[00:29] <Daekdroom> The default gnome-panel conf looks interesting.
[00:29] <Daekdroom> Somewhat close to unity, yet unique.
[03:13] <faeln>  i have 11.04 and with a recent update it always hangs when i am booting or a get a blank black screen, how can i fix it?
[03:15] <BUGabundo> faeln: /topic
[03:15] <Daekdroom> faeln, I had a similar problem and fixed it by using Xserver from the xorg-edgers PPA
[03:15] <Daekdroom> *not fix, worked around
[03:17] <faeln> daek, do you have the command for the PPA?
[03:18] <rww> faeln: the command, and instructions you should read first, are at https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ppa
[03:19] <faeln> ty
[04:12] <Hew> I'm attempting to update-manager -d from maverick but I get "E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.", is this a known issue, or something specific to my system?
[04:19] <Hew> The error message is quite vague, I've had a look at xorg packages and other things but haven't been able to determine the cause.
[05:18] <graingert> heya python2.7 missing glib?
[05:18] <graingert> is this normal?
[07:40] <slyrus> so is there a decent way to downgrade back to maverick?
[07:41] <SwedeMike> no, downgrade isn't supported afaik, never has been.
[07:42] <slyrus> bummer...
[07:42]  * slyrus should have waited a while longer before upgrading to natty
[09:09] <fffddf> after btrfs subvolume set-default , how to make it back
[09:41] <Hew> I'm attempting to update-manager -d from maverick but I get "E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.", is this a known issue, or something specific to my system?
[09:42] <yofel> this means that the repository is in a so inconsistent state that update-manager can't figure out a sane way to upgrade, wait a few hours or a day and try again
[09:45] <Hew> thanks yofel, I have been getting this for 24h now, I'll see if it's any better tomorrow
[10:55] <edgy> hi, yesterday X failed to start today again. yesterday I removed those quiet splash vt... and it works! today it stopped working, any help?
[11:12] <geser> edgy: are you perhaps on amd64?
[11:13] <edgy> geser: exactly
[11:14] <geser> see if you are also affected by bug 709977
[11:17] <edgy> geser: yes, it seems this is exactly what I am facing let me downgrade and test
[11:20] <cor_r> I had a problem where I couldnt install grub-pc, now switched to 11.04 . There are even more packages not installing, any idea? http://paste.ubuntu.com/560054/
[11:21] <geser> cor_r: can you pastebin your /etc/default/grub
[11:25] <edgy> I will reboot now and check geser. thanks and see you
[11:28] <cor_r> geser: apparently the directory is non existent?!?
[11:29] <yofel> cor_r: /etc/default/ exists, and if there is no grub file, then grub-pc won't work
[11:30] <cor_r> http://paste.ubuntu.com/560182/  , yofel , geser
[11:30] <yofel> GRUB_GFXMODE=>>1920x1200-24<< is wrong
[11:30] <yofel> that should be " not >>
[11:31] <yofel> some for <<
[11:31] <yofel> and remove the -24
[11:31] <geser> probably the same in GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT (line 9) too
[11:32] <yofel> not sure, that is properly quoted, so maybe uvesafb wants it like that
[11:32] <yofel> I'm happy with default vesafb here though
[11:36] <cor_r> ok now my bootup splash works again, but that was not the problem^^ , it wont install :  linux-image-2.6.38-1-generic
[11:36] <cor_r>  memtest86+
[11:36] <cor_r>  ubuntu-standard
[11:36] <cor_r>  grub-pc
[11:36] <cor_r>  linux-image-generic
[11:36] <cor_r>  linux-generic
[11:36] <cor_r> thx so far though :)
[11:37] <geser> run "sudo dpkg --configure --pending" to finish the installation of those packages
[11:42] <cor_r> thank you very much geser, works perfectly now :)
[12:18] <coz_> what is going on with the "grab tab"  ?  has this been remedied or in the process  ?
[12:26] <coz_> good day all
[12:31] <Daekdroom> coz_, as far as I know, it's a feature.
[12:32] <coz_> Daekdroom,  yes  mm  but it is definitly an interferance at this point...  I am wondering if ,, at the very least...it can be transparent.. it would then not be a "visual"  bug
[12:56] <jml> anyone else getting redraw bugs in emacs?
[13:47] <Chelsea_> Hi all, is it possible to run natty (with unity) in Virtualbox? Googling gives me mixed -perhaps outdated- information.
[13:48] <bazhang> Chelsea_, what version of vbox.
[13:50] <Chelsea_> 3.2.12
[13:55] <bazhang> Chelsea_, not sure, apparently version 4 has some more advanced stuff, perhaps try in #vbox
[13:58] <Chelsea_> ok, thanks
[13:58] <Chelsea_> Does it work in vbox 4?
[14:23] <BUGabundo> o/
[14:24] <yofel> hey BUGabundo
[14:47] <penguin42> apport has started asking for passwords about 3 or 4 times during each bug report - very annoying
[15:45] <MickStep> can someone using nouveau please pastebin there xorg.conf
[15:45] <BUGabundo> sec
[15:45] <BUGabundo> MickStep: $ pastebinit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[15:45] <BUGabundo> Unable to read from: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[15:46] <yofel> usually you have no xorg.conf with nouveau
[15:48] <MickStep> yofel: That's what I thought, when my X broke after an update, I disabled nvidia in jockey and deleted my xorg.conf, and my X is still broken
[15:48] <MickStep> looking at the welcome message though it appears this problem is a widespread one?
[15:49] <yofel> MickStep: lsmod shows nouveau as loaded?
[15:49] <yofel> also, you'll need nvidia-current from x-updates PPA if you want to use that
[15:49] <yofel> that has the current beta driver
[15:49] <MickStep> That souns like the ticket
[15:50] <MickStep> yofel: why on earth would they ship X that will break the nvidia driver in the repos but not ship the working driver too
[15:51] <yofel> they didn't bother to package the beta driver for the main archive? And there's a bug in the nvidia packaging that doesn't prevent it from being installed with an incompatible x-server
[15:52] <yofel> well, more like the proprietary driver has a lower priority than fixing the default drivers
[15:53] <MickStep> yofel: still why ship a package that definitely wont work in favour of one that might be buggy.
[15:53] <yofel> erm, the x-server was upgraded, it's just that the nvidia-driver wasn't updated yet because it's not important enough to get an updat
[15:54] <yofel> *update
[15:54] <yofel> and they're not going to remove it just because it's broken
[15:54] <yofel> acutally, that it's not being removed by the x-server update is already a known bug
[15:55] <yofel> welcome to alpha
[15:56] <MickStep> it's still worth it I guess, is there a twitter feed or anything where you can get a heads up about update that will break your system?
[15:56] <yofel> see /topic, there *IS* a warning about X being in a broken state
[15:57] <bazhang> http://feeds.ubuntu-nl.org/NattyChanges MickStep
[15:57] <bazhang> rss feed
[15:58] <MickStep> thanks
[16:01] <MickStep> Am I losing it or didn't the comman used to be add-apt-repository and now it's apt-add-repository?
[16:02] <Daekdroom> add-apt-repository
[16:02] <Daekdroom> as it always been
[16:03] <MickStep> not on my natty system
[16:03] <Daekdroom> Now that I tested it, apparently both commands work.
[16:03] <Daekdroom> ;)
[16:04] <MickStep> Daekdroom: on mine the add first command no longer exists]
[16:11] <yofel> hm, apt-add-repository is a symlink to the other one here
[16:11] <yofel> 1179725 0 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 18 2011-01-25 14:57 /usr/bin/apt-add-repository -> add-apt-repository
[16:18] <MickStep_> I still havent managed to fix my Xserver, but attempting nouveau or nvidia from the X updates ppa
[16:18] <MickStep_> *by
[16:18] <MickStep_> any suggestions how I can investigate further what the issue might be?
[16:35] <BUGabundo> humm TeamViewer runs on wine :\\ wth I though it was native
[16:40] <gpc> BUGabundo: it runs very well on wine, if that helps you.
[16:41] <gpc> teamviewer is great imo
[16:48] <BUGabundo> gpc: been running so far
[16:48] <BUGabundo> installing TeamViewer so I can access a remove Windows7 PC, to access a Virtualbox running Ubuntu LiveCD to recover a file in Wubi :S
[16:49] <gpc> wow
[16:49] <Daekdroom> Haha.
[17:11] <BUGabundo> can't mount smb with root
[17:12] <BUGabundo> nice bug :(
[17:17] <MickStep> I am completely at a loss of how to fix my Xserver, currently it should be using nouveau, gdm is started and yet displayed on my screen is an unrelated kernel error spat out a second after the bootloader, and I can't open up a terminal with ctrl-alt-f1
[17:17] <MickStep> I am sshed in and all the services I run are running fine
[17:18] <MickStep> I think it's a far more intrinsic problem with X than just a driver issue, is it possible to roll back to the previous X using apt?
[17:26] <arielsanflo> hola
[17:27] <arielsanflo> alguien
[17:27] <arielsanflo> habla español
[17:27] <bazhang> !es
[17:28] <arielsanflo> hello
[17:28] <arielsanflo> en pap
[17:36] <kaddi> hi could someone please tell me if forked-daapd is available by default in natty?
[17:37] <kaddi> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/forked-daapd this kinda suggests it, but i'm not sure if those are submitted packages or if that's just a work in progress
[17:40] <yofel> kaddi: submitted, but only in the development release
[17:41] <kaddi> ok
[17:41] <kaddi> but chances are it'll be part of natty when it is released?
[17:41] <BUGabundo> success :D
[17:42] <yofel> kaddi: it already is
[17:42] <kaddi> k, so it's part of natty but not maverick is what you were saying? :p
[17:42] <yofel> yes
[17:42] <yofel> hm, actually...
[17:43] <yofel> let's hope it will be, as the package failed to build :/
[17:43] <kaddi> yeah, i saw that too
[17:44] <kaddi> trying to help someone set it up on maverick 64bit atm.. I was considering an early upgrade to natty.. but a) it's still too soon and b) it's not building atm..
[18:52] <galamar> so im having this problem installing deb files (opera and google chrome). when i click on them they open with software center and than they pretend to install for like 15 seconds. after that they just stop. when i try to install via terminal this is what i get:root@ubuntu:/home/noroot/Downloads# aptitude install /home/noroot/Downloads/opera_11.00.1176_amd64.deb
[18:52] <galamar> Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "/home/noroot/Downloads"
[18:52] <galamar> Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "/home/noroot/Downloads"
[18:52] <galamar> No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed.
[18:52] <galamar> 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 421 not upgraded.
[18:52] <galamar> Need to get 0 B of archives. After unpacking 0 B will be used.
[18:52] <galamar>                                          
[18:52] <galamar> root@ubuntu:/home/noroot/Downloads#
[18:53] <yofel> galamar: apt-get / aptitude don't support local files, use 'dpkg -i <file>'
[18:53] <BUGabundo> you don't use apitute
[18:53] <BUGabundo> you use .... what yofel said
[18:54] <BUGabundo> and you DON'T run ROOT in ubuntu dude !!!
[19:00] <galamar> okay and also it seem ubuntu software center fails in !every! action............ and yeah i know that i just did that for quick copy of the scripts and my root terminal is faster to access
[19:01] <nit-wit> galamar, install gdebi
[19:03] <galamar> okay... also my mozilla ff's flash plugins freak out on some web pages (the properties window on facebook game mafia wars). i was wondering if maybe i have something conflicting?
[19:05] <nit-wit> galamar,  could you describe freak out.
[19:06] <nit-wit> galamar, give me a link where this happens
[19:06] <galamar> random parts flashing whiting out scattered graphics type of things.
[19:08] <nit-wit> is this only happening in natty
[19:08] <galamar> the only place i have noticed the problem is on that one part of (mafia wars) and the entire game (dragons of atlantis) both are facebook games on my profile so i dont think i can link the page
[19:08] <bluefrog> password
[19:10] <galamar> thats why i want to try opera and chrome to see if they work with the pages. (and i would love to get netflix working.)
[19:12] <nit-wit> I suspect the cpu and ram is overdriven on the facebook links, do you have conky or a way to confirm use
[19:12] <galamar> nit-wit im not sure what you mean.??
[19:14] <galamar> is there a way to check my box for conflicted packages?
[19:21] <akshatj> My natty VM died after updating
[19:21] <akshatj> :(
[19:22] <BUGabundo> man
[19:22] <BUGabundo> CIFS is soooo bad
[19:23] <bluefrog> akshatj, virtualbox?
[19:23] <akshatj> bluefrog: yes
[19:24] <bluefrog> akshatj, only the GUI. works ok otherwise. must use recovery mode though to start with
[19:25] <akshatj> yeah, i am using it now
[19:26] <akshatj> bluefrog: is a bug reported about it?
[19:26] <bluefrog> akshatj, dunno. just finished updated
[19:26] <bluefrog> user
[19:28] <Omega> Are you guys able to summon gnome-do in natty?
[19:29] <nit-wit> Omega, no
[19:29] <nit-wit> Omega, with the icon clicked yes though
[19:37]  * BUGabundo stabs libc6 
[19:37] <BUGabundo> Omega: works here
[19:37] <BUGabundo> but I have no composite
[19:37] <BUGabundo> so it's a mess
[21:28] <nysosym> is anywhere a list with a daily updated status about broken features or packages in 11.04?
[21:28] <nysosym> so i can prevent my system to update to the death?
[22:09] <Mathuin> I need to install Natty packages on my UNE 10.10 -- how do I do this?
[22:09] <Mathuin> (specific packages)
[22:10] <BUGabundo> can't it be from a PPA?
[22:10] <BUGabundo> well, I would add natty repos
[22:10] <Mathuin> The PPA has the same version according to the web.
[22:10] <BUGabundo> and manually upgrade just those
[22:10] <BUGabundo> then remove the archive
[22:10] <Mathuin> Okay, how do I do that on UNE?
[22:11] <Mathuin> The specific packages are librxtx-java, arduino-core, and arduino.
[22:11] <BUGabundo> same as in any debian distro
[22:11] <BUGabundo> add it to sources.list
[22:11] <Mathuin> I'm in a class, and the teacher's about to use the software.
[22:11] <Mathuin> What specifically do I add to sources.list ?
[22:12] <BUGabundo> aahahahaahahahahahahaha
[22:12] <BUGabundo> why don't you ask him?
[22:12] <Mathuin> I found sources.list at least, it's in /etc/apt/
[22:12] <Mathuin> Because he is a Windows user.
[22:12] <Mathuin> And is teaching the IDE, not how to set it up. :-(
[22:12] <BUGabundo> isn't he their to teach you ?
[22:12] <BUGabundo> lol
[22:12] <BUGabundo> ok ok
[22:12] <BUGabundo> but why natty?
[22:12] <Mathuin> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1622981
[22:12] <BUGabundo> if you have NO idea of what you are doing
[22:12] <Mathuin> They said it works.
[22:13] <Mathuin> So I kinda need to get this working.
[22:13] <BUGabundo> adding different repos is a dangerous thing
[22:13] <BUGabundo> sudo  gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[22:13] <BUGabundo> add
[22:13] <BUGabundo>  deb mirror://mirrors.ubuntu.com/mirrors.txt natty main restricted universe multiverse
[22:13] <BUGabundo> open synaptic
[22:14] <BUGabundo> press update
[22:14] <BUGabundo> and then install only the packages and depencies you need
[22:14] <BUGabundo> then remove that repo and update package list again Mathuin
[22:14] <Mathuin> Okay, used vi to update the file and used apt-get update.
[22:14] <BUGabundo> same
[22:14] <BUGabundo> what ever you feel confortable with
[22:15] <Mathuin> Thank you very much.
[22:15] <Mathuin> When it's done, I will remove that line and re-run apt-get update, and it won't delete the ones we added?
[22:16] <BUGabundo> no
[22:16] <Mathuin> Okay.
[22:16] <BUGabundo> behare those being development packages
[22:16] <BUGabundo> they can work or kill kittens
[22:16] <Mathuin> As long as it programs my Arduino before it goes on a kitten-killing rampage, I'll consider that acceptable.
[22:17] <BUGabundo> ahaahah
[22:17] <Mathuin> IT WORKS THANK YOU.
[22:17] <Mathuin> I appreciate the help.
[22:17] <BUGabundo> one more happy user
[22:17] <BUGabundo> bets on how long till he comes back saying his OS is broken?
[22:18] <BUGabundo> I take 4 min
[22:18] <BUGabundo> anyone else?
[22:32] <Daekdroom> virtualbox-ose-dkms package is broken. That is sad.
[22:32] <Daekdroom> I better check if there's a bug report on it already
[22:34] <zykes-> anyone here tested nxserver on natty?
[22:34] <BUGabundo> no
[22:34] <BUGabundo> but I did last cycle
[22:37] <zykes-> BUGabundo: did it work? I keep getting a "No valid sessions found"
[22:38] <zykes-> in a popup and then nothing more
[22:38] <BUGabundo> yeah, worked fine for months
[22:38] <BUGabundo> till I got the GTK bug
[22:39] <BUGabundo> where everything is SLOWWWWWWWWW
[22:39] <zykes-> it was slow with xfce as well :|
[22:52] <zykes-> BUGabundo: is it something to do with unity desktop manager ?
[22:52] <BUGabundo> no idea