... it makes no sense :(
[17:08] <vanguard> ArunC: has nothing to do with the adminstration panel
[17:08] <ArunC> OK. Let me try that. Thanks.
[17:09] <vanguard> morla_: Hmm, do the images download slowly as well, or does it just take a lot of time until they begin to load?
[17:11] <morla_> vanguard: I think they load slow. Not at that computer at the moment. I wonder if it could be a malware thing? Like a Firefox malware which makes everything go through a secret proxy?
[17:11] <ezra-s> hello
[17:13] <vanguard> morla_: It is not impossible, but I think that there should be a better explanation.
[17:13] <vanguard> ezra-s: Hi :)
[17:15] <morla_> vanguard: yes it sounds unlikely since the problem doesnt go awayy when using a new profile. Sigh. I'll feed google a bit more to see what I find. Thanks for your help :)
[17:17] <vanguard> morla_: Maybe you can ask that question in a board like ubuntuusers or ubuntuforums
[17:20] <ArunC> vanguard: I did a reboot and I chose KDE as the session. I was dropped into console (Ctr Alt F1). Had to do startx to get this X session.
[17:21] <morla_> vanguard: I got it! Had to disable IPv6 :))
[17:29] <GeekMan> is anyone here fimiliar with microsoft web access outlook
[17:30] <GeekMan> when you try and change your password it asks for the domain i dont know what they mean by domain its for my college mail
[17:31] <Snowhog> GeekMan: Ask your college's IT department, as they are responsible for the network.
[17:32] <GeekMan> :) i am aware of this :) i wanted to know if you knew what domain its refering to
[17:32] <GeekMan> server side ?
[17:32] <GeekMan> but im almost abotu to ask
[17:32] <Snowhog> GeekMan: It's impossible for us to know what domain your college setup.
[17:33] <Snowhog> *set up.
[17:33] <GeekMan> XD  of course you dont let me rephrase but i think you answered my question now (when outlook asks for a domain what is it asking for)
[17:34] <GeekMan> the mail sever
[17:35] <Snowhog> GeekMan: Does your college have a website for student use that has help on using Outlook Webmail?
[17:36] <james147> GeekMan: probally the network domain your college belongs to (which you will need to ask them for)
[17:36] <GeekMan> ill check im planning to go there but they send a letter telling you you have a collage email and all and this is the user name password adn to change your password asap so i try and it asks for the users domain
[17:37] <GeekMan> they say if you need help to email the help email
[17:38] <GeekMan> so i guess ill do thx
[17:38] <GeekMan> ill ask them what network domain im on
[17:58] <GeekMan> my volume wheel is really touchy and the way i fixed that was using gconfig with gnome but i dont use gnome anymore so what should i go to to adjust the volume wheels sensitivity
[17:59] <james147> volume wheels?
[17:59] <GeekMan> yeah
[17:59] <james147> what are they?
[18:00] <GeekMan> no
[18:00] <Peace-> james147:  hi
[18:00] <james147> hey Peace-
[18:01] <GeekMan> where do i change the sensitivity for it cause its tooo sensitive you move it a tiny bit and wham the volumes blaring or it you turn it down and you can barly hear it
[18:01] <james147> I do not know what you mean by volume wheels
[18:01]  * GeekMan hits face
[18:01] <GeekMan> (my face)
[18:02] <GeekMan> the volume adjuster knob on my laptop
[18:03] <GeekMan> it adjusts the volume of the sound i play from the notebook
[18:03] <suslov> hi
[18:03] <suslov> who from russia
[18:03] <james147> !ru | suslov
[18:04] <suslov> а тут чем плохо?)
[18:05] <Peace-> !english | suslov
[18:05] <Peace-> GeekMan: could you explain better?
[18:05] <Peace-> GeekMan: you have a wheel on your laptop?
[18:05] <Peace-> GeekMan: mouse?
[18:05] <james147> Peace-: I think he means a hardware volume control
[18:06] <Peace-> james147: guess hotkeys?
[18:06] <Peace-> special keys?
[18:06] <GeekMan> no its not keys its a potiometer (jog wheel it spins on a access)
[18:06] <Peace-> ok
[18:07] <Peace-> i understood
[18:07] <Peace-> i guess you have to select shortcuts
[18:07] <GeekMan> THE VOLUME ADJUSTER LOL
[18:07] <Peace-> sorry
[18:07] <Peace-> set
[18:07] <Peace-> GeekMan: systemsettings
[18:07] <Peace-> GeekMan: shortcuts
[18:08] <GeekMan> where from there
[18:08] <Peace-> GeekMan: on kde button
[18:08] <Peace-> GeekMan: there is a search
[18:08] <Peace-> type systemsettings
[18:08] <GeekMan> not what i mean
[18:08] <Peace-> ...
[18:09] <Peace-> basically your hardware control is not set like volume controller
[18:09] <GeekMan> isnt that how i set the key/hardware i want to use to control
[18:09] <Peace-> so you have to set the shortcut
[18:09] <GeekMan> im talking about changing the sensativity
[18:09] <GeekMan> i can do it on gnome
[18:09] <Peace-> then...
[18:09] <GeekMan> under gconfig
[18:09] <Peace-> systemsettings  input device
[18:10] <Peace-> all stuff is on systemsettings
[18:10] <Peace-> alwasy
[18:12] <GeekMan> ill figure it out some how thanx for trying to help
[18:12] <GeekMan> :)
[18:13] <Peace-> GeekMan: i am setting english
[18:13] <Peace-> wait a  moment
[18:16] <Peace-> GeekMan: try this http://simplest-image-hosting.net/jpg-0-plasma-desktopfl1635
[18:18] <GeekMan> bro i have all my keys set right we are having communication issues it seems. the keys are to sensitve
[18:19] <GeekMan> they arent even keys lol its a jog wheel
[18:19] <GeekMan> but its cool
[18:20] <GeekMan> if i dont find a way to turn the sensitivity down i will just set 2 keys insted of the wheel
[18:20] <Peace-> mmm
[18:20] <Peace-> wait
[18:21] <GeekMan> look this is how i fixed it when i was using gnome hold on
[18:22] <GeekMan> I have the exact same problem, and I stumbled across a solution while looking for something else..
[18:22] <GeekMan> Open up gconf-editor, and go to apps > gnome-settings-daemon, and change volume_step as needed. Changing from 6 down to 4 seemed to work well for me.
[18:23] <St0n3-C0l> I installed KDE 4.6 from ubuntu 10.10....but I can't seem to get GTK+ apps theming on Oxygen....despite me changing the theme in Application Appearance
[18:23] <GeekMan> http://newyork.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1004757
[18:24] <Peace-> GeekMan: reading
[18:24] <GeekMan> st03-c0l: where you using gnome before
[18:24] <Peace-> St0n3-C0l: have ytou ion startup the script http://simplest-image-hosting.net/jpg-0-plasma-desktopor1635
[18:24] <Peace-> ?
[18:25] <St0n3-C0l> wait
[18:25] <St0n3-C0l> nope
[18:25] <St0n3-C0l> not there
[18:27] <Peace-> GeekMan: have you tried to set the wheel of the mouse i know it's not the device ... but try maybe it could work
[18:27] <Peace-> GeekMan: i have not a fast answer
[18:29] <Peace-> St0n3-C0l: you have to install the package
[18:29] <St0n3-C0l> brb installed kubuntu-default-settings package
[18:29] <GeekMan> Peace: its cool ill ask a forum :) you help out stone-col
[18:30] <GeekMan> bye bye
[18:30] <FarhanBuriro> How can i check my current KDE version?
[18:30] <Peace-> FarhanBuriro: open a kde application
[18:30] <Peace-> FarhanBuriro: go on help menu
[18:30] <james147> FarhanBuriro: any kde app > help > about kde
[18:30] <Peace-> click on kde
[18:30] <Peace-> xD
[18:31] <Peace-> james147: do you know a equivalent for gnome doemon stuff?
[18:31] <Peace-> i didn't
[18:31] <james147> Peace-: nop
[18:31] <FarhanBuriro> its 4.4.5 how to upgrade to 4.6?
[18:31] <Peace-> FarhanBuriro: 10.10?
[18:31] <james147> FarhanBuriro: what version of kubuntu?
[18:32] <FarhanBuriro> james147, how to check kubuntu version?
[18:32] <Peace-> lsb_release -a
[18:32] <james147> FarhanBuriro: lsb_release -a
[18:32] <Peace-> xD
[18:37] <St0n3-C0l> Peace -: I installed kubnutu-default-settings, loaded the script manually from that folder
[18:37] <St0n3-C0l> It's enabled
[18:37] <St0n3-C0l> but still
[18:37] <St0n3-C0l> not the same
[18:37] <FloodBotK3> St0n3-C0l: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:38] <james147> St0n3-C0l: do ~/.gtkrc-2.0 and ~/.gtkrc-2.0-kde4 exist?
[18:39] <St0n3-C0l> yep
[18:39] <james147> St0n3-C0l: can you pastebin their contents
[18:39] <St0n3-C0l> Hang on
[18:40] <St0n3-C0l> http://pastebin.com/bdMDFrwZ
[18:40] <St0n3-C0l> gtkrc-2.0
[18:41] <St0n3-C0l> http://pastebin.com/MDP36sHv -> .gtkrc-2.0-kde4
[18:45] <james147> St0n3-C0l: seems its set to use qtcurve rather then oxygen, try chaning it in system settings > application appearence > gtk styles
[18:46] <St0n3-C0l> changed it to oxygen-molecule
[18:47] <james147> St0n3-C0l: if that still does help, rename .gtkrc-2.0  and create a sym link in its place to the -kde4 one (ie "ln -s ~/.gtkrc-2.0-kde4 ~/.gtkrc-2.0")
[18:47] <CuBeTop> hi all! I have a running debian testing right now. can I easily migrate my wholesystem to kubuntu by adding kubuntu repos, and do a full-upgrade from there?
[18:48] <St0n3-C0l> will I have to logout james?
[18:48] <CuBeTop> or I should go for a clean install from maverick DVD/cd
[18:48] <yofel> CuBeTop: please do a clean install, we don't guarantee any binary compatibility between ubuntu and debian
[18:51] <St0n3-C0l> That trick worked james. Thanks
[18:51] <St0n3-C0l> :)
[18:51] <CuBeTop> yofel, is there a netinstall style installer for kubuntu? also, can I do an "expert" install from gui/text? (I only need / )
[18:51] <CuBeTop> oh, and can I install lilo instead grub? somehow grub just won't run on this laptop
[18:52] <yofel> there is a netinstall disk *somewhere*, would need to look for it
[18:52] <yofel> for an expert install use the alternate image, that uses the debian installed (no idea what the netinstall image uses)
[18:53] <yofel> and we ship lilo in the archive, but don't ask me if it works
[19:00] <yofel> CuBeTop: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD should be the netinstall one
[19:00] <CuBeTop> yofel, thx
[19:24] <gruuu> Hello, can someone answer a question for me?
[19:24] <james147> !ask | gruuu
[19:25] <gruuu> How do I create a shortcut that appears on all users' desktops?
[19:25] <gruuu> I'm not new to linux, but I am new to kubuntu, so I'd be ok with a few commands.
[19:25] <Peace-> mm
[19:25] <Peace-> gruuu: locate kubuntu-default
[19:26] <gruuu> Woah, nice. So I just have to place the shortcut in the corresponding folder that appears when I type 'locate kubuntu-default'?
[19:27] <Peace-> gruuu: locate kglobalshortcuts
[19:28] <Peace->  /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde4-profile/default/share/config/kglobalshortcutsrc
[19:28] <Peace-> bye
[19:34] <rats__> 6
[19:44] <tdn> How do I install KDE 4.6 in Kubuntu 10.10?
[19:45] <james147> tdn: see the topic
[19:46] <tdn> james147, ok. Thanks.
[19:48] <tdn> james147, it does not say how to add ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports
[19:49] <james147> tdn: yes it does :) in the "Software repo... guide" link
[19:49] <sithlord48> tdn use the command :  sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports or enable it in the software center
[19:49] <tdn> sithlord48, thanks.
[19:49] <sithlord48> np.
[19:52] <tdn> I have added the repos. Run apt-get update. Now when I run aptitude dist-upgrade, I get a lot of dependency conflicts. Output from aptitude: http://paste.adora.dk/P1935.html   What to do? Should I just select Y?
[19:57] <Snowhog> tdn: What version of KDE are you using now?
[19:57] <tdn> Did any of you upgrade to KDE 4.6? What do you think of it? Is it stable?
[19:57] <yofel> tdn: that looks fine, remove those
[19:57] <tdn> Snowhog, 4.5.1, default with kubuntu 10.10.
[19:57] <tdn> yofel, thanks.
[19:59] <kurumin> alguem do rio de janeiro
[19:59] <kurumin> brazil
[19:59] <kurumin> brazil guest
[19:59] <Snowhog> !br
[20:01] <tdn> yofel, do you use 4.6?
[20:01] <yofel> yes, in natty
[20:02] <Snowhog> tdn: Upgraded to 4.6 yesterday, here on Maverick.
[20:04] <carael> hi
[20:04] <carael> so ;any ppl in there
[20:06] <tdn> Snowhog, ok. So what do you think of it?
[20:07] <mmauder> is anybody else having trouble connecting to icq using kopete 1.0.80?
[20:07] <tdn> Snowhog, has it become faster, prettier, more stable, etc.?
[20:08] <Snowhog> tdn: I've noticed some (very minor) 'niggles', but nothing I would/am concerned about.
[20:08] <tdn> After installing Kubuntu 10.10 my NFS mounts does not work anymore. I just get "mount.nfs: Connection timed out" when trying to mount them. How do I fix this?
[20:08] <tdn> Snowhog, ok.
[20:09] <rob0917> Does kubuntu have it's own forums or do I need to use ubuntu's ?
[20:10] <Snowhog> tdn: I'd say, that for me, on my laptop, I'd rate 4.6.00 'just a tad' below 4.5.6. But 4.5.6 was mature, and 4.6.00 is recently released. It will improve with time like fine wine and good cheese. :)
[20:11] <Snowhog> rob0917: Go to www.kubuntuforums.net
[20:13] <rob0917> Snowhog: thanks
[20:16] <Snowhog> tdn: NFS. Check that you still have nfs-common installed.
[20:28] <ChessTeach> I am using Ubuntu, and when I resize a window I noticed that the area that my mouse has to drag it is very small. Is there a way to lower the needed accuracy? I hope this makes sense
[20:29] <james147> ChessTeach: if you using ubuntu then ask in #ubuntu
[20:29] <ChessTeach> :-) ok
[20:30] <ChessTeach> i thought they combined the two distros into this channel
[20:30] <james147> ChessTeach: ^^ if anything they would combine to #ubuntu
[20:30] <james147> though that isent going to happen anytime soon
[20:40] <St0n3-C0l> I am not able to see Klipper in Taskbar...even though it's running...
[20:42] <St0n3-C0l> Any help ?
[20:48] <james147> St0n3-C0l: how do you know its running?
[20:51] <St0n3-C0l> james147: I ran it in Konsole to check if there are any errors...or not
[20:51] <St0n3-C0l> But it's saying that it's already running.
[20:52] <james147> St0n3-C0l: try killing it and restarting it
[20:53] <St0n3-C0l> yea works
[20:53] <platius> my 1st try at using kde.  What are the desk protector looking windows called and how do you restore one to the desktop?
[20:53] <St0n3-C0l> Thanks :)
[20:55] <james147> platius: not sure what you mean by that
[20:57] <platius> when I installed kde 4.6 there was a n empty transparent window that a panel appeared on the righside of the window with a wrench, etc. I deleted it and would like to restore it.
[20:58] <platius> Plasma window?
[20:58] <Snowhog> platius: That's the Folder View widget.
[20:59] <james147> platius: the folder view widget? right click the desktop > add widgets > find and drag it to the desktop
[20:59] <james147> platius: make sure you unlock the widgets first
[20:59] <BluesKaj> Hi folks , I've forgotten the method to adjust the MENU and TOOLBAR fonts in kate as root ..for some reason it's not taking the settings set in system settings/application appearance
[21:00] <platius> james147; Thank you
[21:00] <Snowhog> BluesKaj: Have you logged out/in after the changes?
[21:00] <james147> BluesKaj: kdesudo systemsettings  << anything editied there will be saved and used by root
[21:01] <BluesKaj> yes, Snowhog
[21:01] <james147> Snowhog: that 'shouldnt' be needed
[21:02] <BluesKaj> ahh, that's it james147 , now I recall ...memory is not up par lately
[21:06] <BluesKaj> ok done , that worked , thx james147 :)
[21:18] <AciD> hi
[21:22] <AciD> since I upgraded to version 4.6, my top taskbar (which is set to auto hide) won't hide anymore. Is there any workaround ? What's the taskbar process name so I can reload it (the old "dcop kicker kicker restart" trick is deprecated it seems)
[21:23] <james147> AciD: the panels are now part of plasma, (as is the rest of the desktop)
[21:24] <james147> AciD: "kquitapp plasma-desktop && sleep 1 && plasma-desktop" will restart it
[21:24] <AciD> thx
[21:24] <AciD> I was googling for that :)
[21:24] <james147> AciD: if that dosent help create a new user and see if they have the same problem
[21:24] <tdn> Snowhog, nfs-common is already the newest version.
[21:25] <tdn> Snowhog, but I'll give you that it seems that nfs-common is not installed.
[21:25] <AciD> hm, that made plasma-desktop crash
[21:26] <james147> AciD: if it dosent comback then jsut relaunch it
[21:26] <Snowhog> tdn: sudo apt-get install --reinstall nfs-common
[21:26] <AciD> james147: that corrected the problem, thank you again !
[21:26] <tdn> Snowhog, I will do that. I noticed that /etc/init.d/nfs-common does not exist. Does it on your system?
[21:26] <tdn> Snowhog, reinstalled nfs-common. Still the same. Mount times out.
[21:28] <user567> hi
[21:29] <Snowhog> tdn: I don't have any nfs devices.
[21:29] <tdn> Snowhog, ok.
[21:30] <Snowhog> tdn: Two things to try. In a console, type: sudo mount -a   If that doesn't do it, then reboot and see.
[21:30] <tdn> Snowhog, any idea how I can debug this?
[21:31] <tdn> Snowhog, just did. Did not help.
[21:31] <Snowhog> tdn: How are the nfs devices connected to your PC?
[21:31] <tdn> Snowhog, ethernet
[21:31] <tdn> Snowhog, nothing has been changed on the server.
[21:32] <Snowhog> Are they 'seen' in Dolphin?
[21:32] <tdn> Snowhog, what do you mean?
[21:32] <Snowhog> tdn: If you launch Dolphin, are they listed in Places?
[21:32] <tdn> Snowhog, oh. Yeah. They are in Places. I normally just disable Places and Filters.
[21:32]  * BluesKaj vows to stay away from 11.04 til it's officially released ...got my system flumoxed by the new X 1.10 stack , it took out too many essential xorg files , and made the system unbootable
[21:33] <tdn> Snowhog, however, nothing happens when I click them in dolphin.
[21:34] <Snowhog> tdn: Can you right-click on them and look at Properies?
[21:34] <Snowhog> *Properties
[21:34] <tdn> Snowhog, nope. Only "add new entry" or "hide"
[21:37] <_dreamy> why is my sound and image quality impressivly better, in ubuntu (or kubuntu) 10.10 comparing to debian 5.0? anyone helping ?
[21:38] <james147> _dreamy: what version of kde does it have?
[21:38] <tdn> _dreamy, well, it is much newer.. Maybe something has been optimized?
[21:38] <_dreamy> well.. its got kde 4 ..
[21:39] <james147> 4.what?
[21:39] <tdn> _dreamy, there is a huge difference between e.g. 4.0 and 4.6.
[21:39] <_dreamy> kde 4-- something.. the standard that somes with kubuntu 10.10
[21:39] <tdn> _dreamy, the points are important. Everything before 4.3 sucked ass.
[21:39] <james147> _dreamy: can you check... any kde app > help > about kde
[21:39] <_dreamy> but those things are related to the drivers :S ?
[21:40] <Snowhog> tdn: Are you familiar with https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo
[21:40] <tdn> Snowhog, no. Will take a read.
[21:41] <tdn> Snowhog, however, I have used NFS for ~10 years.
[21:41] <Snowhog> tdn: Well, you know what they say: 'Familiarity breeds complacency.' ;)
[21:42] <_dreamy> tdn: that what i was tryng to guess.. it could have new OSS drivers?
[21:42] <_dreamy> ops
[21:42] <_dreamy> OSS - open source
[21:42] <_dreamy> i wish i could write a command in the terminal that could give me driver versions
[21:42]  * james147 waits for an answer...
[21:45] <yofel> _dreamy: graphics drivers? what card?
[21:45] <_dreamy> james147: ill do that, when i change to ubuntu.. if its not the latest version .. maybe i could install the very latest one
[21:45] <_dreamy> yofel: radeon 7000
[21:46] <_dreamy> or m6 ly
[21:46] <_dreamy> or 7000 le
[21:46] <_dreamy> or rv100
[21:46] <yofel> as for KDE - maverick has 4.5.1 by default, I don't know what lenny has
[21:46] <james147> yofel: ^^ from what i can see its still on 3.5 :P
[21:47] <yofel> I would think so too
[21:47] <yofel> squeeze will ship with 4.4 finally
[21:47] <james147> so i am going to answer the question with: Because debian is slow and outdated
[21:48] <_dreamy> debian 5.0.8 has wich kde?
[21:48] <james147> ^^ debian stable at least
[21:48] <james147> _dreamy: we dont know.. your using it tell us
[21:48] <_dreamy> i got 5.0
[21:48] <_dreamy> has an old kde
[21:49] <Snowhog> _dreamy: That's the version of Debian. Open any application and then click on Help > About KDE
[21:49] <yofel> konsole shows as " konsole | 4:3.5.9.dfsg.1-6+lenny1   | lenny          |"
[21:49] <yofel> so 3.5
[21:49] <james147> yeah, so the reason your getting better preformance with ubuntu is because debian stable is very very outdated
[21:49] <tdn> Snowhog, read the page. Checked my settings. Looked ok. Still does not work.
[21:50] <_dreamy> Snowhog: i cant , on my debian at the moment i got gnome, but when i had is installed before, it was an old kde 3-- something
[21:50] <_dreamy> on 5.0, i dunno about 5.0.8
[21:59] <FarhanBuriro> how can i check my kubuntu current version?
[22:00] <james147> FarhanBuriro: lsb_release -a
[22:01] <FarhanBuriro> jamee_, its 10.04 how to upgrade it?
[22:03] <FarhanBuriro> i just switch from windows and learned installation ubuntu then kubuntu from this server.
[22:04] <james147> !upgrade
[22:04] <Snowhog> FarhanBuriro: And https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MaverickUpgrades/Kubuntu
[22:09] <_dreamy> brb
[22:09] <FarhanBuriro> from where can i update my current ubuntu?
[22:11] <james147> FarhanBuriro: see the links we posted for info on how to upgrade
[22:12] <FarhanBuriro> james147, i am asking about update of my ubunty 10.04 before upgrading to 10.10
[22:12] <FarhanBuriro> ubuntu*
[22:12] <james147> FarhanBuriro: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[22:18] <_dreamy> my kde is 4.5.. theres a  4.6 one is it eazy to ugrade?
[22:19] <_dreamy> ops.. wrong window
[22:19] <_dreamy> sorry
[23:41] <AciD> is there a way to bind the mouse wheel for the kwin zoom function ?
[23:41] <AciD> some old threads says no, but perhaps it changed ?